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(The Atlantic)   Junk food may help end obesity? Hang on, I'll grab the popcorn   (m.theatlantic.com) divider line 26
    More: Interesting, Michael Pollan, health foods, soy milk, Mark Bittman, carbs, legumes, mile high, Ron Rosenbaum  
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2013-07-21 03:20:59 PM  
I think everyone over at the Atlantic is taking the piss this week.
 
2013-07-21 03:36:38 PM  
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I done et 46 packs o skittles. They be stuck in my neck.
 
2013-07-21 04:11:11 PM  
 
2013-07-21 04:40:49 PM  
Jesus this article goes on for f*cking ever...
 
2013-07-21 05:40:11 PM  

Shostie: Jesus this article goes on for f*cking ever...


Yeah, that might be the first tl;dr for me.  I usually pride myself on reading articles and books end to end, but he just kept talking about grocery shopping at health food stores.
 
2013-07-21 05:53:15 PM  
FTFA:" But all of these "problem carbs" charge into the bloodstream as glucose in minutes, providing an energy rush, commonly followed by an energy crash that can lead to a surge in appetite. "

Not to mention that the body begins storing it all as fat when that blood sugar spike occurs.
 
2013-07-21 06:02:21 PM  
We can keep pushing our health-care system to provide more incentives and support to the obese for losing weight by making small, painless, but helpful changes in their behavior, such as switching from Whoppers to turkey burgers, from Egg McMuffins to Egg White Delights, or from blueberry crisp to fruit-and-yogurt parfaits.

Yeah, that's not going to happen.  See subsidies, corn.
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2013-07-21 06:16:31 PM  

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I done et 46 packs o skittles. They be stuck in my neck.


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2013-07-21 06:20:39 PM  
Article is tl;dr, but what I did read makes a good point.

I have friends who are absolutely clueless when it comes to health.  They believe, from the bottom of their hearts, that "processing" and "artificial ingredients" are one and only thing wrong about our diet.  As long as the food is "natural" and/or "vegan" it's fine to eat all the time.  They go on and on about GMO and processed foods and veganism, but then they gorge themselves with cupcakes made with "non-processed" sugar and coconut oil, and honestly believe that the "natural" sugar makes it a healthy diet food.  "It's still farking loaded with calories and has very little nutritional value" falls on deaf ears.

I abstain from sugary foods for about 2/3 of the year, and one time a friend got upset when I wouldn't eat strawberries.  I was like, "What part of 'I'm abstaining from sugary foods' don't you understand?' and she wailed, "But strawberries are natural!"  Natural and loaded with sugar.  Again, deaf ears.

Don't even get me started on people who "detox".
 
2013-07-21 06:27:39 PM  

aerojockey: "But strawberries are natural!"


Drink up, Socrates. It's "all-natural."
 
2013-07-21 06:30:51 PM  

aerojockey: Don't even get me started on people who "detox".


People who detox and cleanse get me all stabby. Just eat a decent diet and your body will take care of the rest. It's basically a way of taking control of the situation, psychologically, mixed with a healthy dose of "if it hurts, it must be good". Feeling like shiat and barfing all the time does not mean your green-algae-smoothie is "cleansing" you, it means you're poisoning yourself and your body is reacting to it.
 
2013-07-21 07:07:49 PM  
Got a chance to read this in my print subscription.  It really gave me a lot to think about.  However, I'll prefer exercising as well to drop the pounds, and I'll still avoid fast food.
 
2013-07-21 07:19:24 PM  
I'll probably have to read this tome at work tomorrow, when I've got nothin better to do :)
 
2013-07-21 07:23:49 PM  

Hebalo: FTFA:" But all of these "problem carbs" charge into the bloodstream as glucose in minutes, providing an energy rush, commonly followed by an energy crash that can lead to a surge in appetite. "

Not to mention that the body begins storing it all as fat when that blood sugar spike occurs.


A lot of people still don't understand that, so the myth that dietary fat leads to obesity persists.
 
2013-07-21 07:40:59 PM  

kg2095: Hebalo: FTFA:" But all of these "problem carbs" charge into the bloodstream as glucose in minutes, providing an energy rush, commonly followed by an energy crash that can lead to a surge in appetite. "

Not to mention that the body begins storing it all as fat when that blood sugar spike occurs.

