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(The Weekly Standard)   2009 "Under Obamacare, you will be able to keep your current doctor." 2013 "Under Obamacare, you may be able to keep your current doctor"   (weeklystandard.com) divider line 224
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2013-07-19 09:42:17 PM

Voiceofreason01: and buried WAY at the bottom of the article it notes that "Obamacare" does not in any way effect who your doctor is as that's decided by you and your insurance company.


And we're done here. It's basically the same situation it's always been. "Obamacare" is merely a new way to buy the same motherfarkin' crap for-profit insurance we've been boned with for decades. If your insurance company changes (just like it very well could have before Obamacare) then you're going to go with the in-network doctors for the new insurance (just like before Obamacare).

/ObamacareObamacareObamacare
//Can we please at least have a public option now? I JUST had a scary medical situation (which thankfully turned out to be nothing) where I opted to make an appointment instead of go to the emergency room because it was the difference between a $35 copay and a $200 copay.
///"Best darn health care in the world" could have actually cost me my life (or severe financial hardship) if it had turned out to be something serious. Thankfully, those chest pains turned out to be due to my asthma and coughing my lungs raw.
 
2013-07-19 09:49:42 PM

meat0918: Mine looks like a young Christopher Reeves + mullet.  I'm keeping him.


I'm going to have to ask for a picture of this.
 
2013-07-19 11:03:39 PM

supayoda: Voiceofreason01: and buried WAY at the bottom of the article it notes that "Obamacare" does not in any way effect who your doctor is as that's decided by you and your insurance company.

And we're done here. It's basically the same situation it's always been. "Obamacare" is merely a new way to buy the same motherfarkin' crap for-profit insurance we've been boned with for decades. If your insurance company changes (just like it very well could have before Obamacare) then you're going to go with the in-network doctors for the new insurance (just like before Obamacare).

...



How terrible that someone treated you like an adult, and allowed you to make your own decisions.  But I'm sure ObamaCare inserting another middle man will bring down costs.  And mandating coverage for minor benefits will certainly reduce costs - like turning $10 a month birth control pills into a $200 monthly expense, because it will now require a full bout of claims processing overhead.  I mean... Look at what a Fantastic Job they did with Social Security!!!!!11!!  Young people are really set to benefit from that.
 
2013-07-19 11:04:31 PM
OK, we passed it, now you can read it...

scrapetv.com

Hoo Hoo!  Joke's on you!
 
2013-07-19 11:56:46 PM

Full Metal Retard: We continue to stand behind real health care reform, but the law as it stands will hurt millions of Americans including the members of our respective unions.We are looking to you to make sure these changes are made.

James P. Hoffa
General President
International Brotherhood of Teamsters

Joseph Hansen
International PresidentUFCW

D. Taylor
President
UNITE-HERE


Wow, if only these guys could get together with like minded individuals to protest to their employers things they think those empoyers are being unfair about.  Maybe if they were more organized and had solidarity, they could have some bargaining power..
 
2013-07-20 12:13:10 AM

Full Metal Retard: supayoda: Voiceofreason01: and buried WAY at the bottom of the article it notes that "Obamacare" does not in any way effect who your doctor is as that's decided by you and your insurance company.

And we're done here. It's basically the same situation it's always been. "Obamacare" is merely a new way to buy the same motherfarkin' crap for-profit insurance we've been boned with for decades. If your insurance company changes (just like it very well could have before Obamacare) then you're going to go with the in-network doctors for the new insurance (just like before Obamacare).

...


How terrible that someone treated you like an adult, and allowed you to make your own decisions.  But I'm sure ObamaCare inserting another middle man will bring down costs.  And mandating coverage for minor benefits will certainly reduce costs - like turning $10 a month birth control pills into a $200 monthly expense, because it will now require a full bout of claims processing overhead.  I mean... Look at what a Fantastic Job they did with Social Security!!!!!11!!  Young people are really set to benefit from that.


Well, you ARE a retard. And a liar. And ignorant of history. And determined not to be accurate. But other than that, you've got a good thing going.
 
