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(Slate)   How I Lost $1,350 by Falling for the Same Internet Scam Twice in One Week   (slate.com) divider line 128
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2013-07-19 01:39:21 PM  
Slate. Where the morons gather.

Also:
They were offered by someone who claimed to be an airline pilot named Capt. Chris Hansen.

Well, there's your problem.
 
2013-07-19 01:57:52 PM  
Stupidity this severe could be contagious. We should quarantine him.
 
2013-07-19 02:09:05 PM  

The Goddamn Batman: Slate. Where the morons gather.

Also:
They were offered by someone who claimed to be an airline pilot named Capt. Chris Hansen.

Well, there's your problem.


tymoon.eu
 
2013-07-19 02:09:46 PM  
Then you sir, are a dumb ass...
 
2013-07-19 02:10:35 PM  
Once I can understand. Sort of. But twice?

Are frequent flyer miles even transferable?
 
2013-07-19 02:11:12 PM  
Airline miles are non-transferable, dumbass. This why they say you can't cheat an honest man.

Never give a sucker an even break, and never smarten up a chump.
 
2013-07-19 02:11:16 PM  
[Dumbass] tag is on vacation too?
 
2013-07-19 02:11:44 PM  
FAKE.
 
2013-07-19 02:11:53 PM  
Was it the Rastafarian banana guy again?
 
2013-07-19 02:12:03 PM  
Caveat Emptor.
 
2013-07-19 02:12:54 PM  
"I'm out of a job with no potential to make more money, so I'll just fly business class to Italy for a two-month break!!!!"  With logic like that, that guy's lucky he's not living in a cardboard box.
 
2013-07-19 02:13:18 PM  
If I were a scammer, I think I'd steer clear of smartass names for myself, so that I wouldn't give anyone cause to doubt me.

Apparently, that doesn't actually matter too much.
 
2013-07-19 02:14:08 PM  
Come on guys, not everyone comes out of the womb world wise and understand the intricacies of airline miles and how to spot fraud.  We all can't be farkers after all.
 
2013-07-19 02:15:28 PM  
How I lost three minutes I'll never get back.

And see no reason for the story's purpose except as a wring exercise for a class.
 
2013-07-19 02:17:27 PM  

The Third Man: "I'm out of a job with no potential to make more money, so I'll just fly business class to Italy for a two-month break!!!!"  With logic like that, that guy's lucky he's not living in a cardboard box.


I imagine this is the type of person most in favor of cancelling student loan debt.
 
2013-07-19 02:18:39 PM  
Obligatory
geoffishere.com
 
2013-07-19 02:19:10 PM  
I'm sure this does happen all the time, but the author's particular story sounds a little fabricated in an attempt to make a good story. Sounds like he pieced together a few experiences of others and put them together.
 
2013-07-19 02:20:11 PM  
I always have mixed feelings about this sort of thing.  Part of me knows that the scammers are scum.  Part of me thinks the victims are so god damn farking stupid that I can't really have sympathy for them.

These idiots are the reason I get so many "Rachel from Cardmember services" scam phone calls.  We should really just start shooting both the scammers and the victims.  If you're dumb enough to fall for this crap, maybe killing you might scare some sense into some other morons.
 
2013-07-19 02:21:56 PM  
When buying or selling things online I now use the rule If i can't meet you in person to complete the transaction I look somewhere else.
 
2013-07-19 02:21:57 PM  
That's a WHOLE lotta words for the writer to say "I'm an idiot."  This guy sent untracable payments to people he found on the internet selling black market frequent flier miles.  Basically, an idiot tried to cheat the system, and he got conned by another cheater.
 
2013-07-19 02:22:44 PM  
cardboard box???
he said WITH his parents not where
with a kid like that who knows what box his parents are in
 
2013-07-19 02:23:43 PM  

mbillips: Airline miles are non-transferable, dumbass. This why they say you can't cheat an honest man.


Airline miles are non-transferable because the airlines are trying to cheat honest men. It's a way for the airline to facilitate a transfer of value from the businesses buying tickets to the travelers actually using the tickets -- essentially it's a kickback system. And it only works because the miles are non-transferable; if they could be transferred your employer would demand them back.
 
2013-07-19 02:24:03 PM  
I'm reminded of the words of the great Mike Skinner: "Neighbor, you can't con an honest Jon"
 
2013-07-19 02:24:59 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: If you're dumb enough to fall for this crap, maybe killing you might scare some sense into some other morons.


