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(NHL)   The NHL will send its players to the Sochi Winter Olympics, thus beginning Phase 1 of Bergman's Russian expansion strategy   (nhl.com) divider line 71
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2013-07-19 02:26:03 PM
Is Russia part of the Metropolitian division or the Atlantic division?

/ fark Bettman
// would the resurrection of Smythe, Norris, Adams, and Patrick been so hard?
/// hell, they could have used Gretzky, Howe, Lemieux, and Domi as the division names and it would have been better
//// 5 minute major for division name threadjacking slashies
 
2013-07-19 02:27:57 PM
awesome! looks like I missed the window to order tickets though.
 
2013-07-19 02:37:58 PM
Hell yes. Love me some Olympic hockey.

PowerSlacker: / fark Bettman


I knew the second fans started pushing to name the new divisions after something of historical significance that there was no way in hell the NHL would do it.

The NHL's entire marketing strategy is "Whatever the fans want, do the opposite."
 
2013-07-19 03:11:25 PM
images2.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2013-07-19 03:27:30 PM

PowerSlacker: Is Russia part of the Metropolitian division or the Atlantic division?

/ fark Bettman
// would the resurrection of Smythe, Norris, Adams, and Patrick been so hard?
/// hell, they could have used Gretzky, Howe, Lemieux, and Domi as the division names and it would have been better
//// 5 minute major for division name threadjacking slashies


I especially like how all the old Atlantic Division teams are no longer in the Atlantic Division.
 
2013-07-19 03:45:12 PM

RminusQ: PowerSlacker: Is Russia part of the Metropolitian division or the Atlantic division?

/ fark Bettman
// would the resurrection of Smythe, Norris, Adams, and Patrick been so hard?
/// hell, they could have used Gretzky, Howe, Lemieux, and Domi as the division names and it would have been better
//// 5 minute major for division name threadjacking slashies

I especially like how all the old Atlantic Division teams are no longer in the Atlantic Division.



Or how half the teams in the new Atlantic Division are no where near the Atlantic Ocean.
 
2013-07-19 03:46:15 PM
Funny, I thought phase 1 was Russian NHL stars playing at home for half a season because of the lockout, deciding they like it better there, and retiring from the NHL at age 30.

/not even a Devils fan
 
2013-07-19 03:46:47 PM
What time are the games going to be on? Am I going to have to be up at 4am to watch Canada win the Gold Medal?

/Cause I will
 
2013-07-19 03:47:01 PM
Would have been fine if they didn't go, to be honest, but I suspect you'd see a lot of Russian players pull a Kovalchuk.  As I understand, an Olympic medal generally means more in the Russian consciousness than the Stanley Cup.
 
2013-07-19 03:47:33 PM

homarjr: What time are the games going to be on? Am I going to have to be up at 4am to watch Canada win the Gold Medal?

/Cause I will


Just read the article. 7am gold medal game? Hope the bars open early!
 
2013-07-19 03:48:27 PM

PowerSlacker: /// hell, they could have used Gretzky, Howe, Lemieux, and Domi as the division names and it would have been better


One of these things is not like the others,
One of these things just doesn't belong...
 
2013-07-19 03:49:57 PM

homarjr:  Hope the bars open early!

are still open

ftfy
 
2013-07-19 03:50:02 PM

PowerSlacker: Is Russia part of the Metropolitian division or the Atlantic division?

/ fark Bettman
// would the resurrection of Smythe, Norris, Adams, and Patrick been so hard?
/// hell, they could have used Gretzky, Howe, Lemieux, and Domi as the division names and it would have been better
//// 5 minute major for division name threadjacking slashies


Neither, it's the Leaders division.
 
2013-07-19 03:50:12 PM

Deece: PowerSlacker: /// hell, they could have used Gretzky, Howe, Lemieux, and Domi as the division names and it would have been better

One of these things is not like the others,
One of these things just doesn't belong...


I agree.  Claude Lemieux was a pansy who wouldn't back up his illegal hitting and shouldn't be honored in this way.
 
2013-07-19 03:54:58 PM
We're Metropolitans now - time to go to games dressed like Mr. Peanut!
 
2013-07-19 03:57:43 PM
Who is Bergman?
 
2013-07-19 03:59:44 PM
img14.imageshack.us
 
2013-07-19 03:59:58 PM
Huh.. while glancing across the new division names, I saw that NHL 14 will have a '94 Mode
 
2013-07-19 04:03:10 PM

The Bestest: Huh.. while glancing across the new division names, I saw that NHL 14 will have a '94 Mode


Meh.  I can get that for free.
 
