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2013-07-20 05:30:11 PM
Where will it play? Most theaters won't show NC-17/XX movies.
 
2013-07-20 05:47:36 PM
Good. Zack Snyder is in no way entering M Night Shymalan kind of territory at all. Everyone I know basically thinks 'I hate good movies but I love slow motion and noiZe, give me more Zach Snyder and make sure he's directing from the EDGE!!!'

I blame Zac Snider for me liking 'Identity Thief'. It was a terrible movIe, but at least it wasn't 'artistically imagined from the mind of__________'
 
2013-07-20 05:52:19 PM
 
2013-07-20 05:52:57 PM
www.cinemasoldier.com

there it is.
/hotlink
//duh
 
2013-07-20 06:05:05 PM
It's finally happening!
theworldofm.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-07-20 06:15:56 PM
I still want to see a Mr. Plow movie.
 
2013-07-20 06:27:55 PM
This could be very good news or it could be really, really bad news.

Me, I'ma reserve serious judgement until I see some actual footage.

Pencil me as "cautiously optimistic" at present.
 
2013-07-20 06:32:52 PM
How about just one decent DC comic adaptation without some douchebag coming in to destroy the source material with his "vision"? It's like they're looking at Marvel and saying 'Us too!' but not realizing that Marvel, for all the errors here and there, generally stay within the bounds of their comic counterparts.

The closest anyone has gotten is Burton and Keaton with Batman and Batman Returns, which isn't saying too much as they were a bit campy themselves. The Batman presented in Nolans universe cannot exist within the realm of an extended DC universe. Snyders Superman wasn't great, but it really isn't hard to look better than Superman Returns.

The worst part is they have the best source material for films right in front of them, but ignore it. You take Bruce Timm's universe and swap out animated characters with real people. There, that's your hit film series.
 
2013-07-20 06:33:43 PM
Spoiler Alert

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2013-07-20 06:47:15 PM
please please please please
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2013-07-20 06:48:30 PM

nathanjr: Spoiler Alert

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Pretty much, although all of the "Batman has plans in case Superman turns evil" ideas fail if Superman doesn't tell Batman "Now I'm evil" but instead demonstrates it by turning Wayne Manor and the Batcave into lava while hanging on the edge of space soaking in sunlight.
 
2013-07-20 06:49:16 PM
Can't wait for The Flash movie
 
2013-07-20 06:54:44 PM

ThatDarkFellow: How about just one decent DC comic adaptation without some douchebag coming in to destroy the source material with his "vision"? It's like they're looking at Marvel and saying 'Us too!' but not realizing that Marvel, for all the errors here and there, generally stay within the bounds of their comic counterparts.

The closest anyone has gotten is Burton and Keaton with Batman and Batman Returns, which isn't saying too much as they were a bit campy themselves. The Batman presented in Nolans universe cannot exist within the realm of an extended DC universe. Snyders Superman wasn't great, but it really isn't hard to look better than Superman Returns.

The worst part is they have the best source material for films right in front of them, but ignore it. You take Bruce Timm's universe and swap out animated characters with real people. There, that's your hit film series.


OR, start from scratch.

Lotta good reference material, why not just make a good movie?

My girlfriend doesn't have 30+ years of Marvel/DC history like I do buy she loved Justice League: Doom and Avengers on Netflix.

Just make a good goddamned movie and no one needs an origin movie or Ryan Reynolds.

I would go to a Red Tornado, Cyborg or X-Factor movie in a second if delt with the right people. Nothing involving Cable, cause why?!
 
2013-07-20 06:55:02 PM

nathanjr: Spoiler Alert

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Yeah, prolly, but the Batman Superman fight in Frank Miller's BTDKR was still epic.
 
2013-07-20 06:57:23 PM
Hardly a surprise really. They saw the money The Avengers took and want the same.

But Marvel took years to set up the Avengers. Will DC have the patience to do the same or just throw together a batman?superman movie?
 
2013-07-20 06:58:32 PM

Flint Ironstag: just throw together a batman?superman movie?


That's what they are doing, this is the Man of Steel sequel they are talking about.
 
2013-07-20 07:01:22 PM
Every last one of you motherf*ckers is going to end up seeing it just like me. Stop your biatching.
 
2013-07-20 07:05:45 PM

Boojum2k: That's what they are doing, this is the Man of Steel sequel they are talking about.


No, I think they're making a Man of Steel sequel and THEN this.

What they should do (and I say it in EVERY Superman thread now) is film "Injustice"

It would logically for the Justice League without the need for each one to have their own movies, and it's a great story.

They WON'T make it because they won't make Superman the villain, but they SHOULD
 
2013-07-20 07:07:31 PM
Can we get someone to direct this movie who doesn't think his job is to make a two-hour video game cut scene?
 
2013-07-20 07:08:18 PM

buntz: I think they're making a Man of Steel sequel and THEN this.


No, Snyder said Batman would be in the sequel.
 
2013-07-20 07:08:31 PM
I've only seen Flash as a sidekick in JL and there didn't seem to be much to him.  Worked great as a comic foil and moral boost but the only interesting thing about him is his greatest fear.  And his power was pretty inconsistent it varied  from "will trip if you put something in his path" to "can move his molecules around so fast he can walk through walls"

Bats and Sups I think would only be good if they fight each other.  Bats has never been a team player even on JL.
 
2013-07-20 07:11:30 PM
nathanjr: Spoiler Alert

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Yeah with the abilities they both have in the comics supes could rips the bats head off and skull fark his bloody severed head before the bat could so much as flench unless Kryptonite was somehow in play.

Of course the writers would make some full retard way for the bat to win without kryptonite because he's THE GODDAMN BATMAN.
 
2013-07-20 07:18:18 PM
If it's anything like that POS Justice League: Flashpoint, count me out.
Good gosh what a turd.
 
2013-07-20 07:18:23 PM
blogs.ocweekly.com
Spoiler alert. It's actually a love story.
 
2013-07-20 07:21:50 PM

Roook: Can't wait for The Flash movie


And there it goes.

Want to see it again?

/he's fast, get it?
 
2013-07-20 07:28:54 PM
Alright fellow comic nerds, JLA vs Avengers who wins?
 
2013-07-20 07:31:04 PM

Oldiron_79: Alright fellow comic nerds, JLA vs Avengers who wins?


Avengers. They have a Hulk.

/Puny Kryptonian
 
2013-07-20 07:31:16 PM

mcmnky: Roook: Can't wait for The Flash movie

And there it goes.

Want to see it again?

/he's fast, get it?


Settle Down Sheldon
 
2013-07-20 07:34:41 PM
Superman and Batman will team-up

brought actor Harry Lennix, who co-starred in the Superman film, out to read a section of Frank Miller's "The Dark Knight Returns"


I wouldn't really call Batman kicking Supe's ass a "team-up".
 
2013-07-20 07:34:53 PM

Oldiron_79: Alright fellow comic nerds, JLA vs Avengers who wins?


Superman and the Hulk cancel each other out. After that, JL has Batman, Flash and Green Lantern. They'd totally own the shiat out of Iron Man, Thor and Captain America.
 
2013-07-20 07:36:19 PM

Popcorn Johnny: After that, JL has Batman, Flash and Green Lantern. They'd totally own the shiat out of Iron Man, Thor and Captain America.


Well, Flash and Green Lantern have a fighting chance at least. Batman gets his ass kicked by Captain America. He tries Iron Man or Thor, he's toast that much faster.
 
