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2013-07-21 02:38:39 PM  

hardinparamedic: Can you give a citation on points one through three?


This was evidence recovered from Martin's cell phone that the Prosecution illegally attempted to conceal, and that only surfaced because of a whistle-blower in the Florida State's Attorney's office came forward.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/26/justice/florida-zimmerman-defense
http://www.inquisitr.com/846743/george-zimmerman-whistleblower-ben-k ru idbos-fired-trayvon-martin-drugs-guns-cell-phone/
http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/13/justice/zimmerman-it-firing/index.html
http://www.fivefeetoffury.com/2013/07/17/orlando-centinal-trayvon-ma rt in-had-child-porn-on-his-cell-phone/

Additionally, Martin was the beneficiary of a cover-up initiated by the Miami public schools to artificially lower their reported crime rates by treating crimes committed by students as disciplinary in lieu of filing criminal charges.   Martin got a short suspension instead of the felony charges (grand theft and going equipped for burglary) the evidence supported.

http://spectator.org/blog/2013/07/15/trayvon-crime-school-miami
 
2013-07-21 02:40:16 PM  

Misconduc: People need to stop being butt hurt and realize the Jury has spoken. That is all.


Yeah I don't get this. The other thing is that the trial is not about justice for the victim. The masses bring their emotions into this stuff and then shiat gets crazy. I didn't watch the trial and think Zimmerman is a dangerous person who needs therapy or something for his hero complex, but it's likely that the prosecutors simply didn't prove what they set out to prove.

Harassing Zimmerman for the rest of his life(or until the next reality star dangles a shiny object and breaks our collective attention span) isn't going to bring back Trayvon Martin and it certainly isn't going to prevent this sort of thing from happening again.
 
2013-07-21 02:41:42 PM  
I feel bad for Zimmer having to kill that thug.
 
2013-07-21 02:41:44 PM  

cyberspacedout: I'm missing something here. Is Eric Holder planning to bring charges against Zimmerman that would once again put him in jeopardy of "life or limb," as stated in the Fifth?


It's "life, liberty or property." So, yes.
 
2013-07-21 02:41:50 PM  
I doubt the feds will find enough to pursue a federal case against Zimmerman, as shameful as it he will get away with killing an unarmed teenager as far as criminal charges at least.

The state prosecutors bungled things badly and to my mind counted far to much on Zimmerman testifying in his own defense, the defense team sensed this and did not let him testify.
 
2013-07-21 02:42:19 PM  

The Lone Gunman: See You Next Tuesday: Popcorn Johnny: See You Next Tuesday: Name one well-adjusted teenager. Go on.

What % of teens are perusing the illegal purchase of a firearm?

Did he have one that night?  No.  Had he ever been arrested? No.  Had Fat Mexican? YES.  All three are irrelevant, much like your constant presence on this site.

More relevant:  Did Zimmerman KNOW that Martin was perusing the illegal purchase of a firearm?

Basically, it's about what was clear that night.  It was unclear to Zim that Martin was a threat of any kind or had a gun.  It is clear that Martin wasn't committing a crime at the time.  It is clear that Zim had a gun and was well aware that, in all likelihood, he would win a confrontation.  It is clear that Zim was aware that he had a violent past (which Martin was unaware of).

Oddly enough, if Martin was armed and had killed Zim, the law would've been on his side.

Because of "Stand Your Ground".


Tell us, oh wise one. It's not clear and never has been that Martin wasn't committing a crime that evening, now was it? It is clear that Zimmerman had a weapon, yet, Martin, didn't know this, nor did Zimmerman NOT know if Martin had a weapon or not. Tell us, oh wise one, which of them at the time knew that either one had a weapon? Since this is what you and others want to base so many revelations on. Tell us, how Zimmerman, didn't know that Martin wasn't armed. Apparently Martin, had a seventh sense and he could tell that Zimmerman was armed. Yet, at the same time Zimmerman is expected to have had the same knowledge and know that Martin wasn't armed. Difficulty: facts are out there for you to actually look at and see, and read.
 
2013-07-21 02:42:58 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: vygramul: and the Zimmerman people don't think assaulting a cop reflects on his personality.

Zim was a a bar with friends and saw some dude grab one of his peeps. Turns out the guy was a plain clothes undercover cop. The fact that the charges were eventually dropped should be a huge red flag that this wasn't what some of Team Trayvon want to make it out to be. Do you really farking think they'd drop assault on an officer charges if they were valid?


