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(Globe and Mail)   Canadian government experts create program that creates apathy in voters, but who cares   (theglobeandmail.com) divider line 31
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2013-07-21 11:39:09 PM  
*crickets*
 
2013-07-21 11:41:32 PM  
meh, eh?
 
2013-07-21 11:46:17 PM  
Is this deliberate and most importantly, should I care?
 
2013-07-22 12:07:25 AM  
thinly veiled Conservative propaganda.

Was that veiled? I never noticed.
 
2013-07-22 12:12:53 AM  
Canadas action plan: Now in its umpteeth year. What was it about again? Oh right. Something, something Bush jr crashing the economy and affecting Canada slightly.

/Yea when there are now ads calling it bullshiat for its never ending blablayadayada, its time to stop it.
//theres this comic image of Canada as a cow. The west feeds it. The east coast shovels it. Harper and his cronies engorge on it.
 
2013-07-22 12:18:57 AM  
Maybe it's just my jaded viewpoint, but if I see any political ad urging me to visit a website, I will make it a point to avoid that site.

/not Canadian
//it's like visiting the government websites about the effects of taking illegal drugs.  They'll present their viewpoint, and censor everything else.
///They usually provide plenty of links to other websites that parrot their views, so I guess they have that going for them.
//// Slashies!
 
2013-07-22 12:35:27 AM  
leftisminfilm.files.wordpress.com

from one of my favorite movies
 
2013-07-22 12:55:40 AM  
It's hard to get excited about a plan that's legally required to be translated into French.
 
2013-07-22 01:02:13 AM  
I know it was said upthread, but yeah, I'm not seeing the 'veiled' part.

Can't wait until 2015. If nothing else, to see what *new* scummy advertising the Tories come up with.
 
2013-07-22 01:31:28 AM  
Eau l'humanité
 
2013-07-22 01:31:49 AM  
images1.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2013-07-22 01:51:16 AM  
*scans headline*

............

thesisquest.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-07-22 02:02:33 AM  
Harris-Decima poll

www.thevervoid.com

They start every poll with: "Help us. Help us please!"
 
2013-07-22 03:49:31 AM  
We're sorry
 
2013-07-22 04:55:08 AM  
They cut the GST by 2%.
 
2013-07-22 04:58:43 AM  
subtle but brilliant subby. refined golf clap.
 
2013-07-22 06:07:32 AM  
Total opposite effect on me. The use of taxpayer dollars to fund partisan advertising has strengthened my resolve to vote for whoever is most likely to defeat my Conservative Member of Parliament in 2015.
 
2013-07-22 06:07:41 AM  
No one likes or trusts our asshole PM.
 
2013-07-22 08:56:19 AM  

CokeBear: Total opposite effect on me. The use of taxpayer dollars to fund partisan advertising has strengthened my resolve to vote for whoever is most likely to defeat my Conservative Member of Parliament in 2015.


My MP is John Baird, so I feel your pain.
 
2013-07-22 09:33:00 AM  

CokeBear: Total opposite effect on me. The use of taxpayer dollars to fund partisan advertising has strengthened my resolve to vote for whoever is most likely to defeat my Conservative Member of Parliament in 2015.


So much this.  Thanks for wasting my tax dollars on completely uninformative BS.

/The adds virtually say "Vote for a strong economy. Vote big "C".  I'm sick of seeing it ALL THE FARKING TIME, ALL FARKING YEAR, FOR YEARS ON END!!!
 
2013-07-22 09:56:52 AM  

D135: CokeBear: Total opposite effect on me. The use of taxpayer dollars to fund partisan advertising has strengthened my resolve to vote for whoever is most likely to defeat my Conservative Member of Parliament in 2015.

So much this.  Thanks for wasting my tax dollars on completely uninformative BS.

/The adds virtually say "Vote for a strong economy. Vote big "C".  I'm sick of seeing it ALL THE FARKING TIME, ALL FARKING YEAR, FOR YEARS ON END!!!


Worse is the economy is strong mostly because of things the Liberals did when in power, Chretien had a very good finance minister, and he actually removed some of the precautions they had put in place before the financial crisis (Martin left office with a Budget Surplus). But the adds do not say that now do they.
 
2013-07-22 10:15:32 AM  

God Is My Co-Pirate: CokeBear: Total opposite effect on me. The use of taxpayer dollars to fund partisan advertising has strengthened my resolve to vote for whoever is most likely to defeat my Conservative Member of Parliament in 2015.

My MP is John Baird, so I feel your pain.


Try Rona farking Ambrose. And she was elected with almost 70% of the riding's votes.
 
2013-07-22 10:16:42 AM  

God Is My Co-Pirate: CokeBear: Total opposite effect on me. The use of taxpayer dollars to fund partisan advertising has strengthened my resolve to vote for whoever is most likely to defeat my Conservative Member of Parliament in 2015.

My MP is John Baird, so I feel your pain.


Oh God. He's been a horrible MPP and now MP for almost 20 years now. You have my sympathies...
 
