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2013-07-20 01:16:58 AM  
Buy Acme Anal Cream, good for random cases of butthurt
 
2013-07-20 02:33:49 AM  
Psychology majors have to make a living somehow.

/ducks
 
2013-07-20 02:45:48 AM  
Um, lawyers may charge the client $400+ dollars per hour. Most of that money goes straight to court fees, private court reporters, copy guys, rent, paychecks for secretaries, local hookers . . .
 
2013-07-20 02:48:18 AM  
I must be doing it wrong. After the last time I was a "play-date consultant" I only ended up getting 40c an hour in the license plate shop.
 
2013-07-20 02:48:27 AM  
I would say this is silly, but then I thought about how babies grow up observing their parents interact more with their phones than with other humans and suddenly it started to make sense.
 
2013-07-20 02:50:39 AM  
Makes me has a sad that there are rich people out there who would hire a service like this and willingly pay them $400 an hour because they're unwilling to parent, like they were willing to fark to make the kid; but also own a business and have an average wage for those employees leveled out around $9 an hour, even though their employees do more for that rich man than the snot nosed kid they didn't want.
 
2013-07-20 02:51:56 AM  

HotWingAgenda: Um, lawyers may charge the client $400+ dollars per hour. Most of that money goes straight to court fees, private court reporters, copy guys, rent, paychecks for secretaries, local hookers . . .


Actually from the couple of bills I've seen, the only thing you list that they don't bill separately for is the rent. Everything else is extra on top of their own time.
 
2013-07-20 02:55:35 AM  
Play Date Consultant? Oww! I just rolled my eyes so hard that I think I sprained something inside my head.
 
2013-07-20 02:59:46 AM  
5. Being dead awesome at your job consulting.
6. Stripper.
 
2013-07-20 03:00:26 AM  

Lith: HotWingAgenda: Um, lawyers may charge the client $400+ dollars per hour. Most of that money goes straight to court fees, private court reporters, copy guys, rent, paychecks for secretaries, local hookers . . .

Actually from the couple of bills I've seen, the only thing you list that they don't bill separately for is the rent. Everything else is extra on top of their own time.


Yup.  Postage, envelope, manila folder, copy service, legal assistant research time, secretary called to get a phone number, asked secretary to call to get a phone number, etc.
 
2013-07-20 03:02:01 AM  

HotWingAgenda: Um, lawyers may charge the client $400+ dollars per hour. Most of that money goes straight to court fees, private court reporters, copy guys, rent, paychecks for secretaries, local hookers . . .


Don't know what lawyer you use, but I get billed for everything under the sun.
 
2013-07-20 03:02:17 AM  
Dont forget high end prostitute
 
m00
2013-07-20 03:04:10 AM  
I'm not against the rich, but I am against people gaining their wealth by dishonest or anti-capitalist means. Since this is New York, we're probably talking about investment bankers. If it were DC, it would be government contractors.

So I am saying if these parasites don't stop spending their vast wealth in asinine ways there's going to be some social accountability down the line when the proles get fed up enough to start voting in serious wealth re-distributors. Because these people didn't get rich by writing an awesome app or making an awesome movie or buying a chain of laundromats. They got rich by making risky bets with other people's money, failing, and getting bailed out with those same people's tax dollars (who already lost everything). If these "posh Manhattanites" are spending $400 for this nonsense, then clearly the only lesson they learned from the banking/mortgage crisis is that they are a government-protected privileged class.
 
2013-07-20 03:11:14 AM  
If this service were only, say,  a hundred dollars an hour, everybody and their filthy brother would be signing up for it.

That kind of defeats the whole purpose of exclusivity, no?
 
2013-07-20 03:14:09 AM  
So the question I'd have to ask is: Does this stuff really work?  Like the whole Preschool -> private -> Ivy League -> actual rich job thing?  Because I'd really, really hate to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on private schooling (and stuff like TFA) to just have it go to waste.

