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(WTOP)   Colorado town to issue hunting licenses and pay bounty for "killed" drones. For some reason the federal government has a problem with this   (wtop.com) divider line 31
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2013-07-20 04:03:28 PM
4 votes:

hardinparamedic: And to think, here I've been thinking that shooting at an aircraft, especially with the intent to shoot it down, has been a federal crime since we've had aviation laws on the book.


Traditionally, that's because shooting at an aircraft meant you were shooting at a person.  Same as shooting at a car.

It's going to be funny when some nutjob decides to try to do that, and either has it crash into a house and kill someone, or has the bullet come down right into a kid's head. Not ha-ha funny, but "Dumbass" funny.

I'm betting that won't really be a problem.  For the type of drone that you'd have any hope of downing by small arms fire, it would be small enough that it wouldn't be a serious hazard.  Plus, for that type of drone, you'd be using a shotgun firing birdshot, and I'll let you pelt me with birdshot to your hearts content from 150 yards away, so long as I get to wear my glasses.

Now, if you wanted to get *REAL* fancy, you could arm a large-ish radio control model aircraft with a semi-auto shotgun and equip it with one of those real-time cameras, and go hunting drones like a half-assed WWII fighter pilot.  That would be pretty safe:  The shot would pose no serious threat to anyone on the ground.

/You'd have to dedicate two servos:  One for the safety, and one for the trigger.
//Ask me about how GPS-enabled autonomous gliders could make Japanese balloon bombs a viable and cheap weapon.
2013-07-20 03:45:38 PM
3 votes:
Good thing there's no penalty for willful destruction of government property.
2013-07-20 02:58:45 PM
3 votes:
So, they want pay folks to shoot down drones, that their tax dollars fund, with funds raised by local taxes? Sounds like a fool proof, fiscally prudent plan...
2013-07-20 02:43:32 PM
3 votes:
Good thing drones can't shoot back
2013-07-20 04:30:22 PM
2 votes:

hubiestubert: So, they want pay folks to shoot down drones, that their tax dollars fund, with funds raised by local taxes? Sounds like a fool proof, fiscally prudent plan...


A Republican plan, obviously.
2013-07-20 04:20:06 PM
2 votes:

mutterfark: Serious question, could you bring them down with some kind of radio "jammer"?


You REALLY want to mess with the people at the FCC? Their methods are..unspeakable.

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2013-07-20 04:09:27 PM
2 votes:

dittybopper: Now, if you wanted to get *REAL* fancy, you could arm a large-ish radio control model aircraft with a semi-auto shotgun and equip it with one of those real-time cameras, and go hunting drones like a half-assed WWII fighter pilot.  That would be pretty safe:  The shot would pose no serious threat to anyone on the ground.


IIRC, that's also illegal according to the FAA for a civilian aircraft to carry air-to-air weaponry.
2013-07-20 03:12:39 PM
2 votes:

hardinparamedic: And to think, here I've been thinking that shooting at an aircraft, especially with the intent to shoot it down, has been a federal crime since we've had aviation laws on the book.

It's going to be funny when some nutjob decides to try to do that, and either has it crash into a house and kill someone, or has the bullet come down right into a kid's head. Not ha-ha funny, but "Dumbass" funny.


Or starts a forest fire that consumes a fair chunk of timber land. Yeah, that's going to make these folks SUPER popular...
2013-07-20 03:01:48 PM
2 votes:
And to think, here I've been thinking that shooting at an aircraft, especially with the intent to shoot it down, has been a federal crime since we've had aviation laws on the book.

It's going to be funny when some nutjob decides to try to do that, and either has it crash into a house and kill someone, or has the bullet come down right into a kid's head. Not ha-ha funny, but "Dumbass" funny.
2013-07-20 05:02:12 PM
1 votes:

SpiderQueenDemon: oldernell: They're easy to shoot down, but difficult to clean and they taste horrible.

