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2013-07-19 02:10:14 PM  
He's not a hero either.  He's kind of the quintessential anti-hero, almost as though GRRM was written by GRRM.

Neil Gaiman though, he's more of an epic fantasy character.  Especially with the wild hair.  I have to wonder where his fist size ruby is though.
 
2013-07-19 02:59:50 PM  

SphericalTime: I have to wonder where his fist size ruby is though.


www.toptenz.net
 
2013-07-19 03:01:31 PM  
Heh,  Trogdor is on the cover of that book in the video.
 
2013-07-19 03:02:45 PM  
All I got from this article is that George RR Martin spent some time doing something that  wasn't writing the next Song of Ice and Fire book.
 
2013-07-19 03:04:16 PM  

XMark: All I got from this article is that George RR Martin spent some time doing something that  wasn't writing the next Song of Ice and Fire book.


He's not your biatch

/write faster already Martin
 
2013-07-19 03:18:20 PM  
That was pretty awesome.
 
2013-07-19 03:18:46 PM  
He's not  your biatch. He's A biatch, apparently.
 
2013-07-19 03:19:55 PM  

XMark: All I got from this article is that George RR Martin spent some time doing something that  wasn't writing the next Song of Ice and Fire book.


Was that in the same paragraph where they explain that water is wet and the sun rises in the morning?
 
2013-07-19 03:20:21 PM  

XMark: All I got from this article is that George RR Martin spent some time doing something that  wasn't writing the next Song of Ice and Fire book.


Which wouldn't be that bad, if that something didn't take 5 years

/And the books were better
 
2013-07-19 03:28:07 PM  
He's not my biatch but I'm considering being his Annie Wilkes...

Anyone seen my hobbling hammer?

/jokes, jokes...honest officers...
 
2013-07-19 03:32:41 PM  
Shut up Gaiman

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2013-07-19 03:34:23 PM  
God, he looks old and fat.  I'm actually kinda shocked he didn't go into cardiac arrest from the exertion.  Is it too late to speculate on who will write the novels that will finish the series?
 
2013-07-19 03:34:58 PM  
Er.. too early I meant.
 
2013-07-19 03:45:01 PM  

XMark: All I got from this article is that George RR Martin spent some time doing something that  wasn't writing the next Song of Ice and Fire book.


This is what is going to happen:

GRRM will die and everyone will wail and gnash their teeth because he didn't finish. But then, during the reading of his will, it will be announced that he actually finished the entire series, with three prequel novels, back in 1987 while he was still doing Wild Cards.

The UN will then declare that GRRM is the greatest troll that has ever lived and declare his tomb a world heritage site.
 
2013-07-19 03:47:41 PM  

Some 'Splainin' To Do: back in 1987 while he was still doing Wild Cards


Pssst.  He's still doing Wild Cards.  ::sigh::
 
2013-07-19 03:56:17 PM  
Santa looks pissed.
 
2013-07-19 03:58:02 PM  
Good for him.
 
2013-07-19 03:59:54 PM  

Some 'Splainin' To Do: XMark: All I got from this article is that George RR Martin spent some time doing something that  wasn't writing the next Song of Ice and Fire book.

This is what is going to happen:

GRRM will die and everyone will wail and gnash their teeth because he didn't finish. But then, during the reading of his will, it will be announced that he actually finished the entire series, with three prequel novels, back in 1987 while he was still doing Wild Cards.

The UN will then declare that GRRM is the greatest troll that has ever lived and declare his tomb a world heritage site.


Either that or Brandon Sanderson will finish his work in 6 months.
 
2013-07-19 04:01:20 PM  

XMark: All I got from this article is that George RR Martin spent some time doing something that  wasn't writing the next Song of Ice and Fire book.


I can only hope that he croaks before finishing the next book. It would warm my heart.

Some 'Splainin' To Do: XMark: All I got from this article is that George RR Martin spent some time doing something that  wasn't writing the next Song of Ice and Fire book.

This is what is going to happen:

GRRM will die and everyone will wail and gnash their teeth because he didn't finish. But then, during the reading of his will, it will be announced that he actually finished the entire series, with three prequel novels, back in 1987 while he was still doing Wild Cards.

The UN will then declare that GRRM is the greatest troll that has ever lived and declare his tomb a world heritage site.


Or, this. This, too, would warm my heart.

