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(Huffington Post)   Zach Snyder confirms a Superman/Batman film is in the works   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 153
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2013-07-20 08:11:52 PM  

Oldiron_79: Alright fellow comic nerds, JLA vs Avengers who wins?


Batman decides everyone is too dangerous and takes them all down. He's the last one standing. The end.
 
2013-07-20 08:14:25 PM  
Please, please, include the hoarder storyline:


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2013-07-20 08:20:49 PM  
I'm not entirely against the idea of a Batman and Superman (or even Justice League) movie. I'm against the notion that he apparently wants to use that fanfic wank-fest by Frank Miller as the source material.

Seriously, that was Twilight-level bad.
 
2013-07-20 08:21:14 PM  

Boojum2k: Mentat: It's already been established that Batman and Captain America are basically equal.

Basically, but Batman is a superior detective, and Cap is a superior warrior. Different focus.


I can't post the pic, but they are equals in combat to the point where all of their fights are draws and mentally are at the same level.
 
2013-07-20 08:26:28 PM  

Mentat: Boojum2k: Mentat: It's already been established that Batman and Captain America are basically equal.

Basically, but Batman is a superior detective, and Cap is a superior warrior. Different focus.

I can't post the pic, but they are equals in combat to the point where all of their fights are draws and mentally are at the same level.


Which was crap to keep DC fanbois happy. Batman is a badass, but Captain America is a super-soldier.
 
2013-07-20 08:29:20 PM  

Boojum2k: Mentat: Boojum2k: Mentat: It's already been established that Batman and Captain America are basically equal.

Basically, but Batman is a superior detective, and Cap is a superior warrior. Different focus.

I can't post the pic, but they are equals in combat to the point where all of their fights are draws and mentally are at the same level.

Which was crap to keep DC fanbois happy. Batman is a badass, but Captain America is a super-soldier.


You've just described Every. Batman. Story. Ever.

It's always one giant deux ex machina because the fanbase identifies with "wow, if I just invent something, it can do ANYTHING" super-power more than any other. The fact that anything comes to a draw with Batman shows remarkable restraint.
 
2013-07-20 08:29:28 PM  
what?  batman would curb stomp CA.  All CA has is a shield and batman was trained by friggen ra's al ghul and has a beltfull of weapons.
 
2013-07-20 08:34:20 PM  

Plant Rights Activist: what?  batman would curb stomp CA.  All CA has is a shield and batman was trained by friggen ra's al ghul and has a beltfull of weapons.


In a fistfight, Cap would destroy Batman. Like you said though, Batman has a lot of neat weapons at his disposal, why would he get in a fist fight with him?
 
2013-07-20 08:35:35 PM  

dehehn: Hijack: 
And I think they read that line because it's cool.  Zak Snyder likes things that are cool if you didn't notice.


It won't be the same story because they would have to give frank miller a cut, and thats not happening
 
2013-07-20 08:47:13 PM  
Awesome.
 
2013-07-20 08:48:50 PM  
They'd seriously have to de-power Superman or give Batman a Krypton-Atmosphere creating suit or something seeing as there is no Kryptonite.  Unless they're not going to go down the antagonists become uncomfortable allies route.
 
2013-07-20 08:55:04 PM  

Boojum2k: Popcorn Johnny: Flash can move at light speed, how does Iron Man or any of his weapons get close to touching him?

Flash hits Iron Man, is electrocuted and immobile. Iron Man then puts his lights out.

Or just runs some microthin cables across the battlefield and lets Flash become Flashbits.


Flash finds out he's fighting Iron Man, already knows IM is Tony Stark (public knowledge), runs over to Stark's house, vibrates through the wall, and KOs Tony while he's still in his Black-Sabbath-fueled armor-donning montage.
 
2013-07-20 08:55:07 PM  

Boojum2k: Mentat: Boojum2k: Mentat: It's already been established that Batman and Captain America are basically equal.

Basically, but Batman is a superior detective, and Cap is a superior warrior. Different focus.

I can't post the pic, but they are equals in combat to the point where all of their fights are draws and mentally are at the same level.

Which was crap to keep DC fanbois happy. Batman is a badass, but Captain America is a super-soldier.


Pretty much. Did you see what Cap did to Prometheus later in that crossover? That's what would happen to Bruce if the writers didn't have his back.
 
2013-07-20 09:00:00 PM  
Flash wouldn't fight Iron Man.  Flash would troll the Hulk until everyone else is done fighting and/or the Hulk gets tired or the Hulk begins smashing until some debris collides with Flash.
 
