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(Herald Tribune (SW Florida))   Remember those warrantless door to door searches everyone was okay with in Boston because it was a unique circumstance and other police agencies would never try it? Welcome to the new America   (heraldtribune.com) divider line 582
    More: Asinine, Louise Goldsberry, United States Marshals Service, police raid, home invasions  
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2013-07-20 09:42:00 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: NeoAnderthal: Busting in without a warrant? Sounds like a cop going rogue and a lawsuit to me.

Really?  Sounds like a bunch of cops exercising their machismo and power-high on a Very Important Mission, and and teaching some insufficiently servile biatch a lesson to me.  Damn, they did everything but gang-rape her to prove their power.

Remember friends - Police are not nice.  Never, ever trust them, and never, ever call them unless you have absolutely no alternative.  They are as likely to shoot you as they are to shoot the bad guy.  They are even somewhat likely to think you ARE the bad guy, if you don't cower in awe before them.


Sounds like someone had a cop dump her for a more feminine woman...doesn't surprise me, bitter is a hard pill to swallow.


And since Boston? Try since the drug war started, its been a way to militarize the local police in case of public uprising and allows the military to be in other parts of the world.
 
2013-07-20 09:42:20 PM  

leadmetal: They are now 'law enforcement'.


Yeah, that really sums it up.

Not really a new thing, either.At least, not for me, but I grew up in Northern Virginia, which as always been a forerunner in police state mentality.

Where police order drunks to leave a bar, then arrest them all for being drunk in public.

Where they bust in to a billiards club and zip tie everyone to conduct a routine alcohol inspection.

Where they goaded a guy into betting enough to charge him with running a gambling operation, and then shot him dead while he was unarmed.
 
2013-07-20 09:43:46 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: If I'm understanding the timeline of this correctly:

1. Lady sees a guy in a hunting vest pointing a gun at her while she's washing dishes (I'm assuming she saw him through a window as mysterious hunting-vest-dude apparently disappears from the rest of the story, perhaps it was one of the officers)

2. Lady starts screaming (understandably) and crawls across the floor to get her gun

3. There's a banging on the door and someone identifying themselves as a police officer requests entry (which is understandable considering he just heard screaming coming from inside the apartment)

4. After the door doesn't open, the police force it open, again, which is understandable - warrants aren't needed for exigent circumstances, and he just heard a lady screaming and is apparently aware that there's reported fugitive, possibly armed, in the area

5.  Because he's concerned for her safety and there is a possible armed fugitive, he comes in fully armed, and rightfully tells her to put down her weapon.

6.  The boyfriend asks to come out, he's let out, and immediately handcuffed, appropriately, as the police don't know who he is, if this is a domestic dispute, if he's the fugitive, etc, better safe than sorry - restrain him and then figure out what's going on

7.  The lady is screaming things that aren't related to the situation (being an American citizen does not give you the right to hold a gun on a police officer or to disobey their orders in that type of situation) but is finally calmed down by the boyfriend after he sees the other police outside.

8. Lady puts her gun down, the house is searched (there was a confrontation inside the home, screaming coming from it, it seems reasonable to me)

9. The situation is explained to the lady and her boyfriend, and they're let go

I don't see a police over-reach in this.  If an officer was driving past my house and heard loud screaming in terror I'd want him to come in as I very well could be in mortal danger.  Perhaps the guy was a bit gruff in his language, but he identified himself as a police officer and the couple delayed allowing him entry, and then the lady refused to lower her weapon.  She's frankly lucky that she didn't get shot.


The cop did not cite the scream as the rationale for entry. Therefore that is not why he entered.
 
2013-07-20 09:45:32 PM  

Frederick: Mithiwithi: Who in Boston said no and got their house searched anyway?

Are you suggesting permission was asked?


Not trolling... seriously don't know...

DO we KNOW that permission wasn't asked in the Boston door to door searches?
 
2013-07-20 09:46:16 PM  
I have no idea what prompted you to offer me this generosity, PFM, but thank you.
 
2013-07-20 09:46:33 PM  

tricycleracer: But when the people in Goldsberry's apartment didn't open up, that told Wiggins he had probably found the right door.

That's some fine police work there.



Why the fark did they need a 30-person SWAT team to catch a child rapist? Do child rapists carry AK-47s and grenades?

What a bullshiat operation. They could have taken 5 cops, lightly armed, and kept their weapons holstered and knocked on the door politely and asked for cooperation.
 
