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2013-07-22 09:23:53 AM
Yeah, because CBS didn't close out the 2012-2013 at the top of the 18-49 demographic since for the first time since the early 90s. You might want to update your TV jokes a bit.
 
2013-07-22 09:37:27 AM
If you were a fan of the AFC you might care as well.
 
2013-07-22 09:37:30 AM
My 4yo grandson negotiates better than these clowns.
 
2013-07-22 09:39:41 AM
Easy solution :

Build an App that will run on your smart Phones, Computers and smart TVs that will support and enforce consumer-to-broadcaster ip based payment scheme. Death to Cable companies! Let them serve IP.

The Market will tell Viacom just how much their Crappy shows are worth.

/And FOX will lose 85% of it 'in homes' marketing numbers.
 
2013-07-22 09:39:43 AM
Viewers over 80 ask "What was the question?"
 
2013-07-22 09:40:31 AM

Sybarite: Yeah, because CBS didn't close out the 2012-2013 at the top of the 18-49 demographic since for the first time since the early 90s. You might want to update your TV jokes a bit.


DRTFA but Time Warner should probably give CBS what they want. If they stop carrying, they'll just give their cable customers one more reason to switch to a Netflix/over the air combo.
 
2013-07-22 09:40:34 AM
CBS is the network that puts Charlie Rose on its morning program and for that I am grateful.
 
2013-07-22 09:41:03 AM
aftergrogblog.blogs.com

Luckily I only watch it online since I have a job and don't usually stay up that late.

I think they have cop dramas as well, but then who doesn't. There might as well be a 24-hour cop drama channel.
 
2013-07-22 09:41:39 AM
Here's one solution. Turn off the cable and watch it for free with one of the converter boxes. Most of the areas detailed were high density areas that get the broadcast for free.
 
2013-07-22 09:41:51 AM
Also sorry Sybarite for quoting you. It's still too early for me.
 
2013-07-22 09:42:50 AM
I hate TWC. Monopoly anyone?

Fun fact: They (TWC lobbyists) made it a law in my state (NC) that municipalities that want to install their own fiber can't use bonds to fund the projects. (NC is notoriously full of lobbyist whores.)

/would get rid of TWC but the alternatives are almost worse.
 
2013-07-22 09:43:42 AM

wooden_badger: If you were a fan of the AFC you might care as well.


In NYC, it might prevent a few Jets fans from killing themselves.
 
2013-07-22 09:45:40 AM
CBS, btw, is the best run network (Les Moonves is an awesome TV executive) if for no other reason than 60 Minutes, really.
 
2013-07-22 09:46:17 AM
Yep . . . there's nothing CBS worth looking at.

www.adrants.com
 
2013-07-22 09:49:48 AM
I only watch retro indie cartoons that feature Pabst Blue Ribbon commercials and vintage hat ads.

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You've probably never heard of it.
 
2013-07-22 09:51:27 AM

picturescrazy: Sybarite: Yeah, because CBS didn't close out the 2012-2013 at the top of the 18-49 demographic since for the first time since the early 90s. You might want to update your TV jokes a bit.

DRTFA but Time Warner should probably give CBS what they want. If they stop carrying, they'll just give their cable customers one more reason to switch to a Netflix/over the air combo.


My wife and I have never bothered with cable. Better to sign up for Netflix and a $6/month BT anonymizer. TV is plugged into the PC, and we can watch anything we want with a little planning.

Most stuff we can stream on Netflix, and the rest we download. I have trouble feeling that I'm doing wrong when I could just get the discs sent from Netflix, and it would simply be less convenient and more time-consuming.

When something is really, really good, I might bother actually buying it. The Wire, for example. We got all five seasons on a steep discount because we bought them individually right after the full boxed set was released.
 
2013-07-22 09:51:43 AM

bdub77: I hate TWC. Monopoly anyone?

Fun fact: They (TWC lobbyists) made it a law in my state (NC) that municipalities that want to install their own fiber can't use bonds to fund the projects. (NC is notoriously full of lobbyist whores.)

/would get rid of TWC but the alternatives are almost worse.


Great... I'm heading to NC in August and noticed TWC was a provider...  I miss my Verizon FiOS that I had in Delaware.  Still, it's all better than the crap Kabel Deutschland DSL I'm paying $50 a month for @ 5mbs down/256 up...
 
2013-07-22 09:53:39 AM

bdub77: I hate TWC. Monopoly anyone?

Fun fact: They (TWC lobbyists) made it a law in my state (NC) that municipalities that want to install their own fiber can't use bonds to fund the projects. (NC is notoriously full of lobbyist whores.)

/would get rid of TWC but the alternatives are almost worse.


