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2013-07-22 08:25:14 AM
I'm pretty sure Xbox One submissions on Fark follow the "I'm learning something new and cool about the Xbox and can still claim that I don't like it like all the other cool kids" model.
 
2013-07-22 08:34:37 AM
Does the new Kinect have the correct range for an average size room?
 
2013-07-22 08:37:31 AM
I'm not touching the XBone with a ten foot pole.  Microsoft really shot themselves in the foot when they built a targeted advertising platform instead of an entertainment console.
 
2013-07-22 08:37:58 AM
I begin to think that the marketing blunders of the XboxOne early on will be eventually offset by superior hardware and software.

I don't follow this shiat too closely, though, but... Mmm.
 
2013-07-22 08:45:49 AM

Summercat: I begin to think that the marketing blunders of the XboxOne early on will be eventually offset by superior hardware and software.

I don't follow this shiat too closely, though, but... Mmm.


Superior compared to what?

Sure it's stronger than the WiiU, but Nintendo has a very solid stable of 1st party IPs that will keep them afloat (especially if they buy out ATLUS as is rumored).

Thanks to the W8 partition in the memory, the One is weaker than the PS4, dedicating 3 GB of its DDR3 RAM to non-game tasks, vs the PS4s only dedicating 1 of its DDR5 RAM.

Software, One vs PS4 is going to come down to a narrow band of exclusives, as with the similar x86 architecture there will be little reason to be exclusive other than cash up from from one or the other (or in house development ie the Infamous and Halo franchises.) Heck, even the big exclusive for the One, Titanfall, is only a timed exclusive.
 
2013-07-22 08:46:38 AM
Does it crawl directly up your ass?
 
2013-07-22 08:46:54 AM

PanicMan: Does the new Kinect have the correct range for an average size room?


Actually, yes; the camera is significantly wider-angle (not to mention much higher resolution).  They report having a 60% larger 'range' of usability.

http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/121188-xbox-one-new-wide-angle-kinec t- will-solve-uk-home-woes
 
2013-07-22 08:47:21 AM
*cash up front

Too early, no caffeine yet
 
2013-07-22 08:47:38 AM
Kinect will also be able to scan and create a full 3D image of your face, which can then be applied to your avatar. This personalisation will even extend to your BMI, which will be reflected by your avatar's body shape.

This face mapped to your avatar will also be a real time representation of your own mug, including your current emotional state. So, if you're happy, your avatar will reflect that. Start to feel the rage, however, and so will your digital doppelgänger.


the future of gaming right there
 
2013-07-22 08:47:41 AM

Klivian: Thanks to the W8 partition in the memory, the One is weaker than the PS4, dedicating 3 GB of its DDR3 RAM to non-game tasks, vs the PS4s only dedicating 1 of its DDR5 RAM.



Virtualization, how does it work?
 
2013-07-22 08:48:04 AM
Oh, what about games that actually use the Kinect 2? **Crickets**

Well...

Battlefield 4
Crimson Dragon
Dead Rising 3
D4
Fantasia: Music Evolved
FIFA 14
Forza Motorsport 5
Just Dance 2014
Kinect Sports Rivals
Project Spark
Ryse: Son of Rome
The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt
Zumba Fitness: World Party


This was not hard to find.

Or was subby "just asking questions" like cable news commentators "just ask questions?"
 
2013-07-22 08:51:52 AM
FTA: "Also discussed during the panel was Capcom's Dead Rising 3, which is looking very promising, offering a true, open world sandbox with no loading times. You can see a developer trailer for the game below. "

Did you fix the stupid-ass save system yet? No? Then pass.

/Just want to have a shopping mall full of toys to kill zombies with, don't want to deal with friggin' permadeath.
 
2013-07-22 08:56:33 AM

Summercat: I begin to think that the marketing blunders of the XboxOne early on will be eventually offset by superior hardware and software.

I don't follow this shiat too closely, though, but... Mmm.


Hate to break it to you, but the PS4's actual confirmed stats are superior.

Cloud crap is inconsistent, unreliable, and prone to change at MS's convenience, so you can't rely on it.


img.photobucket.com
 
2013-07-22 08:57:58 AM

Klivian: Summercat: I begin to think that the marketing blunders of the XboxOne early on will be eventually offset by superior hardware and software.

I don't follow this shiat too closely, though, but... Mmm.

