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(Slate)   College hookups are a myth, unless you are "white and wealthy," claims columnist who was too ugly to be anyone's regret   (slate.com) divider line 189
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2013-07-19 11:42:22 PM

megarian: That made sense.

I am afraid. Help.


Shh Shhhhh, I will help.  Grab your graphing calculator.  Okay now enter 55378008.  Done? now flip it upside down:)

/hope your night is going well in brokesville MI
 
2013-07-19 11:42:33 PM

supayoda: Abuse Liability: I always thought it was competition that kept you from getting any.  Me and my friends were all white and not wealthy.  My roommates hooked up all the time, but I never could seem to close the deal often (not going to say never... but not often).

/only relatively ugly
//don't check profile
.
You're adorable, and so is your family.


I keep getting adorable from girls. Unfortunately, that is far from sexy, which often had me going home alone with my 'model' roommates drunkenly stumbling in at two a.m. and me having to quickly remove panties from my head after they were hastily discarded the minute their conquest came through the door. I think that's why I'm so screwed up sexually and throw WIE out there like nobody's business.
 
2013-07-19 11:43:42 PM

Honest Bender: Only about 40 percent of those hookups include sexual intercourse

I think the author might be confused as to what exactly a "hookup" is. Here's a hint: It involves sex.


It involves sexual behavior.  It might not go all the way.
 
2013-07-19 11:45:31 PM

thecpt: megarian: That made sense.

I am afraid. Help.

Shh Shhhhh, I will help.  Grab your graphing calculator.  Okay now enter 55378008.  Done? now flip it upside down:)

/hope your night is going well in brokesville MI


Boobless? That hardly seems nice.
 
2013-07-19 11:47:37 PM

thecpt: megarian: That made sense.

I am afraid. Help.

Shh Shhhhh, I will help.  Grab your graphing calculator.  Okay now enter 55378008.  Done? now flip it upside down:)

/hope your night is going well in brokesville MI


Omg BOOBLESS!!! Finally calculus paid off!


Happy thunder-storming :)
 
2013-07-19 11:48:23 PM

Abuse Liability: Boobless? That hardly seems nice.


...not intended as an insult at her.  She cool.
 
2013-07-19 11:51:35 PM

DubtodaIll: miss diminutive: Abuse Liability: Yeah, not so sure its tact... more like, you don't brag about being able to convert oxygen into ATP using an electron transport chain(hint:because it's as easy as breathing), whereas for guys, its a challenge. To verify this, have a man and woman walk into a bar and request sex from the patrons and see who gets more bites.

That just sounds funny.

"Pardon me miss, might I trouble you for some sex?

Don't be so crass, he's got a valid and unavoidable point. The qualifications are far for stringent for a man to be a man whore than it is for a woman to be a slut.


Of course they are. I did quite well in university and I'm not under the deluded impression that it was because of my brains, sense of humour or wheeling ability. As supayoda said, it was more about making sure you picked a guy who wasn't going to either throw up on you, pass out in bed or keep your skin as a trophy.
 
2013-07-19 11:53:22 PM

thecpt: Abuse Liability: Boobless? That hardly seems nice.

...not intended as an insult at her.  She cool.


The only time "boobless" sounds weird is when an ex is running at you with a serrated edge.

Or if you went to see the blue-footed boobies at the zoo and they are mysteriously gone.
 
2013-07-19 11:56:49 PM

megarian: thecpt: Abuse Liability: Boobless? That hardly seems nice.

...not intended as an insult at her.  She cool.

The only time "boobless" sounds weird is when an ex is running at you with a serrated edge.

Or if you went to see the blue-footed boobies at the zoo and they are mysteriously gone.


I'd worry if it was on the sign above the door to a strip club.
 
2013-07-19 11:57:00 PM

miss diminutive: DubtodaIll: miss diminutive: Abuse Liability: Yeah, not so sure its tact... more like, you don't brag about being able to convert oxygen into ATP using an electron transport chain(hint:because it's as easy as breathing), whereas for guys, its a challenge. To verify this, have a man and woman walk into a bar and request sex from the patrons and see who gets more bites.

That just sounds funny.

"Pardon me miss, might I trouble you for some sex?