My only alternative in Charlotte is Uverse. But their fastest is still half the speed of TWC. I hate TWC with a passion. They know they have a monopoly and treat people like shiat cause what ya gonna do bout it?

cut the cord on cable/sat TV a few months ago and I am much happier.
 
2013-07-22 09:55:08 AM

gfid: CBS is the network that puts Charlie Rose Norah O'Donnell on its morning program and for that I am grateful.


FTFY. From what I've seen, CBS This Morning is a lot less fluff than Today and GMA.
 
2013-07-22 09:57:03 AM
 
2013-07-22 09:58:58 AM
So how long before a cable company just buys out Netflix? Problem solved, monopoly restored.
 
2013-07-22 10:04:43 AM
I got rid of cable almost a year ago, so TWC's threat has no meaning to me.  Between Hulu, CBS.com and Netflix, I'm doing alright.
 
2013-07-22 10:06:27 AM
This wouldn't be a problem if cable companies made boxes that picked up OTA signals and used those instead.
 
2013-07-22 10:07:58 AM
57 channels and nothin' on
 
2013-07-22 10:11:02 AM
If I were king, I would institute a true free market system:

1. All broadcast TV transmissions are shut down.
2. Reclaimed bandwidth is used for a national wireless network infrastructure. This is long overdue.
3. All cable/fiber companies are reduced to only providing an internet connection.
4. All content is delivered via IP-based methods. Anything you want is accessible by a little box like Roku or AppleTV.
 
2013-07-22 10:11:16 AM

Great Janitor: I got rid of cable almost a year ago, so TWC's threat has no meaning to me.  Between Hulu, CBS.com and Netflix, I'm doing alright.


Are you getting a kick out of these replies?
 
2013-07-22 10:12:09 AM

maxx2112: Yep . . . there's nothing CBS worth looking at.

[picture of that blonde kid from Big Bang Theory]


If you wanted to drive your point across you should have shown these two reasons:

us.cdn001.fansshare.com

Also.. mmmmm, Nora O'Donnell:

assets.nydailynews.comimages.politico.com
 
2013-07-22 10:14:40 AM

espiaboricua: maxx2112: Yep . . . there's nothing CBS worth looking at.

[picture of that blonde kid from Big Bang Theory]

If you wanted to drive your point across you should have shown these two reasons:

[us.cdn001.fansshare.com image 800x1199]

Also.. mmmmm, Nora O'Donnell:

[assets.nydailynews.com image 635x530][images.politico.com image 310x398]


Great, but no boobies on TV in this country.
Want to see Kat's boobies, it's on the internet, not TV.

Son, that right there is your problem.
 
2013-07-22 10:16:27 AM
CBS is perfectly happy broadcasting their signal for free directly to your antenna.

We already pay for amazon prime, and Hulu plus is only $8 a month, add digital antenna channels to that and a redbox down the street. We are planning on dumping charter within the month. Good for Time-Warner.
 
2013-07-22 10:19:49 AM
Isn't CBS the channel Under the Dome airs on before it goes on Amazon Prime?
 
2013-07-22 10:26:09 AM

skankboy: Great Janitor: I got rid of cable almost a year ago, so TWC's threat has no meaning to me.  Between Hulu, CBS.com and Netflix, I'm doing alright.

Are you getting a kick out of these replies?


Yeah, in a way I suppose.

The wife and I needed to cut back our expenses, so I said a $30 antenna is cheaper than what we're paying for cable.  We kept the internet (since it also came from our cable provider).  This summer the wife and I sat down, watched all of Archer on Netflix, the Netflix only season of Arrested Development then we moved on to watch all of 30 Rock (never watched it when it was first run, now we're near the end of season 6) and also she's gotten into Red Dwarf.  Next I'm thinking "Better Off Ted" since I missed most of it when it was first run as well as 'Orange is the new Black'.
 
2013-07-22 10:27:20 AM
Get an antenna. Cable systems have a nasty habit of recompressing the OTA signals. Not to mention, the cable companies want you to pay extra for HD. Hello, it's 2013, and nobody MAKES standard-definition TV sets anymore!

If you want to get fancy with HTPCs and the like, get one of those HDHomerun tuner boxes. It has two tuners, and will stream over-the-air signals to anything on your LAN.
 
2013-07-22 10:28:46 AM
I dropped Insight/TWC cable about 18 months ago and switched to Netflix, Redbox and streaming from the networks' own sites.  My monthly bill went from $160 to around $60 including Netflix fees.  Except for NFL and NCAA basketball coverage, I can't say I miss cable at all.

...And I definitely don't miss being inundated by political ads.  That alone is worth ditching cable.
 