What do kids do when they drop out of this system?  Do they commit suicide like the kids in Japan?  Because there's MAYBE 20,000 spots each year in Ivy League schools (and from everything I've heard, the schools are artificially limiting the number of acceptances from the "elite" neighborhoods).
 
2013-07-20 03:14:43 AM  
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2013-07-20 03:16:43 AM  
m00: I'm not against the rich, but [class warfare rant redeacted]
 
2013-07-20 03:25:31 AM  

m00: I'm not against the rich, but I am against people gaining their wealth by dishonest or anti-capitalist means. Since this is New York, we're probably talking about investment bankers. If it were DC, it would be government contractors.

So I am saying if these parasites don't stop spending their vast wealth in asinine ways there's going to be some social accountability down the line when the proles get fed up enough to start voting in serious wealth re-distributors. Because these people didn't get rich by writing an awesome app or making an awesome movie or buying a chain of laundromats. They got rich by making risky bets with other people's money, failing, and getting bailed out with those same people's tax dollars (who already lost everything). If these "posh Manhattanites" are spending $400 for this nonsense, then clearly the only lesson they learned from the banking/mortgage crisis is that they are a government-protected privileged class.


Can I subscribe to your newsletter?
 
2013-07-20 03:28:07 AM  

jtown: Lith: HotWingAgenda: Um, lawyers may charge the client $400+ dollars per hour. Most of that money goes straight to court fees, private court reporters, copy guys, rent, paychecks for secretaries, local hookers . . .

Actually from the couple of bills I've seen, the only thing you list that they don't bill separately for is the rent. Everything else is extra on top of their own time.

Yup.  Postage, envelope, manila folder, copy service, legal assistant research time, secretary called to get a phone number, asked secretary to call to get a phone number, etc.


divx88: HotWingAgenda: Um, lawyers may charge the client $400+ dollars per hour. Most of that money goes straight to court fees, private court reporters, copy guys, rent, paychecks for secretaries, local hookers . . .

Don't know what lawyer you use, but I get billed for everything under the sun.


You guys are getting hosed, then. Attorneys' fees are high because they're supposed to be used to cover all of the administrative costs of doing business as an attorney. There are certain costs that should get broken out separately, but only if they're recoverable for specific work in that specific case (like if your attorney hires someone to make a digital rendering to show the jury). Generally speaking, it's bad practice for an attorney to separately bill the client at attorney rates for clerical work that secretaries do. An attorney's bill is like a concert ticket. Some of your money goes to the band, but most of it goes to all the people you don't see that made the show happen. All you see, for the most part, is the big number you pay. You don't see how much goes to the lawyer's malpractice insurance, or all of his Rutter guide subscriptions.
 
2013-07-20 03:32:45 AM  
TFA: These pricy pre-planned play times are monitored by instructors who teach them the proper way to socialize with their well-heeled peers in order to maximize their chances of getting into New York's elite private schools.

So, this has nothing to do with playing or the child's actual healthy development, and everything to do with passing an absurd admissions interview for kindergarten in which kids' social skills are "tested" on dubious metrics to supply the appearence that enrollees were chosen on merit. Do rich people truly fall for this system, or are all participants in it only because that's the way the game is played? I'm not sure which is worse.

I do so wonder about the activities of the better classes.
 
2013-07-20 03:33:06 AM  

letrole: m00: I'm not against the rich, but [class warfare rant redeacted]


its only class warfare when the poor fight back.
 
2013-07-20 03:49:44 AM  

Oldiron_79: Dont forget high end prostitute


They prefer the term "courtesan."
 
2013-07-20 04:09:38 AM  
pacified: its only class warfare when the poor fight back

class warfare is not real.

class warfare is imagined by those who either fail to achieve through lack of talent, or by those who have feelings of guilt for inherited and unearned wealth.

class warfare is the socioeconomic equivalent of sexual harrasment.
 
