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2013-07-20 08:48:13 AM
Either I woke up too early or that was one boring arse article.
 
2013-07-20 08:48:58 AM
Steve Jobs didn't invent things, but he would prod buttock until he got an elegant product.

After all, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. He didn't flatter.
 
2013-07-20 08:49:37 AM
Plaster his name in the title, show his picture, then never mention his name in the article?

Go home Salon, you're drunk.
 
2013-07-20 08:50:46 AM
I missed the part where the hilarity ensued. Was it the part where Jobs was featured prominently in the headline but not mentioned in the article?
 
2013-07-20 08:54:11 AM
The American patent system is based on what Gar Alperovitz calls "the hero inventor" ideology, the belief that one man or woman working diligently and independently on a project drives innovation by upending the status quo.

I don't think it's that at all. I think the problem is a deliberately overworked and underfunded Patent Office that doesn't have the time to read patent applications that are deliberately written in a confusing, complicated way and so they end up granting overly broad patents. The intent is to stifle competition but every once in a while, one of these overly-broad patents comes back to bite a big company in the ass.
 
2013-07-20 08:54:36 AM
I did a quick find on that article's page, and Steve Jobs is only mentioned in the headline, the tags on the article, and the photo credit below.  He is not mentioned at all in the article.

Portrait of Salon's headline writer below:

static.freepik.com
 
2013-07-20 08:56:29 AM
Hilarity did not ensue.
 
2013-07-20 08:57:11 AM
Mmmm.... Other than "Steve Jobs" in the title, I didn't see any mention of him in the article. His Strength was marketing of other peoples ideas.
 
2013-07-20 08:57:54 AM

miss diminutive: Plaster his name in the title, show his picture, then never mention his name in the article?

Go home Salon, you're drunk.


How dare you insult the AW iHaters. They have a non-creative marketing purpose to this world. They're nearly as important as the people that try to publicly shame mototcyclists.
 
2013-07-20 08:58:15 AM
Hilarity ensued? Why? Did they say something about her husband and that affair he had while in the White House?
 
2013-07-20 08:59:56 AM
Steve Jobs was a great American entrepreneur who also thought that drinking more fruit juice would cure his pancreatic cancer holistically; cancer that was almost certainly caused by decades of a fruit and nut diet that pushed his pancreas past the breaking point.

There's a fine line between genius and insanity.  It's interesting how many great innovators stand on both sides.
 
2013-07-20 09:00:24 AM
Subby is a patent troll, standing on the shoulders of giants to monopolize a headline that makes no sense.
 
2013-07-20 09:04:04 AM
Our IP laws suck and so did that article.
 
2013-07-20 09:06:53 AM

Baron Harkonnen: Steve Jobs was a great American entrepreneur who also thought that drinking more fruit juice would cure his pancreatic cancer holistically; cancer that was almost certainly caused by decades of a fruit and nut diet that pushed his pancreas past the breaking point.

There's a fine line between genius and insanity.  It's interesting how many great innovators stand on both sides.


Reading Walter Isaacson's bio of Steve Jobs makes it sound like they succeeded as much despite him as because of him.  Take the iPhone 4, for example: Jobs insisted on having a metal band around its edges, which the engineers (rightfully) told him was a bad idea, because it would block radio signals.  He only budged enough to allow some openings to be put in that metal band, which then led to a problem where you could easily block that opening with your finger as you hold it and lose signal strength, sometimes enough to drop calls.  and then when that was questioned later, he gave his infamous "You're holding it wrong" response, which would have gotten any frontline iPhone support agent fired.  And there's much more like that, like the way his design demands made the original Macintosh far more expensive and underpowered (even by the standards of the day) than it should have been.

It's kind of interesting to think about, with all the "Apple is doooooooooooooooooooooomed without Steve Jobs!" trolls that seem to infest the tech press these days.
 
2013-07-20 09:08:35 AM
No clicks for the Brietbart of the left wing, thank you...
 