2013-07-20 07:39:10 PM
Popcorn Johnny: Oldiron_79: Alright fellow comic nerds, JLA vs Avengers who wins?

Superman and the Hulk cancel each other out. After that, JL has Batman, Flash and Green Lantern. They'd totally own the shiat out of Iron Man, Thor and Captain America.


My thoughts are along these lines, also Wonderwoman would PWN the shiat out of Black widow for your token chick fight
 
2013-07-20 07:40:25 PM

Boojum2k: Well, Flash and Green Lantern have a fighting chance at least. Batman gets his ass kicked by Captain America. He tries Iron Man or Thor, he's toast that much faster.


Batman takes out Captain America
Flash takes out Iron Man
Green Lantern takes out Thor
 
2013-07-20 07:42:51 PM
problem with JL v. Avengers is Iron Man would just kryptonite Superman right off the bat since he's smart and does technology and stuff.  None of the Marvel lineup really have any weakness they can exploit and Superman is really the only heavy hitter JL has.
 
2013-07-20 07:44:04 PM

Popcorn Johnny: Batman takes out Captain America


In his wet dreams, maybe. In a fight, never.

Flash can't hurt Iron Man at all. He's fast, not super strong, and the IM armor deflects tank shells without damage. Also, computer aided targeting evens the score a good bit.

Green Lantern might hold off Thor for a while. Then Thor stops holding back.

Wonder Woman is much more a deciding factor, she can take most of the Avengers, except the Hulk.
 
2013-07-20 07:44:56 PM

Plant Rights Activist: problem with JL v. Avengers is Iron Man would just kryptonite Superman right off the bat since he's smart and does technology and stuff.  None of the Marvel lineup really have any weakness they can exploit and Superman is really the only heavy hitter JL has.


Or Thor thinks Superman looks tough and throws Mjolnir at him. And through him. And gets super-gibs on his hand when Mjolnir returns.
 
2013-07-20 07:45:43 PM
And I didn't even include Martian Manhunter, He'd own the rest of the Avengers on his own while Supes and Hulk were wrecking shiat. The rest of the JLA could chill and watch from the sidelines.
 
2013-07-20 07:46:19 PM
Another movie based on comic books. Must be profitable.
 
2013-07-20 07:46:20 PM

ThatDarkFellow: How about just one decent DC comic adaptation without some douchebag coming in to destroy the source material with his "vision"? It's like they're looking at Marvel and saying 'Us too!' but not realizing that Marvel, for all the errors here and there, generally stay within the bounds of their comic counterparts.

The closest anyone has gotten is Burton and Keaton with Batman and Batman Returns, which isn't saying too much as they were a bit campy themselves. The Batman presented in Nolans universe cannot exist within the realm of an extended DC universe. Snyders Superman wasn't great, but it really isn't hard to look better than Superman Returns.


I strongly agree with this statement. I absolutely love the Nolan films and was there at the midnight showings for all 3. That said, and as you said, and as Nolan himself has said, there's no room for any other super-powered heroes in that universe.

My concern is the "let's do what Marvel's done" attitude. Thor turned out to be pretty fun. Captain America was ok. Iron Man was fun. They laid a great foundation. And they played it safe. I can't stress that enough. Then Zack Snyder comes along and I just picture WB or DC going, "Yeah we could play it safe, but let's push the boundaries. Let's get edgy." And then you end up with Supes snapping Zod's neck to save a single family while countless thousands DIAF.

Also WTF was Snyder doing having Harry Lennix read out a part of Frank Miller's book and then immediately backtrack by saying, "We're not adapting this comic book." Uh, OK. Is that the ONLY passage you could think of that involved the two of them in one scene? It's a film - they're not going to get along. They never have. But unless you're going to have them at each other's throats, maybe that's not the best material to give a shout-out to.
 
2013-07-20 07:51:28 PM
A big factor would be whether Aquaman is comic book Aquaman (like superman strong and  indistructable just control of sea creatures instead of heat vision and flight) or is he Justice Friends Aquaman where out of the water you or me could kick his ass.
 
2013-07-20 07:51:51 PM
It always amuses me that DC can hit the nail on the head with their cartoons but can't even find the damn ballpark with the movies.  On the other hand, Batman: TAS ran for how many years and still spews out how much merchandise?  I think DC won overall in that game.

/I love the DC cartoons so much
 
2013-07-20 07:52:13 PM

Boojum2k: Flash can't hurt Iron Man at all. He's fast, not super strong, and the IM armor deflects tank shells without damage. Also, computer aided targeting evens the score a good bit.


Flash can move at light speed, how does Iron Man or any of his weapons get close to touching him?
 
2013-07-20 07:53:21 PM

Popcorn Johnny: Oldiron_79: Alright fellow comic nerds, JLA vs Avengers who wins?

Superman and the Hulk cancel each other out. After that, JL has Batman, Flash and Green Lantern. They'd totally own the shiat out of Iron Man, Thor and Captain America.


It's already been established that Batman and Captain America are basically equal.
 
2013-07-20 07:54:15 PM

Popcorn Johnny: Flash can move at light speed, how does Iron Man or any of his weapons get close to touching him?


Flash hits Iron Man, is electrocuted and immobile. Iron Man then puts his lights out.

Or just runs some microthin cables across the battlefield and lets Flash become Flashbits.
 
2013-07-20 07:55:26 PM

Mentat: It's already been established that Batman and Captain America are basically equal.


Basically, but Batman is a superior detective, and Cap is a superior warrior. Different focus.
 
2013-07-20 07:58:32 PM

DaStompa: please please please please
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Yes, obviously they're going to reboot Batman when he's 55.
 
2013-07-20 08:00:58 PM

Mentat: Popcorn Johnny: Oldiron_79: Alright fellow comic nerds, JLA vs Avengers who wins?

Superman and the Hulk cancel each other out. After that, JL has Batman, Flash and Green Lantern. They'd totally own the shiat out of Iron Man, Thor and Captain America.

It's already been established that Batman and Captain America are basically equal.


Don't Wonder Woman and Ms. Marvel basically cancel out as well (or are we only using movie Avengers?)
 
2013-07-20 08:04:20 PM

Hijack: ThatDarkFellow: 

Also WTF was Snyder doing having Harry Lennix read out a part of Frank Miller's book and then immediately backtrack by saying, "We're not adapting this comic book." Uh, OK. Is that the ONLY passage you could think of that involved the two of them in one scene? It's a film - they're not going to get along. They never have. But unless you're going to have them at each other's throats, maybe that's not the best material to give a shout-out to.


Of course they're going to be at each others throats.  That's the point of putting them in comics together.

And I think they read that line because it's cool.  Zak Snyder likes things that are cool if you didn't notice.
 
2013-07-20 08:05:19 PM
static.comicvine.com

Vibrating until you're intangible would probably be able to beat almost anyone.
 
2013-07-20 08:10:24 PM
More cape movies?

How exciting.  People will watch anything.
 
2013-07-20 08:11:52 PM

Oldiron_79: Alright fellow comic nerds, JLA vs Avengers who wins?


Batman decides everyone is too dangerous and takes them all down. He's the last one standing. The end.
 
2013-07-20 08:14:25 PM
Please, please, include the hoarder storyline:


i.imgur.com

i.imgur.com
 
2013-07-20 08:20:49 PM
I'm not entirely against the idea of a Batman and Superman (or even Justice League) movie. I'm against the notion that he apparently wants to use that fanfic wank-fest by Frank Miller as the source material.