2013-07-20 04:16:45 AM  

letrole: pacified: its only class warfare when the poor fight back

class warfare is not real.

class warfare is imagined by those who either fail to achieve through lack of talent, or by those who have feelings of guilt for inherited and unearned wealth.

class warfare is the socioeconomic equivalent of sexual harrasment.


that's why all the people who caused the 2008 economic crash are in jail, right?
 
m00
2013-07-20 04:23:08 AM  

letrole: m00: I'm not against the rich, but [class warfare rant redeacted]


Are you trolling or what?
 
2013-07-20 04:36:19 AM  
m00: Are you trolling or what?

Your post was the equivalent of claiming not to be racist, using a qualifying 'but', and then telling a racist joke.

Your post was the equivalent of claiming to condemn terorrism, using a qualifying 'but', and then providing a full justification for the motivations of a suicide bomber.

Your post was the equivalent of stating X, using a qualifying 'but', and then going full !X.
 
2013-07-20 04:38:47 AM  
Man, fark these people.
 
2013-07-20 04:49:07 AM  

letrole: m00: Are you trolling or what?

Your post was the equivalent of claiming not to be racist, using a qualifying 'but', and then telling a racist joke.

Your post was the equivalent of claiming to condemn terorrism, using a qualifying 'but', and then providing a full justification for the motivations of a suicide bomber.

Your post was the equivalent of stating X, using a qualifying 'but', and then going full !X.


Reading comprehension fail. OP clearly stated a number of acceptable ways to become rich ("by writing an awesome app or making an awesome movie or buying a chain of laundromats "), however investment banking was explicitly not one of them.
 
2013-07-20 04:49:21 AM  
letrole: class warfare is the socioeconomic equivalent of sexual harrasment.

pacified: that's why all the people who caused the 2008 economic crash are in jail, right?


sexual harrasment occurs when the wrong man flirts and stares at your titties
 
2013-07-20 04:49:23 AM  

Archie Goodwin: I must be doing it wrong. After the last time I was a "play-date consultant" I only ended up getting 40c an hour in the license plate shop.


+1
 
2013-07-20 04:59:08 AM  

Lith: HotWingAgenda: Um, lawyers may charge the client $400+ dollars per hour. Most of that money goes straight to court fees, private court reporters, copy guys, rent, paychecks for secretaries, local hookers . . .

Actually from the couple of bills I've seen, the only thing you list that they don't bill separately for is the rent. Everything else is extra on top of their own time.


You betcha. The client pays for all that other stuff, yeah; but ON TOP OF the $400+ an hour.
 
2013-07-20 05:12:31 AM  
Wait a moment.

I think this may be exactly what Sunday School teachers and Jewish Community Center volunteers do with kids, only for $400/hour instead of 'free.'

...The Unitarian Universalists are totally cool with raising a kid atheist, incidentally. (Imagine 'Our Lady of TED Talks, A Really Neat Book the Pastor Found Recently, and Oh, Yes, Any Religion You Like Is Also Cool.' That's the UU in a nutshell.) And all three of the above playdate-facilitaty places also have snacks and coloring. Hell, at my church we have a trebuchet that the fifth-graders built and there's free coffee for adults.

/I don't object to rich people's being rich, but I object to them being shiatty with money.
 
2013-07-20 05:20:53 AM  

HotWingAgenda: Um, lawyers may charge the client $400+ dollars per hour. Most of that money goes straight to court fees, private court reporters, copy guys, rent, paychecks for secretaries, local hookers . . .


This. Lawyers that aren't 110% morally corrupt don't actually take home anywhere near that.
 
2013-07-20 05:31:03 AM  

letrole: pacified: its only class warfare when the poor fight back

class warfare is not real.

class warfare is imagined by those who either fail to achieve through lack of talent due to smiting God, or by those who have feelings of guilt for inherited and unearned wealth ancestors that smote God.

class warfare is the socioeconomic equivalent of sexual harrasment denying your bride's virginity to your lord.