Wow, And Zimmerman was made out to be such a pussy in court by his own defense team? No wonder they wanted to keep this violent act of him drunkenly attacking an under cover cop, in a bar. Sounds like a guy with a huge chip on his shoulder. Not some doughy panty-boy he his defense team made him out to be in court.
 
2013-07-21 02:43:42 PM  

clyph: I love the fact that Mr. Martin's criminal history has been deliberately swept under the carpet.   The prosecution tried very hard to conceal the fact that Trayvon:

- Conspired to purchase an illegal handgun (felony)
- Was found in possession of stolen property and burglary tools (felony)
- Had child pornography on his cell phone (felony)
- Had a documented history of assault and had announced his intent to commit additional assaults (felony)


I partially agree with you, but:
Using child pornography laws to go after sexing teens is bullshiat.
IMO, the concept of "burglary tools" and "going equipped" is also bullshiat. He had a screwdriver. If he committed burglary (and yeah, he almost certainly did) then charge him with that. I don't see how using a screwdriver in the act makes it worse.
 
2013-07-21 02:44:03 PM  

bugontherug: RexTalionis: In other words: "Even though the Supreme Court said we're wrong, we're choosing to believe in our interpretation of the Constitution."

This isn't an incoherent position. It's perfectly reasonable for people to believe the Supreme Court has incorrectly construed the Constitution. The Pope is infallible. Not the Supreme Court.

But it's also not unthinkable given the evidence adduced at trial that Zimmerman was acting as a police agent at the time he killed Trayvon, filling the state action requirement of a civil rights prosecution. Not only was he working closely with the police in monitoring Trayvon for no reason, but Sanford PD had specifically worked with him through its NW liason.


Oh, please, give us a break. Acting as a 'police agent' without pay, a license or badge, equipment, backup, or training? Really? What other 'police agents' in this country work this way?

This is just another red herring thrown out but race-baiters who know nothing of the evidence and need some excuse to get more donations from gullible idiots.
 
2013-07-21 02:46:17 PM  

RandomAxe: Popcorn Johnny: What % of teens are perusing the illegal purchase of a firearm?

If I understand your use of "perusing", I'd say probably somewhere near 50%, at some point during their teen years. That was probably about right back when I was a teen, too.


I'm sorry, I never saw where Martin was charged and convicted of trying to attain a firearm. And I've been following the case pretty closely. This is news to me. Is there a police report?
 
2013-07-21 02:46:58 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: See You Next Tuesday: Name one well-adjusted teenager. Go on.

What % of teens are perusing the illegal purchase of a firearm?


A lot of them. Teens do stupid stuff, and usually the parents have no idea. I helped pull a prank in high school that today would have had me up on hundreds of federal terrorism charges and probably gotten me sentenced to effectively life in prison despite there being no possibility of physical harm to others.

Even back then I could have been charged with at least a few federal crimes and I knew that. Five of my friends were charged with computer crimes, including hacking into the school's computer system and redistributing students to new, fake classes just before report cards were printed. Others repeatedly got busted for receiving stolen property for buying cheap electronics off the street, driving without a license, and vandalism (post-game celebration after the first winning season in our school's history). I was on our school's scholastic bowl team and we got kicked out of a bunch of restaurants around the state.

Teens do stupid criminal stuff. especially smart ones.
 
2013-07-21 02:47:12 PM  
In other news, over 11,000 blacks have been killed by other blacks since the night Trayvon was killed. Where's the outrage over their deaths?
 
2013-07-21 02:48:18 PM  
Zimmerman should move to Dubai
they'd welcome him with OPEN arms
 
2013-07-21 02:49:40 PM  

Nabb1: vygramul: Popcorn Johnny: Team Zim!

If you want to come across as being a Twilight fan, that's your business.

Better a "Twilight" fan than a delusional fan that treats a dead sociopath like a teen heart throb.


So you bought into the smear campaign?
 
2013-07-21 02:51:08 PM  

Mistymtnhop: I'm sorry, I never saw where Martin was charged and convicted of trying to attain a firearm. And I've been following the case pretty closely. This is news to me. Is there a police report?


So in your world, the guy who arranges to meet the 14 year old at McDonald's for sex is innocent, right?
 
2013-07-21 02:52:59 PM  

clyph: This was evidence recovered from Martin's cell phone that the Prosecution illegally attempted to conceal, and that only surfaced because of a whistle-blower in the Florida State's Attorney's office came forward.