2013-07-20 12:24:29 AM

Full Metal Retard: How terrible that someone treated you like an adult, and allowed you to make your own decisions.  But I'm sure ObamaCare inserting another middle man will bring down costs.  And mandating coverage for minor benefits will certainly reduce costs - like turning $10 a month birth control pills into a $200 monthly expense, because it will now require a full bout of claims processing overhead.  I mean... Look at what a Fantastic Job they did with Social Security!!!!!11!!  Young people are really set to benefit from that.


Well... At least your handle is accurate, bless your heart.
 
2013-07-20 12:32:13 AM
Considering that employer based health insurance (not healthcare, which should never be used interchangeably) is about the single dumbest concept to be introduced to capitalist markets (just edging out triple loan swaps) since the company town, then even if Obamacare came over to your house, shot your dog, made your spouse gay, forced your daughter to have an abortion, took all your guns right down to the plastic pistol held by your kid's army men, gave Chris Mathews a bull horn, tuned the television to PBS and broke the remote control, and gave an immigrant with darker skin than your own not just any job, but your job, it would still be a step in the right direction.
 
2013-07-20 12:45:47 AM

HotIgneous Intruder: I don't have a doctor, so I guess I WIN, don't I?


Nope, you don't. Because now if you're young and healthy (or old and healthy) you now have to buy shiat you don't need! Yay for big insurance sleeping with politicians.
 
2013-07-20 01:09:33 AM
Obama won't even enforce his own signature legislation.

Must be a ringer.
 
2013-07-20 01:24:23 AM

alaric3: My doctor died. While some people are of the opinion that doctors are like barbers and you choose the one with the worst haircut I can't abide a doctor who is in a state of decay. I'm not keeping my doctor.


You're not keeping your doctor? What are you, prejudiced against dead people?
 
2013-07-20 01:56:44 AM

Thrag: So, an employer who  offers health benefits, who before the ACA could just drop the benefits at any time with zero cost to themselves, will now have an incentive to drop health benefits because now instead of it costing them nothing, it will cost them something?


because employers can go.. "hmmm..  should I pay 3000 per employee or 750, and the employees can just sign up for the govt plan"
 
2013-07-20 02:05:14 AM

ghare: Full Metal Retard: supayoda: Voiceofreason01: and buried WAY at the bottom of the article it notes that "Obamacare" does not in any way effect who your doctor is as that's decided by you and your insurance company.

And we're done here. It's basically the same situation it's always been. "Obamacare" is merely a new way to buy the same motherfarkin' crap for-profit insurance we've been boned with for decades. If your insurance company changes (just like it very well could have before Obamacare) then you're going to go with the in-network doctors for the new insurance (just like before Obamacare).

...


How terrible that someone treated you like an adult, and allowed you to make your own decisions.  But I'm sure ObamaCare inserting another middle man will bring down costs.  And mandating coverage for minor benefits will certainly reduce costs - like turning $10 a month birth control pills into a $200 monthly expense, because it will now require a full bout of claims processing overhead.  I mean... Look at what a Fantastic Job they did with Social Security!!!!!11!!  Young people are really set to benefit from that.

Well, you ARE a retard. And a liar. And ignorant of history. And determined not to be accurate. But other than that, you've got a good thing going.


When you need to throw insults, instead of responding to the content of an argument: It's just admitting the other guy is right.  We both know you're wrong, or you would have something to say.   So thanks for showing everyone how ignorant and lazy you are.

Some of the actuaries on ObamaCare are already writing that it is the greatest inter generational transfer of wealth in history: from young to old.  You folks just out of school for a few years will be pitching in an extra ... maybe $400 a month to help older people with their health care costs.  They are more politically organized, and vote in higher percentages - so they will always kick your ass when the Government is involved.  The fact that you're not smart enough to see that is just sad.


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2013-07-20 02:07:56 AM

Thrag: So, an employer who  offers health benefits, who before the ACA could just drop the benefits at any time with zero cost to themselves, will now have an incentive to drop health benefits because now instead of it costing them nothing, it will cost them something?


And, instead of costing 3000 per employee.. it is now 4000.  because the insurance now needs to pay for people that are putting into the pool.

so.. 4000.. vs 750.   tough call
 
2013-07-20 02:11:10 AM

Terrible Old Man: HotIgneous Intruder: I don't have a doctor, so I guess I WIN, don't I?

