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(Boston.com)   Boston police sergeant who distributed the Tsarnaev-arrest photos is relieved of duty for not allowing state legislators to release the photos and take all the credit   (boston.com) divider line 36
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2013-07-19 10:05:26 AM
5 votes:
Meanwhile, at the Rolling Stone HQ....

"Our marketing plan is working perfectly! People now remember we still exist! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA"
2013-07-19 10:29:27 AM
4 votes:

Skarekrough: As a Bostonian I wanted to know every goddamned armed person on that scene had their gun drawn and was ready to pull the trigger if he was wired to blow or put another person in danger....not document it for "posterity."


Yeah, there were dozens of them, they had it covered. Have you considered photo evidence might be useful down the road?
2013-07-19 10:09:03 AM
4 votes:
I still don't understand how the Rolling Stone glamourizes him. Every time I see him, no matter how he looks, I immediately think "Farking asshole terrorist who is going away for a long long time".

But hey, I guess if this is the worst thing people are getting outraged about, maybe we live in a pretty good society with no real problems.

/Just kidding, of course we have real problems.
//We just like to ignore them all and focus on petty bullshiat instead.
///Thanks newsmedia!
2013-07-19 10:32:22 AM
3 votes:
I didn't really care about this whole outrage but a radio guy this morning made a good point, the other recent mass killers (Aurora theater, Sandy Hook) actually killed more people but they were never on the cover of Rolling Stone. Typically artists and actors are on the cover, a almost hero worship. Why does this kid get that treatment? Take away the headline and he looks like he's in an indie band. It just seems really odd that they'd choose to do so.

From what I hear though, the article is well written. I f*cking hate Rolling Stone so I'm holding my judgment until I read it myself.
2013-07-19 10:28:27 AM
3 votes:

MithrandirBooga: I still don't understand how the Rolling Stone glamourizes him.


Because American media has become so over-saturated with "analysts", pundits and other mostly useless talking heads that we're so accustomed to our "news" being presented in an opinion format that these sorts of things simply can no longer be viewed objectively by a large number of people.

There's nothing inherently wrong with the cover. It's a picture of Tsarnaev that he took and posted. It has been posted elsewhere. But because it's not tinted to make him look evil or doesn't have some negative slur plastered over it in huge font people are "outraged". If it doesn't make a bad man look bad, the "thinking" goes, it must mean it makes him look good because god knows it can't just be an objective image of a person as he appeared before we became aware of him.

The ridiculous poutrage over the Rolling Stone cover is an incredibly sad commentary on just how farked up most of this country has become when it comes to social and political news. There is no neutral position for facts in our media anymore. It really is the "with us or against us" mentality as applied to objective reporting and it's actually kind of scary.
2013-07-19 10:24:02 AM
3 votes:
A State Police spokesman said Thursday night that Murphy had been relieved of duty for one day and will be subject to an internal investigation. "His duty status will be determined at a hearing in the near future," said spokesman David Procopio.

"Relieved of duty" for one day, on a Friday. He was probably ordered to turn in his gun and badge and pick up a fishing rod and a case of beer.

More important question though... Remember, for several days, Tsarnev couldn't talk because he had been shot in the throat?
c.o0bc.comDon't most people who get shot in the throat bleed a bit from the throat?

Either he's a vampire, or they shot him after he was in custody.
2013-07-19 10:39:30 AM
2 votes:

Tat'dGreaser: I didn't really care about this whole outrage but a radio guy this morning made a good point, the other recent mass killers (Aurora theater, Sandy Hook) actually killed more people but they were never on the cover of Rolling Stone. Typically artists and actors are on the cover, a almost hero worship. Why does this kid get that treatment? Take away the headline and he looks like he's in an indie band. It just seems really odd that they'd choose to do so.

From what I hear though, the article is well written. I f*cking hate Rolling Stone so I'm holding my judgment until I read it myself.