2013-07-19 04:03:25 PM
While I'm glad the Central is still the Central, I'm baffled and perturbed by Metropolitian. WTF.

And while I'm glad NHLers are free to play in Sochi, I have an uneasy feeling about these games.

/and when the fark are the Blues going to sign Pietrangelo?
 
2013-07-19 04:11:53 PM
my theory is Bergman is a cyborg from the future sent back in time to destroy the NHL.

go ahead, try to prove me wrong.

the new scheduling reads like the rules to 43 man squamish. when I got to the end of the scheduling system for the western conference I wanted to punch someone in the face.

then I got to the (exception: one team from each division plays one less game inside division and one more game inside conference outside division) and I wanted to punch myself in the face.

how many times per season does my favorite team face off against our rivals? I live in an nhl city away from my favorite team; how many times per season will my team be in town?

if fans can't answer those questions without a Ouija board and Big Blue, then your system sucks.
 
2013-07-19 04:24:09 PM
Don't worry the schedule and playoff will be fixed when they add two more teams
 
2013-07-19 04:32:23 PM

ElwoodCuse: Don't worry the schedule and playoff will be fixed when they add two more teams


The Seattle Metropolitans and the Atlanta Nordiques.
 
2013-07-19 04:32:30 PM

mcmnky: my theory is Bergman is a cyborg from the future sent back in time to destroy the NHL.


images.wikia.com
 
2013-07-19 04:33:50 PM

Deece: PowerSlacker: /// hell, they could have used Gretzky, Howe, Lemieux, and Domi as the division names and it would have been better

One of these things is not like the others,
One of these things just doesn't belong...


That was the joke.
 
2013-07-19 04:34:01 PM
I won't understand the divisions until some Farkers post MSPaint diagrams in this thread.
 
2013-07-19 04:34:46 PM
1) The Metro division name does suck. I get the argument over using names of past greats for division names (would Toronto or Detroit like playing in the Rocket Richard division? Philly in the Lemieux division?), but the NHL had 4 obvious names to use. Explain the importance to the newer fans and they'll get it.

2) Combine the Phoenix situation with the conference imbalance situation and I think that the schedule clusterfark in the West will last only 3 years until they add teams. If I was a betting man, I'd put money down that this will be a 32-team league by 2016.

3) My bigger objection is the playoff "wild cards." The way I understand it, the division winner with the best record faces the wild card with the worst record. Let's say that Chicago and LA win their divisions, with CHI having the better record and the wild cards are Phoenix and Anaheim. So LA has to (at worst) fly 90 minutes between cities for their 1st round while Chicago has to fly 3-3.5 hours to get to games. How is that fair? They should've just taken the top 4 from each division and leave it at that.
 
2013-07-19 04:37:25 PM

FrancoFile: I won't understand the divisions until some Farkers post MSPaint diagrams in this thread.


Here you go (not mine)...

www.boysonthebus.com

Red= Pacific
Orange= Central

Blue= Atlantic
Green= Metro
 
2013-07-19 04:37:52 PM
it should be interesting to see how the US performs this time.  last time they had no expectations, this time they'll be considered one of the top 3 teams
 
2013-07-19 04:40:04 PM

animesucks: it should be interesting to see how the US performs this time.  last time they had no expectations, this time they'll be considered one of the top 3 teams


I wouldn't say they had no expectations for the Vancouver games. I think they weren't expected to get to the Gold Medal game, but they weren't expected to suck either.
 
2013-07-19 04:53:04 PM

Bubblegum Tate: Funny, I thought phase 1 was Russian NHL stars playing at home for half a season because of the lockout, deciding they like it better there, and retiring from the NHL at age 30.

/not even a Devils fan


i1003.photobucket.com
 
2013-07-19 04:55:52 PM

desertgeek: FrancoFile: I won't understand the divisions until some Farkers post MSPaint diagrams in this thread.

Here you go (not mine)...

[www.boysonthebus.com image 460x311]

Red= Pacific
Orange= Central

Blue= Atlantic
Green= Metro


Metro isn't actually that nonsensical a name for that division, but Atlantic makes no farking sense for those teams.

Throw the idiots who insist on named divisions a bone (nobody could remember who was in what division at the time, get over it) and change the conference names back to Campbell and Wales, and then go with East and Atlantic or East and Metro (if they really must) divisions.