- Edward I of England
 
2013-07-20 05:32:16 AM  

digistil: This. Lawyers that aren't 110% morally corrupt don't actually take home anywhere near that.


Apparently I married a more than 110% morally corrupt lawyer. Score.
 
2013-07-20 05:41:14 AM  
They could save $400/hour by actually interacting with their kids!
 
2013-07-20 05:45:01 AM  
my biggest failing in life was being born out of the wrong vagina.
 
2013-07-20 05:46:27 AM  

FarkinNortherner: digistil: This. Lawyers that aren't 110% morally corrupt don't actually take home anywhere near that.

Apparently I married a more than 110% morally corrupt lawyer. Score.


The seven figure annual take home will allow you to buy many things to help you forget. ;)
 
2013-07-20 05:51:54 AM  
Moms?  One of these days, your little accessory is going to hit puberty and become interested in other aspects of their lives outside of providing you with "well MY PRECIOUS BABY has.." stories for the other vain, competitive cows you hang out with when you should be raising your kids.  50.00 says they wont send a thank you card.
 
Esn
2013-07-20 06:02:55 AM  

letrole: pacified: its only class warfare when the poor fight back

class warfare is not real.

class warfare is imagined by those who either fail to achieve through lack of talent, or by those who have feelings of guilt for inherited and unearned wealth.


Like Warren Buffett, I guess.

"There's class warfare, all right, but it's my class, the rich class, that's making war, and we're winning "
Whereas YOU have no such guilt because you are sure that your wealth is entirely due to you being such a fantastic and deserving human being. Prick.

Oh, and also this:
i.imgur.com

i.imgur.com
 
m00
2013-07-20 06:33:41 AM  

ennuie: Reading comprehension fail. OP clearly stated a number of acceptable ways to become rich ("by writing an awesome app or making an awesome movie or buying a chain of laundromats "), however investment banking was explicitly not one of them.


Thank you :)

I believe in the free market. Which is... you make something great, or provide a great service, and people buy or use it... and you get wealthy. I'm not begrudging the Bill Gates or Steve Jobs or even the Sam Walton's of the world. I'm not criticizing professional athletes or movie stars or rock stars who entertain millions and become extremely wealthy.

But in my mind, there is a specific group of the 1% who really are parasites on the system. Chief among this class are investment bankers and those who make money in high finance, but generally speaking anyone whose primary business is to leverage the relationship between government and money in order to redistribute the wealth from the tax base at large to themselves. The two cities most notorious for creating this class of parasitic millionaire are New York and DC. What's particularly galling is that even in the midst of a crippling recession they still manage to vacuum up whatever public funds are supposed to go to recovery.

The problem is that criticizing this group has been equated with criticizing the concept of wealth. When in fact the least free-market policy government can implement is one where money is taken from the poor and middle-class and give it to the rich. Investment bankers aren't operating in a free market -- they are operating in a protected market for their own personal enrichment, where no matter what they do they are guaranteed the government will take the wealth out of your pocket and put it into theirs.

See, I believe the underlying principle of free market is risk v reward. Bill Gates took a risk. Steve Jobs building the Apple I in his garage which he funded by selling his personal items is taking a risk. Anyone who founds a startup takes a risk. The vast majority of new businesses fail in the first year. The vast majority of people who try and become a professional athlete, or musician, or actor don't make it. You can keep your stable boring job, or you can take a chance. But there is no risk in high finance. Regardless of whether their reckless gambles pay off or fail catastrophically they earn millions a year. And when they still manage to blow it, the government just bails them out and they go right back to paying themselves million dollar bonuses.

It's a rigged game. This is not capitalism. It's shameful.
 
2013-07-20 06:51:36 AM  
Doesn't matter how much money you spend on the little shiatbags they still stink of caked on ass nuggets and milk-breath, and they still grow up to become yet another pointless existence.
Best thing you can do with your sex trophies is not have any.
 