2013-07-20 09:06:13 PM  
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2013-07-20 09:06:27 PM  

Plant Rights Activist: Flash wouldn't fight Iron Man.  Flash would troll the Hulk until everyone else is done fighting and/or the Hulk gets tired or the Hulk begins smashing until some debris collides with Flash.


Flash would kick the shiat out of every member of the Avengers who isn't mega-powered. Cap, Black Widow, Hawkeye, etc. He could beat all three of them at the same time if they're anywhere within the same region.

DC writers have to power Flash down a LOT when he's fighting anyone, to make it interesting. If they let him go the way his powers say he should be able to, he'd be unstoppable against anyone who isn't invulnerable or close to his level of speed.
 
2013-07-20 09:10:52 PM  
ExcedrinHeadache: .

Flash would kick the shiat out of every member of the Avengers who isn't mega-powered. Cap, Black Widow, Hawkeye, etc. He could beat all three of them at the same time if they're anywhere within the same region.

DC writers have to power Flash down a LOT when he's fighting anyone, to make it interesting. If they let him go the way his powers say he should be able to, he'd be unstoppable against anyone who isn't invulnerable or close to his level of speed.

(in best Scruffy voice) Second.
 
2013-07-20 09:12:04 PM  

ExcedrinHeadache: Plant Rights Activist: Flash wouldn't fight Iron Man.  Flash would troll the Hulk until everyone else is done fighting and/or the Hulk gets tired or the Hulk begins smashing until some debris collides with Flash.

Flash would kick the shiat out of every member of the Avengers who isn't mega-powered. Cap, Black Widow, Hawkeye, etc. He could beat all three of them at the same time if they're anywhere within the same region.

DC writers have to power Flash down a LOT when he's fighting anyone, to make it interesting. If they let him go the way his powers say he should be able to, he'd be unstoppable against anyone who isn't invulnerable or close to his level of speed.


There's no Speed Force in the Marvel Universe, so Flash would end up a greasy smear on Hulk's foot.
 
2013-07-20 09:20:58 PM  
Hopefully by a different, decent director.
 
2013-07-20 09:20:58 PM  
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2013-07-20 09:24:38 PM  
This movie cannot work.  Any villain that would be a reasonable threat to Superman would destroy Batman within a few moments.  Any villain that's a reasonable threat to Batman would be destroyed by Superman within moments.

For all its quirky weirdness, the Avengers movie found that perfect balance.  Their strongest hitters are still vulnerable to all manner of threats that the others can handle.  No single player on the team will carry the team.  Even the Hulk and/or Thor can and do fall to the same level of threat that would threaten Iron Man and/or Captain America.

In any Justice League movie, you're either going to have to have Superman severely downgraded in terms of power, or it's going to be a never-ending stream of excuses why Superman doesn't just blow them up with his heat vision from orbit.
 
2013-07-20 09:24:48 PM  
Sucks that Snyder is a hack.  DC should take a more drawn out thoughtful approach instead of trying to keep up with Marvel movies (which are bound to over saturate themselves in the next couple years).

Also, Batman has kicked Superman's ass every time they've fought.  And he constantly punks him out in the JLA.  Because he's the God Damn Batman!
 
2013-07-20 09:25:07 PM  

Boojum2k: Mentat: Boojum2k: Mentat: It's already been established that Batman and Captain America are basically equal.

Basically, but Batman is a superior detective, and Cap is a superior warrior. Different focus.

I can't post the pic, but they are equals in combat to the point where all of their fights are draws and mentally are at the same level.

Which was crap to keep DC fanbois happy. Batman is a badass, but Captain America is a super-soldier.


Batman and Captain America are both supposed to represent the peak of human potential.  The only difference is that Batman reached that point naturally.
 
2013-07-20 09:27:25 PM  

Mentat: Boojum2k: Mentat: Boojum2k: Mentat: It's already been established that Batman and Captain America are basically equal.

Basically, but Batman is a superior detective, and Cap is a superior warrior. Different focus.

I can't post the pic, but they are equals in combat to the point where all of their fights are draws and mentally are at the same level.

Which was crap to keep DC fanbois happy. Batman is a badass, but Captain America is a super-soldier.

Batman and Captain America are both supposed to represent the peak of human potential.  The only difference is that Batman reached that point naturally.


I know that comic.  It basically had Batman admitting that Cap would beat him, but it would take a long long time.
 
2013-07-20 09:29:04 PM  

Mentat: Batman and Captain America are both supposed to represent the peak of human potential.


Except Cap doesn't age either, and is proven superior in many ways to the best possible natural training. Also, he's an actual soldier, who has fought through most of a major war.
 