Superior compared to what?

Sure it's stronger than the WiiU, but Nintendo has a very solid stable of 1st party IPs that will keep them afloat (especially if they buy out ATLUS as is rumored).

Thanks to the W8 partition in the memory, the One is weaker than the PS4, dedicating 3 GB of its DDR3 RAM to non-game tasks, vs the PS4s only dedicating 1 of its DDR5 RAM.

Software, One vs PS4 is going to come down to a narrow band of exclusives, as with the similar x86 architecture there will be little reason to be exclusive other than cash up from from one or the other (or in house development ie the Infamous and Halo franchises.) Heck, even the big exclusive for the One, Titanfall, is only a timed exclusive.


You clearly can't see past your hate for the Xbox and must be some sort of Sony fanboi. The Xbox One has already won the next generation, that much is obvious. From the incredible new interactive experiences allowed by the Kinect, to the turbo boost processing thanks to using the same paint as is used on the stealth bomber, the Xbox One is probably ahead of even the PS5.
 
2013-07-22 08:58:46 AM

Klivian: Summercat: I begin to think that the marketing blunders of the XboxOne early on will be eventually offset by superior hardware and software.

I don't follow this shiat too closely, though, but... Mmm.

Superior compared to what?

Sure it's stronger than the WiiU, but Nintendo has a very solid stable of 1st party IPs that will keep them afloat (especially if they buy out ATLUS as is rumored).

Thanks to the W8 partition in the memory, the One is weaker than the PS4, dedicating 3 GB of its DDR3 RAM to non-game tasks, vs the PS4s only dedicating 1 of its DDR5 RAM.

Software, One vs PS4 is going to come down to a narrow band of exclusives, as with the similar x86 architecture there will be little reason to be exclusive other than cash up from from one or the other (or in house development ie the Infamous and Halo franchises.) Heck, even the big exclusive for the One, Titanfall, is only a timed exclusive.


nobody's going to use all the ram on either console anyways, 8gb gddr5 is the new 50gb bluy-ray disc - a gimmick to offset weak processors
 
2013-07-22 08:59:39 AM

MightyPez: Oh, what about games that actually use the Kinect 2? **Crickets**

Well...

Battlefield 4
Crimson Dragon
Dead Rising 3
D4
Fantasia: Music Evolved
FIFA 14
Forza Motorsport 5
Just Dance 2014
Kinect Sports Rivals
Project Spark
Ryse: Son of Rome
The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt
Zumba Fitness: World Party

This was not hard to find.

Or was subby "just asking questions" like cable news commentators "just ask questions?"


Now out of that list, how many of those are actually incorporating the Kinect as anything but either a 'you can use this if you want' or a minor gimmick?

Also, can I turn the goddamn thing OFF yet?  Without it 'listening for commands'?  Cause if not, NO SALE.
 
2013-07-22 09:00:47 AM
The answer is that microsoft is requiring the kinect at launch so that it can compel kinect support from all developers . . . So all of them. All the games will support kinect.
 
2013-07-22 09:01:56 AM

AdamK: Kinect will also be able to scan and create a full 3D image of your face, which can then be applied to your avatar. This personalisation will even extend to your BMI, which will be reflected by your avatar's body shape.

This face mapped to your avatar will also be a real time representation of your own mug, including your current emotional state. So, if you're happy, your avatar will reflect that. Start to feel the rage, however, and so will your digital doppelgänger.

the future of gaming right there


I hope this is a requirement not an option. Nothing would make me laugh harder then a bunch of fat little soldiers running around in halo and COD.
 
2013-07-22 09:02:24 AM

xellas84: MightyPez: Oh, what about games that actually use the Kinect 2? **Crickets**

Well...

Battlefield 4
Crimson Dragon
Dead Rising 3
D4
Fantasia: Music Evolved
FIFA 14
Forza Motorsport 5
Just Dance 2014
Kinect Sports Rivals
Project Spark
Ryse: Son of Rome
The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt
Zumba Fitness: World Party

This was not hard to find.

Or was subby "just asking questions" like cable news commentators "just ask questions?"

Now out of that list, how many of those are actually incorporating the Kinect as anything but either a 'you can use this if you want' or a minor gimmick?

Also, can I turn the goddamn thing OFF yet?  Without it 'listening for commands'?  Cause if not, NO SALE.