2013-07-20 06:59:46 AM  
$400/hour for a brain surgeon? Subby hasn't seen the present-day Medicare reimbursement rates.
 
2013-07-20 07:03:46 AM  
oh great.

somebody has posted a huge graphic that proves something about everybody else being at fault for your own failing to earn and save.

somebody else needs to post a huge graphic that illustrates a woman's right not to be ogled whilst wandering around the office even if she's wearing highheels and a leather miniskirt and damn that bottom button is the only thing keeping her titties in place.


slow version: class warfare equals sexual harassment
 
2013-07-20 07:47:38 AM  
$400 an hour and i'd take the brat to play with the anchor babies at the thrift store. That should round off the sharp corners of privilege.
 
2013-07-20 07:57:43 AM  

m00: I'm not against the rich, but I am against people gaining their wealth by dishonest or anti-capitalist means. Since this is New York, we're probably talking about investment bankers. If it were DC, it would be government contractors.

So I am saying if these parasites don't stop spending their vast wealth in asinine ways there's going to be some social accountability down the line when the proles get fed up enough to start voting in serious wealth re-distributors. Because these people didn't get rich by writing an awesome app or making an awesome movie or buying a chain of laundromats. They got rich by making risky bets with other people's money, failing, and getting bailed out with those same people's tax dollars (who already lost everything). If these "posh Manhattanites" are spending $400 for this nonsense, then clearly the only lesson they learned from the banking/mortgage crisis is that they are a government-protected privileged class.


i enjoy when people make assumptions and talk out their asses.
 
2013-07-20 08:20:08 AM  

letrole: pacified: its only class warfare when the poor fight back

class warfare is not real.

class warfare is imagined by those who either fail to achieve through lack of talent, or by those who have feelings of guilt for inherited and unearned wealth.

class warfare is the socioeconomic equivalent of sexual harrasment.


What an idiot!
 
2013-07-20 08:23:29 AM  

meyerkev: So the question I'd have to ask is: Does this stuff really work?  Like the whole Preschool -> private -> Ivy League -> actual rich job thing?  Because I'd really, really hate to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on private schooling (and stuff like TFA) to just have it go to waste.


I've seen the preschool->private school -> Ivy League -> good job through personal connections with kids whose parents are high up in big companies work several times.
 
2013-07-20 08:38:08 AM  

Target Builder: meyerkev: So the question I'd have to ask is: Does this stuff really work?  Like the whole Preschool -> private -> Ivy League -> actual rich job thing?  Because I'd really, really hate to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on private schooling (and stuff like TFA) to just have it go to waste.

I've seen the preschool->private school -> Ivy League -> good job through personal connections with kids whose parents are high up in big companies work several times.


I don't think the end game is a job...good or otherwise.  It's so that their children are kings of a financial kingdom.
 
2013-07-20 08:39:48 AM  
Gosh I hope they can write it off
 
2013-07-20 09:04:06 AM  
I am ambiguous about the love affair of capitalism. Making money by capitalism is not only about making a good product,that is also about making it efficiently. It is not about job creation. A factory needing 500 people in 1960's conditions may get by with 10 people and modern technology the present. This means less pay for labor and more profits. I don't think this paradigm fits with the romantic imagery of capitalism.
 
2013-07-20 09:04:43 AM  

Target Builder: I've seen the preschool->private school -> Ivy League -> good job through personal connections with kids whose parents are high up in big companies work several times.


Yes, it absolutely works. It's dynastic, too, virtually all the 'big law' lawyers my wife and I know are married either to other lawyers or to finance guys. Can be incredibly irritating for those of us who've spent time (relatively) poor to watch the less talented but more privileged take the top roles with greater ease.

/finance guy
//everybody hates me, I don't care
 
2013-07-20 09:08:21 AM  
I charge les than $400/hour, and I only rebill plantent office fees (there are a lot of them but they're usually pretty predictable). Everything else, from postage to rent on the office to my secretary's salary comes out of my hourly rate. Which 20-30% of the time the client stiffs me on.