What would be truly evil is if GRRM's previously-unknown kid decides to dry-hump his work, cranking out shiatty book after shiatty book, capitalizing upon the grief and rage generated by GRRM's unfinished series. (See "Brian Herbert", below.)

art.penny-arcade.com
 
2013-07-19 04:09:28 PM  

Some 'Splainin' To Do: XMark: All I got from this article is that George RR Martin spent some time doing something that  wasn't writing the next Song of Ice and Fire book.

This is what is going to happen:

GRRM will die and everyone will wail and gnash their teeth because he didn't finish. But then, during the reading of his will, it will be announced that he actually finished the entire series, with three prequel novels, back in 1987 while he was still doing Wild Cards.

The UN will then declare that GRRM is the greatest troll that has ever lived and declare his tomb a world heritage site.


Strangely enough, HBO required some kind of a "how does this end" in his contract.
So technically GRRM could die leaving us without books (he has stated that there will be no FINISHING after he is dead. which he will have zero control over once he is dead).

But HBO could finish the series?
How amazing it would be to actually know when we would get to the end, in season 37.
 
2013-07-19 04:10:42 PM  

redmid17: Either that or Brandon Sanderson will finish his work in 6 months.


Go ahead, hire the guy who couldn't finish another series in 6 months and completely botched the final book.
 
2013-07-19 04:14:31 PM  

Handsome B. Wonderful: redmid17: Either that or Brandon Sanderson will finish his work in 6 months.

Go ahead, hire the guy who couldn't finish another series in 6 months and completely botched the final book.


What does that have to do with Brandon Sanderson?
 
2013-07-19 04:31:17 PM  
Did subby read the article? This headline implies the opposite of what Gaiman said.
 
2013-07-19 04:34:09 PM  
At this rate, I just won't care enough to buy books when they come out.

/I'm bitter, you do it
 
2013-07-19 04:36:53 PM  

XMark: All I got from this article is that George RR Martin spent some time doing something that  wasn't writing the next Song of Ice and Fire book.


Which isn't exactly news considering if the series were a person it would almost be old enough to vote.
 
2013-07-19 04:38:29 PM  

redmid17: Some 'Splainin' To Do: XMark: All I got from this article is that George RR Martin spent some time doing something that  wasn't writing the next Song of Ice and Fire book.

This is what is going to happen:

GRRM will die and everyone will wail and gnash their teeth because he didn't finish. But then, during the reading of his will, it will be announced that he actually finished the entire series, with three prequel novels, back in 1987 while he was still doing Wild Cards.

The UN will then declare that GRRM is the greatest troll that has ever lived and declare his tomb a world heritage site.

Either that or Brandon Sanderson will finish his work in 6 months.


Sanderson said something about not even being able to finish reading the books so I don't think that is likely.

I vote for joe abercrombie
 
2013-07-19 04:43:53 PM  

Carth: I vote for joe abercrombie


A Song of Ice and Fire is depressing enough already.  Abercrombie's books are just unrelentingly down-beat.
 
2013-07-19 04:46:49 PM  

Fish in a Barrel: Carth: I vote for joe abercrombie

A Song of Ice and Fire is depressing enough already.  Abercrombie's books are just unrelentingly down-beat.


I kind of like that about him though. A world where his characters live doesn't seem suited to happy endings and times of joy. He sums up the idea that life is "nasty short brutish and poor" and gets you to root for some pretty horrible people.
 
2013-07-19 04:47:19 PM  

redmid17: Some 'Splainin' To Do: XMark: All I got from this article is that George RR Martin spent some time doing something that  wasn't writing the next Song of Ice and Fire book.

This is what is going to happen:


GRRM will die and everyone will wail and gnash their teeth because he didn't finish. But then, during the reading of his will, it will be announced that he actually finished the entire series, with three prequel novels, back in 1987 while he was still doing Wild Cards.


The UN will then declare that GRRM is the greatest troll that has ever lived and declare his tomb a world heritage site.


Either that or Brandon Sanderson will finish his work in 6 months.


I was genuinely pleased with the final books of WoT. Sanderson did a good job with the material he was left with. There was genuine emotion from me while reading A Memory of Light. I wouldn't mind if he was given the task on Martin's inevitable death.

 
2013-07-19 04:54:06 PM  

XMark: All I got from this article is that George RR Martin spent some time doing something that  wasn't writing the next Song of Ice and Fire book.


lol -- i looked around the net the other day to see if i could find out what the status of the next book is -- best i can tell he has 200-300 of 1500 pages done. He CLAIMS his pace is 500 pages a year but it looks more like 150 pages a year... He keeps getting sidetracked with dunk and egg stories and crap -- i think he failed hard on his 6p's (proper planning prevents piss poor performance) And now hes got writers block hard. Getting the story to go quite how he originally intended is looking to him like an unassailable mountain. And the only mountains Grrm is going to conquer are mountains of baked ham. I suggest just giving up. Go back to the series when he finally puts out the last book.