Don't be so crass, he's got a valid and unavoidable point. The qualifications are far for stringent for a man to be a man whore than it is for a woman to be a slut.

Of course they are. I did quite well in university and I'm not under the deluded impression that it was because of my brains, sense of humour or wheeling ability. As supayoda said, it was more about making sure you picked a guy who wasn't going to either throw up on you, pass out in bed or keep your skin as a trophy.


I wasn't really trying to initiate a real discussion anyway. We all know the score. And they have a point. Just because you can go home with twenty, doesn't mean you should. Just being snarky, flirty, and trying to send farkers pictures of my junk because of my deep seated insecurities.
 
2013-07-19 11:58:26 PM

miss diminutive: it was more about making sure you picked a guy who wasn't going to either throw up on you, pass out in bed or keep your skin as a trophy.


How exactly did you single out the most likely to flay?
 
2013-07-19 11:59:54 PM
FTA: "If students agree with the rest of the panicked culture and the recent New York Times story that they are embedded in an alcohol-fueled, porn-soaked, party scene that welcome casual sex, how is it possible that their actual sexual activity can be described with numbers like two and seven?"

Obviously, two and seven are, respectively, the lowest and highest single-digit prime numbers. The sexual eigenvalues, as it were. Duh.
 
2013-07-20 12:01:42 AM

miss diminutive: DubtodaIll: miss diminutive: Abuse Liability: Yeah, not so sure its tact... more like, you don't brag about being able to convert oxygen into ATP using an electron transport chain(hint:because it's as easy as breathing), whereas for guys, its a challenge. To verify this, have a man and woman walk into a bar and request sex from the patrons and see who gets more bites.

That just sounds funny.

"Pardon me miss, might I trouble you for some sex?

Don't be so crass, he's got a valid and unavoidable point. The qualifications are far for stringent for a man to be a man whore than it is for a woman to be a slut.

Of course they are. I did quite well in university and I'm not under the deluded impression that it was because of my brains, sense of humour or wheeling ability. As supayoda said, it was more about making sure you picked a guy who wasn't going to either throw up on you, pass out in bed or keep your skin as a trophy.


I'll hear no ill talk of my trophy system.
 
2013-07-20 12:04:08 AM

ph0rk: miss diminutive: it was more about making sure you picked a guy who wasn't going to either throw up on you, pass out in bed or keep your skin as a trophy.

How exactly did you single out the most likely to flay?


Profiling most likely. Who looks most like they would hang with buffalo bill and/or get a callback as an extra in deliverance.
 
2013-07-20 12:04:26 AM

DubtodaIll: miss diminutive: Abuse Liability: Yeah, not so sure its tact... more like, you don't brag about being able to convert oxygen into ATP using an electron transport chain(hint:because it's as easy as breathing), whereas for guys, its a challenge. To verify this, have a man and woman walk into a bar and request sex from the patrons and see who gets more bites.

That just sounds funny.

"Pardon me miss, might I trouble you for some sex?

Don't be so crass, he's got a valid and unavoidable point. The qualifications are far for stringent for a man to be a man whore than it is for a woman to be a slut.


It doesn't matter, it simply comes down to simple probability and sample size.....  The guy in the dorm room next to me would regularly go to bars or parties, pick out the 10 hottest girls, introduce himself and within the first 2 minutes ask them back to his room.   His rejection rate....90%.   However, within half an hour he was leaving with someone 90%+ of the time.  It wasn't uncommon to see him back at the bars later picking up seconds.   Dude clearly had at least 50 hookups that year....and that was with a full time girlfriend that just went home on weekends.  He was blond hair, average build and looks, but dirt poor.   So much for the wealthy angle.
 
2013-07-20 12:04:28 AM
Is this the newest article on the horrors of "white privilege", or was the author bored and smoking bath salts?
 
2013-07-20 12:05:38 AM

DubtodaIll: I'll hear no ill talk of my trophy system.


ACHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED: It puts the lotion on its skin
 
2013-07-20 12:06:42 AM

thecpt: DubtodaIll: I'll hear no ill talk of my trophy system.

ACHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED: It puts the lotion on its skin


That should impress the next winner.
 