With the Snowbird division being what it is, just about any names they could have picked would have seemed awkward. Because the divisions themselves are.

But don't worry, by the end of this three year trial bit, we'll have 32 teams, which should make things easier.
 
2013-07-19 05:03:32 PM

cptjeff: desertgeek: FrancoFile: I won't understand the divisions until some Farkers post MSPaint diagrams in this thread.

Here you go (not mine)...

[www.boysonthebus.com image 460x311]

Red= Pacific
Orange= Central

Blue= Atlantic
Green= Metro

Metro isn't actually that nonsensical a name for that division, but Atlantic makes no farking sense for those teams.

Throw the idiots who insist on named divisions a bone (nobody could remember who was in what division at the time, get over it) and change the conference names back to Campbell and Wales, and then go with East and Atlantic or East and Metro (if they really must) divisions.

With the Snowbird division being what it is, just about any names they could have picked would have seemed awkward. Because the divisions themselves are.

But don't worry, by the end of this three year trial bit, we'll have 32 teams, which should make things easier.


They could have swapped either Pittsburgh or Columbus for Boston, and gotten "Great Lakes"

As for expansion, Pacific division gets a team in Seattle, but where does the other new team go?  Kansas City? Oklahoma City? Somewhere else in Texas?
 
2013-07-19 05:05:59 PM
Assuming, of course, that there is a Sochi Olympics
 
2013-07-19 05:08:03 PM

FrancoFile: cptjeff: desertgeek: FrancoFile: I won't understand the divisions until some Farkers post MSPaint diagrams in this thread.

Here you go (not mine)...

[www.boysonthebus.com image 460x311]

Red= Pacific
Orange= Central

Blue= Atlantic
Green= Metro

Metro isn't actually that nonsensical a name for that division, but Atlantic makes no farking sense for those teams.

Throw the idiots who insist on named divisions a bone (nobody could remember who was in what division at the time, get over it) and change the conference names back to Campbell and Wales, and then go with East and Atlantic or East and Metro (if they really must) divisions.

With the Snowbird division being what it is, just about any names they could have picked would have seemed awkward. Because the divisions themselves are.

But don't worry, by the end of this three year trial bit, we'll have 32 teams, which should make things easier.

They could have swapped either Pittsburgh or Columbus for Boston, and gotten "Great Lakes"

As for expansion, Pacific division gets a team in Seattle, but where does the other new team go?  Kansas City? Oklahoma City? Somewhere else in Texas?


The Aeros had a committed fanbase but Harris Co.-Houston Sports Authority kept raising the rent on the Toyota Center, so now they're moving to Iowa.  For an NHL team to ever come to Houston, they'd need their own stadium.  KC won't spend the necessary money, so it'd have to be OKC.
 
2013-07-19 05:11:39 PM

FrancoFile: As for expansion, Pacific division gets a team in Seattle, but where does the other new team go?  Kansas City? Oklahoma City? Somewhere else in Texas?


Atlanta.

That team will then move to Quebec after 3 years.
 
2013-07-19 05:18:11 PM

Lifeless: FrancoFile: cptjeff: desertgeek: FrancoFile: I won't understand the divisions until some Farkers post MSPaint diagrams in this thread.

Here you go (not mine)...

[www.boysonthebus.com image 460x311]

Red= Pacific
Orange= Central

Blue= Atlantic
Green= Metro

Metro isn't actually that nonsensical a name for that division, but Atlantic makes no farking sense for those teams.

Throw the idiots who insist on named divisions a bone (nobody could remember who was in what division at the time, get over it) and change the conference names back to Campbell and Wales, and then go with East and Atlantic or East and Metro (if they really must) divisions.

With the Snowbird division being what it is, just about any names they could have picked would have seemed awkward. Because the divisions themselves are.

But don't worry, by the end of this three year trial bit, we'll have 32 teams, which should make things easier.

They could have swapped either Pittsburgh or Columbus for Boston, and gotten "Great Lakes"

As for expansion, Pacific division gets a team in Seattle, but where does the other new team go?  Kansas City? Oklahoma City? Somewhere else in Texas?

The Aeros had a committed fanbase but Harris Co.-Houston Sports Authority kept raising the rent on the Toyota Center, so now they're moving to Iowa.  For an NHL team to ever come to Houston, they'd need their own stadium.  KC won't spend the necessary money, so it'd have to be OKC.


No, OKC is scheduled to get the Seattle team in a few years.
 
