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(Investors Business Daily)   Obama complains that Republicans voted nearly 40 times to dismantle ObamaCare, without noting that he signed three of those bills into law   (news.investors.com) divider line 124
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2013-07-19 08:24:35 AM  
Was that headline supposed to male sense?
 
2013-07-19 08:26:58 AM  
Stephen Hawking would be outraged about this if the socialist medical system hadn't killed him.
 
2013-07-19 08:30:25 AM  

SilentStrider: male sense


Is that like mansplaining?
 
2013-07-19 08:54:31 AM  

kronicfeld: SilentStrider: male sense

Is that like mansplaining?


sure.


/i swear I typed *MAKE*  not *MALE*
 
2013-07-19 09:11:01 AM  

Dinki: Stephen Hawking would be outraged about this if the socialist medical system hadn't killed him.


he looks pretty good for a dead guy.
 
2013-07-19 09:46:54 AM  
img.washingtonpost.com
 
2013-07-19 10:54:03 AM  
This entire article is basically just saying "the law isn't perfect". No kidding. No law is.
 
2013-07-19 10:55:32 AM  

SilentStrider: Was that headline supposed to male sense?


Seriously, what is the
 
2013-07-19 11:00:26 AM  

DamnYankees: This entire article is basically just saying "the law isn't perfect". No kidding. No law is.


The way I've seen it, "it doesn't solve all problems, so it's crap" is the usual mentality.  Not "it doesn't solve all problems, but it's an improvement."
 
2013-07-19 11:01:14 AM  

DamnYankees: This entire article is basically just saying "the law isn't perfect". No kidding. No law is.


What?!  It could be if they would simply form a committee to commission an "on the ground" study of every facet and potential effect of a proposed law before the vote on it!
 
2013-07-19 11:03:41 AM  

RedPhoenix122: DamnYankees: This entire article is basically just saying "the law isn't perfect". No kidding. No law is.

The way I've seen it, "it doesn't solve all problems, so it's crap" is the usual mentality.  Not "it doesn't solve all problems, but it's an improvement."


It's more like "It solves most of the problems, was based on a design we wanted 20 years ago, but was enacted by Democrats so WHARRRGGGAARRRRBBBBLLLL."
 
2013-07-19 11:03:55 AM  
By John Merline, INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY

24.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-07-19 11:05:35 AM  

RedPhoenix122: DamnYankees: This entire article is basically just saying "the law isn't perfect". No kidding. No law is.

The way I've seen it, "it doesn't solve all problems, so it's crap" is the usual mentality.  Not "it doesn't solve all problems, but it's an improvement."


The entire Republican ideology is based on the premise that government doesn't work, so they have to break the government in order to prove their point.
 
2013-07-19 11:06:31 AM  

bdub77: RedPhoenix122: DamnYankees: This entire article is basically just saying "the law isn't perfect". No kidding. No law is.

The way I've seen it, "it doesn't solve all problems, so it's crap" is the usual mentality.  Not "it doesn't solve all problems, but it's an improvement."

It's more like "It solves most of the problems, was based on a design we wanted 20 years ago, but was enacted by Democrats so WHARRRGGGAARRRRBBBBLLLL."


I was speaking of the average person against it, not the average Republican lawmaker.
 
2013-07-19 11:07:48 AM  

RedPhoenix122: bdub77: RedPhoenix122: DamnYankees: This entire article is basically just saying "the law isn't perfect". No kidding. No law is.

The way I've seen it, "it doesn't solve all problems, so it's crap" is the usual mentality.  Not "it doesn't solve all problems, but it's an improvement."

It's more like "It solves most of the problems, was based on a design we wanted 20 years ago, but was enacted by Democrats so WHARRRGGGAARRRRBBBBLLLL."

I was speaking of the average person against it, not the average Republican lawmaker.


The average person against it is strongly pro-potato.
 
2013-07-19 11:18:29 AM  
Obamacare is a mess.

We should dismantle it and instead have universal single payer.
 
2013-07-19 11:21:45 AM  

RedPhoenix122: bdub77: RedPhoenix122: DamnYankees: This entire article is basically just saying "the law isn't perfect". No kidding. No law is.

