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(Fark)   Subby saw two bursts between M26 and Cygnus. Anyone know what they were?   (fark.com) divider line 81
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2013-07-22 02:15:11 AM
It wasn't an aircraft as it didn't continue beyond the two bursts. It wasn't a satellite as the burst were in the same position. Also, I don't have street lights here.
 
2013-07-22 02:15:48 AM
Dammit subby, I'm a farker, not an astronomer!
 
2013-07-22 02:23:51 AM
I blame the sequester. We're still doing that, right?
 
2013-07-22 02:24:44 AM
Attack ships on fire.
 
2013-07-22 02:26:55 AM
Was it Unexplainably Juicy™?

1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-07-22 02:27:12 AM
Debris reflection from yesterdays launch?

/total guessing here
 
2013-07-22 02:27:13 AM
Gamma ray?
 
2013-07-22 02:30:34 AM
Dual supernovas. Because of the gamma and x-rays, you're now blind.
 
2013-07-22 02:40:07 AM

LordOfThePings: Was it Unexplainably Juicy™?


No more Trayvon threads!

If it was debris wouldn't they last some time more than a moment? A super novae wouldn't repeat right? I'd like to think that's what it was because it would be so rare but I doubt it.

Is there a website that lists these sorts of things?
 
2013-07-22 02:57:54 AM

MoonPirate: LordOfThePings: Was it Unexplainably Juicy™?

No more Trayvon threads!

If it was debris wouldn't they last some time more than a moment? A super novae wouldn't repeat right? I'd like to think that's what it was because it would be so rare but I doubt it.

Is there a website that lists these sorts of things?


I've seen debris from a russian rocket that just looked like two flashes. It was spinning in a decaying orbit and just happened to reflect the sun in the direction I was in for a couple rotations.

/Heard about it a few days later when the section burned up on re-entry... NPR was talking about the number of people who had seen it "flashing"

//Iridium flares are cool too .. but very obvious.
 
2013-07-22 03:04:04 AM

MoonPirate: Is there a website that lists these sorts of things?


http://www.astronomyforum.net/astronomy-beginners-forum/
 
2013-07-22 04:31:49 AM
Pics or it didn't happen.
 
2013-07-22 07:13:49 AM
That was Voyager taking your picture.
 
2013-07-22 07:16:26 AM
Oh, c'mon FARK! 14 comments in and no "but it's aliens" meme?
 
2013-07-22 07:18:37 AM
www.partyviberadio.com
 
2013-07-22 07:23:05 AM

MoonPirate: It wasn't an aircraft as it didn't continue beyond the two bursts. It wasn't a satellite as the burst were in the same position. Also, I don't have street lights here.


All right, MoonPirate, there was no alien. The flash of light you saw in the sky was not a UFO. Swamp gas from a weather balloon was trapped in a thermal pocket and reflected the light from Venus.
 
2013-07-22 07:24:30 AM
Guardians of the Galaxy viral marketing campaign.
 
2013-07-22 07:29:17 AM
Astrophysicist here:
Dumb question... naked eye or telescope? Cause if naked eye, satellite would be a no.
Being in the same place doesn't preclude satellite... I don't know of any in particular in that vicinity, but our orbit is pretty crowded.

Also, could be debris- something breaking apart just before entry and burn-up.

Also, could be the new NSA nanoprobes activating to record everything to see. I didn't know they were coming online yet, but maybe you got into the open beta. Report any redness, tiredness or blurred vision. Blink twice rapidly and squint to submit a bug report. It's all to stop terrorism, so... you know. Thanks.
 
2013-07-22 07:29:24 AM

doglover: Attack ships on fire.


WRONG CONSTELLATION, ROY
 
2013-07-22 07:30:25 AM
Swamp gas from a weather balloon was trapped in a thermal pocket and reflected the light from Venus.
 
2013-07-22 07:31:29 AM

ARedthorn: Astrophysicist here:
Dumb question... naked eye or telescope? Cause if naked eye, satellite would be a no.


Uhhh.... many satellites can be seen with the naked eye, buddy.
 
2013-07-22 07:34:58 AM
I don't know of any satellites with flashing lights that can be seen with the naked eye from the earth's surface.

Burning up is a different story.
Passing into or out of a shadow is different story. I'm assuming here that that didn't happen. It's an assumption, but... not an unreasonable one.
 
2013-07-22 07:36:08 AM
www.forkedatfark.org
 
2013-07-22 07:36:53 AM
That's a big chunk of sky there, subby - I mean, depending on what you're talking about, that's anywhere between 40°-60°.  Can you narrow it down any?  When you say "Cygnus", where in Cygnus do you mean?  Albireo?  Deneb?  Sadr?  One of the wings?  Can you describe where in between these bursts were?  Was it closer to Altair or Vega?  Was it in the middle of the summer triangle or along one of the edges?  (For that matter, why is M26 - an open cluster which can't be seen with the naked eye in a not-very-bright constellation - one of your reference points?)  What time did you see these bursts, and (roughly) from where?  What did they look like?  How long did they last?  Did they appear to be moving or stationary?

In the absence of any information that would be useful in tracking this down, I'm going to guess it was a satellite.  It looks like these things do sometimes happen in pairs.
 
2013-07-22 07:37:23 AM

ARedthorn: I don't know of any satellites with flashing lights that can be seen with the naked eye from the earth's surface.


I don't know of any satellites at all that have "flashing lights" but I also don't what every single satellite is and neither do you.

The point is that potentially hundreds of them can be seen with the naked eye.
 
2013-07-22 07:37:51 AM

MoonPirate: I blame the sequester. We're still doing that, right?


or Bush.
 
2013-07-22 07:40:54 AM
Fair. Like I said, space is crowded. I thought flares off the reflective surfaces were only visible at dusk (satellite has to be on edge of earth's shadow, and not visible in daylight)... plaidhat's links say otherwise.