2013-07-20 12:10:41 AM
I was a single mother in college... I lived in the "non-traditional" student housing so basically, I had an apartment but on-campus.  I farked a never-ending stream of men, despite being broke.
 
2013-07-20 12:11:43 AM

ph0rk: miss diminutive: it was more about making sure you picked a guy who wasn't going to either throw up on you, pass out in bed or keep your skin as a trophy.

How exactly did you single out the most likely to flay?


They were the ones who asked a lot of questions about lotion.

Abuse Liability: I wasn't really trying to initiate a real discussion anyway. We all know the score. And they have a point. Just because you can go home with twenty, doesn't mean you should. Just being snarky, flirty, and trying to send farkers pictures of my junk because of my deep seated insecurities.


Twenty? The spirit may be willing but the flesh would become chaffed and bruised.

And any deep seated insecurities you may have certainly didn't prevent you from getting a hot partner, beautiful kids and a decent tie. When I think of deep seated issues I think of people who can't reach climax unless their partner whips them with cabbage and calls them Pinky.
 
2013-07-20 12:14:51 AM

miss diminutive: When I think of deep seated issues I think of people who can't reach climax unless their partner whips them with cabbage and calls them Pinky.


You say that likes it's a bad thing.  NARF.
 
2013-07-20 12:17:42 AM

miss diminutive: ph0rk: miss diminutive: it was more about making sure you picked a guy who wasn't going to either throw up on you, pass out in bed or keep your skin as a trophy.

How exactly did you single out the most likely to flay?

They were the ones who asked a lot of questions about lotion.

Abuse Liability: I wasn't really trying to initiate a real discussion anyway. We all know the score. And they have a point. Just because you can go home with twenty, doesn't mean you should. Just being snarky, flirty, and trying to send farkers pictures of my junk because of my deep seated insecurities.

Twenty? The spirit may be willing but the flesh would become chaffed and bruised.

And any deep seated insecurities you may have certainly didn't prevent you from getting a hot partner, beautiful kids and a decent tie. When I think of deep seated issues I think of people who can't reach climax unless their partner whips them with cabbage and calls them Pinky.


True enough. I think my first college girlfriend helped me express my insecurities through exhibitionism. She was a freak and... broke me out of my shell. We once crashed a party that we screwed in front of. When we showed up they were like, "did you guys see that couple farking on the apartment balcony across the way?" Apparently it being dark and about 200 feet away gives you some anonymity. She was baaaad for me. I do agree that it all led me to a great place. Hot wife, great kids.
 
2013-07-20 12:22:42 AM
Ha ha! We rich white people now dominate yet another field! Victory will be ours yet!
 
2013-07-20 12:27:06 AM

mxyzplk: Ha ha! We rich white people now dominate yet another field! Victory will be ours yet!


Pretty sure we already got victory and are totally tired of it. Step up everyone else, I can't tell you how much joy it would bring me for the next step forward in humanity to be spearheaded by a non-white.
Meanwhile, ladies, you can line up to the left, no restrictions.
 
2013-07-20 12:35:13 AM
So tired. Going to bed. Boobs, you know where to leave 'em.

/eip
 
2013-07-20 12:36:28 AM
1. That word salad was written by a Ph.D?

2. As a male at Sarah Lawrence College when it had a 5:1 female:male ratio, my experiences were probably above average.
 
2013-07-20 12:37:10 AM

Abuse Liability: ph0rk: Abuse Liability: spidermilk: blugenes: spidermilk: I banged more girls in college than you guys. And they were hotter. And I knew them less than you knew yours. And it was way easier and I was trying way less hard than you guys. The author is a fool, I'd never hookup with that kind of chick.

If you had a dozen 2s or 3s that is your decision, but quantity does not always equate to quality.  Random sex has its allure, but I think when you know the partner and what they like it makes things *so* much more interesting.  So keep your numbers, I'll cherish my own experiences without regrets.

Hey, I agree with you fully, I am just mocking the studmans in this thread because this is the internet where bragging doesn't count. Females never brag this way because we have tact. And really, cherishing your own experiences without regrets is the most important thing.

Self deprecation is still OK though right? Or is that also sad, but from the other end of the spectrum.?