Don't buy it then, no one cares about your paranoia about being watched while masturbating.
 
2013-07-22 09:02:54 AM

MightyPez: Oh, what about games that actually use the Kinect 2? **Crickets**

Well...

Battlefield 4
Crimson Dragon
Dead Rising 3
D4
Fantasia: Music Evolved
FIFA 14
Forza Motorsport 5
Just Dance 2014
Kinect Sports Rivals
Project Spark
Ryse: Son of Rome
The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt
Zumba Fitness: World Party

This was not hard to find.

Or was subby "just asking questions" like cable news commentators "just ask questions?"


D4 is the only game that will probably use the kinect in interesting ways, and that's just because Swery

all the rest will either have features shoe-horned in or be dance/fitness games

sounds like the current kinect support on xbox 360
 
2013-07-22 09:03:11 AM
FTA: Kinect will also be able to scan and create a full 3D image of your face, which can then be applied to your avatar. This personalisation will even extend to your BMI, which will be reflected by your avatar's body shape.

Because people want their avatars to look as hideous and fat as they are in real life.  Which begs the question, is MS actively trying to sabotage the XboxOne?
 
2013-07-22 09:03:31 AM

Arthen: The answer is that microsoft is requiring the kinect at launch so that it can compel kinect support from all developers . . . So all of them. All the games will support kinect.


But no developer will spend much time on it since PS3 and PC don't support Kinect. Most developers plan for multiplatform and then do a little bit of customization.
 
2013-07-22 09:03:52 AM
Some of that stuff is alright, but it still all seems to be either:

a. Fancy bells and whistles

b. Stuff you can already do by pushing a button or two.

Given that people play video games for escapism, I don't think the real you avatar will have the appeal they think it will. I wonder if you will have to pay to get rod of your avatar's beer belly.
 
2013-07-22 09:06:20 AM

MightyPez: Forza Motorsport 5


Kinect in Forza 4 was nothing more than a silly gimmick, and it's not going to be better in FM5.  The head tracking was the only semi-decent feature, but probably only 1-5% of players actually used it because most of the limitations made it impractical.

Microsoft and Turn 10 have effectively convinced about 90% of their longtime players to stay well away thanks to all these blunders.  I know tons of Forza diehards who have no intention of buying an XBox One or FM5 because of it.

I personally decided to avoid it altogether and bought an entry level gaming PC and will just wait for Project C.A.R.S. instead.
 
2013-07-22 09:07:13 AM

Arthen: The answer is that microsoft is requiring the kinect at launch so that it can compel kinect support from all developers . . . So all of them. All the games will support kinect.


Maybe all of the Xbox One exclusive games (which I stil doubt). You won't see that on cross-platform games as devs won't devote the time/resources/cash to a peripheral that's only on one system. The most you'll see is simple voice commands like Mass Effect 3.
 
2013-07-22 09:08:06 AM
digistil:
You clearly can't see past your hate for the Xbox and must be some sort of Sony fanboi.
The Xbox One has already won the next generation, that much is obvious.
 From the incredible new interactive experiences allowed by the Kinect
,
to the turbo boost processing thanks to using the same paint as is used on the stealth bomber, the Xbox One is probably ahead of even the PS5

i think i see what you did here

well done sir

.
 
2013-07-22 09:09:01 AM

Carth: But no developer will spend much time on it since PS3 and PC don't support Kinect.


They announced that the Kinect will be usable on the PC, using a usb connection.
 
2013-07-22 09:12:51 AM

Vertdang: Carth: But no developer will spend much time on it since PS3 and PC don't support Kinect.

They announced that the Kinect will be usable on the PC, using a usb connection.


The current Kinect can be used on the PC, yet not a single PC w/Kinect game has ever been made. And there won't ever be one as it will be a completely optional peripheral for your PC. Sure you'll have people who mod games to get the Kinect to perform some functions, but developers won't waste time doing that.
 
2013-07-22 09:13:11 AM

MightyPez: Oh, what about games that actually use the Kinect 2? **Crickets**

Well...

Battlefield 4
Crimson Dragon
Dead Rising 3
D4
Fantasia: Music Evolved
FIFA 14
Forza Motorsport 5
Just Dance 2014
Kinect Sports Rivals
Project Spark
Ryse: Son of Rome
The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt
Zumba Fitness: World Party

This was not hard to find.