I think that's bullshiat. That is your (probably influenced by what you've already read or heard from others) opinion.
like it or not that is what he looked like. the rest you've applied to it yourself.

seemeggierun.com
2013-07-19 10:17:01 AM
2 votes:
Public records.  How do they work?
2013-07-19 10:14:33 AM
2 votes:
So that's what it takes to get a cop fired.
2013-07-19 10:10:55 AM
2 votes:
In other words, it this shiat again:

i1214.photobucket.com

/DRINK!
2013-07-19 04:46:40 PM
1 votes:

Theaetetus: Sadly, all of the "we love the authority! Everything they say must be correct or else I'll wet myself!" types will miss the fact that no one in here is claiming Tsarnev was  never injured, and the dispute is merely about  when he received his throat wound.
But that distinction may be too complex for some.


You must enjoy anal play, since you keep pulling so much out of your ass.
2013-07-19 01:24:33 PM
1 votes:
"The real concern is that people will see these new photos and think, 'Oh, he must be guilty,' because why else would he be surrounded by dozens of police and emerging, bleeding, from a boat," said Cavallaro, a former assistant attorney general.


...and THAT ladies and gentlemen is why everybody hates lawyers.

I think people are stupid...but they are not THAT stupid.  For a case the jury never heard about, maybe they can be swayed by a thing like that...but for THIS case?  That's a stupid statement.
2013-07-19 11:10:50 AM
1 votes:

skozlaw: The ridiculous poutrage over the Rolling Stone cover is an incredibly sad commentary on just how farked up most of this country has become when it comes to social and political news. There is no neutral position for facts in our media anymore. It really is the "with us or against us" mentality as applied to objective reporting and it's actually kind of scary.


This.  The only people that partisans attack harder than their opponents are the neutral and objective folks.  It's basic animal instinct; lions don't chase the antelope furthest from them, they go for the ones they think they can catch.
2013-07-19 10:55:30 AM
1 votes:

Theaetetus: WTF Indeed: Theaetetus: Perhaps you both are confused about what I'm saying. I'm not saying he was entirely uninjured. I'm not saying he didn't have blood on his forehead. I'm not saying that his hand didn't have blood on it. I'm saying, specifically, that he doesn't appear to have a throat injury prior to being taken into custody. And that picture of yours certainly doesn't dispute that.

You're right! It all makes sense if you think about it! Obviously they shot him on the ground, hoping to eliminate is ability to speak so he couldn't tell the masses that this was a false flag operation by the CIA and Obama's PAC to force baseball parks around the country to play "Sweet Caroline" for two weeks.

Or someone twitched as he was climbing off the boat and shot him in the throat, and rather than face any questions over whether the cops should've had their fingers off their triggers, the official story became that he tried to commit suicide on the boat.

But hey, forget Occam's Razor or logic or what you see with your own eyes in that picture of him climbing off the boat. It's much better to simply accept that that's all a lie and what the authorities have said is completely true in every aspect. Because otherwise the terrorists win or something.


I'd trust authorities that have been known to lie once in awhile over a raving lunatic transparently scrambling to make up their own narratives.
2013-07-19 10:55:09 AM
1 votes:
I love the manufactured outrage. Rolling Stone took the best photo they could find and ran with it. Do you think they sat around saying "Hmmm, no, no. We need to have a worse photo that's more smudged so it looks like it was taken by a three-year-old using an old phone."

His outrage that anyone who has ever been in a uniform should be offended by the Rolling Stone cover is weird. I think this is pretend outrage over a non-issue.
2013-07-19 10:55:05 AM
1 votes:

mama2tnt: Drew, some Farker's trying to make sense and have a well-reasoned discussion over here!


But it's too early to start drinking

Tat'dGreaser: STOP RESISTING


Watch out, keep it up and you send Theaetetus into orgasm
2013-07-19 10:52:01 AM
1 votes:

Skarekrough: rubi_con_man: Aarontology: Maybe because that cop had a camera in his hands and not his gun

... meaning he was brave enough to be in the presence of an armed, desperate cop-killer without the ability to defend himself? Yeah, sounds like a really big pussy there...

Being "brave" is a small consolation when my taxes have to pay his medical records when he takes a bullet in the line of duty because he couldn't put down the Nikon.

