Confabulat: gingerjet: Confabulat: and i'm really shocked that 16 year old minimum wage workers might not be the best people to trust with my life?And I'm not shocked you have no clue how these things work. That 16 year old is just another part of the operational aspect of the ride. And they are interchangeable. If something fails its not their fault - its the fault of the people who designed the operations around that ride. If you ever noticed at Disney or Universal parks there is never one single person who gives the go ahead - there are multiple.Yeah, multiple 16 year olds working for minimum wage bored and half-assed. I've spent a little time in theme parks.
drayno76: I rode this coaster on opening day. I hated it then but the old man insisted it would be a historic event. In other news, no one evergave a shat and I think that damn ride gave me a concussion from how much it shook and bounced. When I rode it, the restraints werethe 'click' kind, I have no idea since they remodeled it. I kind of quit riding coasters after working at one. Safety comes like 9th or 10thon those things. Cracked out carnies running them too. No thanks.
Lt. Cheese Weasel: A very rough ride when it had wood rails. They went steel but nothing else. I rode it ONCE. On wood back in the day. Never again.
Lt. Cheese Weasel: HempHead: The last time I rode the Texas Giant I almost lost the fillings out of my teeth. I think a chiropractor should set up an office at the exit to offer back adjustments.This, one rough biatch. I rode it because my party shamed me into it. I hate coasters. I hate airplanes for the same reason. My life is suspect and in the hands of others who are either making 8 bucks an hour or alot more and haven't slept in the last 36 hours. I'll take the bus, you can have your zero G nonsense.
Confabulat: jaytkay: Arlington residents gather to pay their final respects[media-cache-ak1.pinimg.com image 550x343]Ha, I could not remember why in the hell I knew what Arlington, Texas is. Rusty Shackleford is on the case!
farkingismybusiness: "Brown said the victim's young son was riding with his mother."[www.thehouseworkcanwait.com image 500x275]
Seige101: You have to be 18 to operate the rideAll rides are inspected daily before the park opens and the public rides themMaintenance does an inspection and then the ride operators do an inspection./getting a kick out of these comments
mrswood: The comments in the actual article are terrible. You can't blame the stupid kid for this, he didn't design the coaster and is not responsible for maintenance.
Neighborhood Watch: There's actually an entire industry around inspecting amusement park rides for safety. The insurance companies demand it. Six Flags has insurance for this sort of thing. I guarantee it. I also guarantee that the ride has passed one inspection after another.Will money be paid out? Oh, yeah! But nobody new is going to own Six Flags.
She sounds fat.
RyansPrivates: A sad thing about this, among many, is that the kids that check them before the ride starts may very well be feeling responsible for the whole deal. As has been said, there are multiple checks put in place, and to pin it on this one kid is a shiatty thing to do. He or she will probably need some counseling.Human nature has us wanting to blame / place negligence somewhere. A few from this thread:- The person riding (too fat!)- the kid who was supposed to check to ensure the riders were secure (too young, he/she is to blame!)- the engineers of the ride (you need to see a chiropractor afterwords, it is too rough a ride!)- etcMaybe some of these are valid, or more than likely, there are multiple failures in the system. Another possibliity is that all precautions truly were taken and the damn thing just broke. (A gear slipped that wouldn't have been caught even on a deep inspection, for example). Amusement park rides are risky, but it usually controlled risk. But you can't remove risk from it entirely; too many variables. Or you can go the Wargames route: the only winning move is not to play.Regardless, there is a kid that is going to have to get to sleep tonight after seeing her mother fall to her death. That is the really shiatty thing. And we may never get a satisfactory explanation. I hope we do, at least for that kids sake, though.
Confabulat: and i'm really shocked that 16 year old minimum wage workers might not be the best people to trust with my life?
DirtyDeadGhostofEbenezerCooke: Neighborhood Watch: There's actually an entire industry around inspecting amusement park rides for safety. The insurance companies demand it. Six Flags has insurance for this sort of thing. I guarantee it. I also guarantee that the ride has passed one inspection after another.Will money be paid out? Oh, yeah! But nobody new is going to own Six Flags.The insurance company will pay for the results of a flawed inspection and an equipment failure. It will also pay for an employee not correctly securing a rider.If there is a jury trial, what is going to redline the punitive damages is the overheard 'Everything is fine' after the rider expressed concerned. It doesn't matter whether it's been said a million times before and always been right. That emotional bullet point is fatal.
derpy: Confabulat: and i'm really shocked that 16 year old minimum wage workers might not be the best people to trust with my life?amusement park workers are paid less than minimum wage.They get the same "seasonal" minimum that migrant farm workers do. Think about THAT.