/that's why I usually don't usually lift a pencil without a down payment.
 
2013-07-20 09:13:56 AM  

letrole: m00: I'm not against the rich, but [class warfare rant redeacted]


Remember, boys and girls:

i707.photobucket.com

Class warfare.

i120.photobucket.com

Not class warfare.
 
2013-07-20 09:16:19 AM  
Nuclear Monk:

I don't think the end game is a job...good or otherwise.  It's so that their children are kings of a financial kingdom.

That depends on the value you assign to "good". I suppose for some people a "good job" is shift manager at the local meat packing factory. For the kids on the rich-person-track it's walking into a fast-track career path at a prestigious law firm or bank or a prime surgery residency at a prestigious hospital.
 
2013-07-20 09:17:28 AM  

Lee Jackson Beauregard: letrole: m00: I'm not against the rich, but [class warfare rant redeacted]

Remember, boys and girls:

[i707.photobucket.com image 320x296]

Class warfare.

[i120.photobucket.com image 432x326]

Not class warfare.


Wow, plenty of kinky goth boots in that second photo, are they at a Matrix convention?
 
2013-07-20 09:24:04 AM  

letrole: oh great.

somebody has posted a huge graphic that proves something about everybody else being at fault for your own failing to earn and save voters' buying into Publican trickle down propaganda.


Did people suddenly stop earning and saving in 1980?  No?  Gee, I wonder what happened in 1980....

somebody else needs to post a huge graphic that illustrates a woman's right not to be ogled whilst wandering around the office even if she's wearing highheels and a leather miniskirt and damn that bottom button is the only thing keeping her titties in place.

1) Where do you work, that the women dress like that?  Hooters?

2) If a woman is wearing "high heels and a leather miniskirt" at the office, the boss needs to talk to her about appropriate professional dress.

3) That said, appropriate professional dress never stopped assholes from being assholes, nor the boss from demanding favors in return for keeping one's job.
 
2013-07-20 09:25:20 AM  

HotWingAgenda: Um, lawyers may charge the client $400+ dollars per hour. Most of that money goes straight to court fees, private court reporters, copy guys, rent, paychecks for secretaries, local hookers . . .


legal research tools, professional privilege taxes, assistant/secretary/paralegal salaries plus insurance, office rent/mortgage, utilities, malpractice insurance, liability insurance, worker's comp insurance.

A 2-3 attorney office with no paralegal can run up to $15K/month in business expenses alone.  When your billable/flat-fee rate is the sole revenue stream, and since most small-medium sized firms do not have a full workload, it is very tough to meet those expenses unless you have corporate clients.
 
2013-07-20 09:25:31 AM  
garlicmonkey: I am ambiguous about the love affair of capitalism. Making money by capitalism is not only about making a good product,that is also about making it efficiently. It is not about job creation. A factory needing 500 people in 1960's conditions may get by with 10 people and modern technology the present. This means less pay for labor and more profits. I don't think this paradigm fits with the romantic imagery of capitalism.


You need to a quick google of "Industrial Revolution".

What do they teach in school now, anyway?
 
2013-07-20 09:36:44 AM  
Lee Jackson Beauregard: Did people suddenly stop earning and saving in 1980? No? Gee, I wonder what happened in 1980....

1980 was the last year of Jimmy Carter's national malaise. You'd know that if you'd actually been born then..

Jimmy Carter.
1970s
Misery Index.

What a farking retarded stab at revisionism you've swallowed.
 
2013-07-20 09:41:04 AM  
Why is everyone whining here?

1) Getting people to spend $400/hr. on a glorified nanny is separating fools from their money.
2) Rich parents who do this are going to raise children that hate them.

If you're going to look at this as a "class warfare" issue, this article is a victory for the little guys.  What's your problem with that?
 
