LZeitgeist: Good luck hacking my '88 Pontiac.
RexTalionis: LZeitgeist: Good luck hacking my '88 Pontiac.Easily. Specifically, you hack the brake line.
LZeitgeist: RexTalionis: LZeitgeist: Good luck hacking my '88 Pontiac.Easily. Specifically, you hack the brake line.Remotely?
Lsherm: Why is this a big deal? You've been able to reprogram ECU's with aftermarket mods for years now.
ReapTheChaos: I'd have to see proof of this, I could see turning a car on/off remotely, but actually driving it seems a little far fetched. The computers on cars may monitor acceleration and breaking but I don't think they have the ability to actually control them.
Sim Tree: I control it remotly, and when I get this baby up to 88 miles per hour, you're going to see some serious shiat.
Surool: Does it turn your steering wheel, disable the brakes (including the e-brake), or prevent you from putting it in neutral and turning off the ignition?
Vaneshi: My car I can't control IT!!!!!!111111eleventy.*pushes clutch, puts on handbrake,*And problem solved.
monthos: Surool: Does it turn your steering wheel, disable the brakes (including the e-brake), or prevent you from putting it in neutral and turning off the ignition?For the example in this article, steering isn't necessary as it was intended to kill the guy by driving fast into an object, straight lines will always find an object to hit. Also in a fit of panic when a car goes out of control, shifting to neutral or turning the ignition off is ironically the last thing most people think of, as its not a learned expierience when trying to drive a car. Acceleration and braking are commonly controlled nowadays by the computer, so it can let off the brakes/gas or apply them since both of those are part of advanced traction control systems (removing the driver from the controls briefly, as the computer knows best). Now as for the e-brake, thats normally purely mechanical, but its also very weak.
Tom_Slick: Vaneshi: My car I can't control IT!!!!!!111111eleventy.*pushes clutch, puts on handbrake,*And problem solved.It's a shifter car I can't drive a shifter car.
Vaneshi: Either way the engine dies.
DrPainMD: Regardless of the hackablity, or lack thereof, of cars, anybody who thinks that Michael Hastings' death was anything other than first-degree murder is an idiot.
Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: Remember those GM commercials from a few years back where the On-Star service is used to remotely disable a "stolen" vehicle so the cops can recover it? If some customer service flunkie can do that, anyone can, with the right tools.As much as I want to buy a new car, the amount of always-connected electronic crap they shove into them these days is a major turnoff. I don't want my car tattling to the insurance company. I don't want a farking touchscreen on the dashboard.What I want is a modern, lightweight chassis with modern safety technology, a fuel-efficient, reliable engine that makes at least 100hp/L, a proper manual transmission with 5 or 6 speeds, a good no-frills sound system with physical buttons to control it, air conditioning, bucket seats, and not much else. Maybe a cupholder and place to charge my phone.
Sgeo: Because people rarely die in car crashes?
Znuh: You want a Lotus Elise. For real.
skozlaw: Znuh: You want a Lotus Elise. For real.Actually, he wants a BRZ/FR-S. Unless he wants to go to the track, in which case you're correct.
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