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(Krypton Radio)   Jim Henson's daughter revives world of 'The Dark Crystal' with new historical database and public search for author to create prequel storyline. Are you Gelfling enough?   (kryptonradio.com) divider line 46
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2013-07-19 09:02:36 AM
Yeah, but they need to modernize it for the hip-hop generation.

i.cdn.turner.com
 
2013-07-19 09:32:35 AM
Aughra had some bodacious ta-tas:

images4.wikia.nocookie.net

/I'd hit it.
 
2013-07-19 09:51:22 AM
Farscape proved that they still have the Skeksis armatures, so go for it.
 
2013-07-19 09:55:37 AM
I always thought those things looked like Jennifer Love Hewitt.
 
2013-07-19 10:01:24 AM
The solution to a problem nobody knew existed...
 
2013-07-19 10:03:03 AM
How will they choose a screenplay writer?

TRIAL BY STONE!
 
2013-07-19 10:06:53 AM
Jennifer Connoly was okay in that.
 
2013-07-19 10:11:22 AM

give me doughnuts: How will they choose a screenplay writer?

TRIAL BY STONE!


I'd put Aughra through TRIAL BY BONE!
 
2013-07-19 10:15:49 AM
ooooooohmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
 
2013-07-19 10:17:18 AM
So would it be creepy if I went to a bar and asked for some Girlfriend essence?
 
2013-07-19 10:22:08 AM
I heard they were working on the equal.. but it looks like that died.
 
2013-07-19 10:27:01 AM
Henson hired Genndy Tartakovsky (of Samurai Jack / Clone Wars / Dexter's Laboratory fame) to direct a sequel -- The Power of the Dark Crystal -- way back in 2006.

Tartakovsky and his team at The Orphanage Studios were in pre-production for over three years, before the project was inexplicably shelved. The few tidbits which dribbled out were quite interesting; the story was to be set 1,000 years after the events of the first film, featuring Kira as an aged Gelfling queen:

yafh.com

After The Power of the Dark Crystal was scrapped, Tartakovsky's team transitioned to develop the excellent (and, sadly, short-lived) Sym-Bionic Titan for Cartoon Network. After its cancellation, Tartakovsky moved on to Sony Pictures Animation to direct Hotel Transylvania ... and is currently directing a Popeye the Sailor animated feature.

A Dark Crystal prequel seems rather less interesting than a sequel, to me . . . and without a visionary of Tartakovsky's caliber at the helm, even less-so.

Perhaps it's best to simply let the original film stand on its own.
 
2013-07-19 10:33:57 AM

noazark: Perhaps it's best to simply let the original film stand on its own.


Sometimes, when a story is told in a complete way (like The Dark Crystal does), that is for the best.  You don't want to fark up a great film with vastly inferior sequels (I'm looking at you, Highlander 2).
 
2013-07-19 10:40:44 AM
That Dark Crystal text adventure game is utter crap
 
2013-07-19 10:45:20 AM
I was going to post a picture of the soul sucking, but why go through that trauma again.
 
2013-07-19 10:46:13 AM
I've always thought Sara Jean Underwood would make a good gelfling if they ever made a new movie.

I highly recommend a GIS if you don't know who she is but be warned a lot of pictures of her are going to be NSFW.
 
2013-07-19 10:56:33 AM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-07-19 11:01:56 AM

hubiestubert: Farscape proved that they still have the Skeksis armatures, so go for it.


I farkin loved that episode. Probably the best example of the Sci-Fi "body swap episode" trope that there is. Hell, Crichton even name-dropped the Skekses in that ep.

/You were in my shoes...I was in your pants...
//I'm personally holding out for Brian reviving Farscape, moreso than Dark Crystal...though more Henson of ANY type is welcome.
 
2013-07-19 11:19:55 AM

reillan: That Dark Crystal text adventure game is utter crap


It's certainly no "Leather Goddesses of Phobos".

/Upper Sandusky.
 
2013-07-19 11:20:16 AM
I hated it when Sci-Fi cancelled Farscape to get the rights to Stargate SG1 from Showtime.  One of my favorite shows that still had a lot of potential.  I'm down for anything more Henson. I wish they would bring back Farscape although they killed off one of the best characters in the movie wrap up.
 
2013-07-19 11:43:04 AM

diggumsmax: I hated it when Sci-Fi cancelled Farscape to get the rights to Stargate SG1 from Showtime.  One of my favorite shows that still had a lot of potential.  I'm down for anything more Henson. I wish they would bring back Farscape although they killed off one of the best characters in the movie wrap up.


Then be glad you never read any of the comics...No more Sikozu, no more Noranti (daffy as the old bat was, she kind of grew on me), John and Aeryn's son had some kind of weird genetic abnormality on his spinal column which caused parallel universe shifts, and there is a race of plants which the Delvian's split from who are masters and rulers of most of the rest of the galaxy, who invaded our favorite corner of the UT's through something called "grey space."

Rockne O'Bannon indicated that they are canon...but that has been retconned before.

/I liked KRAD as a writer on the show, but he kinda went a little farbot with the comics...
//With the exception of the "D'Argo's XXXXXX" series'. That trilogy was quite awesome.
 