2013-07-20 09:44:42 AM  
letrole


I live with my mom
 
2013-07-20 09:49:54 AM  
Or you could take the little snowflakes to a public park and let them interact with the hugely diverse population of NYC and get introduced to the kids who will eventually be competing for their jobs.

Hell, the kids at one of the larger parks in my city in exotic, cosmopolitan South Dakota are like a mini united nations.
 
2013-07-20 09:56:20 AM  

letrole: Lee Jackson Beauregard: Did people suddenly stop earning and saving in 1980? No? Gee, I wonder what happened in 1980....

1980 was the last year of Jimmy Carter's national malaise. You'd know that if you'd actually been born then..

Jimmy Carter.
1970s
Misery Index.

What a farking retarded stab at revisionism you've swallowed.


1) Yeah, it's always the working man's fault.  So what's been the excuse since then?  Wall Street is booming, but the rest of us are expected to bust our asses at jobs that aren't there or pay minimum wage.

2) If hard work made you rich, everyone who toils behind a McDonald's counter would be a millionaire.  The hardest working job I ever had was in fast food.  It was also the one that paid the least.

3) Paris Hilton isn't going to sleep with you, no matter how much you white-knight the 1 percent.
 
2013-07-20 10:11:10 AM  

letrole: letrole: class warfare is the socioeconomic equivalent of sexual harrasment.

pacified: that's why all the people who caused the 2008 economic crash are in jail, right?


sexual harrasment occurs when the wrong man flirts and stares at your titties

makes eye contact in the office.
 
2013-07-20 10:18:08 AM  

El Dudereno: Or you could take the little snowflakes to a public park and let them interact with the hugely diverse population of NYC and get introduced to the kids who will eventually be competing for their jobs.

Hell, the kids at one of the larger parks in my city in exotic, cosmopolitan South Dakota are like a mini united nations.


=========

You're tolling, or incredibly naive.  Which is it?
 
2013-07-20 10:38:51 AM  

Oldiron_79: Dont forget high end prostitute


400 bucks per hour.... that's nothing.

Considering that even a basic hooker makes 50 bucks and it only takes the guy 1 minute to finish.... ** crunches math ** ... that's 3000 bucks an hour.

That's sound you hear is the high end prostitutes laughing at the mere 400 bucks per hour paid to lawyers, brain surgeons, etc.
 
2013-07-20 10:41:48 AM  
Lee Jackson Beauregard:

1) Yeah, it's always the working man's fault. So what's been the excuse since then? Wall Street is booming, but the rest of us are expected to bust our asses at jobs that aren't there or pay minimum wage.

It's always the individual's credit or fault. You need to break out of this collectivist mindset. It's you, the individual who fails or succeeds.

2) If hard work made you rich, everyone who toils behind a McDonald's counter would be a millionaire. The hardest working job I ever had was in fast food. It was also the one that paid the least.

So get away from money for a minute. If you practice 14 hours per day on the piano, you may just end up a successful concert pianist. If you practice 14 hours per day on the kazoo, you're just a moron. Hard work isn't enough, you must also have enough sense to know what's worthwhile.

3) Paris Hilton isn't going to sleep with you, no matter how much you white-knight the 1 percent.

Paris Hilton is indeed out of my reach, so I have to settle for ladies like your mum.
/pianist
 
2013-07-20 10:50:27 AM  
Geez, I guess I shouldn't feel guilty about billing $120/hr. for IT consulting services. Which generally involves asking someone if they've tried rebooting.

I have a few clients who compare me to their lawyers when they get the bill, though...
 
2013-07-20 11:22:10 AM  
The Original Play Date Consultant

static.rogerebert.com

Costs more than $400 an hour

/I've heard
 
2013-07-20 12:11:07 PM  

hundreddollarman: Oldiron_79: Dont forget high end prostitute

They prefer the term "courtesan."


Oh, oh, 'courtesan', oh aren't we grand. Harlot's not good enough for us eh? Paramour, concubine, fille de joie. That's what we are not. Well listen to me my fine fellow, you are a bit of tail, that's what you are.
 