2013-07-22 10:19:07 AM  

D135: CokeBear: Total opposite effect on me. The use of taxpayer dollars to fund partisan advertising has strengthened my resolve to vote for whoever is most likely to defeat my Conservative Member of Parliament in 2015.

So much this.  Thanks for wasting my tax dollars on completely uninformative BS.

/The adds virtually say "Vote for a strong economy. Vote big "C".  I'm sick of seeing it ALL THE FARKING TIME, ALL FARKING YEAR, FOR YEARS ON END!!!


It's worse tham that, most of the programs they are advertising have shut down. They are litterally advertising that they did something, while completely undermining it (the forgien worker program vs training grants)
 
2013-07-22 10:27:15 AM  

God Is My Co-Pirate: CokeBear: Total opposite effect on me. The use of taxpayer dollars to fund partisan advertising has strengthened my resolve to vote for whoever is most likely to defeat my Conservative Member of Parliament in 2015.

My MP is John Baird, so I feel your pain.


Try looking at it from a different perspective - it could be Pierre Poillievre. If there's someone out there with a more punchable face and smarmy attitude, I don't want to know. At least Baird has shown to have a little sense of humour on occasion.
 
2013-07-22 12:05:32 PM  

tiiger: They cut the GST by 2%.


So what?

They would have done better to cut personal income taxes.  Cutting a consumption tax actually causes the government to lose out twice.  If they had cut income taxes then they would have given consumers more disposable income which they could spend on things, eventually paying the GST and then the goverment would get some of that money back while stiumlating the economy.

And in cutting the GST they didn't really do anything to help the lower class because under a certain income level you got a GST rebate cheque 4 times a year.  So the poor people were no farther ahead while the rich got a sweet discount on their latest luxury car.

As for my opinion on the actual government itself?   Well I have no officially stated position...of course
 
2013-07-22 12:30:53 PM  

God Is My Co-Pirate: CokeBear: Total opposite effect on me. The use of taxpayer dollars to fund partisan advertising has strengthened my resolve to vote for whoever is most likely to defeat my Conservative Member of Parliament in 2015.

My MP is John Baird, so I feel your pain.


Baird isn't so bad. He's a gay rights man and voted no on the abortion motion.   But that Jerusalem screw up was very dumb,
 
2013-07-22 01:08:02 PM  
The Canada Jobs Grant ads are even worse.  There is tiny text at the bottom of the screen that reads "subject to Parliamentary approval" because this program does not actually exist.  Yep, PM Sweatervest is breaking new ground in political disingenuous - taking credit for a program that does not actually exist.  I work in adult retraining, and if the Feds do get this program through, it will be a disaster.  Each province currently runs their own adult retraining programs, as each province has different needs and industries to cater to.  Harper's proposal will create a single program for the entire country, and offload the administration costs onto the provinces.  It will require the provinces to spend the transfer payments they currently get as part of the Labour Market Agreement on this program, which will effectively defund the majority of provincial programs.  I work in Ontario, and my agency is mostly funded out of LMA money - should the Feds get their way, I will be looking for a job soon, because my agency won't exist anymore.  Which would be pretty ironic after years of helping others find jobs.  And the Fed program still does nothing to fix the bottleneck in the apprenticeship system; for most trades, there are 10-12 applicants who have completed the classroom part of the training for each actual working apprentice opening.  So they system will be able to serve about 1/10th of the applicants.  Not to mention that adult literacy in general has been forced to focus so narrowly on employment goals (to keep government funding), that many learners with different needs are already being turned away, as the programs can only accommodate a very narrow subset of learners who meet the profile the government will fund.  So if you have more basic needs, tough luck, because the government has officially given up on you.  Harper treats Canadians as human resources and interchangeable parts, not as citizens.  He is surrounded by corrupt and greedy idiots.  And most of the alternatives are not much better.  Not sure how citizens can wrest control of their countries back from the Neo-Liberals (which is neither), but it is well past time to start trying.
 
2013-07-22 01:46:39 PM  

ontariolightning: God Is My Co-Pirate: CokeBear: Total opposite effect on me. The use of taxpayer dollars to fund partisan advertising has strengthened my resolve to vote for whoever is most likely to defeat my Conservative Member of Parliament in 2015.

My MP is John Baird, so I feel your pain.

Baird isn't so bad. He's a gay rights man and voted no on the abortion motion.   But that Jerusalem screw up was very dumb,


Baird got $1 million in federal grant money for a friend of his who didn't deserve it, and he was the one who authorized Tony Clement's $50 million gazebo fund. He's pretty bad.
 
2013-07-22 02:00:54 PM  

ontariolightning: God Is My Co-Pirate: CokeBear: Total opposite effect on me. The use of taxpayer dollars to fund partisan advertising has strengthened my resolve to vote for whoever is most likely to defeat my Conservative Member of Parliament in 2015.

My MP is John Baird, so I feel your pain.

Baird isn't so bad. He's a gay rights man and voted no on the abortion motion.   But that Jerusalem screw up was very dumb,


FTFY
 
2013-07-22 11:05:56 PM  
Whargarble! Harper bad, Big Red good!
 
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