2013-07-19 05:18:29 PM

FrancoFile: As for expansion, Pacific division gets a team in Seattle, but where does the other new team go?  Kansas City? Oklahoma City? Somewhere else in Texas?


Quebec would be a good bet, Houston wouldn't shock me. KC or OKC, I dunno. Vegas, probably not. Call me skeptical on the Toronto II rumours, and no Hamilton until Balsillie is dead.
 
2013-07-19 05:20:29 PM
Watching team Canada & team USA beat down the Russians in front of Putin would make my day.
 
2013-07-19 05:23:40 PM

Lifeless: The Aeros had a committed fanbase but Harris Co.-Houston Sports Authority kept raising the rent on the Toyota Center, so now they're moving to Iowa.


If the Coyotes had moved, moving the Aeros to Phoenix/Glendale to become the Canyon Aeros would have been wonderful branding.
 
2013-07-19 05:24:36 PM
Group B looks like it's ripe for a major upset of some sort.

And whoever made that map needs to update it and get rid of the damned Slug in Buffalo.
 
2013-07-19 05:39:08 PM
What's the over/under on someone being arrested under Putin's new anti-gay laws?
 
2013-07-19 05:43:17 PM

ElwoodCuse: Don't worry the schedule and playoff will be fixed when they add two more teams


because the answer to teams losing money is two more teams to lose money.
 
2013-07-19 05:50:20 PM

netweavr: What's the over/under on someone being arrested under Putin's new anti-gay laws?


Sean Avery's not going to make the Canadian team.
 
2013-07-19 05:53:03 PM

cptjeff: With the Snowbird division being what it is, just about any names they could have picked would have seemed awkward. Because the divisions themselves are.

But don't worry, by the end of this three year trial bit, we'll have 32 teams, which should make things easier.


Contract the Florida teams, move Buffalo to the Metrosexual division, problems solved.
 
2013-07-19 05:55:38 PM
Players were going no matter what.  No. Matter. What.  Bettman and the owners are just pretending like they had a role.
 
2013-07-19 06:03:31 PM

GavinTheAlmighty: As I understand, an Olympic medal generally means more in the Russian consciousness than the Stanley Cup.


And they never win either. What difference does it make?
 
2013-07-19 06:12:24 PM
Group B is a creampuff group. Which means Canada will choke at least one game (it won't be Finland) because that's just what they do. Probably Austria. Actually, probably not.

Group A is the group of death. Russia might not even get out of that group.
 
2013-07-19 06:17:09 PM

Lifeless: FrancoFile: cptjeff: desertgeek: FrancoFile: I won't understand the divisions until some Farkers post MSPaint diagrams in this thread.

Here you go (not mine)...

[www.boysonthebus.com image 460x311]

Red= Pacific
Orange= Central

Blue= Atlantic
Green= Metro

Metro isn't actually that nonsensical a name for that division, but Atlantic makes no farking sense for those teams.

Throw the idiots who insist on named divisions a bone (nobody could remember who was in what division at the time, get over it) and change the conference names back to Campbell and Wales, and then go with East and Atlantic or East and Metro (if they really must) divisions.

With the Snowbird division being what it is, just about any names they could have picked would have seemed awkward. Because the divisions themselves are.

But don't worry, by the end of this three year trial bit, we'll have 32 teams, which should make things easier.

They could have swapped either Pittsburgh or Columbus for Boston, and gotten "Great Lakes"

As for expansion, Pacific division gets a team in Seattle, but where does the other new team go?  Kansas City? Oklahoma City? Somewhere else in Texas?

The Aeros had a committed fanbase but Harris Co.-Houston Sports Authority kept raising the rent on the Toyota Center, so now they're moving to Iowa.  For an NHL team to ever come to Houston, they'd need their own stadium.  KC won't spend the necessary money, so it'd have to be OKC.


KC has had an arena in waiting for eight years.  Remember, the Penguins almost moved there in 2007.
 
2013-07-19 06:31:15 PM
Wait, how did this thread on the Olympics turn into a thread on the realignment?

Fine, I'll start:

Canada:

Stamkos - Crosby - St. Louis
Nash - Getzlaf - Perry
Toews - Staal - Giroux
Carter - Bergeron - Richards
Tavares

A little center heavy but all those guys have played wing before. And Carter/Richards are a dynamo on short-man.

Keith - Seabrook
Doughty - Weber
Subban - Letang
Beauchemin

Luongo
Price
Ward
 
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