Seriously, that was Twilight-level bad.
 
2013-07-20 08:21:14 PM

Boojum2k: Mentat: It's already been established that Batman and Captain America are basically equal.

Basically, but Batman is a superior detective, and Cap is a superior warrior. Different focus.


I can't post the pic, but they are equals in combat to the point where all of their fights are draws and mentally are at the same level.
 
2013-07-20 08:26:28 PM

Mentat: Boojum2k: Mentat: It's already been established that Batman and Captain America are basically equal.

Basically, but Batman is a superior detective, and Cap is a superior warrior. Different focus.

I can't post the pic, but they are equals in combat to the point where all of their fights are draws and mentally are at the same level.


Which was crap to keep DC fanbois happy. Batman is a badass, but Captain America is a super-soldier.
 
2013-07-20 08:29:20 PM

Boojum2k: Mentat: Boojum2k: Mentat: It's already been established that Batman and Captain America are basically equal.

Basically, but Batman is a superior detective, and Cap is a superior warrior. Different focus.

I can't post the pic, but they are equals in combat to the point where all of their fights are draws and mentally are at the same level.

Which was crap to keep DC fanbois happy. Batman is a badass, but Captain America is a super-soldier.


You've just described Every. Batman. Story. Ever.

It's always one giant deux ex machina because the fanbase identifies with "wow, if I just invent something, it can do ANYTHING" super-power more than any other. The fact that anything comes to a draw with Batman shows remarkable restraint.
 
2013-07-20 08:29:28 PM
what?  batman would curb stomp CA.  All CA has is a shield and batman was trained by friggen ra's al ghul and has a beltfull of weapons.
 
2013-07-20 08:34:20 PM

Plant Rights Activist: what?  batman would curb stomp CA.  All CA has is a shield and batman was trained by friggen ra's al ghul and has a beltfull of weapons.


In a fistfight, Cap would destroy Batman. Like you said though, Batman has a lot of neat weapons at his disposal, why would he get in a fist fight with him?
 
2013-07-20 08:35:35 PM

dehehn: Hijack: 
And I think they read that line because it's cool.  Zak Snyder likes things that are cool if you didn't notice.


It won't be the same story because they would have to give frank miller a cut, and thats not happening
 
2013-07-20 08:47:13 PM
Awesome.
 
2013-07-20 08:48:50 PM
They'd seriously have to de-power Superman or give Batman a Krypton-Atmosphere creating suit or something seeing as there is no Kryptonite.  Unless they're not going to go down the antagonists become uncomfortable allies route.
 
2013-07-20 08:55:04 PM

Boojum2k: Popcorn Johnny: Flash can move at light speed, how does Iron Man or any of his weapons get close to touching him?

Flash hits Iron Man, is electrocuted and immobile. Iron Man then puts his lights out.

Or just runs some microthin cables across the battlefield and lets Flash become Flashbits.


Flash finds out he's fighting Iron Man, already knows IM is Tony Stark (public knowledge), runs over to Stark's house, vibrates through the wall, and KOs Tony while he's still in his Black-Sabbath-fueled armor-donning montage.
 
2013-07-20 08:55:07 PM

Boojum2k: Mentat: Boojum2k: Mentat: It's already been established that Batman and Captain America are basically equal.

Basically, but Batman is a superior detective, and Cap is a superior warrior. Different focus.

I can't post the pic, but they are equals in combat to the point where all of their fights are draws and mentally are at the same level.

Which was crap to keep DC fanbois happy. Batman is a badass, but Captain America is a super-soldier.


Pretty much. Did you see what Cap did to Prometheus later in that crossover? That's what would happen to Bruce if the writers didn't have his back.
 
2013-07-20 09:00:00 PM
Flash wouldn't fight Iron Man.  Flash would troll the Hulk until everyone else is done fighting and/or the Hulk gets tired or the Hulk begins smashing until some debris collides with Flash.
 
2013-07-20 09:06:13 PM
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2013-07-20 09:06:27 PM

Plant Rights Activist: Flash wouldn't fight Iron Man.  Flash would troll the Hulk until everyone else is done fighting and/or the Hulk gets tired or the Hulk begins smashing until some debris collides with Flash.


Flash would kick the shiat out of every member of the Avengers who isn't mega-powered. Cap, Black Widow, Hawkeye, etc. He could beat all three of them at the same time if they're anywhere within the same region.

DC writers have to power Flash down a LOT when he's fighting anyone, to make it interesting. If they let him go the way his powers say he should be able to, he'd be unstoppable against anyone who isn't invulnerable or close to his level of speed.
 
2013-07-20 09:10:52 PM
ExcedrinHeadache: .

Flash would kick the shiat out of every member of the Avengers who isn't mega-powered. Cap, Black Widow, Hawkeye, etc. He could beat all three of them at the same time if they're anywhere within the same region.

DC writers have to power Flash down a LOT when he's fighting anyone, to make it interesting. If they let him go the way his powers say he should be able to, he'd be unstoppable against anyone who isn't invulnerable or close to his level of speed.

(in best Scruffy voice) Second.
 
2013-07-20 09:12:04 PM

ExcedrinHeadache: Plant Rights Activist: Flash wouldn't fight Iron Man.  Flash would troll the Hulk until everyone else is done fighting and/or the Hulk gets tired or the Hulk begins smashing until some debris collides with Flash.

Flash would kick the shiat out of every member of the Avengers who isn't mega-powered. Cap, Black Widow, Hawkeye, etc. He could beat all three of them at the same time if they're anywhere within the same region.

DC writers have to power Flash down a LOT when he's fighting anyone, to make it interesting. If they let him go the way his powers say he should be able to, he'd be unstoppable against anyone who isn't invulnerable or close to his level of speed.


There's no Speed Force in the Marvel Universe, so Flash would end up a greasy smear on Hulk's foot.
 
2013-07-20 09:20:58 PM
Hopefully by a different, decent director.
 
2013-07-20 09:20:58 PM
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2013-07-20 09:24:38 PM
This movie cannot work.  Any villain that would be a reasonable threat to Superman would destroy Batman within a few moments.  Any villain that's a reasonable threat to Batman would be destroyed by Superman within moments.

For all its quirky weirdness, the Avengers movie found that perfect balance.  Their strongest hitters are still vulnerable to all manner of threats that the others can handle.  No single player on the team will carry the team.  Even the Hulk and/or Thor can and do fall to the same level of threat that would threaten Iron Man and/or Captain America.

In any Justice League movie, you're either going to have to have Superman severely downgraded in terms of power, or it's going to be a never-ending stream of excuses why Superman doesn't just blow them up with his heat vision from orbit.
 
2013-07-20 09:24:48 PM
Sucks that Snyder is a hack.  DC should take a more drawn out thoughtful approach instead of trying to keep up with Marvel movies (which are bound to over saturate themselves in the next couple years).

Also, Batman has kicked Superman's ass every time they've fought.  And he constantly punks him out in the JLA.  Because he's the God Damn Batman!
 
2013-07-20 09:25:07 PM

Boojum2k: Mentat: Boojum2k: Mentat: It's already been established that Batman and Captain America are basically equal.

Basically, but Batman is a superior detective, and Cap is a superior warrior. Different focus.