The way I've seen it, "it doesn't solve all problems, so it's crap" is the usual mentality.  Not "it doesn't solve all problems, but it's an improvement."

It's more like "It solves most of the problems, was based on a design we wanted 20 years ago, but was enacted by Democrats so WHARRRGGGAARRRRBBBBLLLL."

I was speaking of the average person against it, not the average Republican lawmaker.


The average person against it watches Fox News, so bdub77 is absolutely correct.
 
2013-07-19 11:42:07 AM  
I can just hear the GOP 2016 candidate for Prez: "There are still sick people in America!!  And Americans die every day!!  0BAMMYCARE IS TEH FAILZ!!1!"
 
2013-07-19 11:53:30 AM  
Great. Just great. Apparently, IBD is the new American Thinker for FARK.

Seriously, every article from that site manages the achieve the impossible: it's actually MORE pants-on-head retarded than the LAST one.
 
2013-07-19 11:53:58 AM  
Investors Business Daily is the only paper willing to stand up to Obamacare. It is a great white beacon of light breaking through dark shadows, so bright that the dust motes glitter around the ringmaster Obama, who so sadly parades his twisted corruption to the public whilst surrounded by the Hollywood Elite.

Is there a news product greater than Investors Business Daily? Does any such paper have the depth of reporting, the mathematical precision with which it carves into the scope of a plan which will no doubt ruin the country? Is there any such paper willing to project, down to the penny, the cost of Obamacare over the next 326 years? Did you know over the next 300 years it will cost this country 4.3 trillion? That is a huge number. Take a billion and multiply it by 1000. Then multiply it by 4.3. Do you know what that means? Do you?

Universal healthcare has been such a universal failure in Europe, Canada, and Japan that the influx of immigrants from those countries is jolting the very fabric of our social system.  One can so easily draw parallels with the bankrupt Detroit. What happened before Detroit went bankrupt? Unions happened. That's right. Unions, pensions, and healthcare for all. Do you know how many people who live in Detroit have healthcare? IBD does: 98.3%. The final 1.7% are the GOP holdouts keeping our nation afloat.

Obamacare will bankrupt all businesses. How will companies like IBM or GE, symbols of America, survive with healthcare for its employees? What about Microsoft? Google? These businesses will sink into oblivion under the weight of Obama's Marxist Kenyan manipulation. Only Investors Business Daily is willing to stand up to the powerful interests behind this hystery. Only Investors Business Daily will stand tall as the great news organizations of our era crumble into dust.
 
2013-07-19 11:54:30 AM  
I hate Obamacare, but support all the individual provisions in it.
 
2013-07-19 11:56:30 AM  

ManateeGag: Dinki: Stephen Hawking would be outraged about this if the socialist medical system hadn't killed him.

he looks pretty good for a dead guy.


"People such as scientist Stephen Hawking wouldn't have a chance in the U.K., where the National Health Service would say the life of this brilliant man, because of his physical handicaps, is essentially worthless." [IBD, Atlanta J-C, Ezra Klein]
 
2013-07-19 11:57:17 AM  

bdub77: Investors Business Daily is the only paper willing to stand up to Obamacare. It is a great white beacon of light breaking through dark shadows, so bright that the dust motes glitter around the ringmaster Obama, who so sadly parades his twisted corruption to the public whilst surrounded by the Hollywood Elite.

Is there a news product greater than Investors Business Daily? Does any such paper have the depth of reporting, the mathematical precision with which it carves into the scope of a plan which will no doubt ruin the country? Is there any such paper willing to project, down to the penny, the cost of Obamacare over the next 326 years? Did you know over the next 300 years it will cost this country 4.3 trillion? That is a huge number. Take a billion and multiply it by 1000. Then multiply it by 4.3. Do you know what that means? Do you?

Universal healthcare has been such a universal failure in Europe, Canada, and Japan that the influx of immigrants from those countries is jolting the very fabric of our social system.  One can so easily draw parallels with the bankrupt Detroit. What happened before Detroit went bankrupt? Unions happened. That's right. Unions, pensions, and healthcare for all. Do you know how many people who live in Detroit have healthcare? IBD does: 98.3%. The final 1.7% are the GOP holdouts keeping our nation afloat.

