If you can read this, either the style sheet didn't load or you have an older browser that doesn't support style sheets. Try clearing your browser cache and refreshing the page.

(Daily Mail)   Helen Mirren: 'If I'd had children and had a girl, the first words I would have taught her would have been "f*** off"   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 215
    More: Cool, Helen Mirren, Stephen Daldry, Academy Award for Best Actress, cardigans, Jimmy Savile  
•       •       •

12480 clicks; posted to Main » on 20 Jul 2013 at 10:06 PM (1 year ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



215 Comments   (+0 »)
   
View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest

First | « | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | » | Last | Show all
 
2013-07-20 09:43:50 PM
I wish she didn't frame it so gender-focusedly.  It's a good thing for everyone to learn to say appropriately.
It's really liberating to accept that you don't have to match other people's emotional intensity.  You can tell someone to fark off, and not be emotional at all if they scream at you or cry or whatever.  Their emotions are not your responsibility, and you don't owe them empathy.
 
2013-07-20 09:50:38 PM

staplermofo: I wish she didn't frame it so gender-focusedly.  It's a good thing for everyone to learn to say appropriately.
It's really liberating to accept that you don't have to match other people's emotional intensity.  You can tell someone to fark off, and not be emotional at all if they scream at you or cry or whatever.  Their emotions are not your responsibility, and you don't owe them empathy.


Oh, the poor, poor oppressed men.

Girls are traditionally taught to be people-pleasers. Women who dare tell men to "f*ck off" are called all sorts of things and have their sexuality and gender questioned as a matter of course. Learning to say "f*ck off", for a girl, is learning not to give a damn what men think of you. That takes a special level of courage.
 
2013-07-20 09:54:17 PM
'I love being a badass, it's just the best,' smiles Mirren.

Cool, I love watching HM be a badass so it all works out.

/Found the original RED to be overall enjoyable but a bit hit and miss as well.
//I have greater hopes for this one.
 
2013-07-20 10:00:42 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: Women who dare tell men to "f*ck off" are called all sorts of things and have their sexuality and gender questioned as a matter of course


People under 20 have their sexuality and gender questioned by their peers for everything.  People are routinely awful to each other well into their late 20s.  Peer pressure is a problem for everyone.  I didn't intend to compare the difficulty of it between genders.  You've gotta agree it's harder for people whose parents are the sort of jackasses who raise them to be people-pleasers than for people with sane parents.
 
2013-07-20 10:07:57 PM
That's what Suri should've said to the paparazzi.
 
2013-07-20 10:10:46 PM
Dame Helen Mirren has said that if she had children, the first words she would have taught a daughter would be 'f*** off' - after she endured years of sexism during her early career.

i.dailymail.co.uk

"Don't look at me!  Stop sexualizing me!"
 
2013-07-20 10:10:52 PM
Oh that Helen, what a dame.
 
2013-07-20 10:11:26 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: staplermofo: I wish she didn't frame it so gender-focusedly.  It's a good thing for everyone to learn to say appropriately.
It's really liberating to accept that you don't have to match other people's emotional intensity.  You can tell someone to fark off, and not be emotional at all if they scream at you or cry or whatever.  Their emotions are not your responsibility, and you don't owe them empathy.

Oh, the poor, poor oppressed men.

Girls are traditionally taught to be people-pleasers. Women who dare tell men to "f*ck off" are called all sorts of things and have their sexuality and gender questioned as a matter of course. Learning to say "f*ck off", for a girl, is learning not to give a damn what men think of you. That takes a special level of courage.


I am going to go with staple on this. I was raised by a bellowing bullying alcoholic. (I am a guy). It turned me into an incredibly shy submissive fop. I got over it, but still have to work at it on certain occasions. No offense Bene.....I always appreciated your postings.
 
2013-07-20 10:13:45 PM
Helen, you are old and ugly. Fark off yerself.
 
2013-07-20 10:16:16 PM

Red Shirt Blues: Benevolent Misanthrope: staplermofo: I wish she didn't frame it so gender-focusedly.  It's a good thing for everyone to learn to say appropriately.
It's really liberating to accept that you don't have to match other people's emotional intensity.  You can tell someone to fark off, and not be emotional at all if they scream at you or cry or whatever.  Their emotions are not your responsibility, and you don't owe them empathy.

Oh, the poor, poor oppressed men.