Abandon hope. Waiting for the next ice and fire book --its like holding a place in your heart for a girl you used to pine for but is slowly devolving into a meth fueled hooker. Just walk away. There is only bitter pain lying in your path.
 
2013-07-19 05:01:27 PM  

mikefinch: XMark: All I got from this article is that George RR Martin spent some time doing something that  wasn't writing the next Song of Ice and Fire book.

lol -- i looked around the net the other day to see if i could find out what the status of the next book is -- best i can tell he has 200-300 of 1500 pages done. He CLAIMS his pace is 500 pages a year but it looks more like 150 pages a year... He keeps getting sidetracked with dunk and egg stories and crap -- i think he failed hard on his 6p's (proper planning prevents piss poor performance) And now hes got writers block hard. Getting the story to go quite how he originally intended is looking to him like an unassailable mountain. And the only mountains Grrm is going to conquer are mountains of baked ham. I suggest just giving up. Go back to the series when he finally puts out the last book.

Abandon hope. Waiting for the next ice and fire book --its like holding a place in your heart for a girl you used to pine for but is slowly devolving into a meth fueled hooker. Just walk away. There is only bitter pain lying in your path.



I know it's cool to hate on GRRM's writing speed, but I've been reading these things since 01.  I'm in it for the long haul and I've enjoyed every bit of Westeros he has published, from AFFC to the Dunk and Egg stories.  I'll continue waiting happily.

/AFFC and DWD is vastly improved by reading both books at the same time.
//Guide
 
2013-07-19 05:09:24 PM  

Carth: redmid17: Some 'Splainin' To Do: XMark: All I got from this article is that George RR Martin spent some time doing something that  wasn't writing the next Song of Ice and Fire book.

This is what is going to happen:

GRRM will die and everyone will wail and gnash their teeth because he didn't finish. But then, during the reading of his will, it will be announced that he actually finished the entire series, with three prequel novels, back in 1987 while he was still doing Wild Cards.

The UN will then declare that GRRM is the greatest troll that has ever lived and declare his tomb a world heritage site.

Either that or Brandon Sanderson will finish his work in 6 months.

Sanderson said something about not even being able to finish reading the books so I don't think that is likely.

I vote for joe abercrombie


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James Corey is the pseudonym for two guys, one of whom has worked with George R.R. Martin for several years (Daniel Abraham). This was a good book, so I think they can finish it up if he croaks.
 
2013-07-19 05:18:14 PM  

XMark: All I got from this article is that George RR Martin spent some time doing something that  wasn't writing the next Song of Ice and Fire book.


Maybe he's busy consuming trenchers & rashers & whatevers of food so he can be inspired to write the next giant ass food pr0n section of A Song of Lamprey Pies.
 
2013-07-19 05:21:38 PM  

Blues_X: Carth: redmid17: Some 'Splainin' To Do: XMark: All I got from this article is that George RR Martin spent some time doing something that  wasn't writing the next Song of Ice and Fire book.

This is what is going to happen:

GRRM will die and everyone will wail and gnash their teeth because he didn't finish. But then, during the reading of his will, it will be announced that he actually finished the entire series, with three prequel novels, back in 1987 while he was still doing Wild Cards.

The UN will then declare that GRRM is the greatest troll that has ever lived and declare his tomb a world heritage site.

Either that or Brandon Sanderson will finish his work in 6 months.

Sanderson said something about not even being able to finish reading the books so I don't think that is likely.

I vote for joe abercrombie

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James Corey is the pseudonym for two guys, one of whom has worked with George R.R. Martin for several years (Daniel Abraham). This was a good book, so I think they can finish it up if he croaks.


I've heard good things about Daniel Abraham but never read any of his books. Can you recommend a good series of his to start? Ideally something available on Kindle so I can read it tonight. Is The Dragon's Path any good?
 