Your first link: Martin took pictures of himself flipping people off and was in a bad mood.
Your second link: A person claims there were pictures of a black hand with a gun, and that Martin was texting to arrange a gun deal without actually providing the actual text of the supposed messages.
Your third link: same thing.
Fourth link: Teenager was sexting teenager of equivalent age. Which, again, remind me of the letter of the law versus the spirit.

I do give you credit, though. At least you didn't take this into far right field by pushing the marijuana issue. I felt I was in DARE class in yesterday's thread.
 
2013-07-21 02:53:48 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: In other news, over 11,000 blacks have been killed by other blacks since the night Trayvon was killed. Where's the outrage over their deaths?


Real racists, etc etc.
 
2013-07-21 02:55:05 PM  

Loose_Cannon: bugontherug: RexTalionis: In other words: "Even though the Supreme Court said we're wrong, we're choosing to believe in our interpretation of the Constitution."

This isn't an incoherent position. It's perfectly reasonable for people to believe the Supreme Court has incorrectly construed the Constitution. The Pope is infallible. Not the Supreme Court.

But it's also not unthinkable given the evidence adduced at trial that Zimmerman was acting as a police agent at the time he killed Trayvon, filling the state action requirement of a civil rights prosecution. Not only was he working closely with the police in monitoring Trayvon for no reason, but Sanford PD had specifically worked with him through its NW liason.

Oh, please, give us a break. Acting as a 'police agent' without pay, a license or badge, equipment, backup, or training? Really? What other 'police agents' in this country work this way?

This is just another red herring thrown out but race-baiters who know nothing of the evidence and need some excuse to get more donations from gullible idiots.


You and I both agree that this is all sensationalist bullshiat designed to distract people from REAL issues.  However, you have to respect the legal argument.  It's interesting that his being on the phone with the dispatcher and the dispatcher saying "What is he doing now?" could lead to acting under color of law.

Yes, it's bullshiat.  But it's a wonderfully inventive legal argument.  Hell of a lot better than child abuse being the predicate felony for felonious murder.
 
2013-07-21 02:55:47 PM  

jonnyh: I watched a lot of the trial, and my take is that if there had been one reasonable person in that encounter, no one would have been hurt.

I think that Trayvon was cocky kid, who was emulating the thug lifestyle and was sick of the creepy white guy that was giving him a hard time, and maybe too eager to lay hands on someone. I think that it's a shame that no one is discussing the role of popular urban culture in all of this, because it was a contributing factor. Just not PC, I guess. I think that given Holder's and Obama's speeches, that the GOP research teams are going to be working overtime to tarnish Trayvon's halo, and that they're going to find a lot of juicy details that make him look non-innocent.

I think that Zimmerman was suffering from little man with a gun, wanna-be cop syndrome, and was looking for an excuse to project himself. I think that it's a shame that there wasn't more discussion of the role of gun culture in all of this, because it was a contributing factor. Just not PC, I guess.

I think that both parties contributed to the ultimate tragedy. I think that Trayvon threw the first punch, which was a mistake, even if he had been goaded into it, and I think that Zimmerman was a trigger happy, angry individual.

I think that the laws in Florida are crazy, but given them, justice was served. I think that the judge was actually biased against Zimmerman - throwing in manslaughter in the 11th hour would have absolutely allowed a appeal - but that the prosecution was both weak and had a poor case.

I think that both Holder and Obama did, in fact, play the race card to a degree, but that they did show bravery by taking a stance.

And I think that the ACLU should be applauded for standing up to the Feds.

//Agreed, just let this thing go.


I keep hearing the whole "thug lifestyle" thing. What exactly does that mean to you?
 
2013-07-21 02:58:34 PM  

RexTalionis: We are writing to clearly state the ACLU's position on whether or not the Department of Justice (DOJ) should consider bringing federal civil rights or hate crimes charges as a result of the state court acquittal in the George Zimmerman case. Even though the Supreme Court permits a federal prosecution following a state prosecution, the ACLU believes the Double Jeopardy Clause of the Constitution protects someone from being prosecuted in another court for charges arising from the same transaction.


In other words: "Even though the Supreme Court said we're wrong, we're choosing to believe in our interpretation of the Constitution."


Remind me again when the Tea Party infiltrated the ACLU.
 
2013-07-21 02:58:40 PM  

Oh_Enough_Already: clyph: I love the fact that Mr. Martin's criminal history has been deliberately swept under the carpet.   The prosecution tried very hard to conceal the fact that Trayvon:

- Conspired to purchase an illegal handgun (felony)
- Was found in possession of stolen property and burglary tools (felony)
- Had child pornography on his cell phone (felony)
- Had a documented history of assault and had announced his intent to commit additional assaults (felony)

I'll give him a pass on pot possession because it's hard to find a high school student who doesn't smoke.

