SecretAgentWoman: /this is getting old, and I know it's only starting - the deliberate misinformation
fickenchucker: OhioUGrad: is upset that he will have to pay a tax on his pacemaker that saved his life.Why do you think he would be happy about this new tax? My wife has an implanted morphine pump for chronic back pain, and we're still not sure what the cost repercussions will be next year, let alone when it need to be replaced. All we know right now is her pain management doctor is retiring early and getting out of the biz. The doctor projected she would be forced into a hefty pay cut and threw in the towel.
Begoggle: Under almost any company health plan, there is a chance you can't keep your own doctor.So?It's not like "your doctor" does a damn thing anyhow. If you have a problem, you see a specialist.
Full Metal Retard: supayoda: Voiceofreason01: and buried WAY at the bottom of the article it notes that "Obamacare" does not in any way effect who your doctor is as that's decided by you and your insurance company.And we're done here. It's basically the same situation it's always been. "Obamacare" is merely a new way to buy the same motherfarkin' crap for-profit insurance we've been boned with for decades. If your insurance company changes (just like it very well could have before Obamacare) then you're going to go with the in-network doctors for the new insurance (just like before Obamacare)....How terrible that someone treated you like an adult, and allowed you to make your own decisions. But I'm sure ObamaCare inserting another middle man will bring down costs. And mandating coverage for minor benefits will certainly reduce costs - like turning $10 a month birth control pills into a $200 monthly expense, because it will now require a full bout of claims processing overhead. I mean... Look at what a Fantastic Job they did with Social Security!!!!!11!! Young people are really set to benefit from that.
robohobo: Thrag: fickenchucker: She said the new rules basically encourage smaller businesses to drop their employee healthcare coverage and pay the fines.How does that work exactly?So, an employer who offers health benefits, who before the ACA could just drop the benefits at any time with zero cost to themselves, will now have an incentive to drop health benefits because now instead of it costing them nothing, it will cost them something?Forgive me if I don't get understand the logic where creating a penalty where there was not one before somehow encourages people to subject themselves to the penalty.If the penalty is less than the cost of providing healthcare, you're getting farked, but not as badly. The gov's gonna get their paper no matter what.
Lando Lincoln: bluefox3681: Well Obamacare is awesome, right? That's why many provisions are being pushed off for another year pass mid-term elections.Yes, it's definitely better than what we had in the past. Are you arguing that we should go back to the way it was?
SecretAgentWoman: Obama was clearly referring to the fact that nothing in the law with force you to change your current insurance or doctor.
dbrunker: We're going to delay the implementation of the Affordable Care Act until after the 2014 elections because... reasons.
RyanAntiHero: Nearly all the doctors are projecting that. But why listen to the people being affected directly? We can listen to people who's total sum of knowledge is their favorite news talking head or the government itself. Because We All Know The Government Never Lies.
HotWingConspiracy: You lost, get over it.
impaler: DubtodaIll: Peter von Nostrand: DubtodaIll: I like how all the point with which they sold obamacare to the public are all turning out to be lies. Now if only people who give a crap.Sounds serious. Do tell......It's endemic of our entire political system. Everything that's sold to the public is never the whole truth. It's unacceptable.That's your fault. Stop watching Fox, MSNBC, CNN, and all TelevisionNews.It's not that hard to figure out what's going on, once you choose not to be deliberately lied to.
DubtodaIll: Peter von Nostrand: DubtodaIll: I like how all the point with which they sold obamacare to the public are all turning out to be lies. Now if only people who give a crap.Sounds serious. Do tell......It's endemic of our entire political system. Everything that's sold to the public is never the whole truth. It's unacceptable.
SecretAgentWoman: and I know it's only starting - the deliberate misinformation.
teenytinycornteeth: Watch a real doctor shut up the Koch brothers in under two minutes. I think it would be so neat if all the people screaming and yelling about how everyone is going to marked with the number of the beast and eaten by doctors because of Obamacare would actually READ a little bit about the Affordable Care Act before believing what their conservative "think tank" overlords tell them is the truth.
Voiceofreason01: and buried WAY at the bottom of the article it notes that "Obamacare" does not in any way effect who your doctor is as that's decided by you and your insurance company.
beakgeek: This is no different than switching health care plans at work. Some doctors might not be in your list of providers. Not some evil socialist plot.
free_xenu: Every time my company changes insurance providers, I am forced to pick a new in-plan doctor.
robohobo: Nhojwolfe: Dr's worth any weight are going to break up into pods and you are going to have to pay 3-6 k a year just for the right to say this is my Dr.Obama care is going to mess up medical care big timeThis has been happening for awhile now. My wife is a specialist, couple years ago she and 7 or 8 other joined together to run their own clinic. First thing they did was opt out of accepting Medicare. They're looking at not accepting insurance, period. It's happening all over.
impaler: SecretAgentWoman: /this is getting old, and I know it's only starting - the deliberate misinformationWhich brings up the point: if Republican ideas are so good, why do they always have to lie to make them look good. Always.
itsaidwhat: Wow. This thread seems to have been jacked by a surprising number of probamacare people. Could just be that all the chumps working to pay taxes to fund ObamaCare are actually at work./on vacation
Aarontology: I am unable to see my old doctor thanks to Obamacare.Some of the anti-fraud provisions in it were responsible for finding out he'd scammed Medicare for over $750,000 by billing them for patients that didn't exist or procedures he didn't perform.
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