2013-07-20 09:48:58 PM  

bunner: I have no idea what prompted you to offer me this generosity, PFM, but thank you.


You pissed me off... so I farked up your life for 30 days. Welcome to hell. Muahahahahaha!!!

/You made me laugh... I'm a cheap date.
//Welcome
 
2013-07-20 09:49:53 PM  
Thank you for the TF, Pray 4 Mojo, though I know not what I've done to deserve it.
 
2013-07-20 09:50:10 PM  

leadmetal: AngryDragon: Smackledorfer: AngryDragon: cig-mkr: You will be reading more articles like this........give someone an inch and they will take a mile. It will become the norm.

But "Slippery Slope" is a fallacy!  Just ask the anti-abortion loons, and the anti-gun nuts, and the Corporate Deregulation lobbyists, and....

Slippery slope is not a valid argument unless you can connect the dots.

Why this is so hard for people to grasp I have no idea, but I am sure you could find a dumbed down explanation with a quick googling if you or anyone else is having trouble.

Dot One:

[farm4.static.flickr.com image 500x335]

Dot Two:

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Pretty much. People say the slippery slope doesn't exist but that's because they their memory doesn't go back past lunch.

For this subject matter I suggest watching the Fox TV show "COPS". Start at the beginning in ~1989 and watch through the present day. Not every episode, just a representative sample. Yes it's TV. Yes it's edited. Yes it's idealized cop behavior. Yes it's done to make cops look good. But all of that is a constant and the goal is to see the change. These constants drop out of the equation. The change is documented by this show. Watch a 20+ year old episode of "COPS" it's shocking how different their behavior is. It's civil. It's confident, not paranoid. They don't scream at people as much. Someone owning guns  don't result in any over the top response. They deal with people instead of scream commands at them like they are the gunny and the other person is private Pyle.


Slippery Slope *is* a fallacy.  Current events are not.

Slippery slop is a fallacy, but it was one our constitution was written on.

Slippery slope is a fallacy, so decreasing police powers will not result in total anarchy.

Anyhoo, I've never had bad cop experiences, (yes, I am white) but that's not really the issue. Back in ye olde days of all police being (officially) polite and courteous the bad cops walked the bad beats.  They worked in the bad parts of town and their beatings weren't recorded because, hey, it was just a bunch of darkies.  Right?   Now though, we're ALL serfs to the corporate master class.  We're just as likely to live in a shiathole because rent's expensive everywhere as we are to live their because we're minorities.  We're all acceptable targets.
 
2013-07-20 09:51:13 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: I don't see a police over-reach in this. If an officer was driving past my house and heard loud screaming in terror I'd want him to come in as I very well could be in mortal danger. Perhaps the guy was a bit gruff in his language, but he identified himself as a police officer and the couple delayed allowing him entry, and then the lady refused to lower her weapon. She's frankly lucky that she didn't get shot.


I see a big over-reach, she was screaming *BECAUSE* of the police.

Benjimin_Dover: It wasn't "no one answers when police identified themselves" it was a person inside the apartment responding to a voice through the door that claimed they were the police by asking for some identification yo be shown. Any law enforcement officer that has a problem with showing identification needs to be released to find another line of work.


Definitely.

Gyrfalcon: There's a very easy way to prevent this ever happening again:

Disallow no-knock warrants.

No-knock warrants were originally allowed because cops, prosecutors and other law&order types were afraid that the knock-and-announce requirements would give evil drug dealers and other thugs a chance to destroy evidence, flee out the back, etc. So judges started signing off on no-knock warrants because of the dangers that when the door was finally answered, there would be no evidence to find.

Well, so be it. No more no-knock warrants, and if the evidence is gone by the time the crooks answer the door, then that's going to be the price of doing business. Is that how people want to proceed? Because it's an easy fix if you want it.


No, how about using robots for the drug raids.  Arm them with tasers only and pass a law that if they're doing a raid for {x} and they get video of you apparently destroying {x} that it's presumed that it was {x}.
 
2013-07-20 09:51:27 PM  

Pray 4 Mojo: .Problem is... cops deal with assholes all day...


And I get it.  I know my experience isn't exactly the same thing, but I worked "customer service" for 6 years.  The overwhelming majority of people I dealt with were people who were not happy with something.  Most days, most of my human interactions were unpleasant with people acting like bratty, children, who were total assholes and/or were totally disrespectful.