This was not an innocent teenager.   This was a budding young criminal who actively cultivated a 'gangsta' image and was deeply immersed in casual criminality.

You take that back!

This is who he really was, the media TOLD US SO!

[www.timeslive.co.za image 630x400]


HAY!! Look at how innocent Trayvon looks in this sonogram ..



www.theblindcard.com
 
2013-07-21 02:59:20 PM  

hardinparamedic: Carth: if getting suspended for fights and doing drugs are "just normal teenage things" I had the most boring childhood ever. I was busy playing sports,  going on dates and playing computer games.

Seriously? When I went to a private religious school, I spent almost every day in ISS because I "questioned" and blasphemed. Worst year of my life ever.

Getting in a fight is not unheard of for teenagers. Neither is talking trash to one another, or rebelling against adult authority.

I get that you were a goody-good child who probably got the rod taken to him every time you said something more than "Please, Sir, May I have some more", but you're honestly going to set here and tell me "normal" teenagers are the Leave it to beaver types?

Like I said. There are no innocent sides in this. And there are no heroes. What we have here is a dead teenager who will never get the chance to prove to the world he wasn't the "thug" everyone seems to think he was or to grow up, and we have a man who has had his life destroyed by his decisions, and who will now have to live with the fact that not only did he take another human's life, and that his family has been turned into a media spectacle, but will now have the fact that he destroyed another family on his sholders no matter where he goes.

Zimmerman will NEVER have a normal life.

The blatant polarized idolatry of both these individuals as anything more than people who made very bad decisions that escalated one on top of another throughout the entire episode by either side is the worst part of this whole spectacle.


You must have gone to a very different private school. We only had 60 kids in our grade. There was 1 fight in four years and they both got expelled and one was arrested. People would drink on weekends but drug use was very rare. We were allowed to design our own curriculum so 'rebelling' against teachers was pointless since you could drop them and go to another class.

I didn't know fighting and drugs were so endemic among most people's high schools. TIL i guess.
 
2013-07-21 03:01:11 PM  
Charged + arrested + innocent until proven guilty - proven guilty = innocent.

That's math, people. MATH!
 
2013-07-21 03:03:01 PM  

Oh_Enough_Already: clyph: I love the fact that Mr. Martin's criminal history has been deliberately swept under the carpet.   The prosecution tried very hard to conceal the fact that Trayvon:

- Conspired to purchase an illegal handgun (felony)
- Was found in possession of stolen property and burglary tools (felony)
- Had child pornography on his cell phone (felony)
- Had a documented history of assault and had announced his intent to commit additional assaults (felony)

I'll give him a pass on pot possession because it's hard to find a high school student who doesn't smoke.

This was not an innocent teenager.   This was a budding young criminal who actively cultivated a 'gangsta' image and was deeply immersed in casual criminality.

You take that back!

This is who he really was, the media TOLD US SO!

[www.timeslive.co.za image 630x400]


Ah but it's not Trevan on trial. Even if the above were true, Zimmerman would have had to have telepathic powers.

As for what happened, you have to rewind backwards :

- Zimmerman shoots Martin

- why? Because Martin pounded him, high on skittles.

- why? Because Martin was creeped out by a loony with a gun.who was stalking him and got afraid, acting in self defense.

- why was Martin being stalked?  Because he was a black dude and Zimmerman wanted to kill one.
 
2013-07-21 03:04:33 PM  
dear aclu.. the double jeopardy clause prevents people for being tried twice for the same crime... if the feds levy a different charge then florida did double jeopardy does not apply..

aka.. stay the hell out of it
 
2013-07-21 03:05:24 PM  
The ACLU somehow manages to be extremely steadfast and extremely fickle at the same time. There was no way they were ever going to stay out of this case once it hit the federal level, but which side would they take? That was a much harder question to answer, with all the grey areas. I have to admit that I'm pleasantly surprised at what that answer appears to be.

The law being cited for this double-jeopardy gambit was intended to be used in cases where a state refused to prosecute clear civil-rights violations, not cases where a state merely prosecutes but fails to achieve the desired verdict. It should never have been used this way, and the SCOTUS should never have held such cases as valid. If the case proceeds, I hope it ends in overturning that decision.
 
