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2013-07-21 02:27:24 PM
this is your Sunday night Newsroom thread

www.lolwut.com
 
2013-07-21 03:50:41 PM
Can it be a True Blood thread too?
 
2013-07-21 04:23:14 PM
Cool, last week was mostly setup for this season, I'm excited to get some meat tonight.
 
2013-07-21 04:56:52 PM

TuteTibiImperes: Cool, last week was mostly setup for this season, I'm excited to get some meat tonight.


I dunno. We did get that great line:

"The Taliban was offended."
 
2013-07-21 05:03:04 PM

WhoIsWillo: TuteTibiImperes: Cool, last week was mostly setup for this season, I'm excited to get some meat tonight.

I dunno. We did get that great line:

"The Taliban was offended."


I liked last weeks episode, it had some nice moments, and I was really happy to both the McKenzie McHale and Sloan Sabbith characters come off as more competent than they did last season.  Season premiers just always have a certain amount of set-up required, so now that the stage is set, I'm excited to see where they're going with it.
 
2013-07-21 05:18:08 PM
Downloaded Season 1 and gave it a try. Enjoyed it surprisingly, although I thought it had too much focus on the interpersonal drama going on then the workings of the newsroom. Still, head and shoulders above most of the rest of the garbage out there.
 
2013-07-21 09:41:43 PM
Last week's was pretty good, but I have a feeling I'm going to want to strangle drone douche by the end of the season.
 
2013-07-21 09:49:57 PM

WhoIsWillo: TuteTibiImperes: Cool, last week was mostly setup for this season, I'm excited to get some meat tonight.

I dunno. We did get that great line:

"The Taliban was offended."


My favorite was "Because we've never gone wrong getting our enemies wrong."

And just to be "that guy," I'll link to my review of last week's episode.  I love watching this show, even if it can be infuriating to think about afterwards.
 
2013-07-21 09:53:18 PM
Bill wrecking shiat.
 
2013-07-21 10:12:32 PM
Drones are a pussies way of fighting a war. We really need to return to the good ol days of carpet bombing.
 
2013-07-21 10:28:30 PM
Endevour thread.

static.guim.co.uk
 
2013-07-21 10:35:21 PM

Brick-House: Drones are a pussies way of fighting a war. We really need to return to the good ol days of carpet bombing.


Nah, we need to go back to doing things the biblical way and just slaughter all the women and children because God told us we should have their land.
 
2013-07-21 10:37:31 PM
Never got into this show, and judging by the number of posts I'm not alone.
 
2013-07-21 10:43:31 PM
"An American was on the kill list?"

Why is it OK for the U.S. government to kill non-Americans in other countries but not OK to kill Americans in other countries?
 
2013-07-21 10:43:33 PM

Kveld: Never got into this show, and judging by the number of posts I'm not alone.


It's kind of hard to comment in the middle of the show.  It's not really an OMG RED WEDDING! type of show.
 
2013-07-21 10:49:29 PM

rugman11: Kveld: Never got into this show, and judging by the number of posts I'm not alone.

It's kind of hard to comment in the middle of the show.  It's not really an OMG RED WEDDING! type of show.


Tell that to every Lost or Breaking Bad thread.
 
2013-07-21 10:55:04 PM

Incorrigible Astronaut: rugman11: Kveld: Never got into this show, and judging by the number of posts I'm not alone.

It's kind of hard to comment in the middle of the show.  It's not really an OMG RED WEDDING! type of show.

Tell that to every Lost or Breaking Bad thread.


Those commercial breaks tend to help a lot.  The Walking Dead threads tend to have a higher post rate during them.  I'm sorta recall Lost being the same way. Game of Thrones is a little different since there is a decent part of the audience that has a general idea of what's going to happen.
 
2013-07-21 10:57:54 PM
Part of me thinks that this season will cock up as much as last one's did. Oh good, we've got Occupy Wall Street for Sorkin to slobber over... but the writing was tighter last week's episode and the fact that this Genoa thing is the frame story for the whole season's got me interested.

Plus Sam Waterston!
 