2013-07-20 09:17:14 AM

jake_lex: It's kind of interesting to think about, with all the "Apple is doooooooooooooooooooooomed without Steve Jobs!" trolls that seem to infest the tech press these days


Well they've moved from a phone where your hand can block calls to a phone where your hand can bend the aluminum casing through normal use, so I'm not sure if they're moving in the right direction.
 
2013-07-20 09:18:59 AM
Of course Jobs didn't make that. Wozniak did.

/ And our patent system sucks. As Buckminster Fuller said, the patent system should be used just for historical attribution, not to prevent people from using ideas.
 
2013-07-20 09:19:56 AM
Did Subby just get successfully trolled by Salon? Wow, that's got to sting, Subs.
 
2013-07-20 09:25:27 AM
I guess its possible that the article writer had a section relating directly to Steve Jobs that Salon removed.
 
2013-07-20 09:34:13 AM
I don't think the author of this article should be paid. He is only standing on the shoulders of every other crappy writer. We wouldn't even be able to read this article if not for DARPA.
 
2013-07-20 09:35:20 AM

miss diminutive: Plaster his name in the title, show his picture, then never mention his name in the article?

So he did what some people making submissions to Fark have done?

I wonder if the article writer is someone from Fark?
 
2013-07-20 09:46:20 AM
 
2013-07-20 09:46:38 AM

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: jake_lex: It's kind of interesting to think about, with all the "Apple is doooooooooooooooooooooomed without Steve Jobs!" trolls that seem to infest the tech press these days

Well they've moved from a phone where your hand can block calls to a phone where your hand can bend the aluminum casing through normal use, so I'm not sure if they're moving in the right direction.


This is the first time I've heard that the aluminum casing having a bending problem.
Citation please?
 
2013-07-20 09:52:31 AM

miss diminutive: Plaster his name in the title, show his picture, then never mention his name in the article?

Go home Salon, you're drunk.


Why won't subby READ?

dl.dropboxusercontent.com
 
2013-07-20 09:55:53 AM
Obligatory:

shirtshovel.com
 
2013-07-20 09:59:56 AM
"Innovators, in addition to standing up on the shoulders of giants, rarely work alone. Innovators often rely on massive funding by corporations like Bell Laboratories,  "

I don't claim to know much about this sort of thing, but would corporations provide this kind of funding if they weren't rewarded with patent protection in the end?
 
2013-07-20 10:01:49 AM

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: jake_lex: It's kind of interesting to think about, with all the "Apple is doooooooooooooooooooooomed without Steve Jobs!" trolls that seem to infest the tech press these days

Well they've moved from a phone where your hand can block calls to a phone where your hand can bend the aluminum casing through normal use, so I'm not sure if they're moving in the right direction.

This is the first time I've heard that the aluminum casing having a bending problem.
Citation please?


I'm surprised you ask this after publicly acknowledging you work full time for Samsung as a threadshiater.

/I guess that easy six figure salary keeps you busy with the toys that daddy refuses to buy, like that chrome-painted BMW.
 
2013-07-20 10:02:31 AM
The comments in that article point out why patent reform won't happen. Because COMMUNISM!!
 
2013-07-20 10:07:30 AM

Yakk: Either I woke up too early or that was one boring arse article.


It really was although the patent system does tend to be a pretty dry subject.  I have to admit the articles implied "Steve Jobs was a patent troll" thing is probably going to pay for Salon's hosting this month.
 
2013-07-20 10:09:49 AM

Yakk: Either I woke up too early or that was one boring arse article.


I don't know what time you got/woke up, but I'm going with the latter. I made it 1 1/2 paragraphs in and said FTS.
 
2013-07-20 10:10:22 AM

digistil: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: jake_lex: It's kind of interesting to think about, with all the "Apple is doooooooooooooooooooooomed without Steve Jobs!" trolls that seem to infest the tech press these days

Well they've moved from a phone where your hand can block calls to a phone where your hand can bend the aluminum casing through normal use, so I'm not sure if they're moving in the right direction.

This is the first time I've heard that the aluminum casing having a bending problem.
Citation please?

I'm surprised you ask this after publicly acknowledging you work full time for Samsung as a threadshiater.