2013-07-21 03:06:31 PM  
LOL Trayvon Supporters are calling for a boycott of Disney and Florida - please no stop! don't leave... Don't let the door hit your sorry arses on the way out, and please dont come back.
 
2013-07-21 03:06:39 PM  
Does Obama ever handle a situation correctly?  What a joke he has turned out to be.
 
2013-07-21 03:08:08 PM  
www.theblindcard.com

Earliest know picture of Trayvon.

 
2013-07-21 03:08:33 PM  

Nemo's Brother: Does Obama ever handle a situation correctly?  What a joke he has turned out to be.


You know it's bad when even his most ardent supporters have been reduced to saying, "at least he's better than the other guy".
 
2013-07-21 03:09:16 PM  

Misconduc: LOL Trayvon Supporters are calling for a boycott of Disney and Florida - please no stop! don't leave... Don't let the door hit your sorry arses on the way out, and please dont come back.


Huh? I've had a boycott of Florida going on for years! It's the canker sore of America.
 
2013-07-21 03:10:14 PM  
hey, how did my 'known' turn into 'know' .. that's just farked up

/i'm a good speler
 
2013-07-21 03:11:50 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: Nemo's Brother: Does Obama ever handle a situation correctly?  What a joke he has turned out to be.

You know it's bad when even his most ardent supporters have been reduced to saying, "at least he's better than the other guy".


Obama was a fool for thinking his opponents had any shred of human decency or honor, that's for sure.
 
2013-07-21 03:13:04 PM  

coyo: Obama was a fool for thinking his opponents had any shred of human decency or honor, that's for sure.


Obama's supporters were a fool for thinking he was different from any other politician.
 
2013-07-21 03:13:26 PM  

i.imgur.com

 
2013-07-21 03:13:32 PM  
It is a sad day for our Galaxy.

Yesterday in Mos Eisley, Tatooine, Han Solo, a white man and self proclaimed "defender of the galaxy" shot and killed unarmed Rodian youth Greedo. Solo was later captured by Imperial StormTroopers but was later released when Solo claimed Greedo shot first and he (Solo) was merely acting in self defense. The Greedo family lawyer is attempting to contact a Hutt whose name has not yet been released to the media as it is suspected that it was the last individual to contact Greedo before his death.

I wanted to believe Imperial society had moved past this speciesist bullshiat but I guess we haven't. The Empire is obviously corrupt and we need to make our voices known. I suggest we stage rebellions on Tatooine, Yavin 4, and Hoth to let the Empire know the Galactic Community will not stand for this.

#JusticeForGreedo
i.imgur.com
 
2013-07-21 03:14:24 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: coyo: Obama was a fool for thinking his opponents had any shred of human decency or honor, that's for sure.

Obama's supporters were a fool for thinking he was different from any other politician.


What evidence do you have that they thought that? It's an interesting myth you buy in to, that he was 'worshipped'.
 
2013-07-21 03:15:08 PM  

Mentat: The Supreme Court has proven many times over the course of their history that their interpretation of the Constitution isn't always right.


The Constitution itself has proven many times throughout its history to not be right.
 
2013-07-21 03:15:40 PM  

Autistic Hiker: Giltric: RexTalonis:  In other words: "Even though the Supreme Court said we're wrong, we're choosing to believe in our interpretation of the Constitution."

They feel the same way about Heller v DC.

I wouldn't get too cocky about Heller, a 5-4 decision based on Scalia cherry-picking definitions from two-hundred-year-old dictionaries, if I were you.



So they used a dictionary that was as old as the document they were interpreting?

That is what you are outraged about?
 
2013-07-21 03:16:16 PM  
Dear ACLU,

Tell that shiat to OJ Simpson. Then go fark yourselves.

Sincerely,

Eric Holder
 
2013-07-21 03:16:33 PM  

Skyrmion: Using child pornography laws to go after sexing teens is bullshiat.


Child pornography is a strict liability crime.  In the eyes of the law, any lascivious image of a person under the age of 18 is child pornography; the law does not distinguish between a lascivious image of a 7 year old and a 17 year old.  The law may be absurd, but until it is changed, the legal standard is that any image that meets the criteria of the Dost test is legally child pornography - regardless of the age of the person who took it or the age of the person who possesses it.   Of course no one will ever change the law (except to make it more draconian) because appearing to defend pedophiles is political suicide.

FYI, Teen girls have been successfully prosecuted on CP charges for taking topless self-portraits.
 