2013-07-21 11:00:45 PM
On one hand, I feel bad for Neal and yet him getting shiat on by the entire newsroom over Occupy is pretty amusing.

Mawson of the Antarctic: Occupy Wall Street for Sorkin to slobber over


Eh, it's only Neal doing that and he mostly gave them advice last week about how they should have one message if they want to be taken seriously.
 
2013-07-21 11:12:42 PM

somedude210: On one hand, I feel bad for Neal and yet him getting shiat on by the entire newsroom over Occupy is pretty amusing.

Mawson of the Antarctic: Occupy Wall Street for Sorkin to slobber over

Eh, it's only Neal doing that and he mostly gave them advice last week about how they should have one message if they want to be taken seriously.


I've been reading episode summaries and Neal gets more involved... it's his Cybertroll plotline this season.
 
2013-07-21 11:54:29 PM

JasonOfOrillia: "An American was on the kill list?"

Why is it OK for the U.S. government to kill non-Americans in other countries but not OK to kill Americans in other countries?


I agree.  If an American allies themselves with terrorist organizations and flies over to join them, they're fair game.  Joining a foreign military legally renounces your citizenship, joining or aiding a terrorist group should do the same.

somedude210: On one hand, I feel bad for Neal and yet him getting shiat on by the entire newsroom over Occupy is pretty amusing.

Mawson of the Antarctic: Occupy Wall Street for Sorkin to slobber over

Eh, it's only Neal doing that and he mostly gave them advice last week about how they should have one message if they want to be taken seriously.


I like the OWS bits, and Neil's advice (hindsight 20/20 yadda yadda) is exactly what they should have done to make more of an impact.

The whole Georgia-dude execution bit fell flat though, it certainly didn't need as much time this episode as it got.

Even more so, the whole romance subplot thing going on needs to get tossed out of the window.  The best scenes are the ones where they're covering issues, arguing about how to frame things, digging up information, and dealing with the fallout.  I don't care if they all go home alone or all go to a communal loft to screw each other till the break of dawn - their personal lives aren't interesting television.
 
2013-07-22 12:22:35 AM

TuteTibiImperes: The whole Georgia-dude execution bit fell flat though, it certainly didn't need as much time this episode as it got.


I think it's more of Don's way of coping/dealing with the thing with Maggie.

TuteTibiImperes: Even more so, the whole romance subplot thing going on needs to get tossed out of the window.  The best scenes are the ones where they're covering issues, arguing about how to frame things, digging up information, and dealing with the fallout.  I don't care if they all go home alone or all go to a communal loft to screw each other till the break of dawn - their personal lives aren't interesting television.


it's a distraction from the "all news all the time" thing. You need a break to make the characters a bit more personal and, frankly, without interpersonal relationships both romantic and not, it becomes a very dull show very quickly: "oh hey, they solved another world's problem...whoopieeee.....*changes channel*"

human drama is what draws us, no matter how much we hate to admit it.

plus, there's always promise of a Maggie/Sloan/Sorority Girl threesome with Charlie watching and making hilarious drunk comments....

"GIVE IT TO HER, MONEY SKIRT!"
 
2013-07-22 12:24:29 AM

Mawson of the Antarctic: I've been reading episode summaries and Neal gets more involved... it's his Cybertroll plotline this season.


beats Bigfoot. He's still just getting his feet in the water, not going undercover for them. He's the naive one in the bunch. It's still amusing to see the newsroom shiat on him over it though.
 
2013-07-22 12:27:26 AM

TuteTibiImperes: I agree.  If an American allies themselves with terrorist organizations and flies over to join them, they're fair game.  Joining a foreign military legally renounces your citizenship, joining or aiding a terrorist group should do the same.


No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

You have to prove that they joined a terrorist organization in a court of law. The President is not the King, he does not get to declare that a person has renounced their citizenship without due process.
 
2013-07-22 12:32:34 AM

TuteTibiImperes: The whole Georgia-dude execution bit fell flat though, it certainly didn't need as much time this episode as it got.


Sorkin has a thing for the death penalty.
 