But a situation like that in the article, and my limited interaction with cops in general, is completely uncalled for, period.  These abusive, illegal "professionals" need to be locked up and receive real punishments for their actions and behavior, period.  And authority figures who demonstrate an inability to reasonably deal with assholes all day shouldn't be in a position of authority, let alone be given the means to take a life.
 
2013-07-20 09:52:05 PM  

Pray 4 Mojo: Frederick: Mithiwithi: Who in Boston said no and got their house searched anyway?

Are you suggesting permission was asked?

Not trolling... seriously don't know...

DO we KNOW that permission wasn't asked in the Boston door to door searches?


It was a wide range, there were quite a few stories here on fark back when it happened.  Everything from no-knock bust-in to shouting, demanding and then dragging people out at gunpoint.
 
2013-07-20 09:53:40 PM  
 
2013-07-20 09:54:23 PM  

MurphyMurphy: ManateeGag: what shiatty interactions have you had with police officers? I've never, not ever once, had a horrible interaction with a police officer where I thought I was going to get shot or he was going to fark me over. I've felt like an idiot for getting a ticket a few times, but none of them have ever been outright assholes to me.

Let's play pictionary


I didn't read comments long enough to find out if anyone said it but is it world shiat sandwich?
 
2013-07-20 09:54:47 PM  

RINO: It doesn't have to be that way, though. Cities that implement "community policing"have their crime rates drop at a comparable or faster rate than those that choose increasing "militarization", with the added bonus of the general population having more trust in police officers.


For it not to be this way people have to give up a lot things they apparently want.  Or at least are told they want so they want it.

It does have to be this way for americans to have the country they apparently want and vote for. (as if there's a real choice in voting since in most cases the difference isn't worth mentioning)  Americans by and large want to tell their neighbors how to live. They support the interventionist foreign policy. They submissively crawl to government in fear of boogiemen. They want collectivist programs. They want the government to keep their children from doing the wrong things (drugs, sex,  whatever). They want to safe from 'risk'. So on and so forth. To have all this requires government violence or the threat there of. It requires an occupying force. Government has one tool to accomplish everything, to use it's monopoly on legal violence.
 
2013-07-20 09:54:59 PM  

MrHappyRotter: Pray 4 Mojo: .Problem is... cops deal with assholes all day...

And I get it.  I know my experience isn't exactly the same thing, but I worked "customer service" for 6 years.  The overwhelming majority of people I dealt with were people who were not happy with something.  Most days, most of my human interactions were unpleasant with people acting like bratty, children, who were total assholes and/or were totally disrespectful.

But a situation like that in the article, and my limited interaction with cops in general, is completely uncalled for, period.  These abusive, illegal "professionals" need to be locked up and receive real punishments for their actions and behavior, period.  And authority figures who demonstrate an inability to reasonably deal with assholes all day shouldn't be in a position of authority, let alone be given the means to take a life.


The authority figures are not unable, they are uninterested.  IF they want to take on the cops, it is only because they want to take on the police union because they hate unions.  Otherwise they're fine with the militarized police because police don't DO this kind of thing to big campaign donors.  Gated communities and the little islands of rich people in towns are still safe from this sort of thing.
 
2013-07-20 09:57:20 PM  

sendtodave: Civilians are all potentially bad guys.  They will be treated as such.


Cop.
 
2013-07-20 09:58:59 PM  

leadmetal: It does have to be this way for americans to have the country they apparently want and vote for. (as if there's a real choice in voting since in most cases the difference isn't worth mentioning) Americans by and large want to tell their neighbors how to live. They support the interventionist foreign policy. They submissively crawl to government in fear of boogiemen. They want collectivist programs. They want the government to keep their children from doing the wrong things (drugs, sex, whatever). They want to safe from 'risk'. So on and so forth. To have all this requires government violence or the threat there of. It requires an occupying force. Government has one tool to accomplish everything, to use it's monopoly on legal violence.


Social contract arguments typically posit that individuals have consented, either explicitly or tacitly, to surrender some of their freedoms and submit to the authority of the ruler or magistrate (or to the decision of a majority), in exchange for protection of their remaining rights.
 
2013-07-20 10:00:06 PM  

HotIgneous Intruder: sendtodave: Civilians are all potentially bad guys.  They will be treated as such.

Cop.


Pick up that can.
 
2013-07-20 10:01:30 PM  

RINO: Thank you for the TF, Pray 4 Mojo, though I know not what I've done to deserve it.


Just trying to help a guy change the world...

/With 5 dollars.
 
