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(NewsBusters)   MSNBC's Melissa Harris-Perry says small government caused Detroit to fail. That's the joke   (newsbusters.org) divider line 195
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2013-07-21 07:42:38 PM
A government of just the correct size to fit in the pockets of the corrupt caused Detroit to fail.
 
2013-07-21 08:11:25 PM
The corrupt, ignorant, stupid, Democratic, racist city council and leadership caused Det to fail.

/It's hard in the D.
 
2013-07-21 08:14:34 PM
FTFA: On this topic, it would appear, Harris-Perry is either not being honest or is not properly informed of the legacy burdens Detroit's city government must to shoulder.

Harris-Perry isn't honest about a lot her reporting. Ric Romero reporting.
 
2013-07-21 08:28:02 PM
Newsbusters.

That's the joke.
 
2013-07-21 08:34:59 PM

DarwiOdrade: Newsbusters.

That's the joke.


At least Subby got the Dumbass tag part right.

I'm assuming Subby is talking about the collective insolvent brain trust over at NB and not MHP there.
 
2013-07-21 08:49:46 PM
0k, it's settled. Democrats bankrupt a city or two. Republicans bankrupt a nation. Of course they blow a few others up needlessly in the process so they have that going for them
 
2013-07-21 08:57:06 PM
Detroit would have been better off if we let the automotive industry fail.

/what Republitards actually believe.
 
2013-07-21 09:20:06 PM
Democrats refused to properly investigate JFK's assassination because first and foremost, it uncovered the insane corruption and power hunger of LBJ, even though the cabal behind the scenes which he protected was mostly right wing.
It's the same here - corrupt Democrats running a city for 50 years, taking payoffs to sign deals with whoever has money, regardless of party affiliation. Kwame Kilpatrick goes to jail this year on 22 corruption and racketeering charges and Democrats act like they're just pissed he got caught, because he might just bring down the whole machine with him.
 
2013-07-21 09:23:11 PM

Triumph: Democrats refused to properly investigate JFK's assassination...


This is where I, and everyone else, stopped reading
 
2013-07-21 09:42:20 PM

Lionel Mandrake: Triumph: Democrats refused to properly investigate JFK's assassination...

This is where I, and everyone else other Democrat in denial, stopped reading.


Hale Boggs and JFK Jr. would defend me, but whoops - plane crashes.
It's been 50 years - release ALL the farking records. At least do the bare minimum and fight for that.
 
2013-07-21 09:47:47 PM
Detroit failed because it came under one party rule.

The South is going through this, too. The elections of filibuster-proof Republican majorities means that bills that the opposition would normally be able to stop because they are insane end up getting passed.

Without a healthy opposition the morans and the extremists come out of the woodwork and fark everything up.

There needs to be balance.
 
2013-07-21 09:54:04 PM

Triumph: Lionel Mandrake: Triumph: Democrats refused to properly investigate JFK's assassination...

This is where I, and everyone else other Democrat in denial, stopped reading.

Hale Boggs and JFK Jr. would defend me, but whoops - plane crashes.
It's been 50 years - release ALL the farking records. At least do the bare minimum and fight for that.


Yes...yes, of course...that should be done...that should happen...we should get....right...on that

i159.photobucket.com
 
2013-07-21 10:02:18 PM
Isnt it practicaly impossible for a 700K and shrinking population to pay for a city built by and for a 1.2 million population? Surely economic collapse is simply guaranteed regardless of governance?
 
2013-07-21 10:03:27 PM

gaspode: Isnt it practicaly impossible for a 700K and shrinking population to pay for a city built by and for a 1.2 million population? Surely economic collapse is simply guaranteed regardless of governance?


Are you implying that the two of them are not related to each other?
 
2013-07-21 10:04:24 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: The corrupt, ignorant, stupid, Democratic, racist city council and leadership caused Det to fail.

/It's hard in the D It's so cold in the D.




That is what you meant.
/you're correct on all other counts
 
2013-07-21 10:05:07 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: The corrupt, ignorant, stupid, Democratic, racist city council and leadership caused Det to fail.

/It's hard in the D.


You are just so PRECIOUS!
 
2013-07-21 10:09:30 PM
Detroit went downhill because they lost manufacturing jobs. The same thing has happened elsewhere in the US, like in textiles and electronics manufacturing, just not as severely as in Detroit. Fortunately for the US as a whole, we gained other jobs in other fields in other parts of the country. So we should be looking out for our fellow countrymen and trying to cushion the economic fall in places like Detroit as much as possible.
 