/I guess that easy six figure salary keeps you busy with the toys that daddy refuses to buy, like that chrome-painted BMW.


Wait... he told you he makes six figures shilling on Fark?

And you believed him?

Hey, I've got this bridge in Brooklyn you may be interested in...
 
2013-07-20 10:13:48 AM

van1ty: "Innovators, in addition to standing up on the shoulders of giants, rarely work alone. Innovators often rely on massive funding by corporations like Bell Laboratories,  "

I don't claim to know much about this sort of thing, but would corporations provide this kind of funding if they weren't rewarded with patent protection in the end?


As an engineer in the corporate world with a number of patents. I'd say that the answer to your question is that yes, they would still fund development efforts just as much as they currently do.

Development is done primarily to provide your customer with a product that the competition does not have. Getting exclusive rights (excluding the competitor from providing the same product) is a bonus that comes after the fact.

Patent litigation is a royal PITA that pretty much consumes all the profit that any innovation produces. So to some extent, some new products do not get to market for fear that the competition will sue. Any new product comes with up-front costs for tooling and advertising. If the patent attorney cluck-clucks about the possibility of a lawsuit, the company will not invest that up-front money and the product will never see the light of day.
 
2013-07-20 10:14:26 AM
`Marconi' invented the radio - I've heard that all of my life. What most don't know is that his idea was based on 17 patents by Tesla. Most of todays technology is based on this guys inventions, patents and ideas.
 
2013-07-20 10:20:35 AM
Who does salon.com think they are, trolling their readers by blatantly insulting their most deeply held beliefs in a headline that has nothing to do with the article...

...slate.com?

/actually, it's understandable... I get them confused all the time, too
 
2013-07-20 10:23:36 AM
Patent trolls need to be reigned in. It's like domain parking. No website, no valid claim to the domain. No product, no valid claim to the patent. these companies spring up that buy these patents up and sit on them, then sue other companies for settlements.

It's an extortion scheme, plain and simple.
 
2013-07-20 10:39:31 AM
Wozniak was the genius behind the earliest Apple products. 35 comments an no one has mentioned him.
 
2013-07-20 10:41:02 AM

Baron Harkonnen: There's a fine line between genius and insanity.  It's interesting how many great innovators stand on both sides.


Based on Walter Isaacson's bio, Jobs was nothing more than a combination of a sociopath, good salesman and motivator. Also not very bright when his health or family was concerned. His cancer was a rare form of treatable pancreatic cancer but he chose to wait for a year and see if eating large quantities of fruit (which probably caused his condition in the first place) and "alternative medicine" will cure him. That decision almost certainly killed him.
 
2013-07-20 10:44:17 AM
Look again. He got mentioned in comment #17.
 
2013-07-20 10:51:35 AM

TappingTheVein: Baron Harkonnen: There's a fine line between genius and insanity.  It's interesting how many great innovators stand on both sides.

Based on Walter Isaacson's bio, Jobs was nothing more than a combination of a sociopath, good salesman and motivator. Also not very bright when his health or family was concerned. His cancer was a rare form of treatable pancreatic cancer but he chose to wait for a year and see if eating large quantities of fruit (which probably caused his condition in the first place) and "alternative medicine" will cure him. That decision almost certainly killed him.


He was an artist, but instead of technical skills with brush or pen he had skills with people and sales.  He would have ideas but need others with skill to realize them.

As for alternative medicine, there was also the political aspect. He stayed on a poor people waiting list and held off (until later and more desperate) on using the American Aristocrat system.

Or so I'm told.
 
2013-07-20 10:54:47 AM

Yakk: Either I woke up too early or that was one boring arse article.


It patently lacked inventiveness, that's for sure. I was reading about this years back. It's why I never bothered to improve my "Rag-onna-Stick" idea for Wal-Mart.
 
2013-07-20 10:56:47 AM
Salon trolled subby, who turned around and trolled us with the help of a trolly trolling mod.

Dammit 4:30 is just too farking early to get up and I'm going to be a cranky biatch today.