Anyone less humble than me is a braggart.

Anyone more humble than me is employing false humility.

I have a huge package, but never get laid... analyze that!


You work for a delivery company?
 
2013-07-20 12:38:12 AM

blugenes: Abuse Liability: ph0rk: Abuse Liability: spidermilk: blugenes: spidermilk: I banged more girls in college than you guys. And they were hotter. And I knew them less than you knew yours. And it was way easier and I was trying way less hard than you guys. The author is a fool, I'd never hookup with that kind of chick.

If you had a dozen 2s or 3s that is your decision, but quantity does not always equate to quality.  Random sex has its allure, but I think when you know the partner and what they like it makes things *so* much more interesting.  So keep your numbers, I'll cherish my own experiences without regrets.

Hey, I agree with you fully, I am just mocking the studmans in this thread because this is the internet where bragging doesn't count. Females never brag this way because we have tact. And really, cherishing your own experiences without regrets is the most important thing.

Self deprecation is still OK though right? Or is that also sad, but from the other end of the spectrum.?

Anyone less humble than me is a braggart.

Anyone more humble than me is employing false humility.

I have a huge package, but never get laid... analyze that!

You work for a delivery company?


Would also have accepted: you're married? You win an interwebz.
 
2013-07-20 12:42:28 AM

spidermilk: blugenes: spidermilk: I banged more girls in college than you guys. And they were hotter. And I knew them less than you knew yours. And it was way easier and I was trying way less hard than you guys. The author is a fool, I'd never hookup with that kind of chick.

If you had a dozen 2s or 3s that is your decision, but quantity does not always equate to quality.  Random sex has its allure, but I think when you know the partner and what they like it makes things *so* much more interesting.  So keep your numbers, I'll cherish my own experiences without regrets.

Hey, I agree with you fully, I am just mocking the studmans in this thread because this is the internet where bragging doesn't count. Females never brag this way because we have tact. And really, cherishing your own experiences without regrets is the most important thing.


Sorry I just got back from a long hiatus, pithy comebacks (or at least well-hearted bad ones) to seeming trolls could be a good way to re-introduce to the community.  And believe it or not some females are more chatty about this than they let on, especially when they forget there is a guy in the room.
 
2013-07-20 01:15:25 AM
FTA: "these students are more likely than others to be white, wealthy, heterosexual, able-bodied, and conventionally attractive"

FTA: "hookup scenes often revolve around fraternity houses"

So he was right all along.... fraternity men do get more top shelf pussy!
 
2013-07-20 01:17:02 AM
When I was in college, I was the kid in scruffy clothes from the wrong side of the tracks. I made out like a bandit. Not with the students, though. With the teachers.
 
2013-07-20 01:29:02 AM
Important traits in college:

1. Attractive
2. Confident
3. Access to a car
4. Access to booze
5. Access to drugs
.
.
.
.
99. White
100. Rich

Seriously, race and wealth don't factor into a girl's mind when she's 20, unless she has SEVERE daddy issues and/or was dirt poor her whole life.  A hot guy or just a guy other girls want is just fine, all the other crap doesn't matter.  Far fewer girls go to college to get their Mrs. degree anymore, most just want to get laid.
 
2013-07-20 01:33:08 AM

megarian: Whatever the fark I did in college, apparently I did it wrong.

Does anyone have a graph? I'm confused.


I do but it just reads insert tab an into slot b. But call a woman a slot, and boy is there trouble. Must be a bad translation.
 
2013-07-20 01:33:22 AM
Back in the late 70's - early 80's you were a loser if you didn't get strange every single night in college. Of course AIDS put a damper on things.
 
2013-07-20 01:40:06 AM

GeneralJim: I would hit her without regrets, then take her to dinner and a movie, and hit again. Methinks subby is confused


I would take her out for a nice sea food dinner and then never call her again.
 
2013-07-20 01:43:38 AM
Everybody lies about sex   -Lazarus Long of the Howards
 
2013-07-20 01:54:19 AM
Does anyone in this thread have any advice on how to get laid in college?
 
2013-07-20 01:57:36 AM

GeneralJim: I would hit her without regrets, then take her to dinner and a movie, and hit again. Methinks subby is confused.