As a Bostonian I wanted to know every goddamned armed person on that scene had their gun drawn and was ready to pull the trigger if he was wired to blow or put another person in danger....not document it for "posterity."  He's a farking cop....not Ansel Adams.  We pay him to do a job that does NOT involve taking pics.


Perhaps if you read the article:
"The pictures, taken by Sergeant Sean Murphy, a State Police tactical photographer"....

Sounds to me like he WAS doing his job.
2013-07-19 10:50:32 AM
1 votes:
much butthurt over nothing. I find it rather silly myself. Evil doesn't always look like a monster. That's the lesson to be learned here.
2013-07-19 10:50:28 AM
1 votes:
Can't recall; was there any butthurt about this?
www.washingtonpost.com
2013-07-19 10:47:16 AM
1 votes:

WTF Indeed: Don't let facts and logic get in the way of a good tinfoiling! Run away from the light of common sense!


I'm all for a good crazy-as-f*ck conspiracy theory, but come on!

How about the fact that the only injury he has is the one he gave himself? Boston PD needs to go back to the gun range
2013-07-19 10:47:16 AM
1 votes:

Theaetetus: hardinparamedic: Theaetetus: I don't see a gash on his neck there, do you?

I can't respond to any of your points, and acknowledge that my picture doesn't show what I claimed it did, so I'm going to just insult you personally and hope no one notices.


I just responded to your points. Other FARKers have posted pictures which directly contradict what you claim.

i.huffpost.com
a.abcnews.com

"If personally insulting you" is calling your argument ludacris and asking you to back up your claim by even one statement from Tsaronev himself is impossible, then yes. I am insulting you, cupcake.
2013-07-19 10:44:05 AM
1 votes:

skozlaw: There's nothing inherently wrong with the cover. It's a picture of Tsarnaev that he took and posted. It has been posted elsewhere. But because it's not tinted to make him look evil or doesn't have some negative slur plastered over it in huge font people are "outraged". If it doesn't make a bad man look bad, the "thinking" goes, it must mean it makes him look good because god knows it can't just be an objective image of a person as he appeared before we became aware of him.


Here's the problem: it's one thing to do what RS did in 1970 and run a cover story on Charlie Manson, but back then Manson was the main story on the cover, with one other vague blurb about another story that you'd have to look inside to figure out. Like so.

www.mediabistro.com

If this had been what RS did with Tsarnaev there would've been no ethical problem, but instead they gave Tsarnaev the Tiger Beat treatment. They did tart up the photo a bit, like he's Taylor Swift or something, under the guise of improving its resolution, and then ran the sidebar trying to plug all the other stuff in their magazine. The cover treatment makes the Tsarnaev piece into just another entertainment story.

Look at it this way: how stupid would it have looked in 1970 if RS had run the Manson cover with a sidebar featuring John & Yoko talking macrobiotics, a Linda Ronstadt photo spread, and a preview of that hot new band Led Zeppelin?

/yes, linda ronstadt was unspeakably hot back in the day, but that's not the point
//and it won't be the point until i get to my bunk
2013-07-19 10:41:17 AM
1 votes:

Theaetetus: Perhaps you both are confused about what I'm saying. I'm not saying he was entirely uninjured. I'm not saying he didn't have blood on his forehead. I'm not saying that his hand didn't have blood on it. I'm saying, specifically, that he doesn't appear to have a throat injury prior to being taken into custody. And that picture of yours certainly doesn't dispute that.


You're right! It all makes sense if you think about it! Obviously they shot him on the ground, hoping to eliminate is ability to speak so he couldn't tell the masses that this was a false flag operation by the CIA and Obama's PAC to force baseball parks around the country to play "Sweet Caroline" for two weeks.
2013-07-19 10:41:07 AM
1 votes:

Theaetetus: I don't see a gash on his neck there, do you?


You enjoy the abuse you get from this thread, don't you? This is sexual for you.
2013-07-19 10:36:24 AM
1 votes:

Theaetetus: [Citation needed]. The only ones I've seen are after he was in custody, which doesn't contradict what I hypothesized above.