This reminds me of the time my obnoxious vegan friend put a whole shiatload of Styrofoam deer sculptures she'd made with packages of what she considered delicious nonperishable vegan food and an 'isn't this nicer?' note in their hollow bellies into the forest the day before the first day of hunting season.

...And no, I have no idea why the hell we're friends. I think she might be my comic relief, really.


That's a rather involved prank.  But I can respect that kind of effort.
2013-07-20 04:52:18 PM
1 votes:
Meh....the Federal gov't needs biatchslapped sometimes.   This may be one of those times...
2013-07-20 04:48:00 PM
1 votes:
lol
Its also illegal to fire a rifle or deer slug into the air.  Good luck taking down a drone with bird-shot!
2013-07-20 04:38:21 PM
1 votes:
Here's a real gem from the aritcle:

The FAA... reminded the public that it regulates the nation's airspace, including the airspace over cities and towns.

He dismissed the FAA's warning. "The FAA doesn't have the power to make a law," he said.


That's some Grade A ignorance right there.
2013-07-20 04:36:18 PM
1 votes:

cptjeff: Under most circumstances, no. They're generally programed to just fly around in circles if they lose signal, but if there's a storm creating uneven pressure in the area, the automatic routines can't always keep up.


Even then, you're messing with powers that you really don't want to come down on you. You've just jammed a Government Satellite uplink.

The FCC and other Feds are going to drop the hammer on you.
2013-07-20 04:33:59 PM
1 votes:

Fallout Zone: How do they know what is a surveillance drone vs an unmanned aircraft from a university doing research?  Hell, CU-Boulder has a whole Center devoted to this:  http://recuv.colorado.edu/


Somehow, I don't think thinking and knowing things enters into it much.
2013-07-20 04:32:03 PM
1 votes:
How do they know what is a surveillance drone vs an unmanned aircraft from a university doing research?  Hell, CU-Boulder has a whole Center devoted to this:  http://recuv.colorado.edu/
2013-07-20 04:30:34 PM
1 votes:
Did they dust off their paranoid, "Shoot Down U.N. Black Helicopters" bill from the Clinton years, and just to a search/replace with "Drone"?  Paranoid white people are so predictable it's sad.
2013-07-20 04:27:47 PM
1 votes:
FYI, an R/C plane following a drone results in some serious one-on-one time with the State police...just saying.
2013-07-20 04:25:32 PM
1 votes:

oldernell: They're easy to shoot down, but difficult to clean and they taste horrible.


This reminds me of the time my obnoxious vegan friend put a whole shiatload of Styrofoam deer sculptures she'd made with packages of what she considered delicious nonperishable vegan food and an 'isn't this nicer?' note in their hollow bellies into the forest the day before the first day of hunting season.

...And no, I have no idea why the hell we're friends. I think she might be my comic relief, really.
2013-07-20 04:24:15 PM
1 votes:

hardinparamedic: hubiestubert: Or starts a forest fire that consumes a fair chunk of timber land. Yeah, that's going to make these folks SUPER popular...

Ah. So we go from destruction of Government property and shooting down an aircraft, to attempted murder and probably murder, given the average of at least one death during major forest fires.


Well, yeah, but hey $100.
2013-07-20 04:24:14 PM
1 votes:
It may not happen, but it does send a message to those writing the regulations.

Also, it's nice to see that after all the nine-eleven panic that people are valuing privacy again.
2013-07-20 04:22:00 PM
1 votes:
How dare they overfly my medicinal plant farm! That's a shooting.
2013-07-20 04:21:19 PM
1 votes:
Notabunny:Good thing drones can't shoot back yet.

FTFY
2013-07-20 04:19:27 PM
1 votes:

dittybopper: Now, if you wanted to get *REAL* fancy, you could arm a large-ish radio control model aircraft with a semi-auto shotgun and equip it with one of those real-time cameras, and go hunting drones like a half-assed WWII fighter pilot. That would be pretty safe: The shot would pose no serious threat to anyone on the ground.