2013-07-19 05:30:09 PM  

Girion47: mikefinch: XMark: All I got from this article is that George RR Martin spent some time doing something that  wasn't writing the next Song of Ice and Fire book.

lol -- i looked around the net the other day to see if i could find out what the status of the next book is -- best i can tell he has 200-300 of 1500 pages done. He CLAIMS his pace is 500 pages a year but it looks more like 150 pages a year... He keeps getting sidetracked with dunk and egg stories and crap -- i think he failed hard on his 6p's (proper planning prevents piss poor performance) And now hes got writers block hard. Getting the story to go quite how he originally intended is looking to him like an unassailable mountain. And the only mountains Grrm is going to conquer are mountains of baked ham. I suggest just giving up. Go back to the series when he finally puts out the last book.

Abandon hope. Waiting for the next ice and fire book --its like holding a place in your heart for a girl you used to pine for but is slowly devolving into a meth fueled hooker. Just walk away. There is only bitter pain lying in your path.


I know it's cool to hate on GRRM's writing speed, but I've been reading these things since 01.  I'm in it for the long haul and I've enjoyed every bit of Westeros he has published, from AFFC to the Dunk and Egg stories.  I'll continue waiting happily.

/AFFC and DWD is vastly improved by reading both books at the same time.
//Guide


Screw that. If I'm going to wait with bated breath for an upcoming book, I'll continue to do so for Jim Butcher. GRRM? Not so much.
 
2013-07-19 05:33:52 PM  
Carth:I've heard good things about Daniel Abraham but never read any of his books. Can you recommend a good series of his to start? Ideally something available on Kindle so I can read it tonight. Is The Dragon's Path any good?

I read Dragon's Path and the sequel, they aren't bad but they can be a little slow. The first one is mostly politics and banking, things start to pick up a lot more in the second. The third one's out but I haven't got a chance to read it yet.

I don't know if this is still true, but when I bought Leviathan Wakes for my Kindle it came bundled with a free copy of Dragon's Path, and I think the reverse is true as well. Pretty good deal if you're interested in Abraham.
 
2013-07-19 05:34:01 PM  

Carth: Fish in a Barrel: Carth: I vote for joe abercrombie

A Song of Ice and Fire is depressing enough already.  Abercrombie's books are just unrelentingly down-beat.

I kind of like that about him though. A world where his characters live doesn't seem suited to happy endings and times of joy. He sums up the idea that life is "nasty short brutish and poor" and gets you to root for some pretty horrible people.


For me, reading his books feels like masochism at this point.  I end up depressed after reading them.  The brutal hopelessness of his world is just too oppressive.
 
2013-07-19 05:34:59 PM  

Hoboclown: Carth:I've heard good things about Daniel Abraham but never read any of his books. Can you recommend a good series of his to start? Ideally something available on Kindle so I can read it tonight. Is The Dragon's Path any good?

I read Dragon's Path and the sequel, they aren't bad but they can be a little slow. The first one is mostly politics and banking, things start to pick up a lot more in the second. The third one's out but I haven't got a chance to read it yet.

I don't know if this is still true, but when I bought Leviathan Wakes for my Kindle it came bundled with a free copy of Dragon's Path, and I think the reverse is true as well. Pretty good deal if you're interested in Abraham.


Thanks. I'll try it out tonight and see how it goes. I enjoy the politicking sections of some fantasy books better than the battles so it sounds like a win.
 
2013-07-19 05:39:38 PM  
It's hard to wait for a series that's been in progress since...

Wait... 1991?

Come back when you're a fan of the Chtorr books.   *sigh*
 
2013-07-19 06:14:32 PM  

Blues_X: Carth: redmid17: Some 'Splainin' To Do: XMark: All I got from this article is that George RR Martin spent some time doing something that  wasn't writing the next Song of Ice and Fire book.

This is what is going to happen:

GRRM will die and everyone will wail and gnash their teeth because he didn't finish. But then, during the reading of his will, it will be announced that he actually finished the entire series, with three prequel novels, back in 1987 while he was still doing Wild Cards.

The UN will then declare that GRRM is the greatest troll that has ever lived and declare his tomb a world heritage site.

Either that or Brandon Sanderson will finish his work in 6 months.

Sanderson said something about not even being able to finish reading the books so I don't think that is likely.

I vote for joe abercrombie

[img2.imagesbn.com image 248x392]

James Corey is the pseudonym for two guys, one of whom has worked with George R.R. Martin for several years (Daniel Abraham). This was a good book, so I think they can finish it up if he croaks.


Actually, the other guy is he one that works/worked with George (Ty Frank).  He was/is a personal assistant. Not sure if he's still there or not.

