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(Gothamist)   Professions that pay $400/hour: 1) Lawyer 2) Brain Surgeon 3) Play-Date Consultant for rich snowflakes who suck at playing   (gothamist.com) divider line 83
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2013-07-20 09:04:06 AM  
I am ambiguous about the love affair of capitalism. Making money by capitalism is not only about making a good product,that is also about making it efficiently. It is not about job creation. A factory needing 500 people in 1960's conditions may get by with 10 people and modern technology the present. This means less pay for labor and more profits. I don't think this paradigm fits with the romantic imagery of capitalism.
 
2013-07-20 09:04:43 AM  

Target Builder: I've seen the preschool->private school -> Ivy League -> good job through personal connections with kids whose parents are high up in big companies work several times.


Yes, it absolutely works. It's dynastic, too, virtually all the 'big law' lawyers my wife and I know are married either to other lawyers or to finance guys. Can be incredibly irritating for those of us who've spent time (relatively) poor to watch the less talented but more privileged take the top roles with greater ease.

/finance guy
//everybody hates me, I don't care
 
2013-07-20 09:08:21 AM  
I charge les than $400/hour, and I only rebill plantent office fees (there are a lot of them but they're usually pretty predictable). Everything else, from postage to rent on the office to my secretary's salary comes out of my hourly rate. Which 20-30% of the time the client stiffs me on.

/that's why I usually don't usually lift a pencil without a down payment.
 
2013-07-20 09:13:56 AM  

letrole: m00: I'm not against the rich, but [class warfare rant redeacted]


Remember, boys and girls:

i707.photobucket.com

Class warfare.

i120.photobucket.com

Not class warfare.
 
2013-07-20 09:16:19 AM  
Nuclear Monk:

I don't think the end game is a job...good or otherwise.  It's so that their children are kings of a financial kingdom.

That depends on the value you assign to "good". I suppose for some people a "good job" is shift manager at the local meat packing factory. For the kids on the rich-person-track it's walking into a fast-track career path at a prestigious law firm or bank or a prime surgery residency at a prestigious hospital.
 
2013-07-20 09:17:28 AM  

Lee Jackson Beauregard: letrole: m00: I'm not against the rich, but [class warfare rant redeacted]

Remember, boys and girls:

[i707.photobucket.com image 320x296]

Class warfare.

[i120.photobucket.com image 432x326]

Not class warfare.


Wow, plenty of kinky goth boots in that second photo, are they at a Matrix convention?
 
2013-07-20 09:24:04 AM  

letrole: oh great.

somebody has posted a huge graphic that proves something about everybody else being at fault for your own failing to earn and save voters' buying into Publican trickle down propaganda.


Did people suddenly stop earning and saving in 1980?  No?  Gee, I wonder what happened in 1980....

somebody else needs to post a huge graphic that illustrates a woman's right not to be ogled whilst wandering around the office even if she's wearing highheels and a leather miniskirt and damn that bottom button is the only thing keeping her titties in place.

1) Where do you work, that the women dress like that?  Hooters?

2) If a woman is wearing "high heels and a leather miniskirt" at the office, the boss needs to talk to her about appropriate professional dress.

3) That said, appropriate professional dress never stopped assholes from being assholes, nor the boss from demanding favors in return for keeping one's job.
 
2013-07-20 09:25:20 AM  

HotWingAgenda: Um, lawyers may charge the client $400+ dollars per hour. Most of that money goes straight to court fees, private court reporters, copy guys, rent, paychecks for secretaries, local hookers . . .


legal research tools, professional privilege taxes, assistant/secretary/paralegal salaries plus insurance, office rent/mortgage, utilities, malpractice insurance, liability insurance, worker's comp insurance.

A 2-3 attorney office with no paralegal can run up to $15K/month in business expenses alone.  When your billable/flat-fee rate is the sole revenue stream, and since most small-medium sized firms do not have a full workload, it is very tough to meet those expenses unless you have corporate clients.
 
2013-07-20 09:25:31 AM  
garlicmonkey: I am ambiguous about the love affair of capitalism. Making money by capitalism is not only about making a good product,that is also about making it efficiently. It is not about job creation. A factory needing 500 people in 1960's conditions may get by with 10 people and modern technology the present. This means less pay for labor and more profits. I don't think this paradigm fits with the romantic imagery of capitalism.


