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2013-07-22 08:35:57 AM  
I really couldn't think of a better man for the job.  Sagan would be proud.
 
2013-07-22 08:57:04 AM  
That is going to be incredible. The graphics look stellar (pun most definitely intended).
 
2013-07-22 09:06:16 AM  
I dunno. Where the original "Cosmos" was a celebration of the wonders of the universe, this trailer looks a bit like the celebration of computing power.  I like Tyson hosting it, but I just hope it's a discussion of big ideas rather than just showy visuals.

Sagan's "Cosmos" was brilliance, still holds up after all these years.

Just my .02
 
2013-07-22 09:09:42 AM  

LeilaK: I dunno. Where the original "Cosmos" was a celebration of the wonders of the universe, this trailer looks a bit like the celebration of computing power.  I like Tyson hosting it, but I just hope it's a discussion of big ideas rather than just showy visuals.

Sagan's "Cosmos" was brilliance, still holds up after all these years.

Just my .02


Well, I hope so as well but I suspect it will.  There's nothing wrong with using modern graphics to spice it up as long as the focus is on the big picture.  Tyson has two things that Sagan had, 1. Passion.  2.  The ability to explain things to the layman.  I can't see this ending up anything short of awesome.
 
2013-07-22 09:56:32 AM  
Yes times billyuns and billyuns
 
2013-07-22 10:08:22 AM  
i43.tinypic.com

NDT is the illusive man?
 
2013-07-22 10:09:32 AM  
It's as if billions and billions of astrogeeks cried out suddenly and were silent.
 
2013-07-22 10:14:19 AM  
Ughhhnnn yessss.

Oh yeah.

OtherBrotherDarryl: Yes times billyuns and billyuns


Yes more than all the grains of sand on all the worlds beaches.
 
2013-07-22 10:17:43 AM  

FlashHarry: [i43.tinypic.com image 636x280]

NDT is the illusive man?


You just blew my damn mind.
 
2013-07-22 10:20:52 AM  

LeilaK: Where the original "Cosmos" was a celebration of the wonders of the universe, this trailer looks a bit like the celebration of computing power


Sagan's "Cosmos" used the best technology available at the time and budget to make the most visually compelling experience they could. The trailer wants to grab attention in a short time span, so I'm not going to fault them for jamming it with eye candy.

My biggest fear is that "Cosmos" was a meditative reflection. It was slow, thoughtful, and full of a quiet, personal joy. Modern documentaries tend to be "short-attention-span theater", and zip from idea to idea.
 
2013-07-22 10:22:53 AM  

FlashHarry: [i43.tinypic.com image 636x280]

NDT is the illusive man?


Make it so.
 
2013-07-22 10:24:14 AM  
Can't wait!

Anyone know if it will be a miniseries like the original? Or a long running series? Hope it's the latter, as I don't think you can run out of ideas to explore when your subject is the cosmos.

If Mythbusters can still be fresh after all these years...
 
2013-07-22 10:29:13 AM  
Welp, nerdgasm.
 
2013-07-22 10:29:40 AM  
Cymbal:
I don't think you can run out of ideas to explore when your subject is the cosmos.

Especially given how much we (well, by we I mean people a lot smarter than me) still don't fully understand, and how new developments on a near daily basis challenge (or in some cases confirm) old theories.  It's not just the computer graphics that have changed since Sagan's time, we have the large hadron collider, better telescopes, better computer models, and even still we have so far to go.  Just when we think we figure it out, something else turns up to challenge what we thought.
 
2013-07-22 10:31:15 AM  

Cymbal: If Mythbusters can still be fresh after all these years


Yeah... about that....

Have you heard the myth that if you strap 7 lbs of C4 to a pig carcass, it'll go boom? We should test that out -- with 12 lbs of C4 instead.
 
2013-07-22 10:32:21 AM  

Cymbal: Anyone know if it will be a miniseries like the original?


It's a mini-series.
 
2013-07-22 10:34:36 AM  
NOW I HAVE A SPACESHIP HO HO HO
 
2013-07-22 10:37:44 AM  

Donnchadha: Cymbal: If Mythbusters can still be fresh after all these years

Yeah... about that....

Have you heard the myth that if you strap 7 lbs of C4 to a pig carcass, it'll go boom? We should test that out -- with 12 lbs of C4 instead.


That's Deadliest Warrior.  Mythbusters would attempt using a series of weights and pulleys first before the C4.
 
2013-07-22 10:40:28 AM  
More Sci, less Fi, please.
 
2013-07-22 10:40:40 AM  

Meethos: FlashHarry: [i43.tinypic.com image 636x280]

NDT is the illusive man?

You just blew my damn mind.


that can't be accidental.
 
2013-07-22 10:42:37 AM  
If that's an homage to William Hope Hodgson's The Night Land at 1:56, I may have to change my shorts.
 
2013-07-22 10:43:34 AM  
Watching the original Cosmos while high is one of the best experiences ever. Can't wait for this!
 
2013-07-22 10:51:07 AM  
Sagan > Tyson
 
2013-07-22 10:54:38 AM  

technoblogical: More Sci, less Fi, please.


this.
 