2013-07-21 10:12:30 PM

Befuddled: Detroit went downhill because they lost manufacturing jobs. The same thing has happened elsewhere in the US, like in textiles and electronics manufacturing, just not as severely as in Detroit. Fortunately for the US as a whole, we gained other jobs in other fields in other parts of the country. So we should be looking out for our fellow countrymen and trying to cushion the economic fall in places like Detroit as much as possible.


Detroit started down hill before the jobs were lost.

It started in 1967 after a race riot.

White Flight pretty much took the tax base out of the city to the suburbs.
 
2013-07-21 10:14:26 PM
Was she wearing tampon earrings or did she just have one stuck in each ear?
 
2013-07-21 10:17:38 PM
the tampons being so close to her head are apparently soaking up her grey matter.
 
2013-07-21 10:18:04 PM

Triumph: Lionel Mandrake: Triumph: Democrats refused to properly investigate JFK's assassination...

This is where I, and everyone else other Democrat in denial, stopped reading.

Hale Boggs and JFK Jr. would defend me, but whoops - plane crashes.
It's been 50 years - release ALL the farking records. At least do the bare minimum and fight for that.


http://youtu.be/jE8HAAhVtos
 
2013-07-21 10:22:03 PM
LIBERAL BLACK DEMONCRAT MAYORS caused Detroit rot fail with a lot of help from Unions.
 
2013-07-21 10:23:25 PM
And BOB is doing the same thing to the country.
 
2013-07-21 10:26:28 PM
cman:
Detroit started down hill before the jobs were lost.

It started in 1967 after a race riot.

White Flight pretty much took the tax base out of the city to the suburbs.


Actually, Detroit lost 134,000 jobs in between 1947 and 1963.  The job losses were well underway by 1967.
 
2013-07-21 10:26:47 PM
Not allowing taxes to "flee" to the suburbs would have "saved" Detroit and many other cities. Fragmenting metropolitan areas makes for poor governance for many reasons. Just to throw a bone to the Repubs it would also have meant Detroit would not have been under one part rule for the last 50 years.
 
2013-07-21 10:28:11 PM
Really though, it was Democratic big-government.
 
2013-07-21 10:30:17 PM

Bllasae: Really though, it was Democratic big-government.


No.

But whatever.
 
2013-07-21 10:32:11 PM

JasonOfOrillia: cman:
Detroit started down hill before the jobs were lost.

It started in 1967 after a race riot.

White Flight pretty much took the tax base out of the city to the suburbs.

Actually, Detroit lost 134,000 jobs in between 1947 and 1963.  The job losses were well underway by 1967.


Still shows my point that Detroit was dying prior to the pullout of the auto makers
 
2013-07-21 10:34:25 PM
Somoilia, a failed communist state falls into civil war, and liberals claim it's libertarian dream state.

Detroit, a city that's been run by democrats for 50 years, is a general shiat hole that's bankrupt and liberals claim it's because of conservatives.
 
2013-07-21 10:34:46 PM

eiger: Not allowing taxes to "flee" to the suburbs would have "saved" Detroit and many other cities. Fragmenting metropolitan areas makes for poor governance for many reasons. Just to throw a bone to the Repubs it would also have meant Detroit would not have been under one part rule for the last 50 years.


and how exactly would you have stopped it?  Good luck trying to get people to live in inner-Detroit when suburbs, lawns., low crime, and good schools are a viable alternative option
 
2013-07-21 10:36:09 PM

cman: JasonOfOrillia: cman:
Detroit started down hill before the jobs were lost.

It started in 1967 after a race riot.

White Flight pretty much took the tax base out of the city to the suburbs.

Actually, Detroit lost 134,000 jobs in between 1947 and 1963.  The job losses were well underway by 1967.

Still shows my point that Detroit was dying prior to the pullout of the auto makers


That is true.  The declines have been happening for the better part of a century.
 
2013-07-21 10:36:47 PM

Brick-House: LIBERAL BLACK DEMONCRAT MAYORS caused Detroit rot fail with a lot of help from Unions.


*changes BH's farkie from the generic "dumbass troll" to "rot fail"*

Just because.
 
2013-07-21 10:37:57 PM

Pumpernickel bread: eiger: Not allowing taxes to "flee" to the suburbs would have "saved" Detroit and many other cities. Fragmenting metropolitan areas makes for poor governance for many reasons. Just to throw a bone to the Repubs it would also have meant Detroit would not have been under one part rule for the last 50 years.

and how exactly would you have stopped it?  Good luck trying to get people to live in inner-Detroit when suburbs, lawns., low crime, and good schools are a viable alternative option


I think you missed eiger's point: the people are free to flee... they are expected to leave their money behind tho....
 