I can't post the pic, but they are equals in combat to the point where all of their fights are draws and mentally are at the same level.

Which was crap to keep DC fanbois happy. Batman is a badass, but Captain America is a super-soldier.


Batman and Captain America are both supposed to represent the peak of human potential.  The only difference is that Batman reached that point naturally.
 
2013-07-20 09:27:25 PM

Mentat: Boojum2k: Mentat: Boojum2k: Mentat: It's already been established that Batman and Captain America are basically equal.

Basically, but Batman is a superior detective, and Cap is a superior warrior. Different focus.

I can't post the pic, but they are equals in combat to the point where all of their fights are draws and mentally are at the same level.

Which was crap to keep DC fanbois happy. Batman is a badass, but Captain America is a super-soldier.

Batman and Captain America are both supposed to represent the peak of human potential.  The only difference is that Batman reached that point naturally.


I know that comic.  It basically had Batman admitting that Cap would beat him, but it would take a long long time.
 
2013-07-20 09:29:04 PM

Mentat: Batman and Captain America are both supposed to represent the peak of human potential.


Except Cap doesn't age either, and is proven superior in many ways to the best possible natural training. Also, he's an actual soldier, who has fought through most of a major war.
 
2013-07-20 09:31:25 PM
the line, "I'm the goddamn Batman" is the worst thing to have ever happened to that character.

/besides his parents being murdered
 
2013-07-20 09:32:54 PM
Not a DC reader, but if the Flash can reach the speed of light, the resulting increase to infinite mass would make for a very short fight.
 
Slu
2013-07-20 09:34:12 PM

Blame Hofmann: More cape movies?

How exciting.  People will watch anything.


Seriously.  I am not trying to troll here or anything, but I can't believe people aren't getting tired of these superhero movies.  I know I am.  Or perhaps I am just getting old.
 
2013-07-20 09:38:50 PM
Haven't they made good DC animated movies recently? (Saw a Justice League movie and liked it), why do they have such problems making live-action?
 
2013-07-20 09:49:54 PM
"Flash finds out he's fighting Iron Man, already knows IM is Tony Stark (public knowledge), runs over to Stark's house,"

Wrong wrong wrong, there's no way the DC heroes would know anything that is public knowledge in the Marvel Universe or vice versa unless something happened pre-fight to educate them.
Same thing goes for Iron Man knowing about kryptonite, that doesn't even exist in the Marvel Universe.
Put me down for the Wonder Woman Vs Captain (Ms.) Marvel sweaty grab and grapple fest video, however.
/I may buy a 2nd copy just in case.
 
2013-07-20 10:03:56 PM
oi41.tinypic.com
 
2013-07-20 10:05:06 PM
If you want to do it right...

Superman is WATSON
 
2013-07-20 10:07:21 PM

Slu: but I can't believe people aren't getting tired of these superhero movies.  I know I am.  Or perhaps I am just getting old.


They've only really started since 2000. I mean sure there were Superman movies and the Batman  movie in 1989 but they didn't really start firing comic book movies at us until after the X-Men
 
2013-07-20 10:07:54 PM

OhioUGrad: Haven't they made good DC animated movies recently? (Saw a Justice League movie and liked it), why do they have such problems making live-action?


1. Animated movies don't need to have every character interact and takeup screentime (like actors want). So you can actually have something like Batman going off to figure out who the bad guy is followed by Superman taking down said bad guy work.

2. Blatant inconsistencies in terms of basic physics, power levels, etc. are much more forgivable in an animated framework.
 
2013-07-20 10:12:39 PM

Mad_Radhu: [blogs.ocweekly.com image 550x716]
Spoiler alert. It's actually a love story.


i.qkme.me

www.troll.me
 
2013-07-20 10:48:59 PM
Hulk would be the last one standing, therefore The Avengers win.
 
2013-07-20 10:55:50 PM
I Am Legend was right!
 
2013-07-20 10:57:22 PM
Batman and Superman merge into....

BATER-MAN

Rated NC-17
'coming' to theaters near you, Summer 2014
 
2013-07-20 11:01:05 PM
Superman is the laziest concept for a super hero ever... Just stay away from green rocks, and you win... Lame...
 
2013-07-20 11:06:50 PM
Mentat:

Batman and Captain America are both supposed to represent the peak of human potential.  The only difference is that Batman reached that point naturally.

No. Cap. has reached the peak of human potential and is just shy of being considered super-human. He's not just stronger than Batman, he's A LOT stronger. He's not just faster than Batman, he's A LOT faster than Batman. The same goes for his healing, agility, healing etc. abilities. That writers have written them to a draw was to keep fans happy. But Cap. would destroy Batman.

Wanna really enjoy irritating nerd? Tell them how badly and quickly Spider-Man would really beat Wolverine.
 
2013-07-20 11:10:46 PM

chewielouie: Mentat:

Batman and Captain America are both supposed to represent the peak of human potential.  The only difference is that Batman reached that point naturally.

No. Cap. has reached the peak of human potential and is just shy of being considered super-human. He's not just stronger than Batman, he's A LOT stronger. He's not just faster than Batman, he's A LOT faster than Batman. The same goes for his healing, agility, healing etc. abilities. That writers have written them to a draw was to keep fans happy. But Cap. would destroy Batman.

Wanna really enjoy irritating nerd? Tell them how badly and quickly Spider-Man would really beat Wolverine.


Not a nerd, but tell me anyway.
 
2013-07-20 11:18:14 PM

chewielouie: Wanna really enjoy irritating nerd? Tell them how badly and quickly Spider-Man would really beat Wolverine.


Oh, do tell!

/lemme get my popcorn
 
2013-07-20 11:18:31 PM
If Supes is under the influence of Red K and Batman and the rest of the JLA as well as Lex Luthorhave to stop him from destroying Metropolis .. that'd be an epic movie
 
2013-07-20 11:26:43 PM

Oldiron_79: Popcorn Johnny: Oldiron_79: Alright fellow comic nerds, JLA vs Avengers who wins?

Superman and the Hulk cancel each other out. After that, JL has Batman, Flash and Green Lantern. They'd totally own the shiat out of Iron Man, Thor and Captain America.

My thoughts are along these lines, also Wonderwoman would PWN the shiat out of Black widow for your token chick fight


Honestly, Batman and Iron Man would be the most ideal match as they are quite similar heroes. Both super wealthy businessmen who moonlight as super heroes with all sorts of gadgetry and technology. Even if you're going with the Nolan Batman going against Tony Stark, if Bruce can buy enough time for Lucius Fox to design something for Batman to use against Iron Man, it would make an interesting fight.

Since Thor kind of uses "magical" powers (thereby making Superman ineffective), the only two Justice League members who could take him on convincingly would be Wonder Woman and/or Hawkgirl. Green Lantern would pummel Captain America and the Flash would own Hawkeye as Martian Manhunter manhandles Black Widow. All the while Superman would be battling it out with Hulk.

And even if Iron Man defeats Batman, Green Lantern (seriously, Captain America shouldn't take THAT long for GL to defeat) could easily disassemble him.

I'm doing stream of consciousness ranting, but in the end I think Tony Stark and Bruce Wayne would be the key factors in this fight as they're both the geniuses of their respective groups. Both would analyze the other team's strengths and weaknesses and design technology accordingly (well, Lucius Fox would for Bruce though TDKR alludes to Bruce not being unsavvy as he repaired the autopilot for The Bat and in TDK Bruce applied Fox's cell phone sonar tech on a broad scale. TAS Bruce Wayne, obviously, would come up with stuff on his own).

