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(Hot Air)   Another study shows that the link between fracking and ground water contamination is a myth. Thankfully the Party of Science(tm) has conceded to reality and will stop opposing it, right?   (hotair.com) divider line 18
    More: Unlikely, groundwater, drilling fluids, Western Pennsylvania, shocker, eco, methane, aquifers  
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2505 clicks; posted to Geek » on 20 Jul 2013 at 2:55 PM (1 year ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



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2013-07-20 11:34:52 AM
4 votes:
If fracking is so harmless, then why are they not required to disclose what they're pumping down there?  And why are they exempt from the Clean Water act?

One has to assume the worst.
2013-07-20 11:31:58 AM
4 votes:
http://hotair.com/about/

Oh yeah. Definitely sounds like a reputable group of people who most assuredly have their heads firmly in reality.
2013-07-20 12:33:36 PM
3 votes:
From the lab that did the report:


NETL Statement on Reported Fracking Study
July 19,2013, 12:15 p.m.

NETL has been conducting a study to monitor for any signs of groundwater contamination as a result of hydraulic fracturing operations at a site on the Marcellus Shale formation in Pennsylvania. We are still in the early stages of collecting, analyzing, andvalidating data from this site. While nothing of concern has been found thus far, the results are far too preliminary to make any firm claims. We expect a final report on the results by the end of the calendar year.

Contact:Shelley Martin, DOE National Energy Technology Laboratory, 304-285-0228,n­ewsin­f­o­[nospam-﹫-backwards]lte­n*do­e­*gov

http://www.netl.doe.gov/publications/press/2013/StudyStatement.pdf

But, yeah, let's make firm conclusions without the benefit of the full report.
2013-07-20 01:34:51 PM
2 votes:
2013-07-20 12:32:27 PM
2 votes:

NewportBarGuy: Too many people and groups want energy independence. Fracking will continue and we'll just see what that leads to 10-20 years from now.

Personally, I'm not a fan. But, I highly doubt the process will be stopped successfully with the number of jobs and the royalties/taxes and local spending they promise communities and states.


the thing is... Domestic oil extraction won't lead to energy independence unless the oil industry is nationalized, which will never happen.
2013-07-21 12:16:35 PM
1 votes:
"Pumping all sorts of toxic crap into the ground close to where people live and where underground reservoirs are will have absolutely no affect on anything at all. Why do you people keep insisting on worrying about your health and safety and the environment? Do you not want oil and gas and electricity?"
2013-07-21 09:53:15 AM
1 votes:
How can people not know about this issue? Gasland and Gasland 2 exist. If you haven't seen them, please do so. Then reexamine comments such as, "If fracking were a real danger, people would not allow it."

They have been trying to stop it, for years. Entire towns have been trying to stop it. Regardless of your political affiliation just take four hours and watch them both.
2013-07-20 11:23:10 PM
1 votes:
Republicans just can't stand the idea that safety concerns are getting in the way of profits.

When will America give corporations a break?
2013-07-20 11:04:25 PM
1 votes:
Start the fracking around Kennebunkport, and Cape Cod, and Naples, and La Jolla, and other places where the wealthy, super wealthy, and absurdly wealthy build and re-build their cavernous playhouses.  And especially wherever Dick Cheney has his supervillain lair out in Wyoming.  Do it there first.  Let them sign off on the "it's totally safe" thing.  Then let 'em work for five or six years.  Let 'em pump those secret chemicals into the ground long enough for us to know for sure whether this stuff is safe or not.  Let's watch the super wealthy and see if their hair falls out, and they get convulsions, and their tap water ignites.

Then I might start to put a tiny amount of credence in some farking right wing blog citing a "study" that says that fracking is safe.

Not holding my breath.
2013-07-20 09:42:29 PM
1 votes:

Mrbogey: Carth: Mrbogey: firefly212: They have burning water on the western slope of Colorado too... there's benzene in the water now... there didn't used to be... but the frackers say it's totally unrelated to all the benzene they pumped into the ground.

Ooo let me try. The state of North Pennsylvania was completely destroyed in 1996 by fracking. The industry then paid off everyone to shut up about it.

I love this "Make up facts" game you started.

Yes it is perfectly safe. Colorado has had no problems with fracking. Do you work for the oil/gas industry? You sure seem to hate people talking about the problems it has.

Right, you dishonestly state the case and think you're right. There was a spill into a river that was completely separate from fracking. That's like saying tsunami's cause radioactive fallout in Japan or flights out of Boston are responsible for the WTC building collapsing.

I hate it when morons spout off with passionate abandon things that are completely wrong. Ideally, if you stopped saying things that were wrong I wouldn't have a reason to post about fracking.


When coal plants accidentally dump tons and tons of coal ash, laden with heavy metals, that has nothing to do with the process of power generation, but it is a significant risk of coal power generation. Let's not do anything about anything and use the "overzealous staffer" type arguments though. What could go wrong?
2013-07-20 09:14:48 PM
1 votes:

Mrbogey: NeedlesslyCanadian: http://hotair.com/about/

Oh yeah. Definitely sounds like a reputable group of people who most assuredly have their heads firmly in reality.

Is it your belief that Hot Air did the scientific study? Perhaps you ought to read a bit more.


Well the study in question is not completed and has not made a conclusion, so perhaps you should read more yourself...beyond the aforementioned moron website. You dumbass.
2013-07-20 04:18:06 PM
1 votes:
Article written by an Erika Johnsen.

She also works for Townhall.com

so....  I'm calling BS.
2013-07-20 04:12:41 PM
1 votes:
It would be trivial to add a chemical tracer to fracking fluid that doesn't ever occur in nature. It's inexpensive and doesn't at all effect the performance of the fracking fluid. It would also make it extremely easy to determine if the fracking fluid is causing groundwater contamination or not.

I can't imagine why the fracking industry is so opposed to this.
2013-07-20 03:21:20 PM
1 votes:
Good idea. Lets rape the environment to extend the age of the combustion engine for another few decades. Under no circumstances should we wait and see what the long term consequences of fracking are.
2013-07-20 01:24:22 PM
1 votes:

Dancin_In_Anson: Target Builder: unless the oil industry is nationalized, which will never happen.

Thank Buddha, Allah, Brahma, Vishnu, Siva, trees, mushrooms, and Isadora Duncan.

Blues_X: Also, helps cause earthquakes.

Lockjaw and night vision too!



wat.
2013-07-20 12:18:33 PM
1 votes:
Man whoever wrote that thing sounds like a massive douchebag.
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-07-20 11:52:20 AM
1 votes:
Yes, Hot Air is reality and your flammable well water is just a hallucination.

That's some real trolling there.
2013-07-20 11:47:33 AM
1 votes:

Marcus Aurelius: If fracking is so harmless, then why are they not required to disclose what they're pumping down there?


Because "trade secret."

Marcus Aurelius: And why are they exempt from the Clean Water act?


Because $$$$$$$ HOLLAAAAAAAAAAA!
 
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