Stupid trolly trolls *grumble*
 
2013-07-20 10:56:54 AM
So basically congress takes something broke and makes it worse.

What else is new.
 
2013-07-20 11:02:54 AM

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: jake_lex: It's kind of interesting to think about, with all the "Apple is doooooooooooooooooooooomed without Steve Jobs!" trolls that seem to infest the tech press these days

Well they've moved from a phone where your hand can block calls to a phone where your hand can bend the aluminum casing through normal use, so I'm not sure if they're moving in the right direction.

This is the first time I've heard that the aluminum casing having a bending problem.
Citation please?


If you google it, there are a bunch of reports and articles of the case bending.

I only know about it because I had to return my new one the other week because it started warping at the volume key.
 
2013-07-20 11:04:03 AM

TheBigJerk: He was an artist, but instead of technical skills with brush or pen he had skills with people and sales.  He would have ideas but need others with skill to realize them


Yes, a good salesman and motivator. Like i said.

TheBigJerk: As for alternative medicine, there was also the political aspect. He stayed on a poor people waiting list and held off (until later and more desperate) on using the American Aristocrat system.

Or so I'm told.


No, he refuse to do the operation that would save his life long before there was a need for a transplant. There was no political aspect. He reached the desperate level of transplant because he was too stubborn, stupid or both to begin treatment the moment he was diagnosed with a very rare treatble form of cancer and opted to wait a year (!) and try eating fruits instead. This incredibly bad decision was what probably killed him.
 
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2013-07-20 11:25:36 AM
Baron Harkonnen : Steve Jobs was a great American entrepreneur who also thought that drinking more fruit juice would cure his pancreatic cancer holistically; cancer that was almost certainly caused by decades of a fruit and nut diet that pushed his pancreas past the breaking point.

You left out the part where he gamed the US organ transplant system to steal a liver from hundreds of other (non-rich) people actually interested in getting real medical care.

Steve Jobs may well have embodied the American Dream, but in a way that makes that not even remotely a compliment.

/ At least Bhopal happened by accident.
 
2013-07-20 11:41:18 AM
This far in and not a single mention of Edison? Fark, you are a disappoint.
 
2013-07-20 11:41:58 AM

Skyrmion: Our IP laws suck and so did that article.


Our patent system is royally farked but it's unfair to lump good faith businesses (™) and artists (©) in with the patent trolls.
 
2013-07-20 12:06:12 PM

Raging Whore Moans: Skyrmion: Our IP laws suck and so did that article.

Our patent system is royally farked but it's unfair to lump good faith businesses (™) and artists (©) in with the patent trolls.


True, those IP laws suck in an entirely different way

/Trademarks are a blunt cudgel, overly used to crush competition
//Copyright has become perpetual, spelling the end of common culture
 
2013-07-20 12:15:58 PM

MabalzIzari: `Marconi' invented the radio - I've heard that all of my life. What most don't know is that his idea was based on 17 patents by Tesla. Most of todays technology is based on this guys inventions, patents and ideas.



That's a particuarly good example.  Marconi was a much, MUCH better businessman than Tesla, and it's not widely known but many of Marconi's patents were voided in favor of Tesla - although that came too late for Tesla himself who died penniless.

Tesla was an unstable genius and they still talk about the night he blew up the Colorado Springs public power plant.

The line "We stand on the shoulders of Giants" was from Issac Newton, From Wikipedia:

If I have seen further it is by http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standing_on_the_shoulders_of_giants">s tanding on ye sholders of Giants.
Letter to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Hooke">Robert Hooke (15 February 1676) [dated as 5 February 1675 using the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_calendar">Julian calendar with March 25th rather than January 1st as New Years Day, equivalent to 15 February 1676 by Gregorian reckonings.] The phrase is most famous as an expression of Newton's but he was using a simile which in its earliest known form was attributed to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_of_Chartres">Bernard of Chartres by http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/John_of_Salisbury">John of Salisbury: Bernard of Chartres used to say that we [the Moderns] are like dwarves perched on the shoulders of giants [the Ancients], and thus we are able to see more and farther than the latter. And this is not at all because of the acuteness of our sight or the stature of our body, but because we are carried aloft and elevated by the magnitude of the giants.
 