2013-07-21 03:16:52 PM  

simkatu: Mentat: The Supreme Court has proven many times over the course of their history that their interpretation of the Constitution isn't always right.

The Constitution itself has proven many times throughout its history to not be right.


Indeed. Most of it was a compromise. The bill of rights was never only really ever adhered too when it was reasonably convenient to do so.
 
2013-07-21 03:17:01 PM  

Deep Contact: I feel bad for Zimmer having to kill that thug.


Nolan Ryan had it coming.
 
2013-07-21 03:17:07 PM  

coyo: What evidence do you have that they thought that?


http://www.fark.com/politics/
 
2013-07-21 03:18:55 PM  

dapharmer: dear aclu.. the double jeopardy clause prevents people for being tried twice for the same crime... if the feds levy a different charge then florida did double jeopardy does not apply..

aka.. stay the hell out of it


Actually, double-jeopardy prevents people from being tried twice for the same actions. It cannot prevent people from being tried twice for the same crime, because there is no crime until there is a guilty verdict: that's the point of levying charges.

To proceed with a case here, the feds would have to argue that Florida's charges only covered the actual shooting, and not the events that preceded it. That argument could certainly be made, as the only charges brought up at the state level all involve Martin's actual death. But there's a catch: if you do this, then Martin's death becomes irrelevant to the federal case, because it happened after the time span the case covers.

The people calling for federal prosecution will never be satisfied with a case argued that way. They believe that the events of that night need to be treated as a single unit, starting no later than the moment Zimmerman noticed Martin was black, and ending no sooner than the moment Martin died. To be honest, I agree with them on that: I'd even move the clock a little further out on both ends. To proceed with a federal case without violating double-jeopardy, you have to break up that time span.
 
2013-07-21 03:19:16 PM  

zamboni: That actually hasn't proven to be the case in Florida


Funny thing about that, in the  Times analysis there's a pretty big intervening variable that's  also pointed out by the article you linked: instances with a black defender and a black victim are  also accounted for in the "by defendant" analysis. The article points out that stand-your-ground cases with a black victim resulted in acquittal 73% of the time, while cases with a white victim resulted in acquittal 59% of the time, with the discrepancy being explained by the larger number of black perpetrators altogether.

In mixed-race cases, white defendants with a black victim were acquitted at a (marginally) higher rate than black defendants with a white victim.

Of course, as your linked article points out, that still does not excuse inconsistent application, especially in regards to other ethnically- or gender-charged cases such as that of Marissa Alexander (again, where's the outrage from the "Second Amendment Solutions" crowd that a black woman took their advice for once and was convicted despite having SYG and castle doctrine on her side?). Nor, more broadly, does it excuse that stand-your-ground has led to acquittals for repeat offenders or the outright bizarre. The "vampire" case was particularly amusing, as was the case where the victim was a bear.
 
2013-07-21 03:19:43 PM  

Elegy: It is a sad day for our Galaxy.

Yesterday in Mos Eisley, Tatooine, Han Solo, a white man and self proclaimed "defender of the galaxy" shot and killed unarmed Rodian youth Greedo. Solo was later captured by Imperial StormTroopers but was later released when Solo claimed Greedo shot first and he (Solo) was merely acting in self defense. The Greedo family lawyer is attempting to contact a Hutt whose name has not yet been released to the media as it is suspected that it was the last individual to contact Greedo before his death.

I wanted to believe Imperial society had moved past this speciesist bullshiat but I guess we haven't. The Empire is obviously corrupt and we need to make our voices known. I suggest we stage rebellions on Tatooine, Yavin 4, and Hoth to let the Empire know the Galactic Community will not stand for this.

#JusticeForGreedo
[i.imgur.com image 220x281]


Okay. THAT was funny. Bravo, Sir.
 
2013-07-21 03:21:39 PM  

Oh_Enough_Already: Given the fact that Obama was the child of a Kenyan who raised by white folks in Hawaii, how on earth - beyond the color of his skin - is he in any way shape or form authentically "black?"


Much can be said for Obama being more from "white" culture than "black", but the simple fact remains that when people see him they see his skin and treat him as a black.
 
2013-07-21 03:21:47 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: coyo: What evidence do you have that they thought that?

http://www.fark.com/politics/


I'm sorry, I forgot specifics were too difficult to do. I'm betting that you would consider. "He doesn't suck" to be evidence of Obama worship.
 
2013-07-21 03:22:09 PM  

Elegy: It is a sad day for our Galaxy.


Let me guess, 4chan?
 
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