2013-07-22 12:41:42 AM
I want Maggie's roommate (Lisa) washed and brought to my chambers.
 
2013-07-22 12:50:15 AM
TuteTibiImperes:

I like the OWS bits, and Neil's advice (hindsight 20/20 yadda yadda) is exactly what they should have done to make more of an impact.

That hindsight aspect is what really bothered me last sason, and why I won't be watching it this season.  Coming up with the perspective it took the world months or years to realize in the first ten minutes of covering a story just comes off as supremely arrogant to me, and that really bugs me.
 
2013-07-22 12:57:43 AM
Anything with Maggie in it is dreadful. Rest of the show is pretty good. A little hit or miss depending on the quality of the current event (or not so current event) covered, but slowly getting better and less sanctimonious.
 
2013-07-22 01:00:40 AM

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: That hindsight aspect is what really bothered me last sason, and why I won't be watching it this season. Coming up with the perspective it took the world months or years to realize in the first ten minutes of covering a story just comes off as supremely arrogant to me, and that really bugs me.


They are addressing this head on this season.
 
2013-07-22 01:07:30 AM

Larry Mahnken: TuteTibiImperes: I agree.  If an American allies themselves with terrorist organizations and flies over to join them, they're fair game.  Joining a foreign military legally renounces your citizenship, joining or aiding a terrorist group should do the same.

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
You have to prove that they joined a terrorist organization in a court of law. The President is not the King, he does not get to declare that a person has renounced their citizenship without due process.


I can see the argument, and if he had been on American soil I'd agree with it, but I'd argue that living and/or consorting with suspected terrorists abroad is enough justification to place him on a kill list.

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: TuteTibiImperes:

I like the OWS bits, and Neil's advice (hindsight 20/20 yadda yadda) is exactly what they should have done to make more of an impact.

That hindsight aspect is what really bothered me last sason, and why I won't be watching it this season.  Coming up with the perspective it took the world months or years to realize in the first ten minutes of covering a story just comes off as supremely arrogant to me, and that really bugs me.


I get that, but at the same time it's so damn satisfying to hear the right message getting across and see things play out like they should have.
 
2013-07-22 01:33:49 AM
wills 'daddy issues plotline' is slowly turning into the reason studio 60 went to shiat.

i went to imdb to see if whatshisface-the-shrink-from-last-season is in any future episodes but stopped when i saw the poster for the show:

DRAMA!
 
2013-07-22 01:36:36 AM
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DUNNNNN. DUN DUN....  DUN DUN....   DUN DUN DUUUUUUUNNNNNNNNNNNN!
 
2013-07-22 01:50:17 AM

TuteTibiImperes: I can see the argument, and if he had been on American soil I'd agree with it, but I'd argue that living and/or consorting with suspected terrorists abroad is enough justification to place him on a kill list.


You blew it pretty hard there. All you had to do was leave out that word and then any rebuttal would be forced to ask for the legal definition of "terrorist".

I'd just like to say that any time justice is circumvented because it's easier or more expedient we've really farked up.
 
2013-07-22 01:57:16 AM
"Use your words!"

I'm getting sick of Mac's shiat.
 
2013-07-22 02:08:30 AM

Chagrin: TuteTibiImperes: I can see the argument, and if he had been on American soil I'd agree with it, but I'd argue that living and/or consorting with suspected terrorists abroad is enough justification to place him on a kill list.

You blew it pretty hard there. All you had to do was leave out that word and then any rebuttal would be forced to ask for the legal definition of "terrorist".

I'd just like to say that any time justice is circumvented because it's easier or more expedient we've really farked up.


Basically, it boils down to if you believe that American citizens should be subject to a different standard than foreign nationals when operating on foreign soil.
 
2013-07-22 02:53:37 AM
Seriously, why is there a Newsroom Fark Thread, when there could be a Venture Bros, or Dexter Fark Thread?

Sorkinisms 2.0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jeuV3xXxUc
 
2013-07-22 05:29:16 AM

Mad_Radhu: Brick-House: Drones are a pussies way of fighting a war. We really need to return to the good ol days of carpet bombing.

