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(NYPost)   Like thousands of other new fathers in Britain, Prince William will get just two weeks of paternity leave when his child is born. New fathers in America wonder what this paternity leave thing is   (nypost.com) divider line 136
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2013-07-19 04:55:04 PM
Mothers, who receive the bulk of parental leave, can take up to a year off, though only 39 weeks of it is paid, and not at full salary.

New mothers in America wonder what this paid maternity leave is...or, unpaid as a matter of fact.
 
2013-07-19 05:17:38 PM
STFU and GBTW
 
2013-07-19 05:24:14 PM
Doesn't matter if it's paid or unpaid if it means the boss will find a way to let you go at the next opportunity if you dare to take it, regardless of what the law says.
 
2013-07-19 05:26:33 PM
Paternity Leave, American style:

"Whoa dude... My biatch is pregnant - time to LEAVE!"
 
2013-07-19 06:16:28 PM

SecretAgentWoman: Mothers, who receive the bulk of parental leave, can take up to a year off, though only 39 weeks of it is paid, and not at full salary.

New mothers in America wonder what this paid maternity leave is...or, unpaid as a matter of fact.


The Family and Medical Leave Act allows parents (both mother and father) to take 12 weeks off, unpaid, for the birth of a child.
 
2013-07-19 06:24:23 PM
Now THAT'S a welfare queen.

//king
//prince
//whatever
 
2013-07-19 06:28:13 PM
America- "If you're having a baby on your own time, then I expect you to deal with it without impacting your work.  Keep it in the filing cabinet and feed it on your own break."
 
2013-07-19 06:28:28 PM

Peki: Doesn't matter if it's paid or unpaid if it means the boss will find a way to let you go at the next opportunity if you dare to take it, regardless of what the law says.


Says the guy working at Wal*Mart....
 
2013-07-19 06:34:57 PM
I got it, but then Symantec had a pretty kickass benefit package when I worked for them (even if they only paid me $11/hr up in Oregon).

Bonus, they let me use it 1 week after I got hired on full time from the temp position I'd had for nearly a year.

It was awesome.

//Being on food stamps while working for a Fortune 500 company, not so awesome, but I digress.
 
2013-07-19 06:37:11 PM

dustman81: SecretAgentWoman: Mothers, who receive the bulk of parental leave, can take up to a year off, though only 39 weeks of it is paid, and not at full salary.

New mothers in America wonder what this paid maternity leave is...or, unpaid as a matter of fact.

The Family and Medical Leave Act allows parents (both mother and father) to take 12 weeks off, unpaid, for the birth of a child.


That's also subject to how long you've been employed by the company and how many other employees are on the rolls.

/tis bullshiat
 
2013-07-19 06:41:05 PM
Paternity leave. Isn't that when you become a father, you leave and leave the mother to bring up the child? Americans are familiar with that.
 
2013-07-19 06:47:36 PM

The Shatner Incident: dustman81: SecretAgentWoman: Mothers, who receive the bulk of parental leave, can take up to a year off, though only 39 weeks of it is paid, and not at full salary.

New mothers in America wonder what this paid maternity leave is...or, unpaid as a matter of fact.

The Family and Medical Leave Act allows parents (both mother and father) to take 12 weeks off, unpaid, for the birth of a child.

That's also subject to how long you've been employed by the company and how many other employees are on the rolls.

/tis bullshiat


Yep. If you happen to start work pregnant, whether you know it or not, and therefore give birth without having been there for at least a year, they can give you "prorated" leave, or even no leave at all. If there are fewer than 50 employees, the employer doesn't have to give you any leave at all.
 
2013-07-19 06:49:29 PM
Paternity leave from what? Being Duke of Cambridge?
 
2013-07-19 06:51:40 PM
America, the crop harvested by Bornwells.
 
2013-07-19 06:53:59 PM
When my daughter was born I took off seven weeks of the 12 I was entitled to, as the father.

Maybe that's just California.
 
2013-07-19 06:54:18 PM
The business of America is business. Not vajayjays.
 
2013-07-19 06:57:44 PM

lostcat: When my daughter was born I took off seven weeks of the 12 I was entitled to, as the father.

Maybe that's just California.


The Family Leave Act makes allowances for both mothers and fathers.  The problem is that most fathers can't afford to take it off since they don't get paid.
 
2013-07-19 06:58:28 PM

dustman81: SecretAgentWoman: Mothers, who receive the bulk of parental leave, can take up to a year off, though only 39 weeks of it is paid, and not at full salary.

New mothers in America wonder what this paid maternity leave is...or, unpaid as a matter of fact.

The Family and Medical Leave Act allows parents (both mother and father) to take 12 weeks off, unpaid, for the birth of a child.