Girls are traditionally taught to be people-pleasers. Women who dare tell men to "f*ck off" are called all sorts of things and have their sexuality and gender questioned as a matter of course. Learning to say "f*ck off", for a girl, is learning not to give a damn what men think of you. That takes a special level of courage.

I am going to go with s*taple on this. I was raised by a bellowing bullying alcoholic. (I am a guy). It turned me into an incredibly shy submissive fop. I got over it, but still have to work at it on certain occasions. No offense Bene.....I always appreciated your postings.


That's a different topic.  Learning to say f*ck off is important to everyone.  It's important to women for reasons that don't apply to men.

It's also important to men for reasons that don't apply to women.  But that's a different topic.  Mirren's talking about teaching a girl to say f*ck off.  Why can't she talk about that?  Why does she have to say "and men too!" at the end of every sentence, which seems to be what the complaint is.
 
2013-07-20 10:17:53 PM
That was a terribly written article.
 
2013-07-20 10:20:54 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: Girls are traditionally taught to be people-pleasers. Women who dare tell men to "f*ck off" are called all sorts of things and have their sexuality and gender questioned as a matter of course. Learning to say "f*ck off", for a girl, is learning not to give a damn what men think of you. That takes a special level of courage.


Meh.. women crave that kind of attention. Not gonna get much sympathy here.
 
2013-07-20 10:20:55 PM

FatherChaos: Dame Helen Mirren has said that if she had children, the first words she would have taught a daughter would be 'f*** off' - after she endured years of sexism during her early career.



"Don't look at me!  Stop sexualizing me!"


I love that photo so much.
 
2013-07-20 10:22:17 PM
I've never near heard of her but, from that article, I'm pretty sure that she's an unsavory tramp.
 
2013-07-20 10:22:43 PM

Dafatone: Learning to say f*ck off is important to everyone.


That was my point.
 
2013-07-20 10:23:19 PM
She was in Caligula.
 
2013-07-20 10:24:42 PM

Red Shirt Blues: Benevolent Misanthrope: staplermofo: I wish she didn't frame it so gender-focusedly.  It's a good thing for everyone to learn to say appropriately.
It's really liberating to accept that you don't have to match other people's emotional intensity.  You can tell someone to fark off, and not be emotional at all if they scream at you or cry or whatever.  Their emotions are not your responsibility, and you don't owe them empathy.

Oh, the poor, poor oppressed men.

Girls are traditionally taught to be people-pleasers. Women who dare tell men to "f*ck off" are called all sorts of things and have their sexuality and gender questioned as a matter of course. Learning to say "f*ck off", for a girl, is learning not to give a damn what men think of you. That takes a special level of courage.

I am going to go with staple on this. I was raised by a bellowing bullying alcoholic. (I am a guy). It turned me into an incredibly shy submissive fop. I got over it, but still have to work at it on certain occasions. No offense Bene.....I always appreciated your postings.


I was raised by a people pleaser, and have grown up to be shy and submissive too. Nature vs. nurture can be a real biatch sometimes.
 
2013-07-20 10:26:24 PM
If she was interested in trying to have children now, I'd be more than willing to help.
 
2013-07-20 10:26:28 PM
Women have never had a problem telling me to f**k off.
 
2013-07-20 10:28:26 PM

Penman: That was a terribly written article.


That was the Daily Fail.

/Message brought to you by the department of redundancy department.
 
2013-07-20 10:28:34 PM
attention whore.
 
2013-07-20 10:30:49 PM

WhippingBoy: She was in Caligula.


She was in Excalibur.
 
2013-07-20 10:32:45 PM
My first major involved a lot of welding. I was in class and worked with almost all men, so I sort of feel her on the whole "boy's club" thing. She deal with it differently than I, but I enjoy reading her perspective.

And she is smokin' hot in that little red bikini. And thinking of her in those outfits in some of her movies... But the bikini pic...

I have no idea what the article was about anymore.
 
2013-07-20 10:33:37 PM

elvisaintdead: WhippingBoy: She was in Caligula.

She was in Excalibur.


She makes poor choices.
 
2013-07-20 10:33:53 PM

staplermofo: I wish she didn't frame it so gender-focusedly.  It's a good thing for everyone to learn to say appropriately.
It's really liberating to accept that you don't have to match other people's emotional intensity.  You can tell someone to fark off, and not be emotional at all if they scream at you or cry or whatever.  Their emotions are not your responsibility, and you don't owe them empathy.