Also note that the leadership of both teams are different. In battle, Captain America is the clear leader of The Avengers, both as the moral force and tactician. With Justice League, the leadership is divided. Superman is the clear inspirational and moral leader of the League, while Batman is the tactician. How this would affect the outcome would be interesting.

Either way, Avengers vs. Justice League would be an exciting fight, but because, I believe, there is a major gap in terms of pure firepower (Justice League has Superman, Wonder Woman, Hawkgirl, Green Lantern, The Flash, and Martian Manhunter in the superpower category compared to Avengers having Hulk, Iron Man, Thor, and Captain America. That's 6 - 4.) that is clearly on the side of the Justice League. So, in terms of just pure firepower, advantage Justice League. What would make the difference is the excellence of execution of both the firepower and skill both teams have, which would fall to the leadership of Captain America and Batman, and potentially Iron Man as well (since Tony Stark is a genius, but in the Avengers movie he didn't really show any tactical leadership in the film). This would also depend on how well both teams work together, which would largely depend on the inspirational leadership of both teams (Captain America for Avengers, Superman for Justice League).

/I nerd out way too much
 
2013-07-20 11:31:21 PM

Popcorn Johnny: Boojum2k: Flash can't hurt Iron Man at all. He's fast, not super strong, and the IM armor deflects tank shells without damage. Also, computer aided targeting evens the score a good bit.

Flash can move at light speed, how does Iron Man or any of his weapons get close to touching him?


Just wait to fight on a rainy day...Swiss cheese Flash!
 
2013-07-20 11:39:46 PM

chewielouie:


Wanna really enjoy irritating nerd? Tell them how badly and quickly Spider-Man would really beat Wolverine.


Personally I prefer Death Star vs Enterprise type debates
 
2013-07-20 11:40:16 PM
DC crushes Marvel. End of discussion. But Marvel has better movies.
 
2013-07-20 11:43:56 PM

Popcorn Johnny: Boojum2k: Flash can't hurt Iron Man at all. He's fast, not super strong, and the IM armor deflects tank shells without damage. Also, computer aided targeting evens the score a good bit.

Flash can move at light speed, how does Iron Man or any of his weapons get close to touching him?


I dunno, how are his enemies a talking gorilla, a guy with boomerangs,a guy with a freeze gun, and prankster?
 
2013-07-20 11:45:45 PM

maelstrom0370: chewielouie: Wanna really enjoy irritating nerd? Tell them how badly and quickly Spider-Man would really beat Wolverine.

Oh, do tell!

/lemme get my popcorn


With a bro-five after mentioning how awesome redheads are in the sack
 
2013-07-20 11:47:48 PM
i.imgur.com
It's actually kind of a boring movie. They just sit around drinking coffee and swapping stories.
 
2013-07-20 11:54:00 PM
DC's heroes operate on a different power scale than Marvel.  That's why their movies generally fail, aside from Batman movies, who happens to be their most 'human' Top Tier superhero.

You just can't take a hero seriously when he only has a couple of weaknesses like 'magic' and some super-rare element like Kryptonite and can move planets.
 
2013-07-20 11:59:14 PM

GreenAdder: [i.imgur.com image 661x308]
It's actually kind of a boring movie. They just sit around drinking coffee and swapping stories.


Actually, that could make for a fairly interesting movie.

I'm always up for something different.
 
2013-07-21 12:00:52 AM

Slu: Blame Hofmann: More cape movies?

How exciting.  People will watch anything.

Seriously.  I am not trying to troll here or anything, but I can't believe people aren't getting tired of these superhero movies.  I know I am.  Or perhaps I am just getting old.


Man, I can't believe people aren't getting tired of these superhero comic books, video games, TV shows, toys, and breakfast cereals. I mean, come on! This superhero thing has been going on for what, 80 years?! Cut me a break already!

Or perhaps I'm just getting old.
 
2013-07-21 12:03:20 AM

GreenAdder: It's actually kind of a boring movie. They just sit around drinking coffee and swapping stories.


Dude, those are the best portrayals of Batman and Superman, ever. I would watch that movie.
 
2013-07-21 12:49:57 AM

Popcorn Johnny: And I didn't even include Martian Manhunter, He'd own the rest of the Avengers on his own while Supes and Hulk were wrecking shiat. The rest of the JLA could chill and watch from the sidelines.


Yeah, unless Tony Stark lit a cigarette or Captain America was enjoys some Oreos.
 
2013-07-21 01:26:59 AM

Earguy: Please, please, include the hoarder storyline:


[i.imgur.com image 640x913]

[i.imgur.com image 640x913]


now that's a win right there
 
2013-07-21 01:40:12 AM
Batman vs Captain America? That's where the whole fight breaks down and they realize they're not actually enemies.
 
2013-07-21 01:53:59 AM
Well, Marvel cockblocked DC by setting up Thanos as the big bad of the MCU, now Darkseid would look like a ripoff. Hmm, who else is sufficiently cosmic and scary? Brainiac would work, fits in with the MoS mythos, good widespread villain for the Justice League.

Marvel just announced Avengers 2: The Age of Ultron

DC "Fuuuuuuuuuuuuu". . .
 
2013-07-21 02:57:54 AM

OhioUGrad: Haven't they made good DC animated movies recently? (Saw a Justice League movie and liked it), why do they have such problems making live-action?


One of life's great mysteries.

Hell, DCs cartoons even shiat all over marvels (until CN decides to pull the plug over toy sales or some nonsense), and they can also do live action stuff because Arrow was an actually decent show.

Justice league: doom was awesome, batman: under the red hood is amazing, and superman: unchained + superman: doomsday were both decent.

Why can't they just get Bruce Timm to write the scripts? No god damn Parallax in an origin story
 
2013-07-21 03:00:26 AM

hammer85: OhioUGrad: Haven't they made good DC animated movies recently? (Saw a Justice League movie and liked it), why do they have such problems making live-action?

One of life's great mysteries.

Hell, DCs cartoons even shiat all over marvels (until CN decides to pull the plug over toy sales or some nonsense), and they can also do live action stuff because Arrow was an actually decent show.

Justice league: doom was awesome, batman: under the red hood is amazing, and superman: unchained + superman: doomsday were both decent.

Why can't they just get Bruce Timm to write the scripts? No god damn Parallax in an origin story


They could have a done a live action Emerald Dawn, set Sinestro up as GL's number one opponent, and left Parallax as the man behind the man for later. That would have been far better than what we got.
 
2013-07-21 03:06:56 AM

Boojum2k: hammer85: OhioUGrad: Haven't they made good DC animated movies recently? (Saw a Justice League movie and liked it), why do they have such problems making live-action?

One of life's great mysteries.

Hell, DCs cartoons even shiat all over marvels (until CN decides to pull the plug over toy sales or some nonsense), and they can also do live action stuff because Arrow was an actually decent show.

Justice league: doom was awesome, batman: under the red hood is amazing, and superman: unchained + superman: doomsday were both decent.

Why can't they just get Bruce Timm to write the scripts? No god damn Parallax in an origin story

They could have a done a live action Emerald Dawn, set Sinestro up as GL's number one opponent, and left Parallax as the man behind the man for later. That would have been far better than what we got.


