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(AZ Family)   Brewery in Arizona is honoring the 19 fallen firefighters the only way it knows how: By crafting a tribute beer that uses 19 different kinds of hops and rates a 19 on the color scale and will be called 'Heroes 19'   (azfamily.com) divider line 79
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2013-07-19 11:09:32 AM

TheShavingofOccam123: The people drink this shiat up.

Instead of going out and cutting down the brush, tall weeds, trees up against houses and other things that killed these firefighters.

Nah, let's just have a few in their honor then go home and drill the Mrs.


You are expecting a brewery to get into the business of land management and wildfire mitigation?
 
2013-07-19 11:10:46 AM

nekom: TheShavingofOccam123: The people drink this shiat up.

Instead of going out and cutting down the brush, tall weeds, trees up against houses and other things that killed these firefighters.

Nah, let's just have a few in their honor then go home and drill the Mrs.

You are expecting a brewery to get into the business of land management and wildfire mitigation?


They could dig up all the underbrush and plant hops. Yes!

/nah, I'm talking about the drinkers.
 
2013-07-19 11:11:23 AM

TheShavingofOccam123: Instead of going out and cutting down the brush, tall weeds, trees up against houses and other things that killed these firefighters.


You drink the beer after clearing the spread, goofball.  Nice to have a good brew at the end of a day full of Manuel labor.
 
2013-07-19 11:15:34 AM

HeadLever: graeth: Then why not give all the money to charity/victims families?

Don't you want the workers to earnn a living wage?  Why should they work for free?  Why should they default on their utility bills?  If they give all of thier money away, the won't be in buisness very long.

No wonder you guys get laughed at when trying to disucss small buisness.


Well can't have it both ways, the guy after you says they're not in it for the money.
So why take money at all? Because they're not in it for the money.
Have to pick one or the other.
 
2013-07-19 11:16:34 AM

TheShavingofOccam123: They could dig up all the underbrush and plant hops. Yes!


Here in the interior west, I am pretty sure that cultivating wildlands (especially with no water rights) is a good way to end up in Vertical Bar Inn
 
2013-07-19 11:17:38 AM

HeadLever: TheShavingofOccam123: Instead of going out and cutting down the brush, tall weeds, trees up against houses and other things that killed these firefighters.

You drink the beer after clearing the spread, goofball.  Nice to have a good brew at the end of a day full of Manuel labor.


why is Manuel doing all your labor.  did you go by the HomeDepot again?
 
2013-07-19 11:20:12 AM

graeth: Have to pick one or the other.


Are you seriously that dumb?  Do you know what labor costs and bills are?  If you are rich to start with and don't have any worry about needing revenue to pay expensese then you can give all your money away.  For 99.99% of the rest of us, we will need to worry about money to keep the damn doors open.
 
2013-07-19 11:24:53 AM

smallerGov: why is Manuel doing all your labor. did you go by the HomeDepot again?


No, but I start to get this incredible  impulso para iniciar speaing español cada vez que me pongo estos guantes.
 
2013-07-19 11:27:10 AM

HeadLever: graeth: Have to pick one or the other.

Are you seriously that dumb?  Do you know what labor costs and bills are?  If you are rich to start with and don't have any worry about needing revenue to pay expensese then you can give all your money away.  For 99.99% of the rest of us, we will need to worry about money to keep the damn doors open.


And that's fine and dandy. I'm saying you shouldn't capitalize on people who sacrificed their lives and be all two-faced about making money on it.
 
2013-07-19 11:29:13 AM

RevMark: This is why I hate the whole brewing scene now. 19 different kinds of hops? Really? How pointless.

I can't drink most of the beers at "brewpubs" because they're like some hipsters Frankenstein creation. "Let's put in these hops. And these hops. And some more of the first hops. And these hops that have been aging in a shoe box under my bed. And this chocolate bar, including the wrapper. And these pecan shells. And here's some pocket lint. And a moldy orange peel. I shall call it... Shock Not Wampum Block 23.a Super Blue!"

Same goes for coffee. Dumb.


While you are definitely correct on some of the weirder craft brew disasters out there, there are plenty of those franken-beers that are actually pretty darn tasty.  It just depends how refined the idea is and how good the brewery is.  If it just opened it's probably a collection of homebrews that a group of people like but don't realize that they don't have broad appeal until they're cleaned up a bit.  If it has been around for a few years, unless they're trying something new, it should be fine.