She framed it gender-focusedly because it is a gendered issue. Women are very much taught to be pleasing, to never say no. And that's very much a gender issue. Men can have these sort of issues as well but they are absolutely not taught it by society in the same ways or by the same degree as women.
 
2013-07-20 10:34:54 PM
i.dailymail.co.uk
"I WANT GIRLS TO SWEAR AT MEN".

And I want famous for being famous people to stop acting like every piss precious, "z0mg teh edgy!" pronouncement they make has some deep gravitas.

I ain't holding my breath.

So, in short, fu*k off, Helen. :  )
 
2013-07-20 10:36:02 PM
If Helen Mirren had a son, he would look like Trayvon.
 
2013-07-20 10:36:07 PM
Too bad she didn't have any kids, eh?
 
2013-07-20 10:38:34 PM

bunner: And I want famous for being famous people to stop acting like every piss precious, "z0mg teh edgy!" pronouncement they make has some deep gravitas.


Wait how is Helen Mirren famous for being famous?  She's a very accomplished actress.
 
2013-07-20 10:38:40 PM

Dafatone: Mirren's talking about teaching a girl to say f*ck off. Why can't she talk about that? Why does she have to say "and men too!" at the end of every sentence


You're right, I should have put more thought into it.
 
2013-07-20 10:38:51 PM
Anál nathrach, orth' bháis's bethad, do chél dénmha
 
2013-07-20 10:39:58 PM

bunner: famous for being famous people


You don't know who Helen Mirren is, do you?
 
2013-07-20 10:40:09 PM

BlackMtnMan: Helen, you are old and ugly. Fark off yerself.


Dafuq? Mirren is 62 years old in the red bikini photo. Lordy, have mercy.
 
2013-07-20 10:40:34 PM

PillsHere: bunner: And I want famous for being famous people to stop acting like every piss precious, "z0mg teh edgy!" pronouncement they make has some deep gravitas.

Wait how is Helen Mirren famous for being famous?  She's a very accomplished actress.


So was Sir Laurence Olivier.  And when they asked him to hand out advice, he said "try and remember your lines and don't trip over the furniture."  I'm very good at what I do, too.  Wanna hear my advice on child rearing?
 
2013-07-20 10:41:53 PM

Penman: Benevolent Misanthrope: Girls are traditionally taught to be people-pleasers. Women who dare tell men to "f*ck off" are called all sorts of things and have their sexuality and gender questioned as a matter of course. Learning to say "f*ck off", for a girl, is learning not to give a damn what men think of you. That takes a special level of courage.

Meh.. women crave that kind of attention. Not gonna get much sympathy here.


Ladies and gentlemen: Mansplaining in a nutshell. Because nobody knows better what a woman wants than a man.
 
2013-07-20 10:42:05 PM
The first words I taught my kids is 'that man touched me in my no-no place' and it's paid off handsomely.
 
2013-07-20 10:42:06 PM
1.bp.blogspot.com
"Fark Off!"
 
2013-07-20 10:42:14 PM

quatchi: bunner: famous for being famous people

You don't know who Helen Mirren is, do you?


Yeah, an actress who thinks every time she opens her mouth, something amazing happens.  On camera, maybe.

/worked with a lot of famous people
//the arrogant pricks don't even like each other
///the nice ones pay their bills on time
 
2013-07-20 10:42:23 PM

TheOmni: staplermofo: I wish she didn't frame it so gender-focusedly.  It's a good thing for everyone to learn to say appropriately.
It's really liberating to accept that you don't have to match other people's emotional intensity.  You can tell someone to fark off, and not be emotional at all if they scream at you or cry or whatever.  Their emotions are not your responsibility, and you don't owe them empathy.

She framed it gender-focusedly because it is a gendered issue. Women are very much taught to be pleasing, to never say no. And that's very much a gender issue. Men can have these sort of issues as well but they are absolutely not taught it by society in the same ways or by the same degree as women.


^THIS, and more.  Women are constantly on the verge of unwanted sexual attention in any social situation involving alcohol, and there's huge social pressure to be "nice" and to not be a "b*tch."  Clubbing as a female must be a f*cking nightmare.  I'm going to teach my daughters how to say "f*ck off" and give them a nice crotch-kicking practice dummy.
 