2013-07-22 10:56:11 AM  

bglove25: Watching the original Cosmos while high is one of the best experiences ever.


i.imgur.com
 
2013-07-22 11:02:37 AM  

BraveNewCheneyWorld: Sagan > Tyson


Really? REALLY???

NO-ONE, not even NDT himself is disputing that.

/Jerks will be jerks
 
2013-07-22 11:09:45 AM  

BraveNewCheneyWorld: Sagan > Tyson


Vangellis > John Murphy
 
2013-07-22 11:12:29 AM  

BraveNewCheneyWorld: Sagan > Tyson


Undeniable, but imagine if Sagan were hosting "Cosmos" today. The old one was slow, but this one would move at a corpse's pace.
 
2013-07-22 11:14:53 AM  
With Seth Macfarlane as an Exec producer......wonder if they'll work in some fart jokes when talking about gaseous nebulas......
 
2013-07-22 11:16:43 AM  
Will watch.  Sagan would be hard to top, so they're obviously going a different route.  In his book "Broca's Brain,"  he cleverly debunked the kind of pseudo-scientific clap-trap that the rubes still swallow whole..
 
2013-07-22 11:17:14 AM  
Cosmos is simply awesome. I have the soundtrack and somebody put all the episodes into a podcast. It's one-of-a-kind.

I see this as an update. A really good one, with a great host. I'm excited.
 
2013-07-22 11:17:33 AM  
Produced by FOX!?

That conglomerate spews more anti-science drivel to the willfully ignorant than the Manhattan sewage system.

Couldn't a more noble sponsor be found?
 
2013-07-22 11:29:11 AM  

lohphat: Produced by FOX!?

That conglomerate spews more anti-science drivel to the willfully ignorant than the Manhattan sewage system.

Couldn't a more noble sponsor be found?


You could argue that that audience is what needs this injection of science the most.   That's what NDT argues.
 
2013-07-22 11:30:02 AM  
cool.. but what was up with those cartoon bits?.. that felt a little disjointed.
 
2013-07-22 11:33:08 AM  

lohphat: Produced by FOX!?

That conglomerate spews more anti-science drivel to the willfully ignorant than the Manhattan sewage system.

Couldn't a more noble sponsor be found?


It's produced by Seth McFarlane. This is his pet project and dream, and he's using his success to get it made. Like how Matt Groening used the success of the Simpsons to make Futurama.
 
2013-07-22 11:39:15 AM  

Embden.Meyerhof: lohphat: Produced by FOX!?

That conglomerate spews more anti-science drivel to the willfully ignorant than the Manhattan sewage system.

Couldn't a more noble sponsor be found?

You could argue that that audience is what needs this injection of science the most.   That's what NDT argues.


The problem is that demographic won't watch some [successful and attractive african-american bible usurper] tell them their fairy tales aren't true.
 
2013-07-22 11:41:09 AM  
He's been reusing Sagan's lines for years.
 
2013-07-22 11:50:26 AM  
Seems there is a trend for networks to look for iconic programmes which will stand the test of time. Possibly with a look ahead to on demand viewing when their previous dross would just get ignored.

\At least that is what I hope
\\Optimist
\\\Even in the face of past disappointment
 
2013-07-22 11:51:16 AM  
That was farking DUMB.  Who the fark made that, J.J.Abrams' cinematographer?  I get that effects will be the draw to an extent, but to show nothing else is like trying to draw male audiences to a chick flick by making the trailer the one sex scene in the movie that isn't all weird.  It'll result in massive disappointment followed by the death of revenue.  Cosmos was always about ideas, so an entire trailer devoid of a single spoken thought not only has nothing to do with what Cosmos should be about, it's enough to give fans of the original show pause.  Are they trying to kill the show even before it starts?

I'm like. . . damn, I'm. . . argh, my brain shut down watching that.  It was the opposite of Cosmos, which challenged me to think.
 
2013-07-22 11:57:21 AM  

dragonchild: That was farking DUMB.  Who the fark made that, J.J.Abrams' cinematographer?  I get that effects will be the draw to an extent, but to show nothing else is like trying to draw male audiences to a chick flick by making the trailer the one sex scene in the movie that isn't all weird.  It'll result in massive disappointment followed by the death of revenue.  Cosmos was always about ideas, so an entire trailer devoid of a single spoken thought not only has nothing to do with what Cosmos should be about, it's enough to give fans of the original show pause.  Are they trying to kill the show even before it starts?

I'm like. . . damn, I'm. . . argh, my brain shut down watching that.  It was the opposite of Cosmos, which challenged me to think.


Because Murdoch is a troll showman who will use base formulas to attract people to spend money. It doesn't have to have production values just attract enough cattle to the trough to sell ads.

This is why PBS needed to be producing this as was the first series. We have to get back to valuing PBS as a beacon for knowledge without having to sell anything.

Once upon a time we valued non-commercial education and the arts.
 
