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(C|Net)   Twitter creator suggests TOTALFACE: a fee-based, ad-less version of Facebook. Who the hell is going to pay for a premium version of a free site?   (news.cnet.com) divider line 88
    More: Interesting, TOTALFACE, Facebook, Twitter, Biz Stone  
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2013-07-20 09:14:11 PM  
My five bucks a month here isn't so I don't get ads... it's so I get more content.  And to a degree so I can read the comments (and sometimes comment) before the free-for-all that is a headline on the main page.
 
2013-07-20 09:35:12 PM  

RodneyToady: My five bucks a month here isn't so I don't get ads... it's so I get more content.  And to a degree so I can read the comments (and sometimes comment) before the free-for-all that is a headline on the main page.


Yup. Membership gives you the privelege to comment before the unwashed masses jump the velvet rope.
 
2013-07-20 10:01:27 PM  
cdn.slashgear.com
 
2013-07-20 10:23:19 PM  
I would only pay $5/month if they changed the page to "Facialbook."
 
2013-07-20 10:28:05 PM  
There are ads on Twitter and Facebook*?

/Adblock/noscript/flashblock ftw

*seriously, I had no idea how crappy FB looked until I had to log in at my Mom's house on IE
 
2013-07-20 10:31:02 PM  
There are ads on Facebook?
 
2013-07-20 10:41:16 PM  
What?
 
2013-07-20 11:00:47 PM  
 
2013-07-20 11:03:15 PM  
But removing ads on Facebook is free!

...oh yeah. Businesses have no idea how the internet (or the real world) works. I keep forgetting about that.
 
2013-07-20 11:06:31 PM  
Nice...
 
2013-07-20 11:06:51 PM  
Fakeblock
 
2013-07-20 11:09:19 PM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: RodneyToady: My five bucks a month here isn't so I don't get ads... it's so I get more content.  And to a degree so I can read the comments (and sometimes comment) before the free-for-all that is a headline on the main page.

Yup. Membership gives you the privelege to comment before the unwashed masses jump the velvet rope.


Hai guys what's happening in this thread?
Looks boring, I'll be back when things heat up.

/off to take a shower
 
2013-07-20 11:10:18 PM  

Alexei Novikov: But removing ads on Facebook is free!

...oh yeah. Businesses have no idea how the internet (or the real world) works. I keep forgetting about that.


I imagine the creator of Twitter knows something about how the internet works.
 
2013-07-20 11:12:44 PM  
So, the company which provides you a free service that you would never pay anything to use is valued at 100 billion dollars, Do any of you morons ever stop and thing how the fark that makes any farking sense? Of course not, and by all means keep sharing shiat you think anyone cares about.

IF YOU USE FACEBOOK, TWITTER, INSTAGRAM, OR ANY OTHER FREE SOCIAL MEDIA SITE: YOU ARE THE PRODUCT.
 
2013-07-20 11:14:17 PM  
it's always briefly shocking to browse the web on someone else's computer.
 
2013-07-20 11:14:33 PM  
The creator of twitter asked that? Really? Pot kettle black much?

Or maybe he's thinking of App.net and how that's exactly what they're doing to Twitter.
 
2013-07-20 11:17:07 PM  

IgG4: There are ads on Facebook?


Seriously. I'd much rather donate $5/mo to ABP. In fact, I think I'll do so now.
 
2013-07-20 11:21:13 PM  
Yes, AdBlockPlus is great. I couldn't tolerate the internet without it.
 
2013-07-20 11:24:47 PM  

Shostie: [cdn.slashgear.com image 580x214]


i.imgur.com
 
2013-07-20 11:25:15 PM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: RodneyToady: My five bucks a month here isn't so I don't get ads... it's so I get more content.  And to a degree so I can read the comments (and sometimes comment) before the free-for-all that is a headline on the main page.

Yup. Membership gives you the privelege to comment before the unwashed masses jump the velvet rope.


The aftermath of the unwashed masses is why I come to Fark. That'd be like paying extra to sit in the lobby of the movie theater for half an hour.

/got sponsored once
//meh
 
2013-07-20 11:26:28 PM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: RodneyToady: My five bucks a month here isn't so I don't get ads... it's so I get more content.  And to a degree so I can read the comments (and sometimes comment) before the free-for-all that is a headline on the main page.

Yup. Membership gives you the privelege to comment before the unwashed masses jump the velvet rope.

img818.imageshack.us
 
2013-07-20 11:42:45 PM  

red5ish: Alexei Novikov: But removing ads on Facebook is free!

...oh yeah. Businesses have no idea how the internet (or the real world) works. I keep forgetting about that.

I imagine the creator of Twitter knows something about how the internet works.

i.i.cbsi.com

when you're an "ideator" and pose as profoundly as this, you're something,  all right.
 
2013-07-20 11:43:20 PM  
TFers: does $t5 bucks a month get rid of "featured partner" (or whatever) sponsored links in the feed?  Cuz the other day I took the  Fark feeds our squirrel with revenue from ads, please whitelist us in adblock/noscript/your-ad-blocker-of-choice! (Read more) Or please consider joining TotalFark message to heart and turned off my adblocker.