Oldiron_79: Only clicked once? I'm gonna guess obese passenger.
buserror: mrswood: The comments in the actual article are terrible. You can't blame the stupid kid for this, he didn't design the coaster and is not responsible for maintenance.The "stupid kid" was an employee responsible for ensuring people are properly secured, and when a problem was brought to his attention, he blew it off without checking. Sure, there's plenty of blame for Six Flags for not properly training their employees and/or hiring untrustworthy (a.k.a. cheap) employees, and for having equipment that failed in the first place, but that doesn't excuse the employee's (lack of) action when attention was called to the problem.
almandot: I can't think of a time that someone said to the operator "I don't think it lathed right" or "it's too tight" and they didnt hit the release to let them do it again.
DirtyDeadGhostofEbenezerCooke: UsikFark: the victim expressed concern to a park employee that her harness only clicked once when it was lowered into place, unlike the multiple clicks heard when others were strapped in."He was basically nonchalant," Brown said. "He was, like, 'As long as you heard it click, you're fine. Hers was the only one that went down once, and she didn't feel safe. But they let her still get on the ride."They're not gonna have Jack Lemmon running a roller coaster.Too bad about her kid being on the ride next to her when she fell off. On the bright side, he'll soon be the owner of a Six Flags!
jst3p: Well, there is a good chance that she was a young earth creationist pro-lifer. Let's be positive her.
TOSViolation: jst3p: Well, there is a good chance that she was a young earth creationist pro-lifer. Let's be positive her.At least we all know there is a 100% chance you're an idiot.
jtown: Oldiron_79: Only clicked once? I'm gonna guess obese passenger.My thought as well. I'm a one-clicker on some rides, myself. But one click should be fine. Locked is locked. Even if you're five clicks deep, if the mechanism breaks, it's broke. It's not like there are 5 independent locking mechanisms, each stronger than the one before.
jst3p: TOSViolation: jst3p: Well, there is a good chance that she was a young earth creationist pro-lifer. Let's be positive her.At least we all know there is a 100% chance you're an idiot.You are bad at math, there is some degree of chance that it is a simple typo. Are you from Texas? I hear math and cognitive reasoning aren't real big there.
mjones73: skinink: Heard one "Squaaaaack!". Wasn't okay.[cdn.wl.uproxx.com image 650x475]Fun coaster, never had a bird hit me in the face on it.. :D
fusillade762: Oldiron_79: Only clicked once? I'm gonna guess obese passenger.Yeah, I was gonna guess "fat", too. But either way, they let her ride anyway. You can bet that's going to be a lawsuit.
SpiderQueenDemon: I was once a ride-op on a wooden coaster at one point in my misspent youth. This was at a much nicer park than any of the Six Flags, if I do say so myself. Our Standard Operating Procedure was to check belts and bars TWICE, once down the train for belts and once up the train for bars, and we'd go back and triple-check the restraint if a guest seemed scared.This was for three reasons:1. Even if it was nothing, taking the time to check it, give them a smile and reassure them made our team, and by extension the coaster, the park, young college kids in general, look awesome, and it helped our survey numbers.2. A scared guest could be scared for several reasons, up to and including 'foreign person who was completely unfamiliar with seatbelts' or 'little kid who should be given a line pass so he can go and pee BEFORE riding.'3. Our Team Leader had once spotted a 'scared' guest who had come alone, undone his belt and used his knee to prop the bar up when it locked. TL caught this from the guy's facial expression alone, refused the 'clear' and signed to the team from Control to third-check him. The extra "you okay there, buddy?" caused the guest to first panic, then burst into sobs. Turned out the poor guest was suicidal, deep in debt, and his plan had been to kill himself on a coaster so his family would get a settlement from the park.This happened on a surprisingly regular basis. We got about three Suicidals a season on our ride alone and there was coaster-sign for it.There was a reason why we called our TL 'Fearless Leader.' He had this remarkable gut ability to sense a problem before it happened, bring it to our attention with coaster-sign and head it off before something quirky became a whole can of worms. I saw him catch a kid guest who was about to puke, two different suicidals, an epileptic in moments-to-seizure mode and like five Chessmen a week. Great guy, looked after every member of his team like we were his own siblings. We would've done anything he asked and nobody could say a word against him in our hearing.Working at an amusement park may sound fun and all, but it's quite Serious Business. Some people come back from the experience changed for life.
EmmaLou: I am deathly afraid of rollercoasters (well, any rides really) and this is one if the reasons why. I'll happily hold the coats and bags while everyone gets a go on the death traps though.
Bathysphere: What's a chessmen?
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