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(The Weekly Standard)   2009 "Under Obamacare, you will be able to keep your current doctor." 2013 "Under Obamacare, you may be able to keep your current doctor"   (weeklystandard.com) divider line 224
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2013-07-19 12:10:53 PM
My doctor died. While some people are of the opinion that doctors are like barbers and you choose the one with the worst haircut I can't abide a doctor who is in a state of decay. I'm not keeping my doctor.
 
2013-07-19 12:12:27 PM
I am unable to see my old doctor thanks to Obamacare.

Some of the anti-fraud provisions in it were responsible for finding out he'd scammed Medicare for over $750,000 by billing them for patients that didn't exist or procedures he didn't perform.
 
2013-07-19 12:33:00 PM
and buried WAY at the bottom of the article it notes that "Obamacare" does not in any way effect who your doctor is as that's decided by you and your insurance company.
 
2013-07-19 12:57:58 PM
My doctor likes Obamacare and will keep me on as a patient. So neener neener neener. He's not taking new patients though so sucks to be you.
 
2013-07-19 12:58:05 PM

Aarontology: I am unable to see my old doctor thanks to Obamacare.

Some of the anti-fraud provisions in it were responsible for finding out he'd scammed Medicare for over $750,000 by billing them for patients that didn't exist or procedures he didn't perform.


My idiot-brother-in-law and his other OT friends hate Obamacare and their discussions about how much money it's going to lose them basically come down to this. The down side of reforming the health care system in order to lower costs is that people who have been unfairly gaming the system for profit won't be able to any more.

I feel soiled after listening to them talk.
 
2013-07-19 01:39:33 PM

MrBallou: My idiot-brother-in-law and his other OT friends hate Obamacare and their discussions about how much money it's going to lose them basically come down to this. The down side of reforming the health care system in order to lower costs is that people who have been unfairly gaming the system for profit won't be able to any more.

I feel soiled after listening to them talk.


You should have given them a hand.

Aarontology: Some of the anti-fraud provisions in it were responsible for finding out he'd scammed Medicare for over $750,000 by billing them for patients that didn't exist or procedures he didn't perform.


The company I worked for before I switched to the one I do now was actually shut down by Medicare for scamming over four million on false dialysis transport billing in Nashville. They would continue to bill for patients who had died or were no longer being transported. The owners LITERALLY spent it on hookers and blow.
 
2013-07-19 01:41:18 PM
Um, if you change insurance, since the beginning of time, for any reason, you run the risk that your doctor is not in the new plan. Obamacare has nothing to do with that.

If you keep your insurance, your odds are better, but they could most certainly change their contracts with the doctors and you might be faced with having to find another doctor. Or, they retire, die, move, or get arrested. Obamacare has nothing to do with this, either.

Obama was clearly referring to the fact that nothing in the law with force you to change your current insurance or doctor.

/this is getting old, and I know it's only starting - the deliberate misinformation
 
2013-07-19 01:51:05 PM
Obamacare knocked over my trash cans and made a mess while I slept last night. It took me 120 minutes clean it all up this morning because Obamacare lead a bunch of strays cats over to it so they could tear apart all the bags looking for the scraps

/obama, wtf is this guy's problem
 
2013-07-19 01:51:24 PM

SecretAgentWoman: /this is getting old, and I know it's only starting - the deliberate misinformation


Which brings up the point: if Republican ideas are so good, why do they always have to lie to make them look good. Always.
 
2013-07-19 01:51:50 PM
I don't have a doctor, so I guess I WIN, don't I?
 
2013-07-19 01:52:23 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-07-19 01:53:18 PM
Under almost any company health plan, there is a chance you can't keep your own doctor.
So?
It's not like "your doctor" does a damn thing anyhow.  If you have a problem, you see a specialist.
 
2013-07-19 01:53:28 PM
First the IBD article in the Politics tab, now this one on the main page.  Mods, stop the anti-healthcare wharrgarbl.  It's too much.
 