Or was subby "just asking questions" like cable news commentators "just ask questions?"


That looks terrible
 
2013-07-22 09:13:11 AM

MightyPez: Oh, what about games that actually use the Kinect 2? **Crickets**

Well...

Battlefield 4
Crimson Dragon
Dead Rising 3
D4
Fantasia: Music Evolved
FIFA 14
Forza Motorsport 5
Just Dance 2014
Kinect Sports Rivals
Project Spark
Ryse: Son of Rome
The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt
Zumba Fitness: World Party

This was not hard to find.

Or was subby "just asking questions" like cable news commentators "just ask questions?"


Can you please state the difference between "Supported" and "Yes" in that list, or were you just stating "facts" like cable news commentators "just state facts?"

Here's the "Yes" list:

Fantasia: Music Evolved
Just Dance 2014
Kinect Sports Rivals
Zumba Fitness: World Party


So...3 music games and a generic sports game...

/sounds about right...
 
2013-07-22 09:13:22 AM

Copperbelly watersnake: Some of that stuff is alright, but it still all seems to be either:

a. Fancy bells and whistles

b. Stuff you can already do by pushing a button or two.

Given that people play video games for escapism, I don't think the real you avatar will have the appeal they think it will. I wonder if you will have to pay to get rod of your avatar's beer belly.


Beyond just that... I'm with Yahtzee on the concept that motion scanning and control is a complete step backwards.  To make a movement on screen with a controller, I flick my thumb... a fast, small movement that takes little to no thought.  To move with the Kinect, I have to make a large sweeping motion that takes more thought and effort and has a higher risk of being misunderstood by the game and breaking immersion.  Games exist to create immersion, that feel that I'm IN the game.

CSB time, the only real motion control I've had experience with was a roommate who had a Wii and Zelda: twilight princess.  The sword swing by swinging Wii was cool... for the first hour.  After that I learned to simply flick my wrist like I was fishing rather than actually swing, because it was tiring and inaccurate.  I'm imagining the Kinect will be similar.
 
2013-07-22 09:15:07 AM
"Xbox One Kinect 2", which is actually a component of the third Xbox.

And people give Nintendo shiat for confusing console naming.
 
2013-07-22 09:15:58 AM

scottydoesntknow: Vertdang: Carth: But no developer will spend much time on it since PS3 and PC don't support Kinect.

They announced that the Kinect will be usable on the PC, using a usb connection.

The current Kinect can be used on the PC, yet not a single PC w/Kinect game has ever been made. And there won't ever be one as it will be a completely optional peripheral for your PC. Sure you'll have people who mod games to get the Kinect to perform some functions, but developers won't waste time doing that.


I was merely commenting on the fact that yes it DOES support the kinect, not that anyone is developing for it. I wouldn't expect anyone to, unless they decided to package a kinect with whatever PC game they're selling.
 
2013-07-22 09:18:58 AM

Carth: Arthen: The answer is that microsoft is requiring the kinect at launch so that it can compel kinect support from all developers . . . So all of them. All the games will support kinect.

But no developer will spend much time on it since PS3 and PC don't support Kinect. Most developers plan for multiplatform and then do a little bit of customization.


historically the general rule of thumb with 3rd party support for platform-exclusive peripheral/control schemes is:

-if it affects gameplay then it's going to suck most of the time (waggle/3d/stylus controls/etc.)
-if it's a supplement to gameplay then it should be okay (second screen/off-tv/oculus/etc.)

don't blame me, that's just how it works
 
2013-07-22 09:23:44 AM

xellas84: Copperbelly watersnake: Some of that stuff is alright, but it still all seems to be either:

a. Fancy bells and whistles

b. Stuff you can already do by pushing a button or two.

Given that people play video games for escapism, I don't think the real you avatar will have the appeal they think it will. I wonder if you will have to pay to get rod of your avatar's beer belly.

Beyond just that... I'm with Yahtzee on the concept that motion scanning and control is a complete step backwards.  To make a movement on screen with a controller, I flick my thumb... a fast, small movement that takes little to no thought.  To move with the Kinect, I have to make a large sweeping motion that takes more thought and effort and has a higher risk of being misunderstood by the game and breaking immersion.  Games exist to create immersion, that feel that I'm IN the game.