2013-07-20 12:23:13 PM
I stopped reading when he began quoting Foucault.
 
2013-07-20 12:24:04 PM
All software patents should be abolished, but for things like pharmaceuticals patents are an absolute necessity.
 
2013-07-20 12:31:13 PM
For some reason the milquetoast liberalism sites favored by Apple users all have godawful design.  I'm looking at you, Salon, Slate, Rawstory, etc.  It is 2013; it is safe to retire the blink tag, bold monochrome rectangles, and over 9000 ad networks running slow JavaScript.
 
2013-07-20 12:45:35 PM
When I read headlines like this, I'm reminded that people hold stereotypes that I've never even heard of.   Like I don't make the connection between Salon and Apple.  I didn't know that was a thing I could stereotype.  What do Samsung users read?  Are they really into Newsmax or something?  Is that a thing?
 
2013-07-20 01:32:04 PM
Ah, yes, patents.  Climb to the shoulders of the nearest giant, then kick the ladder away.
 
2013-07-20 01:53:18 PM

jake_lex: Baron Harkonnen: Steve Jobs was a great American entrepreneur who also thought that drinking more fruit juice would cure his pancreatic cancer holistically; cancer that was almost certainly caused by decades of a fruit and nut diet that pushed his pancreas past the breaking point.

There's a fine line between genius and insanity.  It's interesting how many great innovators stand on both sides.

Reading Walter Isaacson's bio of Steve Jobs makes it sound like they succeeded as much despite him as because of him.  Take the iPhone 4, for example: Jobs insisted on having a metal band around its edges, which the engineers (rightfully) told him was a bad idea, because it would block radio signals.  He only budged enough to allow some openings to be put in that metal band, which then led to a problem where you could easily block that opening with your finger as you hold it and lose signal strength, sometimes enough to drop calls.  and then when that was questioned later, he gave his infamous "You're holding it wrong" response, which would have gotten any frontline iPhone support agent fired.  And there's much more like that, like the way his design demands made the original Macintosh far more expensive and underpowered (even by the standards of the day) than it should have been.

It's kind of interesting to think about, with all the "Apple is doooooooooooooooooooooomed without Steve Jobs!" trolls that seem to infest the tech press these days.


I thought they the metal band around the outside *was* the antenna. Was more than one antenna, in fact. And that the whole 'you're holding it wrong' was because you could bridge the gap between those two antenna's with your fingers.
 
2013-07-20 02:06:07 PM
"Thus Columbus is portrayed as "discovering" that the Earth was round, even though most intelligent people of his day knew it."
-=-
How does this sound familiar with some people today?

/Glad the story wasn't about Steve Jobs.
 
2013-07-20 02:25:23 PM
FTFA: Gar Alperovitz writes in "Unjust Deserts,"

Other unjust deserts: the Sahara, damned unjust; the Mohave, somewhat unjust; the Gobi, the go to unjust.

Oh you meant "Unjust Desserts"
 
2013-07-20 02:27:00 PM

HeartBurnKid: Raging Whore Moans: Skyrmion: Our IP laws suck and so did that article.

Our patent system is royally farked but it's unfair to lump good faith businesses (™) and artists (©) in with the patent trolls.

True, those IP laws suck in an entirely different way

/Trademarks are a blunt cudgel, overly used to crush competition
//Copyright has become perpetual, spelling the end of common culture


Physical property does not expire; why should intellectual property? If I inherit a house, I can charge rent on it indefinitely, as can my heirs. It does not become public property 50 (or however many years) after the original builder dies.

Capitalism. Don't you love it?
 
2013-07-20 02:30:56 PM
Has anyone seen the new cylinder shaped desktop Mac.  Looks beautiful and is as close to art as a PC straight out of a factory will get.

It also looks perfectly impossible to upgrade, and it belongs in a museum.  Surely not in a working office where clutter is a reality.

/I know upgradeable Mac PC is an oxymoron.
 
