MrHappyRotter: A lot of accused "trolling" is very clearly sarcasm, satire and mockery that gets incorrectly interpreted by the barely literate masses, whose parents and low grading standards in schools and colleges have convinced them that they're veritable Einsteins. And, let's face it, this whole "online thing" is still relatively new to a lot of people, so having only recently become familiar with the concept of trolls and trolling, they see trolls and trolling in everything.
Mr Rogers is aroused: TuteTibiImperes: I agree with the article in that it's hard to call a published article, magazine cover, or headline as trolling. Provocative, perhaps, but there's nothing wrong with ideas that go against the established view if you can support them, and headlines/covers are meant to get your attention as well as occasionally to get publicity - catching you off guard can be a worthwhile goal.In terms of internet forums it gets a bit dicier. Arguing a position isn't trolling as long as you can back it up. shiatting all over a thread with personal attacks, opinions masked as facts, and comments specifically designed to raise the ire of other participants without actually adding anything worthwhile to the discussion is trolling.I suppose there's also a third category of 'prank trolls', things that don't advance the discussion but are meant in fun for the enjoyment of all (except for perhaps the target).i have been called a troll almost every day. I'm on my second alt. saying someone with a unorthodox view on a subject is a troll is just the new, lazy, ad hominem attack. It's the very definition of ad hominem actually. The opposing viewpoint holder jumps right to 'insulting' the other side of the argument by calling them a troll.I have never sought to 'troll' anyone. Yet I'm supposedly the poster child. Truth is- I was neglected thoroughly as a crotchfruit, molested and abused. I have a lot of hate in me. I also have some pretty interesting lenses in which i see the world. I didn't ask to be so abnormal in my life path. It was a gift though. I dont get emotionally attached to much. I can look at tragedy and make jokes, and ask tough honest questions. That makes me logical, not a troll. The idea of using an ad hominem attack on all that oppose us is a slippery slope that won't end well for civilization.
HairBolus: // is calling Limbaugh's behavior "post-modern trolling" and attempt to troll those who claim to understand postmodernism?
Rapmaster2000: This guy sounds like a circumcised, breastfeeding, tattooed hipster. I almost spilled my Macallan 18 and Mountain Dew after reading this tripe.
RogermcAllen: Also, FTA:"Originally, it was, like, racist Reddit kids going into <a data-cke-saved-href="http://www.reddit.com/r/blackgirls">r/blackgirls - that was old-school trolling "If you think that the original internet trolling occurred on Reddit, you need your license to write stories about the internet revoked.
HairBolus: I hold that trolling is attention seeking by being deliberately annoying (or annoyingly stupid) to the point that some people feel they have to respond.
worlddan: "I think that it started with a pretty clear definition - which is somebody who goes into a place that shares a particular ideology and says something they don't believe just to get a reaction,"Yep. And this is still the proper definition.
spamdog: I've always understood it as being a joke for insiders in an online community. It's meant to get a reaction from the outsiders who aren't in on the joke.Of course, the last 5 years or so has seen a rapid expansion on many online communities, where a coherent sense of community has subsequently been lost. So that's why we have this retarded broad definition of trolling now.People who say they get called trolls because they are "too logical" or whatever, I suspect you are just assholes. I've seen a lot of people claim the high ground of rationality in online arguments, but in reality they dismiss opponents arguments for emotional reasons, or just refuse to recognize any kind of emotional dimension to the argument at all. And they thrive because a lot of the time, people who understand the issue well just don't want to argue with another bullheaded cocksucker who is out to prove how smart he is.And count me in with the people saying that there's a lot of dicks out for any kind of attention, positive or negative, these days. Where the fark did these people come from? They all hang out in packs, too, to mutually cover their insecurities. They are all super insecure too - they are just posturing as being the untouchable "troll", but in reality they closely monitor anything said about them. And they can never let a slight against them go unanswered.
Mike_LowELL: But isn't that what happens when you convince people that literacy and education are good things? You sit around and read books all day, instead of getting things done or having sex. So now, when you disprove the entire history of liberal thought in 100 words or less, they claim you are "trolling". It is hilarious! And the entire body of modern government has been built on facts, evidence, logic, and reason! Is it any wonder society is so screwed up?
Land Ark: [nofishleft.files.wordpress.com image 220x299]Am I doing it right?
sparkeyjames: Trolling as a fine art was developed long before the world wide web or even usenet. Before that it was an expensive hobby which required access to a printing press and a method of distribution. The advent of the BBS and then Usenet just allowed it to flourish and tactics to be refined.The WWW just allowed anyone with a keyboard and an anonymous account to be a slavering idiot making it harder to filter out the real trolls.Accomplished trolls are few and far between and you usually cannot spot them right away. They usually grow their troll over a few comments instead of the rookie mistake of loading it all into one comment.
RogermcAllen: Also, FTA:"Originally, it was, like, racist Reddit kids going into <a data-cke-saved-href="http://www.reddit.com/r/blackgirls">r/blackgirls - that was old-school trolling "
MrHappyRotter: A lot of accused "trolling" is very clearly sarcasm, satire and mockery
Handsome B. Wonderful: Wait... they think trolling was invented on reddit?apparentl
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