2013-07-20 09:31:25 PM  
the line, "I'm the goddamn Batman" is the worst thing to have ever happened to that character.

/besides his parents being murdered
 
2013-07-20 09:32:54 PM  
Not a DC reader, but if the Flash can reach the speed of light, the resulting increase to infinite mass would make for a very short fight.
 
Slu
2013-07-20 09:34:12 PM  

Blame Hofmann: More cape movies?

How exciting.  People will watch anything.


Seriously.  I am not trying to troll here or anything, but I can't believe people aren't getting tired of these superhero movies.  I know I am.  Or perhaps I am just getting old.
 
2013-07-20 09:38:50 PM  
Haven't they made good DC animated movies recently? (Saw a Justice League movie and liked it), why do they have such problems making live-action?
 
2013-07-20 09:49:54 PM  
"Flash finds out he's fighting Iron Man, already knows IM is Tony Stark (public knowledge), runs over to Stark's house,"

Wrong wrong wrong, there's no way the DC heroes would know anything that is public knowledge in the Marvel Universe or vice versa unless something happened pre-fight to educate them.
Same thing goes for Iron Man knowing about kryptonite, that doesn't even exist in the Marvel Universe.
Put me down for the Wonder Woman Vs Captain (Ms.) Marvel sweaty grab and grapple fest video, however.
/I may buy a 2nd copy just in case.
 
2013-07-20 10:03:56 PM  
oi41.tinypic.com
 
2013-07-20 10:05:06 PM  
If you want to do it right...

Superman is WATSON
 
2013-07-20 10:07:21 PM  

Slu: but I can't believe people aren't getting tired of these superhero movies.  I know I am.  Or perhaps I am just getting old.


They've only really started since 2000. I mean sure there were Superman movies and the Batman  movie in 1989 but they didn't really start firing comic book movies at us until after the X-Men
 
2013-07-20 10:07:54 PM  

OhioUGrad: Haven't they made good DC animated movies recently? (Saw a Justice League movie and liked it), why do they have such problems making live-action?


1. Animated movies don't need to have every character interact and takeup screentime (like actors want). So you can actually have something like Batman going off to figure out who the bad guy is followed by Superman taking down said bad guy work.

2. Blatant inconsistencies in terms of basic physics, power levels, etc. are much more forgivable in an animated framework.
 
2013-07-20 10:12:39 PM  

Mad_Radhu: [blogs.ocweekly.com image 550x716]
Spoiler alert. It's actually a love story.


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www.troll.me
 
2013-07-20 10:48:59 PM  
Hulk would be the last one standing, therefore The Avengers win.
 
2013-07-20 10:55:50 PM  
I Am Legend was right!
 
2013-07-20 10:57:22 PM  
Batman and Superman merge into....

BATER-MAN

Rated NC-17
'coming' to theaters near you, Summer 2014
 
2013-07-20 11:01:05 PM  
Superman is the laziest concept for a super hero ever... Just stay away from green rocks, and you win... Lame...
 
2013-07-20 11:06:50 PM  
Mentat:

Batman and Captain America are both supposed to represent the peak of human potential.  The only difference is that Batman reached that point naturally.

No. Cap. has reached the peak of human potential and is just shy of being considered super-human. He's not just stronger than Batman, he's A LOT stronger. He's not just faster than Batman, he's A LOT faster than Batman. The same goes for his healing, agility, healing etc. abilities. That writers have written them to a draw was to keep fans happy. But Cap. would destroy Batman.

Wanna really enjoy irritating nerd? Tell them how badly and quickly Spider-Man would really beat Wolverine.
 
2013-07-20 11:10:46 PM  

chewielouie: Mentat:

Batman and Captain America are both supposed to represent the peak of human potential.  The only difference is that Batman reached that point naturally.

No. Cap. has reached the peak of human potential and is just shy of being considered super-human. He's not just stronger than Batman, he's A LOT stronger. He's not just faster than Batman, he's A LOT faster than Batman. The same goes for his healing, agility, healing etc. abilities. That writers have written them to a draw was to keep fans happy. But Cap. would destroy Batman.

Wanna really enjoy irritating nerd? Tell them how badly and quickly Spider-Man would really beat Wolverine.


Not a nerd, but tell me anyway.
 
2013-07-20 11:18:14 PM  

chewielouie: Wanna really enjoy irritating nerd? Tell them how badly and quickly Spider-Man would really beat Wolverine.


Oh, do tell!