Now that's a reality show I would watch.
2013-07-20 04:19:19 PM
1 votes:

mutterfark: dittybopper: hardinparamedic: And to think, here I've been thinking that shooting at an aircraft, especially with the intent to shoot it down, has been a federal crime since we've had aviation laws on the book.

Traditionally, that's because shooting at an aircraft meant you were shooting at a person.  Same as shooting at a car.

It's going to be funny when some nutjob decides to try to do that, and either has it crash into a house and kill someone, or has the bullet come down right into a kid's head. Not ha-ha funny, but "Dumbass" funny.

I'm betting that won't really be a problem.  For the type of drone that you'd have any hope of downing by small arms fire, it would be small enough that it wouldn't be a serious hazard.  Plus, for that type of drone, you'd be using a shotgun firing birdshot, and I'll let you pelt me with birdshot to your hearts content from 150 yards away, so long as I get to wear my glasses.

Now, if you wanted to get *REAL* fancy, you could arm a large-ish radio control model aircraft with a semi-auto shotgun and equip it with one of those real-time cameras, and go hunting drones like a half-assed WWII fighter pilot.  That would be pretty safe:  The shot would pose no serious threat to anyone on the ground.

/You'd have to dedicate two servos:  One for the safety, and one for the trigger.
//Ask me about how GPS-enabled autonomous gliders could make Japanese balloon bombs a viable and cheap weapon.

Mount the weapons on Helicat for even more awesome.:D

Serious question, could you bring them down with some kind of radio "jammer"?


Why jam it when you can take it over...

www.cbc.ca
2013-07-20 04:16:41 PM
1 votes:

dittybopper: hardinparamedic: And to think, here I've been thinking that shooting at an aircraft, especially with the intent to shoot it down, has been a federal crime since we've had aviation laws on the book.

Traditionally, that's because shooting at an aircraft meant you were shooting at a person.  Same as shooting at a car.

It's going to be funny when some nutjob decides to try to do that, and either has it crash into a house and kill someone, or has the bullet come down right into a kid's head. Not ha-ha funny, but "Dumbass" funny.

I'm betting that won't really be a problem.  For the type of drone that you'd have any hope of downing by small arms fire, it would be small enough that it wouldn't be a serious hazard.  Plus, for that type of drone, you'd be using a shotgun firing birdshot, and I'll let you pelt me with birdshot to your hearts content from 150 yards away, so long as I get to wear my glasses.

Now, if you wanted to get *REAL* fancy, you could arm a large-ish radio control model aircraft with a semi-auto shotgun and equip it with one of those real-time cameras, and go hunting drones like a half-assed WWII fighter pilot.  That would be pretty safe:  The shot would pose no serious threat to anyone on the ground.

/You'd have to dedicate two servos:  One for the safety, and one for the trigger.
//Ask me about how GPS-enabled autonomous gliders could make Japanese balloon bombs a viable and cheap weapon.


Mount the weapons on Helicat for even more awesome.:D

Serious question, could you bring them down with some kind of radio "jammer"?
2013-07-20 04:14:09 PM
1 votes:
Obviously this won't pass. But, good for them.

/is my redneck showing :/
2013-07-20 04:13:55 PM
1 votes:

itsumo: hubiestubert: So, they want pay folks to shoot down drones, that their tax dollars fund, with funds raised by local taxes? Sounds like a fool proof, fiscally prudent plan...

Well stated.


The law was ghost-written by the drone manufacturer's lobby.
2013-07-20 04:13:54 PM
1 votes:
They're easy to shoot down, but difficult to clean and they taste horrible.
2013-07-20 03:49:14 PM
1 votes:

hubiestubert: Or starts a forest fire that consumes a fair chunk of timber land. Yeah, that's going to make these folks SUPER popular...


Ah. So we go from destruction of Government property and shooting down an aircraft, to attempted murder and probably murder, given the average of at least one death during major forest fires.
2013-07-20 02:14:01 PM
1 votes:
Only a $100 bounty? Do they have any idea how much my surface to air missiles cost? Ridiculous.
 
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