2013-07-20 10:01:47 PM  

sendtodave: "Why did you shoot me? I was reading a book": The new warrior cop is out of control


If you haven't already, I highly recommend buying that book. Tjat article and another one were greenlit here and piques my interest enough to purchase it, and it's probably the best nonfiction book I've read in years.
 
2013-07-20 10:02:15 PM  
This just in, PFM has won the lottery.  :  )
 
2013-07-20 10:03:17 PM  

RINO: sendtodave: "Why did you shoot me? I was reading a book": The new warrior cop is out of control

If you haven't already, I highly recommend buying that book. Tjat article and another one were greenlit here and piques my interest enough to purchase it, and it's probably the best nonfiction book I've read in years.


In other news, apparently I fail at cell phone typing.
 
2013-07-20 10:04:16 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: 1. Lady sees a guy in a hunting vest pointing a gun at her while she's washing dishes


You clearly don't understand the onus on the very first sentence.  If that happened to someone you loved OR YOU, you would be VERY pissed off.  NO one should have a loaded weapon pointed at their face who is not guilty or even suspected of being guilty of anything.   It's scary as hell.
 
2013-07-20 10:05:05 PM  

RINO: RINO: sendtodave: "Why did you shoot me? I was reading a book": The new warrior cop is out of control

If you haven't already, I highly recommend buying that book. Tjat article and another one were greenlit here and piques my interest enough to purchase it, and it's probably the best nonfiction book I've read in years.

In other news, apparently I fail at cell phone typing.


I got the gist.
 
2013-07-20 10:05:06 PM  
Goldsberry wasn't arrested or shot despite pointing a gun at a cop, so Wiggins said, "She sure shouldn't be going to the press."


Jesus...
 
2013-07-20 10:05:32 PM  
If I were her, I would have fired. No questions asked. If I end up dying, then at least it's in the cause of liberty.
 
2013-07-20 10:06:35 PM  

leadmetal: They submissively crawl to government in fear of boogiemen. They want collectivist programs. They want the government to keep their children from doing the wrong things (drugs, sex,  whatever). They want to safe from 'risk'. So on and so forth. To have all this requires government violence or the threat there of. It requires an occupying force. Government has one tool to accomplish everything, to use it's monopoly on legal violence.


Shhh dude you are blowing our cover
Never tell the cannon fodder where the cannons are.
 
2013-07-20 10:07:08 PM  

Penman: If I were her, I would have fired. No questions asked. If I end up dying, then at least it's in the cause of liberty.


Then this would have been a non-story, she'd have been a criminal that got what she deserved, and the cops would just be that much more likely to shoot first next time.
 
m00
2013-07-20 10:07:12 PM  

sendtodave: "Why did you shoot me? I was reading a book": The new warrior cop is out of control


from the article: The most volatile night of the convention featured one incident in which Jefferson County, Colorado, deputies unknowingly clashed with and then pepper-sprayed undercover Denver cops posing as violent protesters.


Wait, what?
 
2013-07-20 10:08:04 PM  

Deathfrogg: Police are actively sorted for narcissistic and sociopathic personalities.


Gonna need a citation for that one. I do know they sort out the ones that are too smart but I'm afraid I can find nothing to support your claim - I tried to look for you but there's no credible evidence of this claim that I can find so a citation is needed.
 
2013-07-20 10:09:41 PM  

phenn: TuteTibiImperes: She's frankly lucky that she didn't get shot.

THEY are lucky THEY didn't get shot. Her home, bro. Her farking home.


Taking on the cops with a .38 while in a panic will not end well.
 
2013-07-20 10:09:48 PM  

m00: sendtodave: "Why did you shoot me? I was reading a book": The new warrior cop is out of control

from the article: The most volatile night of the convention featured one incident in which Jefferson County, Colorado, deputies unknowingly clashed with and then pepper-sprayed undercover Denver cops posing as violent protesters.


Wait, what?


An agent provocateur is a person employed to act undercover to entice or provoke another person to commit an illegal or rash act.
 
2013-07-20 10:10:31 PM  

ManateeGag: Benevolent Misanthrope: NeoAnderthal: Busting in without a warrant? Sounds like a cop going rogue and a lawsuit to me.

Really?  Sounds like a bunch of cops exercising their machismo and power-high on a Very Important Mission, and and teaching some insufficiently servile biatch a lesson to me.  Damn, they did everything but gang-rape her to prove their power.