Nah, we need to go back to doing things the biblical way and just slaughter all the women and children because God told us we should have their land.


No. Only savages kill women and children over land.

The enlightened take the women and children for themselves

/Deuteronomy 20:13-14 & 21:10-13
 
2013-07-22 07:21:07 AM
This season sucks so far. It's slow. It's downbeat. It's moody. It's like they took everything I enjoyed about the first season and decided not to put any more of that in the show ever again.
 
2013-07-22 07:56:21 AM
I enjoyed Lisa's dressing down of Maggie. She said a lot of what annoys me about Maggie's character. Also, Lisa is really attractive.

This season seems to be on a slow burn so far. Looks to be building to something gigantic. I do wish they were working more in 2012 rather than right after season 1. Jim on the Romney campaign is intriguing, though.
 
2013-07-22 09:25:26 AM

DanZero: this is your Sunday night Newsroom thread

[www.lolwut.com image 533x594]


this
 
2013-07-22 09:45:03 AM

rbaron71: Jim on the Romney campaign is intriguing, though.


he looks like he's gonna try and start a riot of reporters next episode for not actually asking questions
 
2013-07-22 01:10:11 PM

JasonOfOrillia: "An American was on the kill list?"

Why is it OK for the U.S. government to kill non-Americans in other countries but not OK to kill Americans in other countries?


Agreed. This really bugs me about the argument. It almost sounds as if Americans are superior human beings. I imagine hearing that statement in 100 years as the equivilent of, "NO INTERRACIAL MARRIAGE!"

The way I see it, people in other countries are subject to the laws of that land, and not our own. Further, sects that have declared war on the United States have no legal rights. That doesn't mean we don't have an ethical code to stick by, but it definitely allows a huge degree of subjective flexibility.

Also - I loved the part where everyone laughs at Anonymous. I hope that builds up into some of the super hacking Anon did and how the FBI arrested a few people. They got a LOT of news coverage for a while and went from some BS internet group to the most well known hacktivist group.

And of course, Don sucks donkey balls. He's not a good guy. He's just an ahole douchebag. I wish people would stop referring to him as something he totally is not. In no interactions on the show is he ever remotely a good person. Everything he does is rude, condescending, and selfish. He is the worst character on the show, and without him the show would be better. If he hooks up with Olivia Munn's character, I will only dispise him more. She should have more sense and that relationship is totally forced.
 
2013-07-22 02:56:50 PM
rugman11:

And just to be "that guy," I'll link to my review of last week's episode.  I love watching this show, even if it can be infuriating to think about afterwards.

Not a bad review at all, but I would just point out that Charlie called her "Sorority Girl" because that is what Will called her in the first episode when he was answering her question (and that's why Charlie followed up with "you hired her?" or something similar). So it wasn't really Charlie being condescending... that exchange began with him saying she looked familiar, then asking her to say something (which I believe was part of the question she had asked), and then he recognized her.
 
2013-07-22 04:02:58 PM

Cork on Fork: rugman11:

And just to be "that guy," I'll link to my review of last week's episode.  I love watching this show, even if it can be infuriating to think about afterwards.

Not a bad review at all, but I would just point out that Charlie called her "Sorority Girl" because that is what Will called her in the first episode when he was answering her question (and that's why Charlie followed up with "you hired her?" or something similar). So it wasn't really Charlie being condescending... that exchange began with him saying she looked familiar, then asking her to say something (which I believe was part of the question she had asked), and then he recognized her.


Ah, good point.
 
2013-07-22 04:55:23 PM

somedude210: GIVE IT TO HER, MONEY SKIRT!


Welcome to the Favorites list.
 
2013-07-22 05:25:14 PM

bgddy24601: somedude210: GIVE IT TO HER, MONEY SKIRT!

Welcome to the Favorites list.


*bows*
 
2013-07-23 01:44:14 AM

rbaron71: I enjoyed Lisa's dressing down of Maggie. She said a lot of what annoys me about Maggie's character. Also, Lisa is really attractive.


I couldn't stand Lisa being such a twat about it.  She is exceedingly hot, though.
 
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