I would have been happy if the movie didn't take place on earth (after he gets the ring, clearly).

Fark the love story (if you aren't going to make her star sapphire now), and put Hal in space either with or against sinestro.

It's the one thing marvel couldn't do with the avengers. Now they doing guardians of the galaxy and now DCs behind, again.

You could even just do something similar to emerald knights
 
2013-07-21 03:10:22 AM

hammer85: Now they doing guardians of the galaxy and now DCs behind, again.


I noted how the MCU has been shafting DC pretty regularly. I commented elsewhere that at this rate, Marvel will put out a Squadron Supreme movie before Justice League can be released.

Only mostly joking about that.
 
2013-07-21 03:20:11 AM

chewielouie: Wanna really enjoy irritating nerd? Tell them how badly and quickly Spider-Man would really beat Wolverine.


Meh, anyone who reads the books should already know this and I say this as a huge fan of Wolverine. It's been established that Spider-Man is probably one of the strongest and best heroes of the Marvel universe. They even state as much whenever there's a team-up, Spider-man is generally stronger than most other heroes.
 
2013-07-21 03:30:36 AM

YodaBlues: chewielouie: Wanna really enjoy irritating nerd? Tell them how badly and quickly Spider-Man would really beat Wolverine.

Meh, anyone who reads the books should already know this and I say this as a huge fan of Wolverine. It's been established that Spider-Man is probably one of the strongest and best heroes of the Marvel universe. They even state as much whenever there's a team-up, Spider-man is generally stronger than most other heroes.


I remember one issue where Spiderman had Wolverine by the neck, and explained to him that adamantium vertebrae did not stop his head from being ripped off. And his spider sense would give him enough warning of the claws to pull his head clean off before he could be scratched. Wolverine was impressed.
 
2013-07-21 03:30:43 AM

Boojum2k: hammer85: Now they doing guardians of the galaxy and now DCs behind, again.

I noted how the MCU has been shafting DC pretty regularly. I commented elsewhere that at this rate, Marvel will put out a Squadron Supreme movie before Justice League can be released.

Only mostly joking about that.


well, you will get an Ant-Man movie before JL.
 
2013-07-21 03:32:36 AM

FinFangFark: Boojum2k: hammer85: Now they doing guardians of the galaxy and now DCs behind, again.

I noted how the MCU has been shafting DC pretty regularly. I commented elsewhere that at this rate, Marvel will put out a Squadron Supreme movie before Justice League can be released.

Only mostly joking about that.

well, you will get an Ant-Man movie before JL.


I think the earliest we will see a JL movie is 2017. They could rush it and rely on the audiences knowing the backstories, which might work, but with so many characters it will probably be a hot mess.
 
2013-07-21 03:32:38 AM

Boojum2k: YodaBlues: chewielouie: Wanna really enjoy irritating nerd? Tell them how badly and quickly Spider-Man would really beat Wolverine.

Meh, anyone who reads the books should already know this and I say this as a huge fan of Wolverine. It's been established that Spider-Man is probably one of the strongest and best heroes of the Marvel universe. They even state as much whenever there's a team-up, Spider-man is generally stronger than most other heroes.

I remember one issue where Spiderman had Wolverine by the neck, and explained to him that adamantium vertebrae did not stop his head from being ripped off. And his spider sense would give him enough warning of the claws to pull his head clean off before he could be scratched. Wolverine was impressed.


In the new Superior Spider-man comics, where Doc Ock is now in possession of Peter Parker's body (uh...spoilers?) Ock talks about how he never knew just how powerful Spider-man really is, and that he was always holding back on his true potential.
 
2013-07-21 03:32:41 AM

Hijack: ThatDarkFellow: How about just one decent DC comic adaptation without some douchebag coming in to destroy the source material with his "vision"? It's like they're looking at Marvel and saying 'Us too!' but not realizing that Marvel, for all the errors here and there, generally stay within the bounds of their comic counterparts.

The closest anyone has gotten is Burton and Keaton with Batman and Batman Returns, which isn't saying too much as they were a bit campy themselves. The Batman presented in Nolans universe cannot exist within the realm of an extended DC universe. Snyders Superman wasn't great, but it really isn't hard to look better than Superman Returns.

I strongly agree with this statement. I absolutely love the Nolan films and was there at the midnight showings for all 3. That said, and as you said, and as Nolan himself has said, there's no room for any other super-powered heroes in that universe.

My concern is the "let's do what Marvel's done" attitude. Thor turned out to be pretty fun. Captain America was ok. Iron Man was fun. They laid a great foundation. And they played it safe. I can't stress that enough. Then Zack Snyder comes along and I just picture WB or DC going, "Yeah we could play it safe, but let's push the boundaries. Let's get edgy." And then you end up with Supes snapping Zod's neck to save a single family while countless thousands DIAF.


Newsflash:This was Kal-El's first major fight as opposed to Zod's hundreds, and it showed. Zod was engineered for the sole purpose of being a soldier and played Supes like a fiddle. If you're going to argue about a movie, at least know what you're talking about first.
 
2013-07-21 03:36:13 AM

FinFangFark: In the new Superior Spider-man comics, where Doc Ock is now in possession of Peter Parker's body (uh...spoilers?) Ock talks about how he never knew just how powerful Spider-man really is, and that he was always holding back on his true potential.


Yeah, Spiderman rarely cuts loose. And when he does he beats Firelord, Herald of Galactus, into an unconscious pile.

By the way, I love your handle, and I have the Heroclix model of Fin Fang Foom as a bookshelf decoration.

/Along with an orangutang.
 
2013-07-21 03:53:28 AM

calbert: the line, "I'm the goddamn Batman" is the worst thing to have ever happened to that character.

/besides his parents being murdered

 
2013-07-21 03:57:46 AM

Roook: Can't wait for The Flash movie


You missed it. It was planned, filmed, advertised, bombed, rebooted, and bombed again all in the time it took you to read this.
 
2013-07-21 06:14:58 AM

ThatBillmanGuy: GreenAdder: It's actually kind of a boring movie. They just sit around drinking coffee and swapping stories.

Dude, those are the best portrayals of Batman and Superman, ever. I would watch that movie.


Admittedly, so would I.

...because I'm Batman.
 
2013-07-21 06:45:07 AM

Faith Logic Passion: Either way, Avengers vs. Justice League would be an exciting fight, but because, I believe, there is a major gap in terms of pure firepower (Justice League has Superman, Wonder Woman, Hawkgirl, Green Lantern, The Flash, and Martian Manhunter in the superpower category compared to Avengers having Hulk, Iron Man, Thor, and Captain America. That's 6 - 4.) that is clearly on the side of the Justice League. So, in terms of just pure firepower, advantage Justice League. What would make the difference is the excellence of execution of both the firepower and skill both teams have, which would fall to the leadership of Captain America and Batman, and potentially Iron Man as well (since Tony Stark is a genius, but in the Avengers movie he didn't really show any tactical leadership in the film). This would also depend on how well both teams work together, which would largely depend on the inspirational leadership of both teams (Captain America for Avengers, Superman for Justice League).


If you are going to bring in non-film characters into the fight then the Avengers get Spiderman (who has super-strength on a par with everyone but Superman/Hulk), Wolverine, Quicksilver, Scarlet Witch, Ms Marvel, Ant-Man etc. The expanded roster has superpowers by the bucket load and could easily match the JLA

The problem is that on both sides the power levels have always been in flux depending on the writers so the winner is the one that the current writer thinks will win. The rest will be explained via incompatible matchups, using the lower power levels or dues ex machina.
 