2013-07-19 01:53:28 PM
My doctor stopped accepting insurance and went to a monthly payment scheme, so while I may keep him I don't think I will.
 
2013-07-19 01:54:17 PM
My 66 year old doctor retired last year. I have to choose a new doctor.

Thanks, Obama.
 
2013-07-19 01:54:29 PM

Aarontology: I am unable to see my old doctor thanks to Obamacare.

Some of the anti-fraud provisions in it were responsible for finding out he'd scammed Medicare for over $750,000 by billing them for patients that didn't exist or procedures he didn't perform.


Well that more than makes up for the quality ethical doctors that will just quit rather than deal with ObamaCare.
 
2013-07-19 01:55:07 PM
An Obamacare ate my baby!
 
2013-07-19 01:55:20 PM
Obviously it depends on whether or not your doctor chooses to be part of your network. This is only a shock for the dimwitted. For the rest of us, who have functioning brain cells, this the daily anti-Obama fake "scandal," tune in tomorrow for a new one!
 
2013-07-19 01:56:02 PM

Begoggle: Under almost any company health plan, there is a chance you can't keep your own doctor.
So?
It's not like "your doctor" does a damn thing anyhow.  If you have a problem, you see a specialist.


THREAD OVER!
 
2013-07-19 01:56:56 PM
My insurance changed and I could no longer see my old doctor.


IN 2007.

Thanks Obama
 
2013-07-19 01:57:01 PM
Mine looks like a young Christopher Reeves + mullet.  I'm keeping him.
 
2013-07-19 01:57:12 PM
2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-07-19 01:57:24 PM
What doctor? I go to urgent care since I don't have any chronic illnesses.
 
2013-07-19 01:57:38 PM
I moved away and had to find a new Doctor 1200 miles from home.

Thanks Obama
 
2013-07-19 01:57:43 PM

Voiceofreason01: and buried WAY at the bottom of the article it notes that "Obamacare" does not in any way effect who your doctor is as that's decided by you and your insurance company.


Exactly.

This is just like if you change insurance providers under normal circumstances - changing job, employeer picks a different provider, etc.

Or even if your current doctor stops taking a certain provider.

I had to change my primary care physician a few years back, because he stopped taking my provider - apparently, he'd had one too many billing arguments with them, and decided they weren't worth the hassle.

But since they were the insurance company that make my 40k+ back surgury cost me about 1k out of pocket, I wanted to stay with them.  Especially since I've never had a problem with them; they approved an MRI inside 24 hours, rather than the days or weeks (or longer) that I've heard from other providers.
 
2013-07-19 01:58:30 PM
Wow. This thread seems to have been jacked by a surprising number of probamacare people. Could just be that all the chumps working to pay taxes to fund ObamaCare are actually at work.

/on vacation
 
2013-07-19 02:00:43 PM
ahhh yes, the nuance of changing definitions to fit your agenda
 
2013-07-19 02:00:48 PM
I was blinded by acid. Now I can't see my doctor.

Thanks Obama.
 
2013-07-19 02:00:57 PM
Duh. If you change insurance providers, you might have to change doctors if he's not in that network. Wow, that's a radical change from the way it's been ever since managed care got popular in the '80s.
 
2013-07-19 02:01:22 PM
On the other hand, people who don't have a doctor, by virtue of being strangers to any medical care other than an ER, won't have a problem with this
 
2013-07-19 02:01:42 PM
My current doctor.

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-07-19 02:02:44 PM
My insurance company said I couldn't keep my doctor anymore because she had the nerve to *GASP* let her patients have their blood work done there in the office instead of having to shlep all the way to a scary low rent LabCorp office to have it done.

Never enough seats in the waiting room at Labcorp, long lines out the door, and I have actually seen employees get in near physical fights there. It's like going to a third world country doctor's office.
 
2013-07-19 02:03:37 PM
I like how all the point with which they sold obamacare to the public are all turning out to be lies. Now if only people who give a crap.
 