Remember friends - Police are not nice.  Never, ever trust them, and never, ever call them unless you have absolutely no alternative.  They are as likely to shoot you as they are to shoot the bad guy.  They are even somewhat likely to think you ARE the bad guy, if you don't cower in awe before them.

what shiatty interactions have you had with police officers?  I've never, not ever once, had a horrible interaction with a police officer where I thought I was going to get shot or he was going to fark me over.  I've felt like an idiot for getting a ticket a few times, but none of them have ever been outright assholes to me.


I had my face gently placed on the asphalt by a state trooper one time, but it just so happened that the next day I tripped and fell on my face and from me landing on my said face just so that Ithaca me road rash and had left scabs , total accident just me being a klutz

/ need a beer
// jus sayin
 
2013-07-20 10:11:28 PM  
Anybody who thinks that Americans today are somehow different from Soviets or Germans of the 1930s is delusional. Cops do what they are told. They aren't paid (nor do most of them have the ability) to think. Like the people who shoved Jews into gas chambers or committed gross human rights abuses in the gulags, they put the moral responsibility on those who give the orders, and have clear consciences because they are the "good guys" and they have the guts to do the dirty work to make the world a better place. If you think that they care about "serving and protecting" the public, you would be wrong. They care about only one thing: pleasing their bosses and getting that next promotion.
 
2013-07-20 10:11:41 PM  

RINO: I'm about to go through a police academy, but events like this worry me. Articles like this and Radley Balko's new book (which is a great farking read, by the way) make me fear that I might have to take part in bullshiat like this.


Probably you will. And probably you'll like it and even enthusiastically participate; unless you're one of the ones who can't handle it and quit either during academy or in your rookie year.

Being a cop changes your entire outlook; cops are made, not born, most of the time, it's something to do with the uniform and the microculture they live in. Anyone who doesn't believe this needs to read "The Lucifer Effect", ZImbardo's book about how merely putting on a uniform and a pair of sunglasses turned a few college boys into stereotypical cop-thugs in less than 48 hours.
 
2013-07-20 10:11:51 PM  

sendtodave: Penman: If I were her, I would have fired. No questions asked. If I end up dying, then at least it's in the cause of liberty.

Then this would have been a non-story, she'd have been a criminal that got what she deserved, and the cops would just be that much more likely to shoot first next time.


This is why every person with a family should own a gun, capable of piercing body armor.
 
m00
2013-07-20 10:13:09 PM  

sendtodave: An agent provocateur is a person employed to act undercover to entice or provoke another person to commit an illegal or rash act.


Yeah, but this isn't "rogue cop" evil. This is like... what the Egyptian government does.

There's a peaceful protest. You send in some undercover cops who throw rocks, damage property. Military comes in and kills/detains all the protestors because "they got violent."
 
m00
2013-07-20 10:13:45 PM  

HindiDiscoMonster: cops have a policy of shoot first, shoot last, shoot some more, then when everyone is dead, maybe start asking some questions.

get a medal for their bravery
 
2013-07-20 10:15:13 PM  

m00: sendtodave: "Why did you shoot me? I was reading a book": The new warrior cop is out of control

from the article: The most volatile night of the convention featured one incident in which Jefferson County, Colorado, deputies unknowingly clashed with and then pepper-sprayed undercover Denver cops posing as violent protesters.


Wait, what?


Sweet! I'm ok with this...when you instigate violence to allow your pals to instigate violence against those that are supposedly going to instigate violence...wait, what? This is bullshiat.
 
2013-07-20 10:15:48 PM  
you have to admit, if this were still 2006 people would be losing their shiat way more than they are
 
m00
2013-07-20 10:16:13 PM  

Penman: This is why every person with a family should own a gun, capable of piercing body armor.


it's what should happen. but what's actually going to happen is that the government will require that all citizens purchase a pair of handcuffs, and if the police bust down your door on a non-knock warrant you better handcuff yourself before the door caves in. Or you could legally get shot for being a threat.
 
2013-07-20 10:16:45 PM  
DrPainMD: Anybody who thinks that Americans today are somehow different from Soviets or Germans of the 1930s is delusional.

i5.photobucket.com
 
2013-07-20 10:19:13 PM  

m00: leadmetal:
Waiting to pull over in a "well lit area" or a area that is safe from traffic seems to really piss them off these days. Better to pull over immediately where they'll have their ass sticking out into traffic and likely get hit by truck. If they want you to go somewhere else they'll say something.