No.  You might  want to hit that, but only get a lecture on the evils of the white socioecopatriarchy.  Then sit through dinner listening to why you should feel guilty about your skin color.   Then after the movie during her lecture about why you should feel bad about not being poor, you touch her knee and get accused of rape.
 
2013-07-20 02:05:37 AM

spacelord321: Does anyone in this thread have any advice on how to get laid in college?


Hit the gym.  Girls like playing with muscly bodies.
 
2013-07-20 02:09:36 AM

spacelord321: oes anyone in this thread have any advice on how to get laid in college?


i40.tinypic.com
 
2013-07-20 02:24:20 AM

poe_zlaw:

I was white and wealthy in college and I got to bang tons of slutty white women. As well as a couple of Latinas and Asians, a Hawaiian chick, a couple of sistas, made sweet love to a half sista (I married her), a Jewish girl with the biggest and best tits I ever got to do great things too. Even a couple of poor fat ones.

What does all that mean?

You're a slut.  NTTAWWT.
 
2013-07-20 02:27:41 AM

Deedeemarz: Seriously, do researchers really believe that college kids tell the truth in these surveys? And yes I am aware there are maths to control for lying on these surveys but I don't think even math is up to the job of separating truth from lies when dealing with the alcohol-blurred memories/regrets/fantasies of a bunch of college kids.


a researcher did not write that.
it was a sociologist.
at occidental college of all places.

sociologists in America get paid to create unprovable/undisprovable theories about how patriarchal capitalist society has been f*cking everyone over since we left the communal-hunter-gatherer-stage-utopia-stage 10,000 years ago because *competition*, that's why, and utopia communism is within our reach if we could just see through these damn racist/sexist/classist/heighist/skinny/ culturist/atractivist LENSES stuck on everyones eyes!

I wouldn't hold my breath for real research from that lot if I was you.
 
2013-07-20 02:30:14 AM

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: spacelord321: Does anyone in this thread have any advice on how to get laid in college?

Hit the gym.  Girls like playing with muscly bodies.




I'm at the gym everyday.

...in fact, I have to be there in 26 minutes!
 
2013-07-20 02:30:22 AM

poe_zlaw: I was white and wealthy in college and I got to bang tons of slutty white women. As well as a couple of Latinas and Asians, a Hawaiian chick, a couple of sistas, made sweet love to a half sista (I married her), a Jewish girl with the biggest and best tits I ever got to do great things too. Even a couple of poor fat ones.

What does all that mean?


white privilege. or maybe a big wang. no white privilege I think.
 
2013-07-20 02:42:07 AM

fullyautomatic: Being just out of college, I can attest that the term "hookup" doesn't mean just sex anymore like it used to. Weird how that changed, since hookup used to specifically mean just sex, usually without any of the other bases. Also, anyone can have sex in college, regardless of color or cash.


Fo' Sho'. Hell I was piss broke most of the time and rode a bicycle in college and that didn't seem to hinder anybody, drunk or otherwise. Of course then I lived next to AZ State at the time and just showing up at the parties is about all one had to do.

I'm thinking this gal spent too much time writing and not enough getting out of the house sometimes. For more empirical evidence of her claims, of course.
 
2013-07-20 02:44:09 AM

relcec: Deedeemarz: Seriously, do researchers really believe that college kids tell the truth in these surveys? And yes I am aware there are maths to control for lying on these surveys but I don't think even math is up to the job of separating truth from lies when dealing with the alcohol-blurred memories/regrets/fantasies of a bunch of college kids.

a researcher did not write that.
it was a sociologist.
at occidental college of all places.

sociologists in America get paid to create unprovable/undisprovable theories about how patriarchal capitalist society has been f*cking everyone over since we left the communal-hunter-gatherer-stage-utopia-stage 10,000 years ago because *competition*, that's why, and utopia communism is within our reach if we could just see through these damn racist/sexist/classist/heighist/skinny/ culturist/atractivist LENSES stuck on everyones eyes!

I wouldn't hold my breath for real research from that lot if I was you.


I'm curious what that means to you in regards to this article.
 