2013-07-20 02:44:50 PM
They are crazy like a fox. Give the pot a stir before you go on vacation and it'll still be bubbling when you get back.

Free content! Free content! Souuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuueeeeeeee! Come and get your swill or we'll feed it to the Freepers!

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Total Fark. Only $5 a month. For those who like their crap piled higher and derper.


Yeah, we know who we are, so it's not technically a con, like Fox News or Rush Limbaugh.
 
2013-07-20 03:45:03 PM
No, they lost most of those readers when they went apeshiat on a Patton Oswalt joke last week.
 
2013-07-20 04:11:44 PM

NutWrench: The American patent system is based on what Gar Alperovitz calls "the hero inventor" ideology, the belief that one man or woman working diligently and independently on a project drives innovation by upending the status quo.

I don't think it's that at all. I think the problem is a deliberately overworked and underfunded Patent Office that doesn't have the time to read patent applications that are deliberately written in a confusing, complicated way and so they end up granting overly broad patents. The intent is to stifle competition but every once in a while, one of these overly-broad patents comes back to bite a big company in the ass.


That's a problem with every federal bureau though. Our natl gov is grossly underfunded practically everywhere you look outside of the Military, Intelligence, and the FBI.
 
2013-07-20 04:14:05 PM
FTA [Comments]: So focused is this commie author on describing all innovation as collective that he misses the real problem with US intellectual property law: it currently puts all the IP power in the hands of middlemen who don't produce anything. To fix it, we need to give the power back to the actual artists and inventors, not transfer it from middlemen to bureaucrats.

This... THIS, America, is why you cannot have nice things.

You fear communism[or at least you think you do], but you have absolutely no grasp or concept of what communism actually is.
 
2013-07-20 04:26:36 PM

Mach10: FTA [Comments]: So focused is this commie author on describing all innovation as collective that he misses the real problem with US intellectual property law: it currently puts all the IP power in the hands of middlemen who don't produce anything. To fix it, we need to give the power back to the actual artists and inventors, not transfer it from middlemen to bureaucrats.

This... THIS, America, is why you cannot have nice things.

You fear communism[or at least you think you do], but you have absolutely no grasp or concept of what communism actually is.


And all communist countries are heavenly, with no hunger, no repression, no militarism, all citizen wants satisfied, all needs fulfilled, no disease, no discord, and no crime.

America has a great deal of nice things. What communist country do you actually live in?

Let me guess, you're one of those armchair "communists" who indulges in the "no true Scotsman" fallacy whenever someone points out the reality of communism in application. That works both ways. If one can claim that there are no "truly communist countries" upon which to base a conclusion, one can equally as validly argue that there are "no true capitalist countries", either. This is because, even in the USA, there has always been some level of government regulation and taxation. Likewise, government in the USA has been in charge of postal services, roads, police, defense, etc., In a purely capitalist country, these would all be run by privately-owned companies.
 
2013-07-20 06:53:32 PM
Suicide Nets.

That is all.
 
2013-07-20 06:55:11 PM

Mach10: FTA [Comments]: So focused is this commie author on describing all innovation as collective that he misses the real problem with US intellectual property law: it currently puts all the IP power in the hands of middlemen who don't produce anything. To fix it, we need to give the power back to the actual artists and inventors, not transfer it from middlemen to bureaucrats.

This... THIS, America, is why you cannot have nice things.

You fear communism[or at least you think you do], but you have absolutely no grasp or concept of what communism actually is.


Oh, look everyone, it's THAT guy again.  What do we say to that guy? That's right - go eat a bowl of dicks, bootlicker!
 
2013-07-20 09:10:59 PM
Rosseau, Zizek, and Foucault? I feel like TFA should be part of a drinking game.


jake_lex
It's kind of interesting to think about, with all the "Apple is doooooooooooooooooooooomed without Steve Jobs!" trolls that seem to infest the tech press these days.

It's because Apple is a cult.
 
2013-07-20 09:46:08 PM
Wow. Quoting Foucault like that makes you right like a sophomore philosophy student. This is the left-wing version of Ayn Rand.
 