My favorite local brew-pub does their standard beers on tap, and their experiments in wine bottles/on tap on a rotation.  Sometimes the experiments end up on tap beyond their spot in the rotation if they're popular and people like them.  Other times they disappear never to be heard from again.

That's the sign of a good craft brewery experimenting with weird things.  If it continues to exist even though it's objectively shiat (not just "Wah, I don't like hoppy things" shiat, like undrinkable), then find another place to drink.
 
2013-07-19 11:32:03 AM

graeth: Well can't have it both ways, the guy after you says they're not in it for the money.
So why take money at all? Because they're not in it for the money.
Have to pick one or the other.


You also have to keep the lights on, pay rent, keep up on maintenance, sanitation, and those giant brew kettles, those aren't cheap either - nor is shipping them cross country from failed breweries. That's all a given - without any of that, you won't have a brewery to brew beer.

Breweries operate on a schedule.  You only have so much space, so many tanks, so many fermenters...Say the places brews six batches a week, this just fits into the schedule of one of those 6 batches.

They're not going to go from saying "well, we normally make 8.50 an hour, but I know on this batch of beer, which won't be drinkable till a month and half from now, we'll say we're making 12.65 an hour so we can donate as little money as possible."

Who knows, maybe those who brewed the beer came in on a Sunday without pay and got it started. Volunteering, it's not a lost cause to everyone.
 
2013-07-19 11:33:08 AM

graeth: I'm saying you shouldn't capitalize on people who sacrificed their lives and be all two-faced about making money on it.


They are not capitalizing on it since all the money they make above thier expenses is not going to them.  It is going to charity.  I am starting to think that you don't know how to read.

I think that it is a great tribute to these kids, as it sounds like one of them used to work there.  I definatly support them if I ever see a bottle of this brew.  If you don't want to support them and thier effort, then don't buy any of it.  Pretty simple, really.
 
2013-07-19 11:44:37 AM

HeadLever: graeth: I'm saying you shouldn't capitalize on people who sacrificed their lives and be all two-faced about making money on it.

They are not capitalizing on it since all the money they make above thier expenses is not going to them.  It is going to charity.  I am starting to think that you don't know how to read.

I think that it is a great tribute to these kids, as it sounds like one of them used to work there.  I definatly support them if I ever see a bottle of this brew.  If you don't want to support them and thier effort, then don't buy any of it.  Pretty simple, really.


And you're missing the argument entirely and just brought it back full circle. Assuming that the article is correct in stating they will be donating all the proceeds to the charity. That is they will donate the profits, anything above material and operating costs (room, electric, gas, laundry, depreciation, wear and tear) and what they have to pay in labor. They can increase wages/salary per this project alone or just distribute a bonus to everyone involved and that reduces the profits sent to the charity without going back on their word. It sounds like a shyster practice, and it is; it is also done by many companies.
 
2013-07-19 11:52:35 AM
Will the hops be roasted?
 
2013-07-19 01:02:31 PM

graeth: They can increase wages/salary per this project alone or just distribute a bonus to everyone involved and that reduces the profits sent to the charity without going back on their word.


Are you seriously biatching about this company based upon what they might do, while completely ignoring the good they are trying to do?

Do you happen to work for the Federal Lemonade Stand Elimation Bureau?
 
2013-07-19 01:20:07 PM
HeadLever:
Are you seriously biatching about this company based upon what they might do, while completely ignoring the good they are trying to do?

Do you happen to work for the Federal Lemonade Stand Elimation Bureau?


I doubt that's real, but the Federal Lemonade Stand Elimination Bureau probably is. Probably because they can spell.

I was just pointing out people are getting flim-flammed/mislead/lulled into a false sense of charity by wording while the company can make some money off of others' sacrifice. The 'biatching' began in earnest with you.

If it was only a possibility, the statement would have been phrased differently. By using 'proceeds' the company is covering ass when they show a discrepancy between the revenue of sales and cost of the product if anyone looks closely.
 