This. Brother recently had to pull a bunch of doubles (as well as overtime) when his coworker took time off for the birth of his child.
 
2013-07-19 07:03:55 PM

Fart_Machine: lostcat: When my daughter was born I took off seven weeks of the 12 I was entitled to, as the father.

Maybe that's just California.

The Family Leave Act makes allowances for both mothers and fathers.  The problem is that most fathers can't afford to take it off since they don't get paid.


Women don't get paid either.
 
2013-07-19 07:03:58 PM

Fart_Machine: lostcat: When my daughter was born I took off seven weeks of the 12 I was entitled to, as the father.

Maybe that's just California.

The Family Leave Act makes allowances for both mothers and fathers.  The problem is that most fathers can't afford to take it off since they don't get paid.


If I remember correctly, you can apply for assistance while you are on leave and not being paid. I looked into it, but there was too much paperwork involved. Basically filing for unemployment for all but the first week you are not collecting wages.
 
2013-07-19 07:05:11 PM
I am a state employee. Six weeks, coulda had 12
 
2013-07-19 07:20:37 PM

jigger: Paternity leave from what? Being Duke of Cambridge?


Flying a helicopter in Afghanistan?
 
2013-07-19 07:22:26 PM
I get a week
 
2013-07-19 07:23:18 PM

fusillade762: jigger: Paternity leave from what? Being Duke of Cambridge?

Flying a helicopter in Afghanistan?


Picking up drunk sailors from the Irish Sea?
 
2013-07-19 07:24:10 PM

SecretAgentWoman: Mothers, who receive the bulk of parental leave, can take up to a year off, though only 39 weeks of it is paid, and not at full salary.

New mothers in America wonder what this paid maternity leave is...or, unpaid as a matter of fact.


Fascism. Gotta love it.
 
2013-07-19 07:24:35 PM
It's an advertising program to sell vasectomies.
 
2013-07-19 07:25:18 PM

lostcat: Fart_Machine: lostcat: When my daughter was born I took off seven weeks of the 12 I was entitled to, as the father.

Maybe that's just California.

The Family Leave Act makes allowances for both mothers and fathers.  The problem is that most fathers can't afford to take it off since they don't get paid.

If I remember correctly, you can apply for assistance while you are on leave and not being paid. I looked into it, but there was too much paperwork involved. Basically filing for unemployment for all but the first week you are not collecting wages.


It's not that hard in Cali. EDD paperwork is 2 pages long and my wife got paid for all 12 weeks. I only too 2 weeks off (I was stupid) because we were supposed to have a big project in the pipeline. The project got delayed about 4 months so OT happened but I could have taken the 3 months off and still be back in time for it.
 
2013-07-19 07:33:38 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDZ4fjZq-H4

Not tha baby daddy dance fo'  y'all!
 
2013-07-19 07:46:36 PM

fusillade762: jigger: Paternity leave from what? Being Duke of Cambridge?

Flying a helicopter in Afghanistan?


That's the gingerbread prince.
 
2013-07-19 07:51:20 PM

dustman81: The Family and Medical Leave Act allows parents (both mother and father) to take 12 weeks off, unpaid, for the birth of a child.


The majority of people who need such a leave aren't financially in a position to take three months of unpaid work off. Many of the middle class or upper middle class have females in heterosexual relationships that aren't employed. The people who need the leave most likely A) cannot afford to take unpaid leave, and B) don't have the long-term employment necessary to take full 12 weeks of unpaid leave.

I mean even if you could scale it back to 8 weeks of paid leave instead of 12 weeks unpaid, you'd make a hell of a difference among the poor families who are the ones that need it!
 
2013-07-19 07:52:15 PM
In Canada parents share up to one year of parental leave, shared in the proportion they choose.

How much they're compensated depends on the province.  Here in Québec it is 75% of pay up to a maximum of $75,000 per year.  It's paid through our employment and parental leave insurance programs.
 
2013-07-19 07:53:07 PM

dustman81: SecretAgentWoman: Mothers, who receive the bulk of parental leave, can take up to a year off, though only 39 weeks of it is paid, and not at full salary.

New mothers in America wonder what this paid maternity leave is...or, unpaid as a matter of fact.

The Family and Medical Leave Act allows parents (both mother and father) to take 12 weeks off, unpaid, for the birth of a child.


or the addition of a child to your home through foster or adoption. also does not apply to all employers, or to all employees of qualified employers.
 
2013-07-19 07:57:46 PM

dehehn: fusillade762: jigger: Paternity leave from what? Being Duke of Cambridge?

Flying a helicopter in Afghanistan?

That's the gingerbread prince.