2013-07-21 08:13:57 AM
Spider-Man can beat the Hulk.

He really is more powerful than given credit for and he's a super genius to boot.

static.comicvine.com
 
2013-07-21 08:29:05 AM

Vash's Apprentice: Zod was engineered for the sole purpose of being a soldier and played Supes like a fiddle.


If Supe had all Kryptonian DNA in him then he had Zod's programming in addition to thousands more. If you're going to argue about a movie, at least know what you're talking about first.
 
2013-07-21 08:29:57 AM

Norfolking Chance: If you are going to bring in non-film characters into the fight then the Avengers get Spiderman (who has super-strength on a par with everyone but Superman/Hulk), Wolverine, Quicksilver, Scarlet Witch, Ms Marvel, Ant-Man etc. The expanded roster has superpowers by the bucket load and could easily match the JLA


The DC side has just as many members and a fair number of them are basically demigods.  Unless you're giving the Avengers Sersei, Photon (Captain Marvel), Quasar, Scarlet Witch, Vision, Ms. Marvel, Wonder Man, Hercules and Ares on top of Thor and Iron Man (with time to prepare), the entire JLA can sit back and knock back a beer while the Avengers deal with the real world implications of a being that can accelerate to superliminal speeds within Earth's atmosphere and at the very least maintain its mass.

DC sucks.
 
2013-07-21 09:28:09 AM
The kid in me is so excited he could pee right now.
 
2013-07-21 09:42:04 AM
 
2013-07-21 10:28:29 AM

Wolfman Johnny: Vash's Apprentice: Zod was engineered for the sole purpose of being a soldier and played Supes like a fiddle.

If Supe had all Kryptonian DNA in him then he had Zod's programming in addition to thousands more. If you're going to argue about a movie, at least know what you're talking about first.


Where in the film did they say he could access the DNA that way? They "stored the codex" in Kal, they didn't rewrite his DNA.

The whole theme was that Kal can choose his path, not that he is on all of them.

"If you're going to argue about a movie," blah blah blah.
 
2013-07-21 10:30:13 AM

FinFangFark: Boojum2k: YodaBlues: chewielouie: Wanna really enjoy irritating nerd? Tell them how badly and quickly Spider-Man would really beat Wolverine.

Meh, anyone who reads the books should already know this and I say this as a huge fan of Wolverine. It's been established that Spider-Man is probably one of the strongest and best heroes of the Marvel universe. They even state as much whenever there's a team-up, Spider-man is generally stronger than most other heroes.

I remember one issue where Spiderman had Wolverine by the neck, and explained to him that adamantium vertebrae did not stop his head from being ripped off. And his spider sense would give him enough warning of the claws to pull his head clean off before he could be scratched. Wolverine was impressed.

In the new Superior Spider-man comics, where Doc Ock is now in possession of Peter Parker's body (uh...spoilers?) Ock talks about how he never knew just how powerful Spider-man really is, and that he was always holding back on his true potential.


Spider-Man basically romped the entire X-Men team by himself in Secret Wars, without really breaking a sweat. I think he's also beaten up the Fantastic 4, as well.
 
2013-07-21 10:37:58 AM
And I thought this rebooted Man of Steel he's not ALL powerful like before.

He's more like Smallville Superman, just learning his powers....
He couldn't even fly at first in this...and he bled.

This isn't "god-like" Superman... it's just....uh... ALMOST...sorta god like!

(Hell, even in the Action Comics New 52 he got knocked out by a subway train!)
 
2013-07-21 10:39:27 AM

spidermann: Spider-Man can beat the Hulk.

He really is more powerful than given credit for and he's a super genius to boot.


If only he could beat John Romita Jr's penciling.  Ugh.

And anyway, Doctor Strange would own everyone.
 
2013-07-21 10:49:35 AM
I am not sure how anyone could be excited, I'll be the same people who brought us Man of Steel. A terrible CGI craziest. Fun. >.>
 
2013-07-21 10:50:23 AM
Crapfest. Damnit auto correct
 
2013-07-21 10:53:35 AM

bbfreak: I am not sure how anyone could be excited, I'll be the same people who brought us Man of Steel. A terrible CGI craziest. Fun. >.>


Man of Steel was the best, and smartest, Superman movie that I've ever seen.
 
2013-07-21 11:03:50 AM

GreenAdder: [i.imgur.com image 661x308]
It's actually kind of a boring movie. They just sit around drinking coffee and swapping stories.


i.imgur.com
It's been done.
 
2013-07-21 11:04:57 AM

ExcedrinHeadache: FinFangFark: Boojum2k: YodaBlues: chewielouie: Wanna really enjoy irritating nerd? Tell them how badly and quickly Spider-Man would really beat Wolverine.

Meh, anyone who reads the books should already know this and I say this as a huge fan of Wolverine. It's been established that Spider-Man is probably one of the strongest and best heroes of the Marvel universe. They even state as much whenever there's a team-up, Spider-man is generally stronger than most other heroes.

I remember one issue where Spiderman had Wolverine by the neck, and explained to him that adamantium vertebrae did not stop his head from being ripped off. And his spider sense would give him enough warning of the claws to pull his head clean off before he could be scratched. Wolverine was impressed.

In the new Superior Spider-man comics, where Doc Ock is now in possession of Peter Parker's body (uh...spoilers?) Ock talks about how he never knew just how powerful Spider-man really is, and that he was always holding back on his true potential.

Spider-Man basically romped the entire X-Men team by himself in Secret Wars, without really breaking a sweat. I think he's also beaten up the Fantastic 4, as well.


There was a spider-man where he pissed off Firelord..you know..the ex-herald of Galactus.  And after running around the city trying to stay away from him, spidey got stuck in the open so turned and attacked and absolutely demolished Firelord.  The Avengers showed up to stop spidey from killing him.
 
2013-07-21 11:51:52 AM

chewielouie: No. Cap. has reached the peak of human potential and is just shy of being considered super-human. He's not just stronger than Batman, he's A LOT stronger. He's not just faster than Batman, he's A LOT faster than Batman. The same goes for his healing, agility, healing etc. abilities. That writers have written them to a draw was to keep fans happy. But Cap. would destroy Batman.


Batman is the only person in the universe (that I know of) who dodged Darkseid's Omega Beams, so he has the agility angle covered.  He might not have Cap's strength, but there are plenty of ways around that.  And Batman considers himself a soldier and thinks like one.  He might not have fought in WWII, but with the multiple Super Mega Uber Ultimate Final Totally Last One Crises, he's been in enough war-level events that he's probably on par with Cap.  So equals.
 
2013-07-21 11:58:03 AM

Alphax: bbfreak: I am not sure how anyone could be excited, I'll be the same people who brought us Man of Steel. A terrible CGI craziest. Fun. >.>

Man of Steel was the best, and smartest, Superman movie that I've ever seen.


If you say so.
 
2013-07-21 11:59:57 AM
Oldiron_79: Alright fellow comic nerds, JLA vs Avengers who wins?

What? Are you dense? Are you retarded?
static.comicvine.com
 
2013-07-21 12:05:52 PM

Trocadero: [static.comicvine.com image 850x1306]

Vibrating until you're intangible would probably be able to beat almost anyone.




Sweet! Kitty Pride beats both the Avengers and Justice League together.
 