CSB time, the only real motion control I've had experience with was a roommate who had a Wii and Zelda: twilight princess.  The sword swing by swinging Wii was cool... for the first hour.  After that I learned to simply flick my wrist like I was fishing rather than actually swing, because it was tiring and inaccurate.  I'm imagining the Kinect will be similar.


when they made Skyward Sword of the wii using motion+ (a more accurate/higher fidelity version of the wiimote) they tried to make gameplay that actively required thoughtful swinging of the wiimote instead of Twilight Princess's shoe-horned waggle

you can make it all the way to the final boss by just waggling tho
 
2013-07-22 09:24:56 AM

Vertdang: scottydoesntknow: Vertdang: Carth: But no developer will spend much time on it since PS3 and PC don't support Kinect.

They announced that the Kinect will be usable on the PC, using a usb connection.

The current Kinect can be used on the PC, yet not a single PC w/Kinect game has ever been made. And there won't ever be one as it will be a completely optional peripheral for your PC. Sure you'll have people who mod games to get the Kinect to perform some functions, but developers won't waste time doing that.

I was merely commenting on the fact that yes it DOES support the kinect, not that anyone is developing for it. I wouldn't expect anyone to, unless they decided to package a kinect with whatever PC game they're selling.


Ohh yea, wasn't trying to jump on you. And I like that Microsoft opened the Kinect for PC people to play with it. They've got some cool ideas rolling around, I just feel like this is gonna be exactly the same this generation. You'll get some exclusives that use the Kinect pretty well, and others that fail miserably

If they can fix the issue of every Kinect game being on rails or guided, it'll make it better. But that's hard to do when people are limited to the space in their living room.

I wish they would've parterned up with Oculus to make that the official peripheral. That wou;d've been badass.
 
2013-07-22 09:28:44 AM

AdamK: nobody's going to use all the ram on either console anyways, 8gb gddr5 is the new 50gb bluy-ray disc - a gimmick to offset weak processors


I'd agree with you if we were talking about a single function using all available memory but both consoles will probably multi-task and keep most recently used 'apps' in RAM.   So yeah the machines'll use it... but I agree it's probably not going to be all used at once by a single task (i.e. a game).
 
2013-07-22 09:34:32 AM

Vaneshi: AdamK: nobody's going to use all the ram on either console anyways, 8gb gddr5 is the new 50gb bluy-ray disc - a gimmick to offset weak processors

I'd agree with you if we were talking about a single function using all available memory but both consoles will probably multi-task and keep most recently used 'apps' in RAM.   So yeah the machines'll use it... but I agree it's probably not going to be all used at once by a single task (i.e. a game).


From what I've read, the Xbox One will have 8GB DDR3 RAM with 3GB being dedicated to system operations/multi-tasking, so 5GB will be for games.

PS4 hasn't said anything about what will be dedicated where.
 
2013-07-22 09:36:02 AM

AdamK: Kinect will also be able to scan and create a full 3D image of your face, which can then be applied to your avatar. This personalisation will even extend to your BMI, which will be reflected by your avatar's body shape.

This face mapped to your avatar will also be a real time representation of your own mug, including your current emotional state. So, if you're happy, your avatar will reflect that. Start to feel the rage, however, and so will your digital doppelgänger.

the future of gaming right there


Am I the only one who found that to be really creepy?
 
2013-07-22 09:41:07 AM

facisto: AdamK: Kinect will also be able to scan and create a full 3D image of your face, which can then be applied to your avatar. This personalisation will even extend to your BMI, which will be reflected by your avatar's body shape.

This face mapped to your avatar will also be a real time representation of your own mug, including your current emotional state. So, if you're happy, your avatar will reflect that. Start to feel the rage, however, and so will your digital doppelgänger.

the future of gaming right there

Am I the only one who found that to be really creepy?


I wouldn't want my girls using that feature. they'd have more creepers than minecraft.
 
2013-07-22 09:41:24 AM
Some new Kinect features were further elaborated on, including the new sensor's ability to detect individual finger movements from within around three meters


This, I think, could prove to be the more important feature.
Pulse/face tracking might be handy in horror or survival sandbox games. Amping things up or down according to the users reactions.  The whole body controller is mainly for exercise and putting new spin on phone apps. These kinds of things are X1 exclusive since it requires building the game around kinect features.