I could deal with the actual banner ads, but there were so many of those stupid extra links in the feed that I got annoyed and turned it back on.

I'd pay $5/month if I could support fark while getting rid of those damned links that don't even let you comment, which is the whole point of fark links anyway.
 
2013-07-20 11:53:09 PM  

Mentalpatient87: ecmoRandomNumbers: RodneyToady: My five bucks a month here isn't so I don't get ads... it's so I get more content.  And to a degree so I can read the comments (and sometimes comment) before the free-for-all that is a headline on the main page.

Yup. Membership gives you the privelege to comment before the unwashed masses jump the velvet rope.

The aftermath of the unwashed masses is why I come to Fark. That'd be like paying extra to sit in the lobby of the movie theater for half an hour.

/got sponsored once
//meh


I have a feeling like I should feel insulted... or not...
 
2013-07-20 11:54:22 PM  
SUBBY here, though I have a facebook account, I can count the times I logged on in the past three years on four fingers. I was a Total Farker for seven years then forgot my paypal password.I know I could request a reset but for some reason haven't. But pay for Facebook? Ha!
 
2013-07-20 11:55:34 PM  

Mentalpatient87: ecmoRandomNumbers: RodneyToady: My five bucks a month here isn't so I don't get ads... it's so I get more content.  And to a degree so I can read the comments (and sometimes comment) before the free-for-all that is a headline on the main page.

Yup. Membership gives you the privelege to comment before the unwashed masses jump the velvet rope.

The aftermath of the unwashed masses is why I come to Fark. That'd be like paying extra to sit in the lobby of the movie theater for half an hour.

/got sponsored once
//meh


I had it for years, but mostly to support the site because of how much I enjoyed it. There's really no other reason to get it. The extra content is just endless repeats since lighters don't see them, stories with zero comments, and the Great TFD Circle Jerk. I'd get it again if it meant add free and it didn't go through PayPal, but only then.
 
2013-07-21 12:02:49 AM  
Because I use Ad blocking programs, I'm going to pretend I am totally unaware that there was a reason I installed ad blocking programs.

Facebook has ads?
 
2013-07-21 12:03:16 AM  
Paying for an internet forum is retarded.
 
2013-07-21 12:06:17 AM  

Funbags: So, the company which provides you a free service that you would never pay anything to use is valued at 100 billion dollars, Do any of you morons ever stop and thing how the fark that makes any farking sense? Of course not, and by all means keep sharing shiat you think anyone cares about.

IF YOU USE FACEBOOK, TWITTER, INSTAGRAM, OR ANY OTHER FREE SOCIAL MEDIA SITE: YOU ARE THE PRODUCT.


I know this will sound crazy, but I don't use any of the above mentioned services. However, why are you yelling? What, exactly, is so bad about facebook making a buck off of freely given information? It does, actually, provide a service to its "product."
 
2013-07-21 12:07:49 AM  

Relatively Obscure: Because I use Ad blocking programs, I'm going to pretend I am totally unaware that there was a reason I installed ad blocking programs.

Facebook has ads?


Hell, even that doesn't work anymore.

"John Cocktosten likes Smith's Donnybrook Blowup Dolls.  Click here to like Smith's Donnybrook Blowup Dolls."
 
2013-07-21 12:10:01 AM  
Couple of ways a site makes money.
Page Views, Click on ads and sites that leaves a nice fat tracking cookie in your browser for just visiting and teeny tiny little bugs sit on sites waiting for that bug to come along.

/Leave yourself logged into facebook while surfing and leave a nice trail of crumbs for tracking you personally.
//Google likes that system too, so better stay logged in for your google 'in email account phone' account so you can pay your keep.
///Want to stay logged into facebook and not be tracked? Use two companys browsers. One surfs while the other idles.
////I tried to feed the fark squirrel, but I see someone already offered it a chicken.
http://www.lamecam.com/fark/
i.imgur.com
 
2013-07-21 12:21:35 AM  
Did 'The Onion' buy CNet?
 
2013-07-21 12:27:02 AM  
Considering how Hulu handled their paid subscriber version (just as many ads, just a greater variety of movies and TV shows that you didn't want to watch anyways) I'm not inclined to think Facebook would handle it any better.
 
2013-07-21 12:31:08 AM  
This thread george michael.. (no, not that one. The younger one. You know, the kid with the curly hair? He was in juno? WHAT? You didn't see juno? Well I guess It was a bum premise. But I digress. He looks like the guy in 'social network'? No, didn't see that one either? I think he was on that show that netflix just tried to bring back.. THE JEFFERSONS.. no, wait, that wasn't it..)       ..approved.
 
2013-07-21 12:33:02 AM  
I haven't been able to log in to Facebook for days, I don't know why, it acts like it's down for me. But I haven't missed it.
 
2013-07-21 12:36:33 AM  
There are ads on the Intarwebs?  I haven't seen one since about 2006.
 
2013-07-21 12:49:43 AM  

bluorangefyre: There are ads on the Intarwebs?  I haven't seen one since about 2006.