Nope, you don't. Because now if you're young and healthy (or old and healthy) you now have to buy shiat you don't need! Yay for big insurance sleeping with politicians.



What choice did they have?  They had a gun to their head, and chose the easy way out when given the "hard way or easy way" choice.

Businesses throwing money at politicians is seldom the first choice of the business.  But it is always the first choice of the politicians.  And if you ever get to know anybody in politics; you'll find out that lots of regulations are specifically written to be as destructive to the economy as possible.  So the businesses are forced to organize a trade group, and hire lobbyists, and the lobbyists will basically be a money laundering mechanism.

It's not that different from the mafia, but their suits are better.
 
2013-07-20 02:34:07 AM
Doctors and businesses that choose to flout the law had every option to not go about making it a PITA for ordinary people.

To preempt the Randists, HDHP just makes the problems worse by lowering the quality of care.
 
2013-07-20 02:42:51 AM

Nutsac_Jim: Thrag: So, an employer who  offers health benefits, who before the ACA could just drop the benefits at any time with zero cost to themselves, will now have an incentive to drop health benefits because now instead of it costing them nothing, it will cost them something?

because employers can go.. "hmmm..  should I pay 3000 per employee or 750, and the employees can just sign up for the govt plan"


Which means that the law should not have had the limit in the first place and to have more stringent stuff that makes it a living nightmare for employers that want to evade it or to avoid hiring because of it (or something indirect).
 
2013-07-20 02:57:30 AM
as long as insurance company's are involved you may not be able to chose or keep your doctor
hell you may not be able to chose or keep your insurance company either
been that way as long as I can remember
and I'm getting to be really old

better late than never?
 
2013-07-20 03:39:45 AM
2009 "Under Farkcare, you may be able to boost your current trolling." 2013 "Under Farkcare, you will be able to boost your current trolling"

/oh
//f*cking
///bligatory
 
2013-07-20 08:57:44 AM
Gee, you mean if your doctor does not accept your insurance or your insurance your doctor, you will have to find another or pay cash.

This is the same as before with a major difference...now people will have insurance so they can afford a doctor.

If this is a problem, then you are arguing for single payer, which is why Republicans invented the entire concept of "Obama"Care to avoid.
 
2013-07-20 10:02:25 AM
Every since HMOs came into vogue in the 1980s, I haven't been able to choose my own doctor for decades.  Now with no HMO, my insurance company strongly drives me towards in-network doctors via financial penalties for going out of network.

So what's this "doctor choice" thing everyone is always going on about?
 
2013-07-20 11:51:24 AM

itsaidwhat: Aarontology: I am unable to see my old doctor thanks to Obamacare.

Some of the anti-fraud provisions in it were responsible for finding out he'd scammed Medicare for over $750,000 by billing them for patients that didn't exist or procedures he didn't perform.

Well that more than makes up for the quality ethical doctors that will just quit rather than deal with ObamaCare.


Cause when I pick a doctor, I make sure he's a quitter.
 
2013-07-20 12:50:10 PM

Full Metal Retard: Some of the actuaries on ObamaCare are already writing that it is the greatest inter generational transfer of wealth in history: from young to old.


Have they never heard of Medicare?  At least with this, the young get a few breadcrumbs of benefit for what they're paying.

sethstorm: Doctors and businesses that choose to flout the law had every option to not go about making it a PITA for ordinary people.

To preempt the Randists, HDHP just makes the problems worse by lowering the quality of care.


I think Randists are farking morans, but I would LOVE to have a legit HDHP option.  If this were the norm, costs would be drastically reduced for everyone, and care would be about the same.
 
2013-07-20 08:45:53 PM

BMFPitt: I think Randists are farking morans, but I would LOVE to have a legit HDHP option. If this were the norm, costs would be drastically reduced for everyone, and care would be about the same.


Legit and HDHP do not belong together due to the way of HDHP working to reduce quality in the name of "cost-saving/efficiency".


TheMysteriousStranger: Gee, you mean if your doctor does not accept your insurance or your insurance your doctor, you will have to find another or pay cash.


Or pressure your state/etc. to make it a PITA to not accept it - and to vigorously enforce it.
 
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