A lot of people still don't understand that, so the myth that dietary fat leads to obesity persists.


Soooo.....you think you can't get fat if you eat a lot of fat in your foods?

Ooohhhh....kay.
 
2013-07-21 09:02:34 PM  
FTFA: " worst product failure of all time, eclipsing ... the McAfrica (don't ask). "

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Meh.  its a burger.

Sorta sounds like that big-mac-from the-dollar-menu scam you can do by ordering a double cheeseburger, and asking for lettuce, onion, pickle, and 'special sauce' as toppings.

/They don't have dollar menus anymore, do they.  Its been a while since I've been
//'exotic African sauce' is supposedly Harrisa, a hot chili sort
 
2013-07-21 09:31:43 PM  

aerojockey: Article is tl;dr, but what I did read makes a good point.

I have friends who are absolutely clueless when it comes to health.  They believe, from the bottom of their hearts, that "processing" and "artificial ingredients" are one and only thing wrong about our diet.  As long as the food is "natural" and/or "vegan" it's fine to eat all the time.  They go on and on about GMO and processed foods and veganism, but then they gorge themselves with cupcakes made with "non-processed" sugar and coconut oil, and honestly believe that the "natural" sugar makes it a healthy diet food.  "It's still farking loaded with calories and has very little nutritional value" falls on deaf ears.

I abstain from sugary foods for about 2/3 of the year, and one time a friend got upset when I wouldn't eat strawberries.  I was like, "What part of 'I'm abstaining from sugary foods' don't you understand?' and she wailed, "But strawberries are natural!"  Natural and loaded with sugar.  Again, deaf ears.

Don't even get me started on people who "detox".


Nothing wrong with coconut oil, as long as it's extra virgin (like olive) It's a good source of saturated fat and  Perhaps you meant something else, like agave nectar, as I would imagine the people you're talking about would use to substitute as a sweetener.

/not a vegan, but pro-organic and anti-processed/GMO "food"
 
2013-07-21 09:41:08 PM  

ghare: kg2095: Hebalo: FTFA:" But all of these "problem carbs" charge into the bloodstream as glucose in minutes, providing an energy rush, commonly followed by an energy crash that can lead to a surge in appetite. "

Not to mention that the body begins storing it all as fat when that blood sugar spike occurs.

A lot of people still don't understand that, so the myth that dietary fat leads to obesity persists.

Soooo.....you think you can't get fat if you eat a lot of fat in your foods?

Ooohhhh....kay.


It's not nearly as simple as that, but the myth that eating fatty foods makes you fat is just that. It's about as false as the idea that eating foods high in cholesterol will raise your dietary cholesterol.
 
2013-07-21 09:50:13 PM  

aerojockey: Article is tl;dr, but what I did read makes a good point.

I have friends who are absolutely clueless when it comes to health.  They believe, from the bottom of their hearts, that "processing" and "artificial ingredients" are one and only thing wrong about our diet.  As long as the food is "natural" and/or "vegan" it's fine to eat all the time.  They go on and on about GMO and processed foods and veganism, but then they gorge themselves with cupcakes made with "non-processed" sugar and coconut oil, and honestly believe that the "natural" sugar makes it a healthy diet food.  "It's still farking loaded with calories and has very little nutritional value" falls on deaf ears.

I abstain from sugary foods for about 2/3 of the year, and one time a friend got upset when I wouldn't eat strawberries.  I was like, "What part of 'I'm abstaining from sugary foods' don't you understand?' and she wailed, "But strawberries are natural!"  Natural and loaded with sugar.  Again, deaf ears.

Don't even get me started on people who "detox".


You people just don't get it.  Fructose in HFCS = poison that makes you fat.  A fructose laden strawberry = health food.
 
2013-07-21 10:24:00 PM  
Why not just do 4,000 calories a day of hard labour like the Mennonites do. Then you can eat whatever you want.

/nummy cakes in the Edna Staebler cookbooks
 
2013-07-21 11:10:04 PM  

star_topology: Nothing wrong with coconut oil, as long as it's extra virgin (like olive) It's a good source of saturated fat and Perhaps you meant something else, like agave nectar, as I would imagine the people you're talking about would use to substitute as a sweetener.