2013-07-22 10:32:48 AM
"Oh, that episode."

i.imgur.com
 
2013-07-22 10:34:29 AM

Tommy Moo: "Oh, that episode."

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Thanks Reddit!
 
2013-07-22 10:35:22 AM

Great Janitor: skankboy: Great Janitor: I got rid of cable almost a year ago, so TWC's threat has no meaning to me.  Between Hulu, CBS.com and Netflix, I'm doing alright.

Are you getting a kick out of these replies?

Yeah, in a way I suppose.

The wife and I needed to cut back our expenses, so I said a $30 antenna is cheaper than what we're paying for cable.  We kept the internet (since it also came from our cable provider).  This summer the wife and I sat down, watched all of Archer on Netflix, the Netflix only season of Arrested Development then we moved on to watch all of 30 Rock (never watched it when it was first run, now we're near the end of season 6) and also she's gotten into Red Dwarf.  Next I'm thinking "Better Off Ted" since I missed most of it when it was first run as well as 'Orange is the new Black'.


Better Off Ted was awesome.  Orange is the New Black is something I'm enjoying so far (6 episodes in) but I'm not sure about it.  If you liked Weeds, you'll probably like it.

Be sure to watch House of Cards, too.  So awesome.
 
2013-07-22 10:37:02 AM
Take your old, broken, irrelevant business model and move along.
Squabbling over the crumbs of a dying industry is no way to go thru life, son.

Time for a new con.
 
2013-07-22 10:39:42 AM
Who the hell watches tv anyway?
 
2013-07-22 10:40:52 AM

space1999: This wouldn't be a problem if cable companies made boxes that picked up OTA signals and used those instead.


Who needs a box to pick up OTA signals? (other than a digital converter, if you have an old TV)
 
2013-07-22 10:49:10 AM
So basically, either way, the consumer loses out?  Either my cable bill goes up, or no football on CBS this fall.  fark you cable, I'm finally cancelling you.
 
2013-07-22 10:53:14 AM
Will not be able to see "CBS This Morning," "60 Minutes," "The Late Show" and "CSI," among other programs.

So what's the problem?
 
2013-07-22 10:59:41 AM

ChrisDe: space1999: This wouldn't be a problem if cable companies made boxes that picked up OTA signals and used those instead.

Who needs a box to pick up OTA signals? (other than a digital converter, if you have an old TV)


You don't need a box, but, it would be nice if "Channel 2.1, 2.2, 5.1, 5.2, 5.3...." etc, just "worked" through your provider supplied DVR box, instead of having to switch over to the TV receiver, and then you also don't have DVR capabilities there unless you switch over.

It isn't like the cable company doesn't rebroadcast most of the channels anyway (for people who don't have good reception), so, why not have an "antenna in", and make say channels (5000-5999) be the "OTA" channels through that (5021 is 2.1, 5022 is 2.2, 5031 is 3.1, etc) and then people can get in whatever is OTA (since some operators don't do some channels sometimes either).    Heck, I might have been more apt to stay with DirecTV if they'd had that on their box.
 
2013-07-22 11:00:23 AM
Leroy Jethro Gibbs frowns upon TWC's shenanigans.
 
2013-07-22 11:04:53 AM
Monopoly,  You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means.

I think the word you are looking for is Oligopoly,Anoligopoly is a in which a or is dominated by a small number of sellers (oligopolists). Oligopolies can result from various forms of collusion which reduce competition and lead to higher costs for consumers. Alternatively, oligopolies can see fierce competition because competitors can realize large gains and losses at each other's expense.

All cable companies are not competitors, they work together, it's not that Comcast doesn't want to go into TWC's area, it is they have an agreement, I'll stay over here, you stay over there and we'll both make money.

Hey I see Comcast charges $x.xx/month for this service in this area, my area near there I will do the same thing.

The only real competition for Cable is the feeble attempts of DSL Companies which offer some TV Service over the Internet, or Satellite
 
2013-07-22 11:08:06 AM

fatkidinabeenie: Monopoly,  You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means.

I think the word you are looking for is Oligopoly,Anoligopoly is a in which a or is dominated by a small number of sellers (oligopolists). Oligopolies can result from various forms of collusion which reduce competition and lead to higher costs for consumers. Alternatively, oligopolies can see fierce competition because competitors can realize large gains and losses at each other's expense.

All cable companies are not competitors, they work together, it's not that Comcast doesn't want to go into TWC's area, it is they have an agreement, I'll stay over here, you stay over there and we'll both make money.

Hey I see Comcast charges $x.xx/month for this service in this area, my area near there I will do the same thing.