Yup, I think the word was that William wanted to serve in combat, but there was no farking way that the palace or the RAF would ever allow it. Search and Rescue allowed him to do something real without getting shot at. They were fine with Harry putting himself in live fire, though.
 
2013-07-19 08:11:25 PM

cptjeff: They were fine with Harry putting himself in live fire, though.


That's cuz Harry isn't royal blood.

/c'mon, he don't even look like Charles
 
2013-07-19 08:16:20 PM

Ishkur: cptjeff: They were fine with Harry putting himself in live fire, though.

That's cuz Harry isn't royal blood.

/c'mon, he don't even look like Charles


Actually, he heavily favors Prince Philip, if you compare pictures of him when he was younger to Harry.
 
2013-07-19 08:24:21 PM

fusillade762: jigger: Paternity leave from what? Being Duke of Cambridge?

Flying a helicopter in Afghanistan?


Isnt that the other one?
 
2013-07-19 08:28:36 PM
oi40.tinypic.com
 
2013-07-19 08:29:51 PM

jigger: Paternity leave from what? Being Duke of Cambridge?


Wills is a search and rescue helicopter pilot. His brother Harry's the attack chopper pilot.
 
2013-07-19 08:31:31 PM

Coco LaFemme: Ishkur: cptjeff: They were fine with Harry putting himself in live fire, though.

That's cuz Harry isn't royal blood.

/c'mon, he don't even look like Charles

Actually, he heavily favors Prince Philip, if you compare pictures of him when he was younger to Harry.


The jokes are still funny, though. But he should indeed be very, very thankful he got his hair from the Spencer side.
 
2013-07-19 08:31:37 PM

Coco LaFemme: Ishkur: cptjeff: They were fine with Harry putting himself in live fire, though.

That's cuz Harry isn't royal blood.

/c'mon, he don't even look like Charles

Actually, he heavily favors Prince Philip, if you compare pictures of him when he was younger to Harry.


And he looks exactly like Diana's brother, whatsisname Spencer.
 
2013-07-19 08:33:43 PM
I got a few days.  Too bad I couldn't have had him on Friday rather than Sunday so I could've had a whole 5 days off.
 
2013-07-19 08:36:48 PM

tennesseemike: I get a week


I got a rock. :-(
 
2013-07-19 08:40:56 PM
oi41.tinypic.com
 
2013-07-19 08:54:50 PM
My wife and I are adopting this year, and I so asked about my new company's paternity leave policy (I've been working here since November).  It's quite good, I thought: up to 3 weeks unpaid leave, and then up to 4 weeks PTO can be taken before I've earned it (I just have to pay it back).  All this without knowing an exact date, too.

They're a relatively new (less than 10 yrs), fast growing company (350 employees, hiring 80+ engineers and dba types this year alone) in a competitive field.  I hear rumors they've lost talent to other companies with better benefits packages in the past, and because of that they've tried to shore theirs up quite a bit.

My wife has also banked up 6 weeks of PTO at her job, so we're set.
 
2013-07-19 09:02:59 PM
Think women got six months, men six weeks for maternity leave where I worked.
 
2013-07-19 09:09:37 PM
But after two weeks, he's back to punching the clock, right?
 
2013-07-19 09:26:05 PM
My paternity leave was burning through my entire vacation allotment and a few sick days because he was born in the NICU. My wife's maternity leave was fully unpaid. Two weeks paid would have been a dream.
 
2013-07-19 09:29:11 PM
We have had a rash of wives having kids at work. We have had 3 in the last 2 months, and there are two more due before the end of the year. We are a small company, so not having someone around for a long time is a real burden. Still, we work with the employee to figure out what works for both of us.

Most of the new Dads have taken a week on average, and are (apparently) happy to be back at work after that. This may have something to do with the arrival of Ma-in-Law to help with the kid, but draw your own conclusions.
 
2013-07-19 09:29:55 PM

KWess: In Canada parents share up to one year of parental leave, shared in the proportion they choose.

How much they're compensated depends on the province.  Here in Québec it is 75% of pay up to a maximum of $75,000 per year.  It's paid through our employment and parental leave insurance programs.


I had to take essentially two years off (my ex was and is a terrible mom) and we were elligible for squat in BC.
 
2013-07-19 09:50:20 PM

dustman81: SecretAgentWoman: Mothers, who receive the bulk of parental leave, can take up to a year off, though only 39 weeks of it is paid, and not at full salary.

New mothers in America wonder what this paid maternity leave is...or, unpaid as a matter of fact.

The Family and Medical Leave Act allows parents (both mother and father) to take 12 weeks off, unpaid, for the birth of a child.


Unless you're "at will," at which point they'll just fire your ass if you even bother mentioning it.

/because FREE MARKET!
 
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