2013-07-19 01:28:21 PM

graeth: HeadLever:
Are you seriously biatching about this company based upon what they might do, while completely ignoring the good they are trying to do?

Do you happen to work for the Federal Lemonade Stand Elimation Bureau?

I doubt that's real, but the Federal Lemonade Stand Elimination Bureau probably is. Probably because they can spell.

I was just pointing out people are getting flim-flammed/mislead/lulled into a false sense of charity by wording while the company can make some money off of others' sacrifice. The 'biatching' began in earnest with you.

If it was only a possibility, the statement would have been phrased differently. By using 'proceeds' the company is covering ass when they show a discrepancy between the revenue of sales and cost of the product if anyone looks closely.


You should go there, ask to see the numbers then ask for a free glass of water.
 
2013-07-19 01:29:26 PM

HeadLever: graeth: Then why not give all the money to charity/victims families?

Don't you want the workers to earnn a living wage?  Why should they work for free?  Why should they default on their utility bills?  If they give all of thier money away, the won't be in buisness very long.

No wonder you guys get laughed at when trying to disucss small buisness.


They make more than one type of beer.  Only this one goes to charity.  The one I will not buy.  The overly hopped hipster beer.  Hip Hop.

www.foodrepublic.com
 
2013-07-19 01:31:02 PM

graeth: I doubt that's real,


*Facepalm*

Really dude?

In any case, your butthurt that someone is honoring these kids is duly noted.  The fact that they may *gasp* 'make' some money while they are at it is immaterial to most of us.
 
2013-07-19 01:34:40 PM

mudpants: They make more than one type of beer. Only this one goes to charity.


That is fine.  Let them keep the profits from the other beer to help expand, buy new equipment, give thier workers a raise, hire more folks, and pay more taxes, etc.  That is perfectly fine by me.
 
2013-07-19 01:35:35 PM
Not really sure where 'profit' in small business became such a bad word.
 
2013-07-19 01:45:07 PM

HeadLever: graeth: I doubt that's real,

*Facepalm*

Really dude?

In any case, your butthurt that someone is honoring these kids is duly noted.  The fact that they may *gasp* 'make' some money while they are at it is immaterial to most of us.


You missed it by |  | that much. But it's text so I guess sardonic statements need to be spelled out.
And profit isn't a bad thing, small business or otherwise, you're still missing the point.
Profiting off a tragedy such as this is bad. Profiting off a tragedy such as this and claiming its charity, such as this, is worse.
 
2013-07-19 01:47:42 PM

graeth: Profiting off a tragedy honoring these kids such as this is bad.


And that is where you are wrong and why most folks scratch our heads at folks like you.
 
2013-07-19 01:55:03 PM
HeadLever: And that is where you are wrong and why most folks scratch our heads at folks like you because we're just too gullible to not think about throwing our money away on salesmen capitalizing on a morally reprehensible idea in the wake of a tragedy.


Crossing out and adding words to completely change the meaning of a statement is fun, isn't it?
 
2013-07-19 02:13:55 PM
You know what? I don't care if it gets the brewery free advertising.

More money is getting to those families and that's good enough for me.
 
2013-07-19 03:20:17 PM

graeth: Crossing out and adding words to completely change the meaning of a statement

how I see it from how everyone else sees it is fun, isn't it?
 
2013-07-19 04:25:18 PM

Terrible Old Man: Ah yes, what better way to honor dead men, then by making something that kept them needlessly busy when they were alive putting out dui crash fires, drunken house fires, and probably contributed to most arsons. Huzzah for alcohol.


Times are tough these days for firefighters - structural fires have been on the decline for decades, so without those drunken idiots we would be left with nothing but fallen old people calls, and bariatric rescues. At least the alcoholics make it interesting.
 
2013-07-19 05:11:30 PM

furterfan: the average number of hops was Nineteen

Ninininininininininin 19 nininininninin 19
Ninininininininininin 19 nininininninin 19


I am disappointed that I had to go halfway down the thread before someone made the reference.

/Was gonna do it myself if I had to.
//S-S-S-S-S-Saigon
 
2013-07-19 09:05:51 PM

furterfan: the average number of hops was Nineteen

Ninininininininininin 19 nininininninin 19
Ninininininininininin 19 nininininninin 19


This made me LOL.
Good one.
 
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