2013-07-20 10:43:45 PM

bunner: [i.dailymail.co.uk image 306x525]
"I WANT GIRLS TO SWEAR AT MEN".

And I want famous for being famous people to stop acting like every piss precious, "z0mg teh edgy!" pronouncement they make has some deep gravitas.

I ain't holding my breath.

So, in short, fu*k off, Helen. :  )


Who knew that a 35+ year career in acting AND an Academy Award meant she was just "famous for being famous"?

In short, fark off, bunner.
 
2013-07-20 10:44:19 PM

BlackMtnMan: Helen, you are old and ugly. Fark off yerself.


www.miataturbo.net
 
2013-07-20 10:44:29 PM

bunner: PillsHere: bunner: And I want famous for being famous people to stop acting like every piss precious, "z0mg teh edgy!" pronouncement they make has some deep gravitas.

Wait how is Helen Mirren famous for being famous?  She's a very accomplished actress.

So was Sir Laurence Olivier.  And when they asked him to hand out advice, he said "try and remember your lines and don't trip over the furniture."  I'm very good at what I do, too.  Wanna hear my advice on child rearing?


I wasn't disputing your point that we shouldn't care what famous people say - I will agree with you there.  However, I wouldn't describe Helen Mirren as being famous for being famous - that's like comparing her to Kim Kardashian.
 
2013-07-20 10:46:16 PM

RevMercutio: In short, fark off, bunner.


I don't care if she had a three way with John Ford and Mohammed.  Her advice to turn little girl into arrogant, precocious, offensive little jerks cause "HA!" sucks canal water.  And y'all can stick your noses up her ass because she can act until your gums recede.  I'll even get you a pillow.  But good luck making me give a sh*t.  Same to ya, Cinderella.
 
2013-07-20 10:47:26 PM
bunner: quatchi: bunner: famous for being famous people

You don't know who Helen Mirren is, do you?

Yeah, an actress who thinks every time she opens her mouth, something amazing happens.  On camera, maybe.

/worked with a lot of famous people
//the arrogant pricks don't even like each other
///the nice ones pay their bills on time

images.wikia.com
 
2013-07-20 10:48:33 PM

bunner: RevMercutio: In short, fark off, bunner.

I don't care if she had a three way with John Ford and Mohammed.  Her advice to turn little girl into arrogant, precocious, offensive little jerks cause "HA!" sucks canal water.  And y'all can stick your noses up her ass because she can act until your gums recede.  I'll even get you a pillow.  But good luck making me give a sh*t.  Same to ya, Cinderella.


Once again: Mansplaining. Because the world was short on condescending twats.
 
2013-07-20 10:50:04 PM
Look.

A drummer I work with a lot was signed to Motown for five years.  Number one single.  He has a Grammy.

You want his advice on parenting?

He's got cred!  Get it?  *sigh*  I'll leave you all to dogpile me in absentia.  I think this broad likes the smell of her own piss and I don't
 
2013-07-20 10:50:42 PM
www.imfdb.org
'Fark off'
 
2013-07-20 10:50:56 PM

RevMercutio: Mansplaining.


I can make up words too, but I get paid for it and I don't think they have any deep meaning.   :  )
 
2013-07-20 10:51:29 PM

bunner: PillsHere: bunner: And I want famous for being famous people to stop acting like every piss precious, "z0mg teh edgy!" pronouncement they make has some deep gravitas.

Wait how is Helen Mirren famous for being famous?  She's a very accomplished actress.

So was Sir Laurence Olivier.  And when they asked him to hand out advice, he said "try and remember your lines and don't trip over the furniture."  I'm very good at what I do, too.  Wanna hear my advice on child rearing?


No, because you're not Helen F*cking Mirren and nobody cares what you think. Deal with it and STFU.

/might hire you to run sound at one of my gigs, though
 
2013-07-20 10:52:02 PM

bunner: RevMercutio: Mansplaining.

I can make up words too, but I get paid for it and I don't think they have any deep meaning.   :  )


Sure you do, old sport. You're so wise to the world that you didn't know who a well known actress is and you thought I created that word.
 
Displayed 50 of 215 comments

First | « | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | » | Last | Show all

View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest


This thread is closed to new comments.

Continue Farking
Submit a Link »






Report