/been following GRRM's blog since around 2004, once wrote an e-mail to him suggesting a book which he actually responded to many months later.
//AFFC and DWD are awesome when read together.
/// Like the WoT, if you can't handle sprawling worlds with expanding storylines, maybe don't read epic fantasy.  AFFC reveals awesome stuff about a whole section of Westeros that hadn't really been delved into but logically had some political plan in action.
 
2013-07-19 06:16:49 PM  

The Green Intern: It's hard to wait for a series that's been in progress since...

Wait... 1991?

Come back when you're a fan of the Chtorr books.   *sigh*


Oh God yes. Damn you, David Gerrold.
 
2013-07-19 06:24:11 PM  

Girion47: mikefinch: XMark: All I got from this article is that George RR Martin spent some time doing something that  wasn't writing the next Song of Ice and Fire book.

lol -- i looked around the net the other day to see if i could find out what the status of the next book is -- best i can tell he has 200-300 of 1500 pages done. He CLAIMS his pace is 500 pages a year but it looks more like 150 pages a year... He keeps getting sidetracked with dunk and egg stories and crap -- i think he failed hard on his 6p's (proper planning prevents piss poor performance) And now hes got writers block hard. Getting the story to go quite how he originally intended is looking to him like an unassailable mountain. And the only mountains Grrm is going to conquer are mountains of baked ham. I suggest just giving up. Go back to the series when he finally puts out the last book.

Abandon hope. Waiting for the next ice and fire book --its like holding a place in your heart for a girl you used to pine for but is slowly devolving into a meth fueled hooker. Just walk away. There is only bitter pain lying in your path.


I know it's cool to hate on GRRM's writing speed, but I've been reading these things since 01.  I'm in it for the long haul and I've enjoyed every bit of Westeros he has published, from AFFC to the Dunk and Egg stories.  I'll continue waiting happily.

/AFFC and DWD is vastly improved by reading both books at the same time.
//Guide


As hard as it may be to believe for some, this.
 
2013-07-19 06:34:40 PM  

mikefinch: XMark: All I got from this article is that George RR Martin spent some time doing something that  wasn't writing the next Song of Ice and Fire book.

lol -- i looked around the net the other day to see if i could find out what the status of the next book is -- best i can tell he has 200-300 of 1500 pages done. He CLAIMS his pace is 500 pages a year but it looks more like 150 pages a year... He keeps getting sidetracked with dunk and egg stories and crap -- i think he failed hard on his 6p's (proper planning prevents piss poor performance) And now hes got writers block hard. Getting the story to go quite how he originally intended is looking to him like an unassailable mountain. And the only mountains Grrm is going to conquer are mountains of baked ham. I suggest just giving up. Go back to the series when he finally puts out the last book.

Abandon hope. Waiting for the next ice and fire book --its like holding a place in your heart for a girl you used to pine for but is slowly devolving into a meth fueled hooker. Just walk away. There is only bitter pain lying in your path.


**SPOILERS**
A nice theory, but what actually happened is pretty obvious. 1) He hit the most technically difficult part of the story. In DoD and the following Book, he's got to move lots of characters great distances in such a way that they can cross paths and join forces and/or resolve their disputes, and he has to do it believably. With Daenerys's storyline, he needed to have her High-Fantasy Conquering Hero delusions confronted and stymied by reality, have her abandon that role for a time, and embrace her true role as an implacable, irresistible weapon of Fate and the Gods. This means writing a lot of stuff, and throwing out a lot of stuff, and shuffling a lot of stuff until he gets it just right(which is something he obviously cares about given how punchy the first 3 books are). 2) He has to lay the groundwork for Dorne's contribution to the denouement which, due to the way he's told the story up to that point, required him to write in some Dorne pov characters. He decided to also use this as an opportunity to provide exposition regarding Dragon-Warging and what a certain Westerosi sell-sword company was up to because those will also be very important for the denouement. Without doing this, these developments would have seemed to come out of left-field. 3) The HBO series based made his books even more popular than they had been which required him making time for storyboarding & production meetings as well as press junkets and legal haggling. 4) His unwillingness to sacrifice the stuff he likes about being a fandom-ascended author -attending cons, editing anthologies, managing his comic, sci-fi, and super-hero IP side-projects- means that his schedule is grew even tighter.

Basically, GRRM was already doing a lot of stuff, and the added popularity from the series added new stuff for him to do. Far from being a writer that doesn't care about his fans, he's one who really likes engaging in them and the refusal to abandon his lesser known works or his fan-interactions has meant less time for writing a section of his story that is already pretty dang difficult to choreograph. A lesser author would just half-ass it with some hand-waving, but Martin isn't that kind of writer.
 