Thing is, if you do this cops have a right to shoot you. Well, when I did this the cop screamed at me with a gun in my face that he could shoot me at it would be justified. Think about that. After I was pulled over, he threatened to shoot me then and there because I didn't immediately pull over and instead drove about 50 feet into a parking lot. Because that was his right. In fact, he made it clear he could shoot me at any time and that was his prerogative.

Cops believe they have the right to shoot you if you don't obey some arbitrary rule they invent in their mind. Even much later when you clearly aren't a threat.

What was my crime? I had my front plates on the back and my back plates on the front (because I had just renewed my registration and had to put the plates on in the dark because I drove to school when it was still dark out).


Please tell me you filed a complaint with internal affairs (yeah I know, probably a waste if time, but at least it would be on the moran's record should he eventually make good on the threat) or better yet contacted the local press.

Every single tine one of these Jackholes oversees their authority we need to make the press aware of it. Get it in print and maybe one day the public will have enough of this shiat.
 
2013-07-20 10:19:34 PM  

davidphogan: I've been detained by police over the years several times, it's never shown up on any background check I've been through related to employment.


I've been told by an Officer that it's recorded every time he looks up my info is recorded, and that "too many" inquiries would be a red flag to employers.  If that's true, I'd imagine being detained or arrested would be a very big red flag, or was he misleading me?
 
2013-07-20 10:20:01 PM  

m00: sendtodave: An agent provocateur is a person employed to act undercover to entice or provoke another person to commit an illegal or rash act.

Yeah, but this isn't "rogue cop" evil. This is like... what the Egyptian government does.

There's a peaceful protest. You send in some undercover cops who throw rocks, damage property. Military comes in and kills/detains all the protestors because "they got violent."


Yeah, that's about right.

Why do you think that would happen in Egypt, but not at a protest in the US?
 
2013-07-20 10:21:37 PM  

phenn: BafflerMeal: Over the course of my life it seems to me that the general thuggery of good ol boy cops in the south has become the sop model for police actions in the us writ large.

Cops have been militarized - no secrets there. And, I doubt there's much the citizenry can do about it at this stage in the game. Outside of leaving the US, that is.


This is what happens when you vote for Democrats or Republicans.
 
2013-07-20 10:21:54 PM  

sendtodave: Penman: If I were her, I would have fired. No questions asked. If I end up dying, then at least it's in the cause of liberty.

Then this would have been a non-story...


Is anyone else concerned that this is already a non-story? Two reasons it's worrying me that, since Thursday, this has not been picked up by any other legit press:

1. The "real" news outlets actually did their investigation and found out that this lady's story is bullshirt.
2. Conspiracy theory.

Seriously... the only thing I can find on the web is low level blog sites and message boards re-hashing the HT story.

Something smells.
 
2013-07-20 10:22:26 PM  
Holographic Shimmering Pork: Dear Fark - the above post is analmost perfect example of how to deceive and manipulate others while attempting to appear objective, honest and authoritative. Farkers who've experienced any sort of psychologically abusive relationship will immediately recognize the tone and techniques used in said post -  artificial empathy, repeated affirmations of authority, qualitative verbiage, inappropriate usage of the passive form, etc.  There's nothing about this post that doesn't stink of an agenda wrapped in dishonesty.

Tutes is either in law enforcement or is heavily invested in someone who is. Which is it?


You sound like someone who is educated and knows rhetorical strategies.  Do you wear glasses also?

//totally not Pol Pot.
 
2013-07-20 10:24:25 PM  

Gyrfalcon: RINO: I'm about to go through a police academy, but events like this worry me. Articles like this and Radley Balko's new book (which is a great farking read, by the way) make me fear that I might have to take part in bullshiat like this.

Probably you will. And probably you'll like it and even enthusiastically participate; unless you're one of the ones who can't handle it and quit either during academy or in your rookie year.

Being a cop changes your entire outlook; cops are made, not born, most of the time, it's something to do with the uniform and the microculture they live in. Anyone who doesn't believe this needs to read "The Lucifer Effect", ZImbardo's book about how merely putting on a uniform and a pair of sunglasses turned a few college boys into stereotypical cop-thugs in less than 48 hours.


Joining the military didn't significantly change my outlook, so I don't see why becoming a police officer would. I even deal with a lot of the same crap they do (obviously to a lesser degree) in my current job as armed security. I figure if I can do both of those things without acting like an authoritarian meathead, I can act like a decent human being as a LEO.
 
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