Gonna have to go with his answer.
 
2013-07-22 07:47:18 AM

ARedthorn: Fair. Like I said, space is crowded. I thought flares off the reflective surfaces were only visible at dusk (satellite has to be on edge of earth's shadow, and not visible in daylight)... plaidhat's links say otherwise.

Gonna have to go with his answer.


Maybe it was just John Travolta having another Phenomenon experience.
 
2013-07-22 07:50:00 AM

ARedthorn: Astrophysicist here:
Dumb question... naked eye or telescope? Cause if naked eye, satellite would be a no.


You're not a very good astrophysicist, then.  'Cause I've seen plenty of satellites with the naked eye.  In fact, it was a bit of a hobby of mine when I was younger.
 
2013-07-22 07:51:55 AM

dittybopper: ARedthorn: Astrophysicist here:
Dumb question... naked eye or telescope? Cause if naked eye, satellite would be a no.

You're not a very good astrophysicist, then.  'Cause I've seen plenty of satellites with the naked eye.  In fact, it was a bit of a hobby of mine when I was younger.


This has been addressed.
 
2013-07-22 07:53:35 AM
Cygnus is next to Cybertron, right? Probably just this guy again:i2.ytimg.com
 
2013-07-22 07:53:45 AM

ARedthorn: I don't know of any satellites with flashing lights that can be seen with the naked eye from the earth's surface.

Burning up is a different story.
Passing into or out of a shadow is different story. I'm assuming here that that didn't happen. It's an assumption, but... not an unreasonable one.


Irregularly shaped objects like boosters and the like that are tumbling can "flare" to visibility and then fade back enough that you can't see them, depending on their exact orientation, blah, blah, blah.

A piece of debris in orbit could easily cause this, or even multiple ones following the same orbit (like what happens when a satellite blows up).
 
2013-07-22 07:54:52 AM
(tinypic.com: "enter following: what's that)
oi42.tinypic.com
 
2013-07-22 08:02:47 AM

ARedthorn: Fair. Like I said, space is crowded. I thought flares off the reflective surfaces were only visible at dusk (satellite has to be on edge of earth's shadow, and not visible in daylight)... plaidhat's links say otherwise.


Ha ha -- an Astrophysicist -- isn't that the same as an Astronomer?

/kidding
 
2013-07-22 08:05:47 AM
Might have just been a final flash of glory, but that's usually even invisible to telescopic eyes. Kind of cool to see that light coming through the void, though... is there something more to help us figure it out, or are we just going to stare headlong into this mystery? Truth and understanding regarding this mystery would be precious gifts beyond compare...
 
2013-07-22 08:13:06 AM
www.firefly.org
 
2013-07-22 08:17:16 AM

OhioKnight: ARedthorn: Fair. Like I said, space is crowded. I thought flares off the reflective surfaces were only visible at dusk (satellite has to be on edge of earth's shadow, and not visible in daylight)... plaidhat's links say otherwise.

Ha ha -- an Astrophysicist -- isn't that the same as an Astronomer?

/kidding


I think you mean Astrologer.
 
2013-07-22 08:18:53 AM
Were you within 1-2 hours of sunrise or sunset?

www.heavens-above.com is a great site for seeing which satellites and spent boosters might have been visible in your location.

You're sure it wasn't an Iridium flare?
 
2013-07-22 08:19:42 AM

MoonPirate: It wasn't an aircraft as it didn't continue beyond the two bursts. It wasn't a satellite as the burst were in the same position. Also, I don't have street lights here.


Give us your approx lat/long and the time this happened (UTC), please.
 
2013-07-22 08:19:59 AM
Did they have a strong beryllium component in their spectra? If so, I gotta go find some thallium.
 
2013-07-22 08:25:03 AM

Ned Snark: OhioKnight: ARedthorn: Fair. Like I said, space is crowded. I thought flares off the reflective surfaces were only visible at dusk (satellite has to be on edge of earth's shadow, and not visible in daylight)... plaidhat's links say otherwise.

Ha ha -- an Astrophysicist -- isn't that the same as an Astronomer?

/kidding

I think you mean Astrologer.


Is that like... String Theorist?
 
2013-07-22 08:34:44 AM
i1162.photobucket.com
 
2013-07-22 08:41:25 AM

theorellior: Did they have a strong beryllium component in their spectra? If so, I gotta go find some thallium.


I have a couple of sweet potatoes you can use.
 
2013-07-22 08:48:24 AM

JayCab: Might have just been a final flash of glory, but that's usually even invisible to telescopic eyes. Kind of cool to see that light coming through the void, though... is there something more to help us figure it out, or are we just going to stare headlong into this mystery? Truth and understanding regarding this mystery would be precious gifts beyond compare...

 
2013-07-22 08:49:07 AM

JayCab: Might have just been a final flash of glory, but that's usually even invisible to telescopic eyes. Kind of cool to see that light coming through the void, though... is there something more to help us figure it out, or are we just going to stare headlong into this mystery? Truth and understanding regarding this mystery would be precious gifts beyond compare...


Well done.

I will call you Cygnus.  The God of Balance you shall be.
 
2013-07-22 08:59:53 AM
By the way, here's the trailer for Neil deGrasse Tyson's new "Cosmos" series.
 
2013-07-22 09:04:16 AM
Gallactica finally found earth
 
2013-07-22 09:22:06 AM
I got a picture of it....

www.shadowlocked.com
 
2013-07-22 09:23:09 AM

meatofmystery: Gallactica finally found earth


Good.  They seriously need to upgrade their display technology:
 
2013-07-22 09:24:22 AM
The flashes of light were actually god's tears.  And god was crying because subby touches himself.
 
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