Obamacare will bankrupt all businesses. How will companies like IBM or GE, symbols of America, survive with healthcare for its employees? What about Microsoft? Google? These businesses will sink into oblivion under the weight of Obama's Marxist Kenyan manipulation. Only Investors Business Daily is willing to stand up to the powerful interests behind this hystery. Only Investors Business Daily will stand tall as the great news organizations of our era crumble into dust.


Don't forget to buy gold!
 
2013-07-19 11:59:09 AM  
IBD should not exist as a "news" source.  They are pathetic.  At minimum they should not be allowed to comment on the issue of health care for the rest of eternity.

You may recall their article that said this:

"People such as scientist Stephen Hawking wouldn't have a chance in the U.K., where the National Health Service would say the life of this brilliant man, because of his physical handicaps, is essentially worthless." [IBD, Atlanta J-C, Ezra Klein]

What you many recall is there follow-up which was that it was because of drugs developed in the US that Hawking was still alive.  The French pharmaceutical company who developed Hawking's ALS drugs also had a press release.
 
2013-07-19 12:24:41 PM  
IBD is the Jennifer Rubin of "business" news
 
2013-07-19 12:34:26 PM  

Jackson Herring: IBD is the Jennifer Rubin of "business" news


I get more of Völkischer Beobachter vibe...
 
2013-07-19 12:40:01 PM  

ManateeGag: he looks pretty good for a dead guy.


Andrew Breitbart does his makeup.
 
2013-07-19 12:41:51 PM  

vernonFL: Obamacare is a mess.

We should dismantle it and instead have universal single payer.


Yes.
 
2013-07-19 12:42:52 PM  
IBD is the Jehovah's Witness of "business" news.
 
2013-07-19 12:43:24 PM  

Diogenes: By John Merline, INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY

[24.media.tumblr.com image 250x332]


John Merline makes his living by writing negative articles about Obamacare.

I think he attended the Jennifer Rubin School of Partisan Blogging and received a degree in Foxy News Gathering.
 
2013-07-19 12:44:46 PM  
Well, if Obamacare has been thrice repealed, then I guess it's no longer an issue.

Thanks, IBD.
 
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2013-07-19 12:45:47 PM  

DamnYankees: This entire article is basically just saying "the law isn't perfect". No kidding. No law is.


It was a compromise.  No one ever thought it was close to perfect, it's just the best that could be passed.
 
2013-07-19 12:46:27 PM  

RedPhoenix122: DamnYankees: This entire article is basically just saying "the law isn't perfect". No kidding. No law is.

The way I've seen it, "it doesn't solve all problems, so it's crap" is the usual mentality.  Not "it doesn't solve all problems, but it's an improvement."


The second amendment and stand your ground are perfect in everyway.
 
2013-07-19 12:46:33 PM  

vernonFL: Obamacare is a mess.

We should dismantle it and instead have universal single payer.


this
 
2013-07-19 12:47:56 PM  

vernonFL: Obamacare is a mess.

We should dismantle it and instead have universal single payer.


I think the republicans would cooperate on the dismantle part. We missed our window for single payer.
 
2013-07-19 12:50:38 PM  

bdub77: SilentStrider: Was that headline supposed to male sense?

Seriously, what is the


Can people not type properly on
 
2013-07-19 12:51:54 PM  

bhcompy: vernonFL: Obamacare is a mess.

We should dismantle it and instead have universal single payer.

Yes.


Can someone explain to me why this is repeated so many times when the formerly Republican-backed ACA gets brought up? It sounds easy enough, but do you think politicians will let us have such privileges?
 
2013-07-19 12:51:54 PM  

ManateeGag: Dinki: Stephen Hawking would be outraged about this if the socialist medical system hadn't killed him.

he looks pretty good for a dead guy.


"People such as scientist Stephen Hawking wouldn't have a chance in the U.K., where the National Health Service would say the life of this brilliant man, because of his physical handicaps, is essentially worthless." -Editorial from Investor's Business Daily, 7/31/2009
 
2013-07-19 12:54:53 PM  
IBD is the "veggie burger when I wanted steak" of business news.
 
2013-07-19 01:01:59 PM  

SilentStrider: Was that headline supposed to male sense?