The only real competition for Cable is the feeble attempts of DSL Companies which offer some TV Service over the Internet, or Satellite


Some areas have competition, ie, I can choose from Frontier FIOS or Comcast.  But, I do understand that is pretty rare still.  But, with Google fiber trying to launch, I think you'll start to see more and more of it, and it (might) bring the costs down.   Between those two and the two major dish operators though, I basically get mail bombed by whatever 3 services I don't have at a time to switch fairly regularly.
 
2013-07-22 11:10:36 AM

dletter: You don't need a box, but, it would be nice if "Channel 2.1, 2.2, 5.1, 5.2, 5.3...." etc, just "worked" through your provider supplied DVR box, instead of having to switch over to the TV receiver, and then you also don't have DVR capabilities there unless you switch over.

It isn't like the cable company doesn't rebroadcast most of the channels anyway (for people who don't have good reception), so, why not have an "antenna in", and make say channels (5000-5999) be the "OTA" channels through that (5021 is 2.1, 5022 is 2.2, 5031 is 3.1, etc) and then people can get in whatever is OTA (since some operators don't do some channels sometimes either).    Heck, I might have been more apt to stay with DirecTV if they'd had that on their box.


Because that's the first step towards a cafeteria-style plan, something providers are simply not willing to adopt.
 
2013-07-22 11:10:46 AM

meanmutton: Great Janitor: skankboy: Great Janitor: I got rid of cable almost a year ago, so TWC's threat has no meaning to me.  Between Hulu, CBS.com and Netflix, I'm doing alright.

Are you getting a kick out of these replies?

Yeah, in a way I suppose.

The wife and I needed to cut back our expenses, so I said a $30 antenna is cheaper than what we're paying for cable.  We kept the internet (since it also came from our cable provider).  This summer the wife and I sat down, watched all of Archer on Netflix, the Netflix only season of Arrested Development then we moved on to watch all of 30 Rock (never watched it when it was first run, now we're near the end of season 6) and also she's gotten into Red Dwarf.  Next I'm thinking "Better Off Ted" since I missed most of it when it was first run as well as 'Orange is the new Black'.

Better Off Ted was awesome.  Orange is the New Black is something I'm enjoying so far (6 episodes in) but I'm not sure about it.  If you liked Weeds, you'll probably like it.

Be sure to watch House of Cards, too.  So awesome.


A friend of mine recommended House of Cards to me last month.  I haven' seen Weeds, that's on my 'to watch' list.
 
2013-07-22 11:14:12 AM

bdub77: I hate TWC. Monopoly anyone?

Fun fact: They (TWC lobbyists) made it a law in my state (NC) that municipalities that want to install their own fiber can't use bonds to fund the projects. (NC is notoriously full of lobbyist whores.)

/would get rid of TWC but the alternatives are almost worse.


But I thought money was a form of free speech as per SCOTUS. How can companies force a municipality how to fund utility/infrastructure?
 
2013-07-22 11:18:47 AM
Hey guys, guys! I have this great idea. Let's deregulate the telecommunications industry! Prices will go down and services will go up.

People will have a choice when there's competition. You'll get broadband internet for $9.99!

/How's that going?
 
2013-07-22 11:18:57 AM

dletter: fatkidinabeenie: Monopoly,  You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means.

I think the word you are looking for is Oligopoly,Anoligopoly is a in which a or is dominated by a small number of sellers (oligopolists). Oligopolies can result from various forms of collusion which reduce competition and lead to higher costs for consumers. Alternatively, oligopolies can see fierce competition because competitors can realize large gains and losses at each other's expense.

All cable companies are not competitors, they work together, it's not that Comcast doesn't want to go into TWC's area, it is they have an agreement, I'll stay over here, you stay over there and we'll both make money.

Hey I see Comcast charges $x.xx/month for this service in this area, my area near there I will do the same thing.

The only real competition for Cable is the feeble attempts of DSL Companies which offer some TV Service over the Internet, or Satellite

Some areas have competition, ie, I can choose from Frontier FIOS or Comcast.  But, I do understand that is pretty rare still.  But, with Google fiber trying to launch, I think you'll start to see more and more of it, and it (might) bring the costs down.   Between those two and the two major dish operators though, I basically get mail bombed by whatever 3 services I don't have at a time to switch fairly regularly.


Frontier is a Telephone/DSL Service, that throws on Cable boxes that run over IP, FiOS as much as they want to appear as not cable, they still basically are, I know the local independent cable company I work for provides fiber to your home in some areas, in other areas they terminate the fiber optics normally just outside somewhere in your neighborhood, and switch it to a coax signal instead of in your basement/living room
 
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