2013-07-19 06:55:07 PM  

ShawnDoc: God, he looks old and fat.  I'm actually kinda shocked he didn't go into cardiac arrest from the exertion.  Is it too late to speculate on who will write the novels that will finish the series?


I got to help host a party room and be his gofer at a small convention before the show came out. We closed up the room about 4am one night after he went to see the other parties. He came back as we were cleaning up and was surprised we closed so early. He was drinking all night with everyone and was up and fine the next day for breakfast. Three nights of being up late, drinking and hanging out with fans. Sure he may be getting old and keel over but he is a hardy guy. I'm not to worried.


/write faster George! Please!!!
 
2013-07-19 06:57:03 PM  
@Heron - you're either an insider, or you're autistic. What's your angle?
 
2013-07-19 08:16:28 PM  
literature pro wrestling mashup. cool.
 
2013-07-19 08:26:04 PM  

parazen: @Heron - you're either an insider, or you're autistic. What's your angle?


Seems pretty autistic ;)

/MOVE AT THE SPEED OF PLOT!
There's no "technical" concern to storytelling. It's narrative! Get on with it already!
 
2013-07-19 09:09:42 PM  

bglove25: /// Like the WoT, if you can't handle sprawling worlds with expanding storylines, maybe don't read epic fantasy. AFFC reveals awesome stuff about a whole section of Westeros that hadn't really been delved into but logically had some political plan in action.


Eat a dick. If you want to write a sprawling world with expanding storylines then get everything hammered out hard. Its like he got lost on a country road and your excusing it with "no its just the scenic route"

Heron: A nice theory, but what actually happened is pretty obvious.

123 snip


I half agree with that -- but your blowing grrm a bit. I agree that he hit the most technicaly complex part of his story -- i would suggest though that he didnt have everything hammered into place before hand. He is wading through it and DwD really hammered that home for me. He knew where he wanted his characters to go... but he wasnt exactly sure about the 'how'.

I think its fairly clear that he started to expand on the story far more than what he originally set out to do. AFFC and DwD feel (to me) like George started biting off more than he could chew (and man can that mother chew). An analogy i would use is a runner -- the first book started off at a sprint. The second book was like a nice toned run. CoK was like a good healthy jog, maybe slowing to a trot in some places. A feast was like the runner makeing a pit stop to tighten his shoes and when he started again he got turned around in some thick bush on th side of the road. A Dance was a continuation of slogging through thick bush all while proclaiming "I KNOW WHERE I'M GOING" and it remains to be seen whether the next book will find the path again...

I liked the series but i honestly think Grrm went to work without having the fine details hammered out. I'm sure it will all work out in the end but that doesnt excuse the slow wading muddle that was the last 1500 some pages.

\I DO like the books -- the waiting makes me bitter and way to critical maybe...
\\Also i think going ahead with the TV show before the books were all written was a bad idea. I understand why anyone would go ahead with it (Lord knows i would have) but i think its a bit strange to have him writing a book full of characters now played by actors. Like its a bit of poison for the imagination... But whatever.
\\\Could be worse. Just read The Warded Man and i still have a grumpy twitch in my face. ugh.
 
2013-07-19 09:10:02 PM  
I don't care when he finishes the Song of Ice and Fire anymore. I'm not going to buy another one of GRRM's books until the whole thing is complete, if he ever finishes writing it. I broke a personal rule by reading books in a series before the series was complete and it's been 17 years since the first book was published and the gods only know when he'll finish. Screw it George, I'm waiting until you're through and for the paperbacks to come out. You may well be dead by then. I might well be dead by then.  I don't care anymore, George, there are literally millions of books I haven't read yet, books that are finished, good books, many of them much better than yours.
 
2013-07-19 10:36:31 PM  

red5ish: I don't care when he finishes the Song of Ice and Fire anymore. I'm not going to buy another one of GRRM's books until the whole thing is complete, if he ever finishes writing it. I broke a personal rule by reading books in a series before the series was complete and it's been 17 years since the first book was published and the gods only know when he'll finish. Screw it George, I'm waiting until you're through and for the paperbacks to come out. You may well be dead by then. I might well be dead by then.  I don't care anymore, George, there are literally millions of books I haven't read yet, books that are finished, good books, many of them much better than yours.


So you never read a series until it is done? At best you're waiting like 3-4 years for a best seller? That seems a bit pretentious and/or masochistic.
 
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