2013-07-21 01:21:17 PM
So, JGL as Batman?
 
2013-07-21 03:41:48 PM

FinFangFark: Boojum2k: YodaBlues: chewielouie: Wanna really enjoy irritating nerd? Tell them how badly and quickly Spider-Man would really beat Wolverine.

Meh, anyone who reads the books should already know this and I say this as a huge fan of Wolverine. It's been established that Spider-Man is probably one of the strongest and best heroes of the Marvel universe. They even state as much whenever there's a team-up, Spider-man is generally stronger than most other heroes.

I remember one issue where Spiderman had Wolverine by the neck, and explained to him that adamantium vertebrae did not stop his head from being ripped off. And his spider sense would give him enough warning of the claws to pull his head clean off before he could be scratched. Wolverine was impressed.

In the new Superior Spider-man comics, where Doc Ock is now in possession of Peter Parker's body (uh...spoilers?) Ock talks about how he never knew just how powerful Spider-man really is, and that he was always holding back on his true potential.


Pretty much all of this. Spider-Man is just stronger or faster than Wolverine, he's like 25 times stronger and faster, if not more. If we go solely by what we know of their powers, and not just writer bias, Spider-Man would win the second Wolverine extends his claws. Remember when your older brother would make you punch your own face with your own hands, all the while saying, "stop hitting yourself, stop hitting yourself."? Pretty much like that. Spidey would decapitate wolverine with his own claws and than web slingshot his head miles away before Wolverine's body hits that ground.

/Still love Woverine.
//Can't wait til this Friday.
 
2013-07-21 03:47:01 PM

MurphyMurphy: GreenAdder: [i.imgur.com image 661x308]
It's actually kind of a boring movie. They just sit around drinking coffee and swapping stories.

Actually, that could make for a fairly interesting movie.

I'm always up for something different.


I've suggested before that what they really should do is ignore the whole "give everyone a movie and then have them come together in a major crisis to form the super-team" model. Just go from the JLA are already established and have some kind of "day in the life" story set in that world. A world where aliens try and invade every six months and, if you're smart, you have supervillain insurance. Hell do the formation of the League in flashback during the opening credits and get on with the story.

... and don't farking re-boot Batman. TAS Batman didn't need any reboot before they put him in the Justice League cartoon. Just have Batman in the Justice League and don't even bother saying for sure if it's Bruce, Dick, "Robin", Terry or whoever. He's Batman.
 
2013-07-21 05:56:09 PM

You'd turn it off when I was halfway across: MurphyMurphy: GreenAdder: [i.imgur.com image 661x308]
It's actually kind of a boring movie. They just sit around drinking coffee and swapping stories.

Actually, that could make for a fairly interesting movie.

I'm always up for something different.

I've suggested before that what they really should do is ignore the whole "give everyone a movie and then have them come together in a major crisis to form the super-team" model. Just go from the JLA are already established and have some kind of "day in the life" story set in that world. A world where aliens try and invade every six months and, if you're smart, you have supervillain insurance. Hell do the formation of the League in flashback during the opening credits and get on with the story.

... and don't farking re-boot Batman. TAS Batman didn't need any reboot before they put him in the Justice League cartoon. Just have Batman in the Justice League and don't even bother saying for sure if it's Bruce, Dick, "Robin", Terry or whoever. He's Batman.


I know where you got your FARK handle from.

+1

/Also, I agree with the Spider-man = major player comments.
 
2013-07-21 06:12:30 PM

Summer Glau's Love Slave: You'd turn it off when I was halfway across: MurphyMurphy: GreenAdder: [i.imgur.com image 661x308]
It's actually kind of a boring movie. They just sit around drinking coffee and swapping stories.

Actually, that could make for a fairly interesting movie.

I'm always up for something different.

I've suggested before that what they really should do is ignore the whole "give everyone a movie and then have them come together in a major crisis to form the super-team" model. Just go from the JLA are already established and have some kind of "day in the life" story set in that world. A world where aliens try and invade every six months and, if you're smart, you have supervillain insurance. Hell do the formation of the League in flashback during the opening credits and get on with the story.

... and don't farking re-boot Batman. TAS Batman didn't need any reboot before they put him in the Justice League cartoon. Just have Batman in the Justice League and don't even bother saying for sure if it's Bruce, Dick, "Robin", Terry or whoever. He's Batman.

I know where you got your FARK handle from.

+1

/Also, I agree with the Spider-man = major player comments.


and I can't cite right now, but I know throughout the years in the Marvel 616, guys like Reed Richards, and the X-men have commented that Spider-man has Omega-level powers
 
2013-07-21 06:37:30 PM

spidermann: Spider-Man can beat the Hulk.

He really is more powerful than given credit for and he's a super genius to boot.

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Great when someone with an appropriate handle also sums up the situation so well, with citation. +1

I'm a big fan of applying powers creatively, and Spider-man won the superpower lottery. For me, growing up reading comics I liked the guys that had powers that I wish I had in daily life. Cyclops and Wolverine didn't seem all that great since they seemed to have powers that were designed for combat only. Well, immunity to illness and damage and being able to drink a lot without getting totally wasted is cool. Spidey sense and being able to walk on walls seemed pretty good.  My google-fu is failing me before this thread ends of the pic they used as an ad in the late 80s where Spidey was holding a disc over his head, and all the other Marvel characters were on it. That was where I got the idea he was at least baseline Hulk strong, which is damn strong. Fast, agile, smart, and strong, no weaknesses other than guilt.... he's unbeatable*

*like any good Face, he always loses the first fight, then wins the deciding match
 
2013-07-21 09:28:11 PM

Summer Glau's Love Slave: Oldiron_79: Alright fellow comic nerds, JLA vs Avengers who wins?

What? Are you dense? Are you retarded?
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A challenger appears!

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2013-07-21 09:47:02 PM
BTW Kryptonite was introduced in the movie.  The atmosphere of krypton.
 
2013-07-21 10:32:51 PM

bulldg4life: Every last one of you motherf*ckers is going to end up seeing it just like me. Stop your biatching.


Not just like you. You'll go to the theatre and spend money; I'll torrent it 3 months later.
 
2013-07-21 10:55:03 PM

Captain Steroid: Summer Glau's Love Slave: Oldiron_79: Alright fellow comic nerds, JLA vs Avengers who wins?

What? Are you dense? Are you retarded?
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A challenger appears!

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Love you so much right now.
 
2013-07-21 11:25:19 PM

Mentat: chewielouie: No. Cap. has reached the peak of human potential and is just shy of being considered super-human. He's not just stronger than Batman, he's A LOT stronger. He's not just faster than Batman, he's A LOT faster than Batman. The same goes for his healing, agility, healing etc. abilities. That writers have written them to a draw was to keep fans happy. But Cap. would destroy Batman.

Batman is the only person in the universe (that I know of) who dodged Darkseid's Omega Beams, so he has the agility angle covered.  He might not have Cap's strength, but there are plenty of ways around that.  And Batman considers himself a soldier and thinks like one.  He might not have fought in WWII, but with the multiple Super Mega Uber Ultimate Final Totally Last One Crises, he's been in enough war-level events that he's probably on par with Cap.  So equals.


No.
 
2013-07-22 02:31:50 AM
A friend once told me that in a old Marvel character guide, Spider-Man's strength limit was listed as Unknown. He was the only character listed that way.
 
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