It won't work. If they can't tell it's a scam in the first place they won't be able to protect themselves from the threat of death any more than they can protect themselves from the scam.
 
2013-07-19 02:25:05 PM  
So? I'm confused. Is he boasting or complaining that he's an idiot. It's difficult to tell.
 
2013-07-19 02:25:13 PM  
If the author gets an immediate vasectomy, I will pay for a round-the-world cruise.

He can trust me, I am the captain of a ship!
 
2013-07-19 02:26:02 PM  
Story needs more cello
 
2013-07-19 02:27:59 PM  

Carth: When buying or selling things online I now use the rule If i can't meet you in person to complete the transaction I look somewhere else.


eBay is gonna go tits up without you.
 
2013-07-19 02:28:08 PM  
I am amazed that someone who can write halfway decently is balls-out stupid enough to fall for something so utterly obvious.

IF. IT. SOUNDS. TOO. GOOD. TO. BE. TRUE. IT. PROBABLY. IS.
 
2013-07-19 02:28:17 PM  
People are dumb.

This week a spam message got through our filters and hit a couple users' mailboxes. The text of the message said "Your 2 inbounded messages are being quarantined while we await your credentials. Please to click this linkage and enter them so the messages may be sent."  One user clicked the link and when presented with a strange web page asking for her username, password, and other info, she entered it all in. Her email got hijacked and our mail server started spamming thousands of people. We caught it pretty quickly.

Clicking a link by accident? Ok, it happens. Clicking a link in such a poorly worded email from someone you don't know and then filling out all your info on a web site it takes you to? You no longer have the right to use email. I deleted her mailbox and account and sent a notice to her supervisor that she was no longer allowed on the network.
 
2013-07-19 02:28:32 PM  

Carth: When buying or selling things online I now use the rule If i can't meet you in person to complete the transaction I look somewhere else.


I sold a piece of gear on Craigslist on the honour system. TiVo gizmo that wouldn't get service in Canada so I put it on CL in Seattle. Sent it off and asked for $10 plus postage.

Two weeks later I got three Abe Lincolns and a Washington in the mail.

/restoring your faith in human goodness
 
2013-07-19 02:28:41 PM  

The Third Man: "I'm out of a job with no potential to make more money, so I'll just fly business class to Italy for a two-month break!!!!"  With logic like that, that guy's lucky he's not living in a cardboard box.


www.slate.com

He just may be.
 
2013-07-19 02:29:06 PM  

Erebus1954: Once I can understand. Sort of. But twice?

Are frequent flyer miles even transferable?


With the details he explained, I cannot even understand once.
 
2013-07-19 02:29:15 PM  
I sent the airline an articulate, sympathetic, and supplicatory email, and they responded by upgrading me for the return flight. I ended up flying business class after allwas upgraded to First Class Dumb Ass.

FTFY.

This reminds me of an ex who decided it was a good idea to jump into a stranger's van at midnight and stay with with them at their house while traveling in Europe. The ex left before anyone woke up. He/she was REALLY lucky not to have been murdered in his/her sleep.
 
2013-07-19 02:29:44 PM  
mbillips

This why they say you can't cheat an honest man.

I never understood that line.

Honest naive people get conned out of fortunes all the time.

/you are far too trusting
 
2013-07-19 02:30:05 PM  

Snarfangel: If the author gets an immediate vasectomy, I will pay for a round-the-world cruise.

He can trust me, I am the captain of a ship the snip!


Go captain go!
 
2013-07-19 02:30:22 PM  

Bill_Wick's_Friend: Carth: When buying or selling things online I now use the rule If i can't meet you in person to complete the transaction I look somewhere else.

I sold a piece of gear on Craigslist on the honour system. TiVo gizmo that wouldn't get service in Canada so I put it on CL in Seattle. Sent it off and asked for $10 plus postage.

Two weeks later I got three Abe Lincolns and a Washington in the mail.

/restoring your faith in human goodness


28 cents isn't much of a return.
 
2013-07-19 02:30:45 PM  
5cities6women.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-07-19 02:31:45 PM  
Were tits involved? I bet it was tits.
 
2013-07-19 02:31:59 PM  

Erebus1954: Once I can understand. Sort of. But twice?

Are frequent flyer miles even transferable?


Nope, not even slightly.
 
2013-07-19 02:32:01 PM  
Next Greenlight:

How I got Scammed On Fark, Twice In The Same Day,  Into Reading Another Useless Slate Article.
 
2013-07-19 02:32:22 PM  

KrispyKritter: Carth: When buying or selling things online I now use the rule If i can't meet you in person to complete the transaction I look somewhere else.

eBay is gonna go tits up without you.