You might catch some heat for this comment. I'll explain why: it's spelled "mail" not "male." It's a common mistake. Your question should read:

"Was that headline supposed to mail sense?"

And, yes, yes it was.
 
2013-07-19 01:02:36 PM  

Triple Oak: bhcompy: vernonFL: Obamacare is a mess.

We should dismantle it and instead have universal single payer.

Yes.

Can someone explain to me why this is repeated so many times when the formerly Republican-backed ACA gets brought up? It sounds easy enough, but do you think politicians will let us have such privileges?


Who cares who made it?  It's awful.  The solution we have now is worse for everyone except those who had nothing before.  The average person pays more, has less options(companies are doing away with many plans in order to manage their own costs better in the new healthcare law world), and still doesn't have any real protection against catastrophic shiat causing bankruptcy.  Absolutely no gain for the vast majority of Americans, only negatives.

Meanwhile, a small group of people get some added benefits, but the destitute, homeless, etc still are where they were before as they still end up going to ER and still have to deal with insurance, billing, etc which just ends up with the hospital writing it off and the government(local, state, federal, whatever) eating the dollars at higher expense(due to collections, high ER fees, and other things).

And in the end, there are still absolutely no cost controls in place to thwart the well above inflation rate growth of health care costs.

Don't give us a broken solution for the sake of fulfilling a campaign promise.  Give us a real solution.  Single payer or go back to where we were 5 years ago.  Please.
 
2013-07-19 01:04:00 PM  

DamnYankees: This entire article is basically just saying "the law isn't perfect". No kidding. No law is.


Murphy's Law is perfect. L.A. Law was damn near perfect. Poe's Law is perfection.
 
2013-07-19 01:05:33 PM  
IBD is the "I swear I thought that hooker was a woman" of business news.
 
2013-07-19 01:05:47 PM  
Is it working? I don't know, but something has happened...

First off: Insurance went up this year, but no more than before. A few bucks for the whole family, definitely NOT the 385% people are trying to claim.

Anyway, in the last month or so, since insurance flipped over at Open Enrollment:
My 'scripts that previously cost $3 to fill now cost me $4.17 to fill 3. One was as low as 72 cents.
I got a check in the mail for a co-pay that didn't go through on my medical debit card. $25 refund.
I got a free visit at the Chiropractor, and was told I had another 5 or 6 coming, due to a similar refund.

So, shooting for the low end, I got $300 in rebates, and saved $5 on 'scripts that I refill each month.

I'm sure it's all just a coincidence though.
 
2013-07-19 01:06:21 PM  
IBD is the "Ron Paul/Sonic the Hedgehog slash fiction" of business news
 
2013-07-19 01:06:34 PM  

See You Next Tuesday: WTF does that headline mean? I'm glad I'm not the only one who has no idea what you are trying to troll out there.


Obviously you're not male.
 
2013-07-19 01:06:51 PM  

Mike Chewbacca: ManateeGag: Dinki: Stephen Hawking would be outraged about this if the socialist medical system hadn't killed him.

he looks pretty good for a dead guy.

"People such as scientist Stephen Hawking wouldn't have a chance in the U.K., where the National Health Service would say the life of this brilliant man, because of his physical handicaps, is essentially worthless." -Editorial from Investor's Business Daily, 7/31/2009


I was gonna ask "Isn't Hawking British?", then I read your link... LOL
 
2013-07-19 01:07:47 PM  
Remember....you can still keep your plan.....unless your employer changed to a catastrophic plan to avoid the high taxes on the cadillac plan you used to have.
 
2013-07-19 01:08:47 PM  

Mike Chewbacca: ManateeGag: Dinki: Stephen Hawking would be outraged about this if the socialist medical system hadn't killed him.

he looks pretty good for a dead guy.

"People such as scientist Stephen Hawking wouldn't have a chance in the U.K., where the National Health Service would say the life of this brilliant man, because of his physical handicaps, is essentially worthless." -Editorial from Investor's Business Daily, 7/31/2009


Lol, that was one of my very favorite articles by way of just how wrong it was on nearly every point it tried to make.
 
2013-07-19 01:09:06 PM  
I see that at least IBD has appropriately been given the fail tag. Fark should save users some trouble and just automatically select "fail" or all IBD articles.
 
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