2013-07-20 12:20:40 PM  
gblive: Oldiron_79: Dont forget high end prostitute

400 bucks per hour.... that's nothing.

Considering that even a basic hooker makes 50 bucks and it only takes the guy 1 minute to finish.... ** crunches math ** ... that's 3000 bucks an hour.

That's sound you hear is the high end prostitutes laughing at the mere 400 bucks per hour paid to lawyers, brain surgeons, etc.


Well that might be true if they had 60 clients an hour.
 
2013-07-20 12:25:51 PM  

Mock26: They could save $400/hour by actually interacting with their kids!


They are paying $400 because they don't want to.
 
2013-07-20 12:30:34 PM  

Esn: Oh, and also this:


Wow, it's almost as if some sort of device was invented around the 1970s that began replacing manual labor as a driver of productivity.
 
Esn
2013-07-20 01:16:43 PM  

BMFPitt: Esn: Oh, and also this:

Wow, it's almost as if some sort of device was invented around the 1970s that began replacing manual labor as a driver of productivity.


Interesting idea, but computers are by far not the first productivity improving technology. Didn't offshoring also begin to appear around the same time? Incidentally, the US Labor Department doesn't differentiate between productivity obtained through offshoring and through better practices by American workers. Perhaps that's the reason for the big divergence.
As for letrole, it's always been true that if you work hard enough, you're more likely to do better. That's true whether there's a class war or not; it has nothing to do with it.
 
2013-07-20 01:18:19 PM  
All I can think of this is that scene from the Nanny Dairies where the rich parents flip their shiat when their little kid doesn't get accepted in some superfancy kindergarten. A farking kindergarten. KINDERGARTEN. I thought it was an exaggeration of how some rich people are with their kids but they are real things. And now this is!
 
2013-07-20 01:37:55 PM  
The proper term for this, and many other similar (but sometimes high paying) jobs; is actually, 'scam artist'.

The fact that they make $400 an hour doing it makes them *good* scam artists.  So, good for them.
 
2013-07-20 01:44:35 PM  
Scam the fark out of those retarded helicopter parents.
 
2013-07-20 01:48:08 PM  

Ego edo infantia cattus: Scam the fark out of those retarded helicopter parents.


That was supposed to have the grumpy cat good meme above it, but I accidentally trusted Fark to post a farking picture.

/un-fetchable meme? WTF?
 
2013-07-20 01:57:24 PM  

Robo Beat: I charge les than $400/hour, and I only rebill plantent office fees (there are a lot of them but they're usually pretty predictable). Everything else, from postage to rent on the office to my secretary's salary comes out of my hourly rate. Which 20-30% of the time the client stiffs me on.

/that's why I usually don't usually lift a pencil without a down payment.


This, basically. Staff is a fixed expense. A lot of lawyers under 40 are also paying off crushing student debts, too. And the lawyers I know with 400/hr rates are typically partners at very large and specialized firms that are absolutely worth their fee for their arcane regulatory knowledge.
 
2013-07-20 03:32:26 PM  
You want to teach your kids how to interact with other kids? Here's my professional guide:

1.) Take your child to area where other kids are playing
2.) Drop them off
3.) Find the nearest bar, turn off your phone and sit in it for a couple of hours building your own social skills while your child builds their own.

Everyone in this thread now owes me $400. I do accept payment in the form of alcohol. You're welcome.
 
2013-07-20 03:48:16 PM  

letrole: pacified: its only class warfare when the poor fight back

class warfare is not real.

class warfare is imagined by those who either fail to achieve through lack of talent, or by those who have feelings of guilt for inherited and unearned wealth.

class warfare is the socioeconomic equivalent of sexual harrasment.


There are so many times I've almost blocked you and then realized I forgot to look at the UN... I bow to your skills, sir.
 
2013-07-20 04:18:04 PM  
Funny how it's only called class warfare when you fight back.
 
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