I was surprised to find out people still use ebay  I used it about 10 years ago but even then it was getting overrun by scammers and fake bidders. Apparently it is still fairly popular for used clothes.

For anything electronic or valuable it seems dumb to buy or sell on ebay instead of craigslist.
 
2013-07-19 02:33:09 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: I always have mixed feelings about this sort of thing.  Part of me knows that the scammers are scum.  Part of me thinks the victims are so god damn farking stupid that I can't really have sympathy for them.

These idiots are the reason I get so many "Rachel from Cardmember services" scam phone calls.  We should really just start shooting both the scammers and the victims.  If you're dumb enough to fall for this crap, maybe killing you might scare some sense into some other morons.


I work full time doing IT work and pick up some side work for extra cash when I can. One guy I do side work for, and is a lawyer, called one day because he had a virus. As we worked through what happened it turned out he got hijacked with the "you have a virus, click here and pay $90 for removal software" message. Naturally he paid and for all he knew it was gone and thought it was money well spent. Then it came back a few weeks later. So what does he do? He pays again. But it didn't go away and that's when (and the only reason why) he called me. And i charged him to make it go away.

The reason I brought up he's a lawyer is because I figured a guy this gullible had to be an idiot in court. He handles medical malpractice and workplace injuries so he's probably not that far off from the scammers to begin with. But a friend of mine mentioned his name at a local bar that a bunch of lawyers go to and they all started talking about what a phenomenal trial lawyer he is. They went on and on about how great he is.

I just don't understand this guy. I swear he's an idiot, then everyone else says he's the greatest thing in court since the gavel. You'd think the ability to know BS would be required to BS in court.

But at least he was honest on what he did and freely admitted he got the infection while surfing pr0n. Because of that I gave him some sites to go to that he doesn't have to worry about getting an infection at. including foobies.
 
2013-07-19 02:35:42 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: I always have mixed feelings about this sort of thing.  Part of me knows that the scammers are scum.  Part of me thinks the victims are so god damn farking stupid that I can't really have sympathy for them.


Most people who get scammed are victims of their own greed. They think they're pulling one over on "the system" or on the person they're dealing with, and they end up getting scammed because their greed blinds them. They think they're keeping their "eyes on the prize" (bad advice, by the way) when "the prize" is actually a distraction, and the scammer is an illusionist that makes your money disappear while you're looking at the shiny thing.

Really, if you don't have an amazing bullshiat detector, then you shouldn't be trying to broker deals on the Internet or through mail-order. You don't have the tools to handle it properly. This is why Craigslist is a den of scammers; Way too many greedy people who think they're getting the better of someone else, and too many smart scammers who realize that greedy people are terribly easy to fleece, because they're so focused on beating the system and profiting from it.
 
2013-07-19 02:35:49 PM  
Dishonest people are often the easiest people to scam. This guy was basically trying to scam the airline and was taken himself. If he had done a Google search for buying frequent flyer miles, he would have found that the first non-sponsored link led to a page that explicitly explained that miles are non transferable. But I'm pretty sure in hios search to find miles he has seen this warning several times and probably several of his friends and family probably told him the same thing, but he was probably thinking "Hey, how will they know if I bought the mile?" and thought he would be able to get away with it. Well not only did he not get away with it, he got scammed.
 
2013-07-19 02:36:11 PM  

Crewmannumber6: Were tits involved? I bet it was tits.


I was hoping this was the internet variation warning about the women that rob you in the Wal-mart parking lot

/took my wallet oMonday, Wednesday and hopefully , next tuesday
 
2013-07-19 02:36:13 PM  
Craigslist ad?
 
2013-07-19 02:36:57 PM  
Opps  forgot nanny
 
2013-07-19 02:37:07 PM  
tl;dr - life's too precious to spend that much time reading about a dumbass.  Off to the politics tab.
 
2013-07-19 02:37:20 PM  

Lando Lincoln: Stupidity this severe could be contagious. We should quarantine him.


In coach. On a non-stop flight. FOREVER.

ZeroCorpse: Most people who get scammed are victims of their own greed. They think they're pulling one over on "the system" or on the person they're dealing with, and they end up getting scammed because their greed blinds them. They think they're keeping their "eyes on the prize" (bad advice, by the way) when "the prize" is actually a distraction, and the scammer is an illusionist that makes your money disappear while you're looking at the shiny thing.


This, honestly. The old saw about being unable to con an honest man really does apply here.
 
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