/lemme get my popcorn
 
2013-07-20 11:18:31 PM  
If Supes is under the influence of Red K and Batman and the rest of the JLA as well as Lex Luthorhave to stop him from destroying Metropolis .. that'd be an epic movie
 
2013-07-20 11:26:43 PM  

Oldiron_79: Popcorn Johnny: Oldiron_79: Alright fellow comic nerds, JLA vs Avengers who wins?

Superman and the Hulk cancel each other out. After that, JL has Batman, Flash and Green Lantern. They'd totally own the shiat out of Iron Man, Thor and Captain America.

My thoughts are along these lines, also Wonderwoman would PWN the shiat out of Black widow for your token chick fight


Honestly, Batman and Iron Man would be the most ideal match as they are quite similar heroes. Both super wealthy businessmen who moonlight as super heroes with all sorts of gadgetry and technology. Even if you're going with the Nolan Batman going against Tony Stark, if Bruce can buy enough time for Lucius Fox to design something for Batman to use against Iron Man, it would make an interesting fight.

Since Thor kind of uses "magical" powers (thereby making Superman ineffective), the only two Justice League members who could take him on convincingly would be Wonder Woman and/or Hawkgirl. Green Lantern would pummel Captain America and the Flash would own Hawkeye as Martian Manhunter manhandles Black Widow. All the while Superman would be battling it out with Hulk.

And even if Iron Man defeats Batman, Green Lantern (seriously, Captain America shouldn't take THAT long for GL to defeat) could easily disassemble him.

I'm doing stream of consciousness ranting, but in the end I think Tony Stark and Bruce Wayne would be the key factors in this fight as they're both the geniuses of their respective groups. Both would analyze the other team's strengths and weaknesses and design technology accordingly (well, Lucius Fox would for Bruce though TDKR alludes to Bruce not being unsavvy as he repaired the autopilot for The Bat and in TDK Bruce applied Fox's cell phone sonar tech on a broad scale. TAS Bruce Wayne, obviously, would come up with stuff on his own).

Also note that the leadership of both teams are different. In battle, Captain America is the clear leader of The Avengers, both as the moral force and tactician. With Justice League, the leadership is divided. Superman is the clear inspirational and moral leader of the League, while Batman is the tactician. How this would affect the outcome would be interesting.

Either way, Avengers vs. Justice League would be an exciting fight, but because, I believe, there is a major gap in terms of pure firepower (Justice League has Superman, Wonder Woman, Hawkgirl, Green Lantern, The Flash, and Martian Manhunter in the superpower category compared to Avengers having Hulk, Iron Man, Thor, and Captain America. That's 6 - 4.) that is clearly on the side of the Justice League. So, in terms of just pure firepower, advantage Justice League. What would make the difference is the excellence of execution of both the firepower and skill both teams have, which would fall to the leadership of Captain America and Batman, and potentially Iron Man as well (since Tony Stark is a genius, but in the Avengers movie he didn't really show any tactical leadership in the film). This would also depend on how well both teams work together, which would largely depend on the inspirational leadership of both teams (Captain America for Avengers, Superman for Justice League).

/I nerd out way too much
 
2013-07-20 11:31:21 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: Boojum2k: Flash can't hurt Iron Man at all. He's fast, not super strong, and the IM armor deflects tank shells without damage. Also, computer aided targeting evens the score a good bit.

Flash can move at light speed, how does Iron Man or any of his weapons get close to touching him?


Just wait to fight on a rainy day...Swiss cheese Flash!
 
2013-07-20 11:39:46 PM  

chewielouie:


Wanna really enjoy irritating nerd? Tell them how badly and quickly Spider-Man would really beat Wolverine.


Personally I prefer Death Star vs Enterprise type debates
 
2013-07-20 11:40:16 PM  
DC crushes Marvel. End of discussion. But Marvel has better movies.
 
2013-07-20 11:43:56 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: Boojum2k: Flash can't hurt Iron Man at all. He's fast, not super strong, and the IM armor deflects tank shells without damage. Also, computer aided targeting evens the score a good bit.

Flash can move at light speed, how does Iron Man or any of his weapons get close to touching him?


I dunno, how are his enemies a talking gorilla, a guy with boomerangs,a guy with a freeze gun, and prankster?
 
2013-07-20 11:45:45 PM  

maelstrom0370: chewielouie: Wanna really enjoy irritating nerd? Tell them how badly and quickly Spider-Man would really beat Wolverine.

Oh, do tell!

/lemme get my popcorn


With a bro-five after mentioning how awesome redheads are in the sack
 
2013-07-20 11:47:48 PM  
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It's actually kind of a boring movie. They just sit around drinking coffee and swapping stories.
 
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