2013-07-22 12:03:29 PM  

dragonchild: That was farking DUMB.  Who the fark made that, J.J.Abrams' cinematographer?  I get that effects will be the draw to an extent, but to show nothing else is like trying to draw male audiences to a chick flick by making the trailer the one sex scene in the movie that isn't all weird.  It'll result in massive disappointment followed by the death of revenue.  Cosmos was always about ideas, so an entire trailer devoid of a single spoken thought not only has nothing to do with what Cosmos should be about, it's enough to give fans of the original show pause.  Are they trying to kill the show even before it starts?

I'm like. . . damn, I'm. . . argh, my brain shut down watching that.  It was the opposite of Cosmos, which challenged me to think.


Calm down.  Inhale deeply and slowly.  Relax.  It's a trailer, nothing more.  They're trying to grab peoples attention who might otherwise not be interested.
 
2013-07-22 12:09:27 PM  

dragonchild: That was farking DUMB.  Who the fark made that, J.J.Abrams' cinematographer?  I get that effects will be the draw to an extent, but to show nothing else is like trying to draw male audiences to a chick flick by making the trailer the one sex scene in the movie that isn't all weird.  It'll result in massive disappointment followed by the death of revenue.  Cosmos was always about ideas, so an entire trailer devoid of a single spoken thought not only has nothing to do with what Cosmos should be about, it's enough to give fans of the original show pause.  Are they trying to kill the show even before it starts?

I'm like. . . damn, I'm. . . argh, my brain shut down watching that.  It was the opposite of Cosmos, which challenged me to think.


I'm with you. This "official" trailer felt more like it was made by a fan with good video editing tools, but bad video editing skills.
 
2013-07-22 12:15:08 PM  
Remember, this trailer was made for comic con.
There was enough imagery from a wide variety of topics to make up for the lack of speech, to me anyway.
 
2013-07-22 12:17:05 PM  

Flappyhead: Calm down. Inhale deeply and slowly. Relax. It's a trailer, nothing more. They're trying to grab peoples attention who might otherwise not be interested.


Yes, it IS a trailer, that's why there's a problem.  Movies have been destroyed by bad trailers, so what's this "it's a trailer, nothing more" nonsense?  Trying to grab people's attention is fine.  Trying to grab the attention of people who wouldn't be interested at all with a confusing mess of SFX will fail horribly both ways -- it'll draw people who'll be disappointed that it's not what they think and spread negative feedback, and scare away those who were fans of the old show but are skeptical the reboot is in capable hands.

The trailer is an ad.  That should concern anyone who wants to see the product succeed.  This trailer makes about as much marketing sense as selling tampons to post-menopausal women.
 
2013-07-22 12:30:56 PM  
It never ceases to amaze me just how quickly people complain about things that they've been wanting for years; or complain because outdated information or shows are too precious to re-investigate and correct. So the trailer had some flash... good. Hopefully it will catch the interest of the Honey Boo Boo crowd. (I know, I'm reaching pretty far here).

As to the trailer, I'm probably wrong but it looks like they are fusing Planet Earth and Universe into a show about how humans fit into the history of everything. I'm very interested to see what this show has to offer at this point. That said, I still can't really tell what the show is going to be about, but it makes me want to see.
 
2013-07-22 12:31:57 PM  
The bit at 2:22 where he's putting on sunglasses?

images.wikia.com
 
2013-07-22 12:32:49 PM  

dragonchild: Flappyhead: Calm down. Inhale deeply and slowly. Relax. It's a trailer, nothing more. They're trying to grab peoples attention who might otherwise not be interested.

Yes, it IS a trailer, that's why there's a problem.  Movies have been destroyed by bad trailers, so what's this "it's a trailer, nothing more" nonsense?  Trying to grab people's attention is fine.  Trying to grab the attention of people who wouldn't be interested at all with a confusing mess of SFX will fail horribly both ways -- it'll draw people who'll be disappointed that it's not what they think and spread negative feedback, and scare away those who were fans of the old show but are skeptical the reboot is in capable hands.

The trailer is an ad.  That should concern anyone who wants to see the product succeed.  This trailer makes about as much marketing sense as selling tampons to post-menopausal women.


So you're saying they shouldn't do advertising for this? Hell, I only found out about it because of the link.  It did it's job.  And it's a GOOD thing there is no talking.  They are selling the thrill and drama of the spaceship of the imagination.  We'll get to the ideas soon enough.
 
2013-07-22 12:34:03 PM  
In the future, scientists will travel by flying tampon!
 
2013-07-22 12:37:01 PM  
www.rawstory.com

It somehow looks familiar...

images.wikia.com
/pew pew pew
 
2013-07-22 12:40:23 PM  

rasicar: So the trailer had some flash... good.


It was all flash.  It's like giving you a "sample" of a new flavor of ice cream by serving a spoonful of refined sugar.  Sure, it's a key ingredient, but did you learn anything meaningful about the product?

rasicar: Hopefully it will catch the interest of the Honey Boo Boo crowd.


Why would this be a good thing?  Do you know what a post-pilot crash in ratings does to shows?  It gets them cancelled.

rasicar: I still can't really tell what the show is going to be about


That's proof it's a marketing failure.  TV trailers have to set the tone and get people excited to watch something in 15-30 seconds.  This thing was over 3 minutes and says almost nothing about what it is.
 
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