Finger gestures and voice command, if they can be used reliably from the couch, add optional buttons to my control and make play more efficient. Its real minority report stuff, when it works. 
It can be used on cross platform titles since the underlying features are available on all consoles and PC. PS4 players get all of the same options, but X1 players can activate them without flipping through a touch screen menu or convoluted UI. 

In the end developers care about selling games.
Adding some Kinect features means, even if the title is cross platform, they'll attract more interest from X1 owners.

/Since theres going to be a million COD clones on every platform, setting yourself apart is important.
/I'd wire any non-original rehash game to use the PS4 touchpad, PC's oculus, or X1's kinect if the money allows.
 
2013-07-22 09:41:35 AM
The majority of those "features" are gimmicky and/or flat-out creepy.  Until the damn thing can be disconnected entirely without bricking the console (not the permanent kind of bricking), then no amount of "look, it can map your face and see how you're reacting to the ads...er games" will sell me on it.
 
2013-07-22 09:43:34 AM
Does anybody between the ages of 13 and 40 actually like the Kinect anyway?

Until we reach total immersion, I have a hard time seeing anything good in systems like the Kinect outside of their status as stepping stones to a full-VR experience.

Clunkily waving my appendages around so my disconnected avatar can awkwardly lurch his way around a video game environment just isn't the list bit appealing, sorry.

/ and I don't really find using a remote control to be terribly difficult so the abracadabra device control thing isn't a big deal either
 
2013-07-22 09:43:58 AM
Kinect will also be able to scan and create a full 3D image of your face, which can then be applied to your avatar. This personalisation will even extend to your BMI, which will be reflected by your avatar's body shape.

So much for escapism and fantasy on a gaming console...  Good jorb stalkerbox 180
 
2013-07-22 09:45:05 AM

scottydoesntknow: Vaneshi: AdamK: nobody's going to use all the ram on either console anyways, 8gb gddr5 is the new 50gb bluy-ray disc - a gimmick to offset weak processors

I'd agree with you if we were talking about a single function using all available memory but both consoles will probably multi-task and keep most recently used 'apps' in RAM.   So yeah the machines'll use it... but I agree it's probably not going to be all used at once by a single task (i.e. a game).

From what I've read, the Xbox One will have 8GB DDR3 RAM with 3GB being dedicated to system operations/multi-tasking, so 5GB will be for games.

PS4 hasn't said anything about what will be dedicated where.


The PS4 will have 8GB GDDR5 with 7GB for games.  It was announced a while ago.
 
2013-07-22 09:47:36 AM

skozlaw: Does anybody between the ages of 13 and 40 actually like the Kinect anyway?


It has its moments, but beyond that it's still gimmicky. My family's had a great time playing games like Fruit Ninja and GunStringer and the voice commands can work as long as the TV volume isn't too high.

But overall it's not used nearly as much as you'd want it to be.

Sargun: The PS4 will have 8GB GDDR5 with 7GB for games. It was announced a while ago.


I knew they had the 8GB DDR5, but didn't know what was dedicated. Thanks for letting me know!
 
2013-07-22 09:47:47 AM
I stopped having this argument/debate on Xbox One (Dumb farking name) vs PS4...

The last Playstation I owned was a PS2, I fell for the Xbox and then Xbox 360... But Microsoft made my decision for me after all the stupid shiat they tried to do in the beginning.

Also I already made up my mind, when it comes time for the systems, it'll be a PS4 this cycle, just not going to get it on day 1 like I usually do, I'll wait for decent games to be out first then maybe buy some used or lower priced games by then.

/PC good enough for me for now...
 
2013-07-22 09:52:36 AM
i personally am looking forward to steel battalion 2

in case you are curious, the original steel battalion got a 35 metacritic score because of gameplay control issues where you had to use the kinect. however, that scored is a little buffed by xbox magazine's 'respectable' 75 score
 
2013-07-22 09:54:39 AM

divgradcurl: i personally am looking forward to steel battalion 2

in case you are curious, the original steel battalion got a 35 metacritic score because of gameplay control issues where you had to use the kinect. however, that scored is a little buffed by xbox magazine's 'respectable' 75 score


wasn't xbox magazine more of a mouthpiece for xbox than an objective magazine?
 
2013-07-22 09:57:34 AM
Typing this on a computer with 16 gigs of DDR3, built in 2011.   Wondering why Microsoft cant put together a decent memory configuration in 2013...
 
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