/not a vegan, but pro-organic and anti-processed/GMO "food"


Fine with me, just don't confuse "organic" with "healthy".  There is nothing wrong with coconut oil or unprocessed sugar.  Coconut oil might be better for you than butter, but it's still saturated fat, still high in calories, and it does not make a cupcake healthy.  Some people I know think it does.

Conversely, some GMO food could potentially end up being healthier than any "natural" food.  Dismissing GMO per se is kind of dumb, it should be heavily regulated to prevent abuse and unintended consequences, but there are good things that can come out of it.
 
2013-07-22 12:37:44 AM  

theorellior: aerojockey: Don't even get me started on people who "detox".

People who detox and cleanse get me all stabby. Just eat a decent diet and your body will take care of the rest. It's basically a way of taking control of the situation, psychologically, mixed with a healthy dose of "if it hurts, it must be good". Feeling like shiat and barfing all the time does not mean your green-algae-smoothie is "cleansing" you, it means you're poisoning yourself and your body is reacting to it.


What if someone parties to much and wants to do a quick flush?
 
2013-07-22 12:41:37 AM  
Oh yeah, I like popcorn. There was a time you could pick it up from the supermarket in bags the size of styrofoam peanuts.
always gotta kick that I was allowed to eat that for breakfast lunch and dinner for two or three days until I realized I was starving myself.
now popcorn with butter that's a different story. cheese mmmm.
/wife just asked If I want popcorn... no, skin gets stuck in my teeth.
//fingers not fat
///beer belly fat
 
2013-07-22 01:31:23 AM  

aerojockey: Article is tl;dr, but what I did read makes a good point.

I have friends who are absolutely clueless when it comes to health.  They believe, from the bottom of their hearts, that "processing" and "artificial ingredients" are one and only thing wrong about our diet.  As long as the food is "natural" and/or "vegan" it's fine to eat all the time.  They go on and on about GMO and processed foods and veganism, but then they gorge themselves with cupcakes made with "non-processed" sugar and coconut oil, and honestly believe that the "natural" sugar makes it a healthy diet food.  "It's still farking loaded with calories and has very little nutritional value" falls on deaf ears.

I abstain from sugary foods for about 2/3 of the year, and one time a friend got upset when I wouldn't eat strawberries.  I was like, "What part of 'I'm abstaining from sugary foods' don't you understand?' and she wailed, "But strawberries are natural!"  Natural and loaded with sugar.  Again, deaf ears.

Don't even get me started on people who "detox".


I like your spirit, but berries have a pretty good fiber/sugar ratio and are hardly something to fear.
 
2013-07-22 05:25:29 AM  

aerojockey: Article is tl;dr, but what I did read makes a good point.

I have friends who are absolutely clueless when it comes to health.  They believe, from the bottom of their hearts, that "processing" and "artificial ingredients" are one and only thing wrong about our diet.  As long as the food is "natural" and/or "vegan" it's fine to eat all the time.  They go on and on about GMO and processed foods and veganism, but then they gorge themselves with cupcakes made with "non-processed" sugar and coconut oil, and honestly believe that the "natural" sugar makes it a healthy diet food.  "It's still farking loaded with calories and has very little nutritional value" falls on deaf ears.

I abstain from sugary foods for about 2/3 of the year, and one time a friend got upset when I wouldn't eat strawberries.  I was like, "What part of 'I'm abstaining from sugary foods' don't you understand?' and she wailed, "But strawberries are natural!"  Natural and loaded with sugar.  Again, deaf ears.

Don't even get me started on people who "detox".


I have a friend with the same issues. 
She's now terribly obese,high blood pressure, diabetic, etc...
She doesn't understand why she's in such sad shape. "But I eat all the right food!"
She's also puzzled why I've been a successful dieter even though I treat myself to McDonalds every day. Hey, a single cheeseburger has only 290 calories. Makes for a nice quick lunch.
 
2013-07-22 11:16:11 AM  

Hebalo: It's about as false as the idea that eating foods high in cholesterol will raise your dietary cholesterol.


Hopefully it is as false as the idea that eating foods high  in cholesterol will raise your serum cholesterol.
 
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