2013-07-21 10:38:04 PM

Pumpernickel bread: eiger: Not allowing taxes to "flee" to the suburbs would have "saved" Detroit and many other cities. Fragmenting metropolitan areas makes for poor governance for many reasons. Just to throw a bone to the Repubs it would also have meant Detroit would not have been under one part rule for the last 50 years.

and how exactly would you have stopped it?  Good luck trying to get people to live in inner-Detroit when suburbs, lawns., low crime, and good schools are a viable alternative option


Silly liberal... Tax cuts! Tax cuts would have stopped it. Haven't you learned anything.
 
2013-07-21 10:40:50 PM
I thought it was the collapse of the American automotive industry and the rampant outsourcing of what was left that killed Detroit.
 
2013-07-21 10:40:52 PM
Strange-you'ds expect a woman who wears tampon earrings as a protest to have a better grasp of things...

static01.mediaite.com
 
2013-07-21 10:41:44 PM
It's so cold in the D.

/that scene never stops being funny
 
2013-07-21 10:47:07 PM
Detroit's economic decline could have been averted if only... taxes were higher?  ... it were illegal to relocate to better-run areas?

Someone needs to make an "MSNBC panelists" version of this:

s12.postimg.org
 
2013-07-21 10:47:22 PM

eiger: Not allowing taxes to "flee" to the suburbs would have "saved" Detroit and many other cities. Fragmenting metropolitan areas makes for poor governance for many reasons. Just to throw a bone to the Repubs it would also have meant Detroit would not have been under one part rule for the last 50 years.


That falls on the Detroit Police and all of those white voters.

White flight happened because the black population wouldn't take the bullshiat anymore.

Black people were up against the wall. What else were they gonna do?
 
2013-07-21 10:48:17 PM

Pumpernickel bread: eiger: Not allowing taxes to "flee" to the suburbs would have "saved" Detroit and many other cities. Fragmenting metropolitan areas makes for poor governance for many reasons. Just to throw a bone to the Repubs it would also have meant Detroit would not have been under one part rule for the last 50 years.

and how exactly would you have stopped it?  Good luck trying to get people to live in inner-Detroit when suburbs, lawns., low crime, and good schools are a viable alternative option


Maybe not stop it but a city government working for the people could've helped. Tax revenue went down, but it was people like Coleman Young and his city council cronies -- and later Kwame Kilpatrick -- that helped ensure Detroit's downward spiral. Why live in the city where your tax dollars pay for strippers at the mayor's mansion when you can live in the suburbs and have that money spent on schools, fire departments and cops?
 
2013-07-21 10:49:03 PM
Political discourse for today's world.  Someone no one ever heard of writing for a publication no one reads all in a tizzy about someone no one ever heard of who spoke on a show no one watches.  A giant perpetual motion machine that feeds on itself.
 
2013-07-21 10:49:33 PM
party of facts strikes again
 
2013-07-21 10:49:49 PM
No political ideology caused Detroit to fail. Their entire economy was built around a single industry, which was outsourced or run out of business. When that happened, they lost their tax base and collapsed. The end.
 
2013-07-21 10:51:50 PM
If regulations and progressive liberalism are what caused Detroit to fail, how come it hasn't caused the rest of the free world to fail, which are way further left than even the most pinko American cities?
 
2013-07-21 10:52:56 PM

cman: Black people were up against the wall. What else were they gonna do?


Not riot, kill, and drive the tax base away?
 
2013-07-21 10:54:27 PM

shower_in_my_socks: No political ideology caused Detroit to fail. Their entire economy was built around a single industry, which was outsourced or run out of business. When that happened, they lost their tax base and collapsed. The end.


This.  Any attempt to make what happened on Detroit an example of "failed liberalism" is just bullshiat.  It's just that simple.
 
2013-07-21 10:54:27 PM
Liberalism caused Detroit to fail.
The size of the government just determined how long it would take to fail.
 
2013-07-21 10:54:36 PM

Frank N Stein: cman: Black people were up against the wall. What else were they gonna do?

Not riot, kill, and drive the tax base away?


I am quite sure that you would have the discipline to not riot after getting beaten badly for the sole reason of the color of your skin
 
2013-07-21 10:55:03 PM
OK, so the real reason why Detroit has declined so much is because the United States has transitioned from a manufacturing economy to a service based economy, which is inevitable in any country after the rise of a middle class.  And there is no reason for Detroit to exist apart from being a manufacturing center.

Anyone who says otherwise is trying to lie to you for political purposes.
 
2013-07-21 10:58:01 PM
Whenever someone tells you that a center-right country like the US is "too liberal" and their liberalism is causing things to fail, point to A) the dozen-plus much more liberal countries that are somehow still standing and are ahead of America in most areas like education, quality of life, life expectancy, lower homicide rates, etc., and B) point to the entire American South as an example of what true failure as the result of political ideology looks like.
 
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