2013-07-20 02:48:29 AM

ThrobblefootSpectre:

GeneralJim: I would hit her without regrets, then take her to dinner and a movie, and hit again. Methinks subby is confused.

No.  You might  want to hit that, but only get a lecture on the evils of the white socioecopatriarchy.  Then sit through dinner listening to why you should feel guilty about your skin color.   Then after the movie during her lecture about why you should feel bad about not being poor, you touch her knee and get accused of rape.
Actually, that's probably closer to reality...  Operant word is "WOULD." Mine was just a reaction to the headline, "columnist who was too ugly to be anyone's regret."  Author is NOT "ugly."   On the other hand, "pain in the ass to be around" is a whole separate issue, and nowhere near as easy to spot as the "ugly" problem.
 
2013-07-20 02:49:04 AM

spacelord321: Does anyone in this thread have any advice on how to get laid in college?


I can't tell you much about "How to get laid in college", but DON'T do these things:

1) Don't live in the dorms on the Engineering campus all 4 years because the walk to all your classes was 5 minutes.  Giant sausage fest.
2) Don't take 2 jobs.  If you do, don't volunteer for the 7 AM weekend shifts out of fear of your boss because this means that you can't go drinking on Fridays/Saturdays.
2b) Don't take 16 credits of upper-level Engineering, run 2 clubs, and have 2 jobs.  You can forget sleeping, much less getting laid.   (The upshot of this is that I made more in 4 months at the internship this got me than my parents did in 12.  The downside is that you're definitely in "Disregard Females, Acquire Currency" mode)
3) In fact, don't major in Engineering.   Giantsausage fest.
4) If you do major in Engineering, don't take 16 credits of upper-level Engineering including 2 classes that you knew for a fact were 40-60 hours/week.
5) If you do this, but one of your group members is this single hot blond party girl software engineer, at least try to hook up.  Seriously, she's pretty much the only girl you're going to see, much less talk to, for the next year or so.
6) Do go to parties with your liberal arts major freshman roommate who was hooked into the frat scene instead of doing actual classwork.

Appearance:
7) Don't trade food for sleep.  I gained 40 pounds Freshman year (lost all 40 that summer), 60 pounds sophomore (gained 5 that summer), 20 pounds junior year (lost 15 pounds that summer), and gained 10 senior semester.  Thank god I'm 6'4" and wide, so I can be 320 and still merely be fat.8) DON'T use caffeine pills for multi-day all-nighters.  3 days (and 7 grams) in, you're a twitchy zombie who can't walk in a straight line, speak words, or feel your left leg.  [sarcasm] Very Attractive. [/sarcasm]  For that matter, if you're doing true multi-day all-nighters, you've farked up somewhere along the line.
9) Showering is important.  However, washing your sheets every time there's a heat wave (defined as 35 or higher because the dorms suck in heat, have no A/C, and you have ~1000 W of computer hardware pumping heat into a ~ 640 ft^3 room) or every week or so is just as, if not more important.  Otherwise, you'll stink every time you take a cat nap.
10) Grooming is useful.  SHAVE often (even if just to get a clearly defined beard).  Always have a pocket comb so you can deal with unruly hair (or better yet, find the local barbers and drop $12 + tip on getting it chopped 95% off).  Keep your clothes hanged up in the closet and reasonably neat.  At the very least, take 15 minutes in the morning to brush teeth, deal with hair, and ensure that your clothing is is clean and on right-side out   What you should never do is get out of bed 5 minutes before class on 4-6 hours of sleep, grab your rumpled clothes out of the pile on the floor, put them on inside out, and meander to class bleary-eyed, with screwed up hair, and 2 weeks worth of stubble.
 
2013-07-20 02:57:36 AM
I went to a community college. Hookup opportunities were nonexistant. Then again, I didn't really have any desire to go in the first place, so that probably had something to do with it.

/white
//working-class background
///never dated in college
////slashies
 
2013-07-20 03:03:12 AM

GeneralJim: Subby: "claims columnist who was too ugly to be anyone's regret".
I would hit her without regrets, then take her to dinner and a movie, and hit again. Methinks subby is confused.
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Dr. Lisa Wade, PhD.


She probably couldn't shut up.

Girls, tip:  If you want farked, shut up and keep touching his dick.
 
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