2013-07-19 02:03:51 PM

itsaidwhat: Wow. This thread seems to have been jacked by a surprising number of probamacare people. Could just be that all the chumps working to pay taxes to fund ObamaCare are actually at work.

/on vacation


Or maybe most of us read it, and realized it's a heavily slanted article, full of sound and fury, but signifying nothing.


It really is a crap article, even by Weekly (sub)Standard's sub-standards.
 
2013-07-19 02:04:11 PM
My wife had to stop going to our family physician because she got pregnant. Thanks a lot, Obamacare
 
2013-07-19 02:04:25 PM
Dr's worth any weight are going to break up into pods and you are going to have to pay 3-6 k a year just for the right to say this is my Dr.

Obama care is going to mess up medical care big time
 
2013-07-19 02:04:33 PM
Obamacare put sugar in my car's gas tank, left a gallon of milk on the kitchen counter overnight and took out a full-page ad in the newspaper saying that I worship some guy named Stan.

THANKS 0BAMA
 
2013-07-19 02:04:42 PM
Who the fark sees doctors? That shiat is way too expensive. Buy some pills on the internet and get over it.
 
2013-07-19 02:05:07 PM
ObamaCare has the sexiest nurses and the waiting rooms don't smell of Republicans.
 
2013-07-19 02:05:12 PM

DubtodaIll: I like how all the point with which they sold obamacare to the public are all turning out to be lies. Now if only people who give a crap.


Sounds serious. Do tell......
 
2013-07-19 02:06:22 PM

impaler: SecretAgentWoman: /this is getting old, and I know it's only starting - the deliberate misinformation

Which brings up the point: if Republican ideas are so good, why do they always have to lie to make them look good. Always.


Because they lied about so many things that no one believes them if they ever said the truth.
 
2013-07-19 02:06:45 PM

Peter von Nostrand: My wife had to stop going to our family physician because she got pregnant. Thanks a lot, Obamacare


i.imgur.com
 
2013-07-19 02:08:45 PM
I am now less intelligent as a direct result of reading that article.  Crappy headline bait journalism for the Honey Boo Boo set.
 
2013-07-19 02:08:49 PM

Voiceofreason01: and buried WAY at the bottom of the article it notes that "Obamacare" does not in any way effect who your doctor is as that's decided by you and your insurance company.


Yeah, I don't remember what the source of the claim was that you'd have to switch doctors, but after it ended up being mandatory insurance, I thought it was a pretty incredible claim, since many of us with employer-provided insurance have had to switch GPs several times over the past decade or so because the insurance company says, "oh, hey, the GP you went to for your last visit isn't in your group any more," find a new doctor in the group, then 6 months lather, rinse, and repeat.
 
2013-07-19 02:09:30 PM
Will I be able to play the piano under Obamacare?
 
2013-07-19 02:09:30 PM

Voiceofreason01: and buried WAY at the bottom of the article it notes that "Obamacare" does not in any way effect who your doctor is as that's decided by you and your insurance company.


So private party insurance decreases choice in the marketplace?

Duh!!!
 
2013-07-19 02:09:47 PM

Peter von Nostrand: DubtodaIll: I like how all the point with which they sold obamacare to the public are all turning out to be lies. Now if only people who give a crap.

Sounds serious. Do tell......


It's endemic of our entire political system. Everything that's sold to the public is never the whole truth. It's unacceptable.
 
2013-07-19 02:10:44 PM

alaric3: My doctor died. While some people are of the opinion that doctors are like barbers and you choose the one with the worst haircut I can't abide a doctor who is in a state of decay. I'm not keeping my doctor.


They're pretty handy if you can manage to swipe their prescription pad before their relatives fly in for the funeral, though.
 
2013-07-19 02:11:20 PM

henryhill: Will I be able to play the piano under Obamacare?


Of course!
 
2013-07-19 02:11:34 PM
Every time my company changes insurance providers, I am forced to pick a new in-plan doctor.
 
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