Yeah, there are ads on the internet. So what? There are ads in magazines and on TV, too. When ads come on the TV I hit the mute button and get up to feed the cat, go pee or get a fresh beer. When I'm reading a magazine my eyes follow the text and look at the photos while magically filtering out the ads. Same thing when I'm looking at a web page. I don't recall the name of the psychological mechanism, but I don't really see and am not even really conscious of the ads.

Sure, I can look at ads, and do so sometimes. Same with videos. I have my laptop muted until I want to watch something, then mute it again when I'm done. In short, I've adapted, which is probably the worst news I could give Drew...sorry man.
 
2013-07-21 12:59:33 AM  
Things I don't understand about Biz Stone and Twitter (and Facebook)

1. How people use Twitter to learn about new things. 99% of my twitter stream is retweets of shiat I could not care less about often made by people I would like to follow if I could just follow their non retweets and their non bio breaks and non menu tweets.

2. Why Biz Stone needs Facebook to talk to new employees. I've never had a work related conversation on Facebook. Of what value is that? And who wants to facebook friend mostly distant co-workers.

Doesn't Biz Stone and his employees have access to
Twitter?
IM?
Google+
Email?
Wikis?
Forum software?
Issue tracking software?
Project Management Software such as Trello?

Why would you discuss work on a network meant to keep in touch with friends and families? Ugh.
 
2013-07-21 01:02:13 AM  
Oh no. Targeted advertising. I'm being raped and holocausted at the same time. Why would I want to see ads of things I'm interested in? Please stop Judas Mussolini Stalin the third.
 
2013-07-21 01:04:39 AM  

Mentalpatient87: ecmoRandomNumbers: RodneyToady: My five bucks a month here isn't so I don't get ads... it's so I get more content.  And to a degree so I can read the comments (and sometimes comment) before the free-for-all that is a headline on the main page.

Yup. Membership gives you the privelege to comment before the unwashed masses jump the velvet rope.

The aftermath of the unwashed masses is why I come to Fark. That'd be like paying extra to sit in the lobby of the movie theater for half an hour.

/got sponsored once
//meh


/favorite
 
2013-07-21 01:05:09 AM  
Total Face Palm
 
2013-07-21 01:11:59 AM  
I was thinking about something like this the other day. While I wasn't sure a fee-based model would be appropriate, I think an offshore-hosted, fully-encrypted version of Facebook would be a draw.
 
2013-07-21 01:29:18 AM  
No thanks, I'm sticking with FriendFace.
 
2013-07-21 02:06:53 AM  

Stone Meadow: bluorangefyre: There are ads on the Intarwebs?  I haven't seen one since about 2006.

Yeah, there are ads on the internet. So what? There are ads in magazines and on TV, too. When ads come on the TV I hit the mute button and get up to feed the cat, go pee or get a fresh beer. When I'm reading a magazine my eyes follow the text and look at the photos while magically filtering out the ads. Same thing when I'm looking at a web page. I don't recall the name of the psychological mechanism, but I don't really see and am not even really conscious of the ads.

Sure, I can look at ads, and do so sometimes. Same with videos. I have my laptop muted until I want to watch something, then mute it again when I'm done. In short, I've adapted, which is probably the worst news I could give Drew...sorry man.


But ads in the magazines don't shout at you in red and blue and whatever flashing color and shout LOOK AT ME.
 
2013-07-21 02:12:03 AM  

saturn badger: But ads in the magazines don't shout at you in red and blue and whatever flashing color and shout LOOK AT ME.


<blink>LOOK AT ME</blink>

The blink tag. The most hated tag of all tags. Be thankful FARK doesn't support it.

/next will be the marquee...
 
2013-07-21 02:24:07 AM  

Pincy: No thanks, I'm sticking with FriendFace.


FriendFace is just another way of shoving advertising in your face, but as long as you can tune it out, you should be okay.

/God, I'm thirsty. Where is my Cuke?
 
2013-07-21 02:42:08 AM  

wwSpoon: Pincy: No thanks, I'm sticking with FriendFace.

FriendFace is just another way of shoving advertising in your face, but as long as you can tune it out, you should be okay.

/God, I'm thirsty. Where is my Cuke?


Try asking your mom to look a little south of your belly button

/she may need a microscope
 
2013-07-21 02:46:39 AM  
Lots people with IQs less than 70 need a place to be on the internet to

/Ditch diggers etc.
//in other news ditch diggers can afford facebook
 
2013-07-21 03:03:22 AM  

johnnieconnie: There are ads on Twitter and Facebook*?

/Adblock/noscript/flashblock ftw

*seriously, I had no idea how crappy FB looked until I had to log in at my Mom's house on IE


They're ads in the newsfeed that can't be blocked via Noscript/Adblock. Although FB Purity seems to catch most and at least allow you to filter them.
 
2013-07-21 03:08:20 AM  
The fact that your competitor is forced to use your product to talk to his own employees is probably the single biggest sign that you shouldn't be listening to business ideas from said competitor.
 
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