2013-07-20 09:46:48 PM
(BTW, I meant "right," not "write")
 
2013-07-20 10:06:42 PM

digistil: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: jake_lex: It's kind of interesting to think about, with all the "Apple is doooooooooooooooooooooomed without Steve Jobs!" trolls that seem to infest the tech press these days

Well they've moved from a phone where your hand can block calls to a phone where your hand can bend the aluminum casing through normal use, so I'm not sure if they're moving in the right direction.

This is the first time I've heard that the aluminum casing having a bending problem.
Citation please?

I'm surprised you ask this after publicly acknowledging you work full time for Samsung as a threadshiater.

/I guess that easy six figure salary keeps you busy with the toys that daddy refuses to buy, like that chrome-painted BMW.


I guess Samsung is gonna be pissed when they find out I have an iPhone 5.
Just because someone does not think Apple is infallible, does not mean they shill for another company.

And I drive a Mercedes that is not chrome plated.
 
2013-07-21 01:55:10 AM
Steve Jobs was a waffle.
 
2013-07-21 03:23:37 AM

ZeroCorpse: Steve Jobs was a waffle.


Steve Jobs was GREAT!!!

a GREAT... waffle. God, I've always loved ordering 2 Steve Jobs topped with blueberry syrup and heavily slathered in butter. But that's just me.

No really. Steve Jobs was great, and really helped develop Apple into a powerhouse. He didn't do it alone, but he directed it to that greatness. And he was a designer, and an idiosyncratic OCD tyrannical nutjob, but that doesn't preclude greatness. Most of all, beyond designing the products, he designed the audience. That was his true genius. A whole generation raised on Apple products in their schools. A culture that defines Apple products as "smart" and "hip" by name and look alone. I've will admit that they were a step ahead in the touchscreen department of their phones... it was head and shoulders above other touchscreens in responsiveness at the time. However, having had to help develop third party products for iPhones, lemme tell ya... the genius is definitely in cornering the rules... cornering the branding... cornering the consumer.
 
2013-07-21 06:22:49 AM
Steve Jobs is to invention and innovation as China is to... invention and innovation.
 
2013-07-21 08:54:39 AM

orbister: HeartBurnKid: Raging Whore Moans: Skyrmion: Our IP laws suck and so did that article.

Our patent system is royally farked but it's unfair to lump good faith businesses (™) and artists (©) in with the patent trolls.

True, those IP laws suck in an entirely different way

/Trademarks are a blunt cudgel, overly used to crush competition
//Copyright has become perpetual, spelling the end of common culture

Physical property does not expire; why should intellectual property? If I inherit a house, I can charge rent on it indefinitely, as can my heirs. It does not become public property 50 (or however many years) after the original builder dies.

Capitalism. Don't you love it?


I like your house, so I will buy the lot next door, tear down the existing structure, and build my house to the exact specs yours was built to, copying it as close as I can possibly come.  I can have the house I want, without having to pay the actual owner a single penny!
 
2013-07-21 02:29:12 PM

orbister: HeartBurnKid: Raging Whore Moans: Skyrmion: Our IP laws suck and so did that article.

Our patent system is royally farked but it's unfair to lump good faith businesses (™) and artists (©) in with the patent trolls.

True, those IP laws suck in an entirely different way

/Trademarks are a blunt cudgel, overly used to crush competition
//Copyright has become perpetual, spelling the end of common culture

Physical property does not expire; why should intellectual property? If I inherit a house, I can charge rent on it indefinitely, as can my heirs. It does not become public property 50 (or however many years) after the original builder dies.

Capitalism. Don't you love it?


Physical property and "intellectual property" are two entirely different things.  For example, if I own a house, I can't sue you because your house looks too similar to mine, or even if you deliberately set out to copy my house.

And copyright isn't capitalism.  Capitalism involves the trading of money for goods and services, with values fluctuating based upon the scarcity of the good or service.  Copyright is the creation of a monopoly on a non-scarce good by government fiat.
 
2013-07-21 09:35:19 PM
SO why are they using a cut out schematic of a Hydril GK style Annular that at least 3 other companies make?
 
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