Yes. He was shot after the police arrested him. That's why no one but random people on the internet have been saying that. Not his lawyer. Not him. Not anything.

a.abcnews.com

See that green thing? That's an israeli trauma bandage. It's used for gunshot injuries. It's also being applied to the side of his neck obscured by the shadow and shirt in your picture.
2013-07-19 10:32:26 AM
1 votes:

HotWingConspiracy: Yeah, there were dozens of them, they had it covered. Have you considered photo evidence might be useful down the road?


That's not the issue. The issue is he released material pertaining to an active investigation to the media and public without getting department permission or running it by the assigned Public Information Officer for that incident, which he was not authorized to release.

What if it was not the Boston Bomber, but a person completely innocent?

You don't freelance on a major incident, and you don't release information unless you're the designated media contact for that, or you have permission of someone high on the command chain.
2013-07-19 10:30:15 AM
1 votes:
How is it when others ran this same pic there was no outrage?  The Boston Herald , The NYT and others ran it with no problems whatsoever.
2013-07-19 10:26:52 AM
1 votes:

Theaetetus: "Relieved of duty" for one day, on a Friday. He was probably ordered to turn in his gun and badge and pick up a fishing rod and a case of beer.


It's also 100 degrees out, which means his punishment might mean "not standing at the BU Bridge rotary for 8 hours directing traffic"
2013-07-19 10:26:33 AM
1 votes:

Theaetetus: Either he's a vampire, or they shot him after he was in custody.


Or you know, that you can only see half of his neck and there are other pictures of him showing the gash on neck. But don't worry, I'm sure that won't hurt your police beating sexual fantasies.
2013-07-19 10:26:24 AM
1 votes:

rubi_con_man: Aarontology: Maybe because that cop had a camera in his hands and not his gun

... meaning he was brave enough to be in the presence of an armed, desperate cop-killer without the ability to defend himself? Yeah, sounds like a really big pussy there...


Being "brave" is a small consolation when my taxes have to pay his medical records when he takes a bullet in the line of duty because he couldn't put down the Nikon.

As a Bostonian I wanted to know every goddamned armed person on that scene had their gun drawn and was ready to pull the trigger if he was wired to blow or put another person in danger....not document it for "posterity."  He's a farking cop....not Ansel Adams.  We pay him to do a job that does NOT involve taking pics.
2013-07-19 10:20:42 AM
1 votes:

rubi_con_man: Aarontology: Maybe because that cop had a camera in his hands and not his gun

... meaning he was brave enough to be in the presence of an armed, desperate cop-killer without the ability to defend himself? Yeah, sounds like a really big pussy there...


Oh goodness, what a dreamboat of a man.

I doubt that fact that he was accompanied by a paramilitary police force had anything to do with it.
2013-07-19 10:17:24 AM
1 votes:

hardinparamedic: That's a lot of butthurt. I wonder if submitter was the Police Sergeant who got fired for violating department policy and pretending to be the PIO for a major incident.


The butthurt initiated from the US Attorney's Office, which means anyone from the Commonwealth level (State Police or politicians) are going to have zero impact on getting this guy reinstated.

Fox News is going to go into full Nancy Grace orgasm mode in the days to come.
2013-07-19 10:15:30 AM
1 votes:
umm.. how are those photos shocking or anything?  its like two pics of a kid from a very far distance away that you cant really tell anything other then he is apparently Hindu and his third eye glows in the dark.
2013-07-19 10:13:17 AM
1 votes:
It's called "chain of command" and apparently this sergeant had never heard of it.
2013-07-19 10:10:40 AM
1 votes:
A State Police sergeant, incensed by the controversial Rolling Stone magazine cover...

Well, there's your problem right there Mr. Sergeant Cop. You get really angry over trivial, meaningless shiat. This is what happens when you can't control your emotions like a normal person and worry too much about stupid things that don't actually matter.
2013-07-19 09:01:26 AM
1 votes:
That's a lot of butthurt. I wonder if submitter was the Police Sergeant who got fired for violating department policy and pretending to be the PIO for a major incident.
 
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