You need to a quick google of "Industrial Revolution".

What do they teach in school now, anyway?
 
2013-07-20 09:36:44 AM  
Lee Jackson Beauregard: Did people suddenly stop earning and saving in 1980? No? Gee, I wonder what happened in 1980....

1980 was the last year of Jimmy Carter's national malaise. You'd know that if you'd actually been born then..

Jimmy Carter.
1970s
Misery Index.

What a farking retarded stab at revisionism you've swallowed.
 
2013-07-20 09:41:04 AM  
Why is everyone whining here?

1) Getting people to spend $400/hr. on a glorified nanny is separating fools from their money.
2) Rich parents who do this are going to raise children that hate them.

If you're going to look at this as a "class warfare" issue, this article is a victory for the little guys.  What's your problem with that?
 
2013-07-20 09:44:42 AM  
letrole


0/10
 
2013-07-20 09:49:54 AM  
Or you could take the little snowflakes to a public park and let them interact with the hugely diverse population of NYC and get introduced to the kids who will eventually be competing for their jobs.

Hell, the kids at one of the larger parks in my city in exotic, cosmopolitan South Dakota are like a mini united nations.
 
2013-07-20 09:56:20 AM  

letrole: Lee Jackson Beauregard: Did people suddenly stop earning and saving in 1980? No? Gee, I wonder what happened in 1980....

1980 was the last year of Jimmy Carter's national malaise. You'd know that if you'd actually been born then..

Jimmy Carter.
1970s
Misery Index.

What a farking retarded stab at revisionism you've swallowed.


1) Yeah, it's always the working man's fault.  So what's been the excuse since then?  Wall Street is booming, but the rest of us are expected to bust our asses at jobs that aren't there or pay minimum wage.

2) If hard work made you rich, everyone who toils behind a McDonald's counter would be a millionaire.  The hardest working job I ever had was in fast food.  It was also the one that paid the least.

3) Paris Hilton isn't going to sleep with you, no matter how much you white-knight the 1 percent.
 
2013-07-20 10:11:10 AM  

letrole: letrole: class warfare is the socioeconomic equivalent of sexual harrasment.

pacified: that's why all the people who caused the 2008 economic crash are in jail, right?


sexual harrasment occurs when the wrong man flirts and stares at your titties

makes eye contact in the office.
 
2013-07-20 10:18:08 AM  

El Dudereno: Or you could take the little snowflakes to a public park and let them interact with the hugely diverse population of NYC and get introduced to the kids who will eventually be competing for their jobs.

Hell, the kids at one of the larger parks in my city in exotic, cosmopolitan South Dakota are like a mini united nations.


=========

You're tolling, or incredibly naive.  Which is it?
 
2013-07-20 10:38:51 AM  

Oldiron_79: Dont forget high end prostitute


400 bucks per hour.... that's nothing.

Considering that even a basic hooker makes 50 bucks and it only takes the guy 1 minute to finish.... ** crunches math ** ... that's 3000 bucks an hour.

That's sound you hear is the high end prostitutes laughing at the mere 400 bucks per hour paid to lawyers, brain surgeons, etc.
 
2013-07-20 10:41:48 AM  
Lee Jackson Beauregard:

1) Yeah, it's always the working man's fault. So what's been the excuse since then? Wall Street is booming, but the rest of us are expected to bust our asses at jobs that aren't there or pay minimum wage.

It's always the individual's credit or fault. You need to break out of this collectivist mindset. It's you, the individual who fails or succeeds.

2) If hard work made you rich, everyone who toils behind a McDonald's counter would be a millionaire. The hardest working job I ever had was in fast food. It was also the one that paid the least.

So get away from money for a minute. If you practice 14 hours per day on the piano, you may just end up a successful concert pianist. If you practice 14 hours per day on the kazoo, you're just a moron. Hard work isn't enough, you must also have enough sense to know what's worthwhile.

3) Paris Hilton isn't going to sleep with you, no matter how much you white-knight the 1 percent.

Paris Hilton is indeed out of my reach, so I have to settle for ladies like your mum.
/pianist
 
2013-07-20 10:50:27 AM  
Geez, I guess I shouldn't feel guilty about billing $120/hr. for IT consulting services. Which generally involves asking someone if they've tried rebooting.

I have a few clients who compare me to their lawyers when they get the bill, though...
 
2013-07-20 11:22:10 AM  
The Original Play Date Consultant

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Costs more than $400 an hour

/I've heard
 
2013-07-20 12:11:07 PM  

hundreddollarman: Oldiron_79: Dont forget high end prostitute

They prefer the term "courtesan."


Oh, oh, 'courtesan', oh aren't we grand. Harlot's not good enough for us eh? Paramour, concubine, fille de joie. That's what we are not. Well listen to me my fine fellow, you are a bit of tail, that's what you are.
 
2013-07-20 12:20:40 PM  
gblive: Oldiron_79: Dont forget high end prostitute

400 bucks per hour.... that's nothing.

Considering that even a basic hooker makes 50 bucks and it only takes the guy 1 minute to finish.... ** crunches math ** ... that's 3000 bucks an hour.

That's sound you hear is the high end prostitutes laughing at the mere 400 bucks per hour paid to lawyers, brain surgeons, etc.


Well that might be true if they had 60 clients an hour.
 
2013-07-20 12:25:51 PM  

Mock26: They could save $400/hour by actually interacting with their kids!


They are paying $400 because they don't want to.
 
2013-07-20 12:30:34 PM  

Esn: Oh, and also this:


Wow, it's almost as if some sort of device was invented around the 1970s that began replacing manual labor as a driver of productivity.
 
Esn
2013-07-20 01:16:43 PM  

BMFPitt: Esn: Oh, and also this:

Wow, it's almost as if some sort of device was invented around the 1970s that began replacing manual labor as a driver of productivity.


Interesting idea, but computers are by far not the first productivity improving technology. Didn't offshoring also begin to appear around the same time? Incidentally, the US Labor Department doesn't differentiate between productivity obtained through offshoring and through better practices by American workers. Perhaps that's the reason for the big divergence.
As for letrole, it's always been true that if you work hard enough, you're more likely to do better. That's true whether there's a class war or not; it has nothing to do with it.
 
2013-07-20 01:18:19 PM  
All I can think of this is that scene from the Nanny Dairies where the rich parents flip their shiat when their little kid doesn't get accepted in some superfancy kindergarten. A farking kindergarten. KINDERGARTEN. I thought it was an exaggeration of how some rich people are with their kids but they are real things. And now this is!
 
2013-07-20 01:37:55 PM  
The proper term for this, and many other similar (but sometimes high paying) jobs; is actually, 'scam artist'.

The fact that they make $400 an hour doing it makes them *good* scam artists.  So, good for them.
 
2013-07-20 01:44:35 PM  
Scam the fark out of those retarded helicopter parents.
 
2013-07-20 01:48:08 PM  

Ego edo infantia cattus: Scam the fark out of those retarded helicopter parents.


That was supposed to have the grumpy cat good meme above it, but I accidentally trusted Fark to post a farking picture.

/un-fetchable meme? WTF?
 
2013-07-20 01:57:24 PM  

Robo Beat: I charge les than $400/hour, and I only rebill plantent office fees (there are a lot of them but they're usually pretty predictable). Everything else, from postage to rent on the office to my secretary's salary comes out of my hourly rate. Which 20-30% of the time the client stiffs me on.

/that's why I usually don't usually lift a pencil without a down payment.


This, basically. Staff is a fixed expense. A lot of lawyers under 40 are also paying off crushing student debts, too. And the lawyers I know with 400/hr rates are typically partners at very large and specialized firms that are absolutely worth their fee for their arcane regulatory knowledge.
 
2013-07-20 03:32:26 PM  
You want to teach your kids how to interact with other kids? Here's my professional guide:

1.) Take your child to area where other kids are playing
2.) Drop them off
3.) Find the nearest bar, turn off your phone and sit in it for a couple of hours building your own social skills while your child builds their own.

Everyone in this thread now owes me $400. I do accept payment in the form of alcohol. You're welcome.
 
2013-07-20 03:48:16 PM  

letrole: pacified: its only class warfare when the poor fight back

class warfare is not real.

class warfare is imagined by those who either fail to achieve through lack of talent, or by those who have feelings of guilt for inherited and unearned wealth.

class warfare is the socioeconomic equivalent of sexual harrasment.


There are so many times I've almost blocked you and then realized I forgot to look at the UN... I bow to your skills, sir.
 
2013-07-20 04:18:04 PM  
Funny how it's only called class warfare when you fight back.
 
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