2013-07-19 12:01:24 PM

dittybopper: Aughra had some bodacious ta-tas:


Oprah.  Tell me it doesn't fit.
 
2013-07-19 12:10:27 PM
I cannot put into words the profound affection I have for The Dark Crystal, however I will attempt it.

You know that feeling you get when you think that something is so excellent that it makes you angry? It's like a combination of envy, despair and joy. It's the realization that you will never be able to do anything that good. Is there a word for that?
 
2013-07-19 12:10:30 PM
Gelfling? Isn't that what Richard Gere is supposedly into?
 
2013-07-19 12:21:28 PM
Mostly I feel sorry for the Land Striders, especially when Kira takes them away from their family to get mauled by giant beetles and then thrown over a cliff.
 
2013-07-19 12:29:09 PM

NathanAllen: Mostly I feel sorry for the Land Striders, especially when Kira takes them away from their family to get mauled by giant beetles and then thrown over a cliff.


I would love to know what happened to the stilt suits that the Land Striders were made out of. Those things had real live people inside of them, and actually running in the damn things. Not just a couple of shots of them leaping around, but running on all fours with stilts. And then had a rubber suit strapped over them.

That is something that we are losing with CGI, the art of making puppets of the caliber than Henson and his crew were doing, and pushing the boundaries on, it's an art that is fading from film. Stop motion is nice, but the beauty of Henson and his crew was that they did performances, created real emotion, with a sock and some sticks, and that was their real magic.
 
2013-07-19 12:30:49 PM

Bacontastesgood: dittybopper: Aughra had some bodacious ta-tas:

Oprah.  Tell me it doesn't fit.


I was thinking more along the lines of Della Reese:

i.chzbgr.com
 
2013-07-19 12:33:21 PM

hubiestubert: NathanAllen: Mostly I feel sorry for the Land Striders, especially when Kira takes them away from their family to get mauled by giant beetles and then thrown over a cliff.

I would love to know what happened to the stilt suits that the Land Striders were made out of. Those things had real live people inside of them, and actually running in the damn things. Not just a couple of shots of them leaping around, but running on all fours with stilts. And then had a rubber suit strapped over them.

That is something that we are losing with CGI, the art of making puppets of the caliber than Henson and his crew were doing, and pushing the boundaries on, it's an art that is fading from film. Stop motion is nice, but the beauty of Henson and his crew was that they did performances, created real emotion, with a sock and some sticks, and that was their real magic.


Not to mention that they had a look of reality to them that even the best CGI fails to deliver.   The best practical effects are still greater than the best CGI.
 
2013-07-19 12:40:13 PM

NathanAllen: Mostly I feel sorry for the Land Striders, especially when Kira takes them away from their family to get mauled by giant beetles and then thrown over a cliff.


I cried, of course I was a kid and it was in the theatre. Matter of fact that movie was traumatizing for me
 
2013-07-19 12:42:27 PM

dittybopper: hubiestubert: NathanAllen: Mostly I feel sorry for the Land Striders, especially when Kira takes them away from their family to get mauled by giant beetles and then thrown over a cliff.

I would love to know what happened to the stilt suits that the Land Striders were made out of. Those things had real live people inside of them, and actually running in the damn things. Not just a couple of shots of them leaping around, but running on all fours with stilts. And then had a rubber suit strapped over them.

That is something that we are losing with CGI, the art of making puppets of the caliber than Henson and his crew were doing, and pushing the boundaries on, it's an art that is fading from film. Stop motion is nice, but the beauty of Henson and his crew was that they did performances, created real emotion, with a sock and some sticks, and that was their real magic.

Not to mention that they had a look of reality to them that even the best CGI fails to deliver.   The best practical effects are still greater than the best CGI.


QFT. Which is also why Farscape has aged as well as it has. Pilot and Rygel were far beyond puppets/muppets. They were brought to full, vibrant life on that screen by the Hensons. Nearly every single actor who worked on Farscape has testified that they frequently forgot that they were acting with a puppet, the level of detail and realism was so believable on them.
 
2013-07-19 01:26:33 PM

slapmastered: diggumsmax: I hated it when Sci-Fi cancelled Farscape to get the rights to Stargate SG1 from Showtime.  One of my favorite shows that still had a lot of potential.  I'm down for anything more Henson. I wish they would bring back Farscape although they killed off one of the best characters in the movie wrap up.

Then be glad you never read any of the comics...No more Sikozu, no more Noranti (daffy as the old bat was, she kind of grew on me), John and Aeryn's son had some kind of weird genetic abnormality on his spinal column which caused parallel universe shifts, and there is a race of plants which the Delvian's split from who are masters and rulers of most of the rest of the galaxy, who invaded our favorite corner of the UT's through something called "grey space."

Rockne O'Bannon indicated that they are canon...but that has been retconned before.

/I liked KRAD as a writer on the show, but he kinda went a little farbot with the comics...
//With the exception of the "D'Argo's XXXXXX" series'. That trilogy was quite awesome.


Wow, those comics sound terrible and to far out there for, well, Farscape.  Delvian's rulers of most of the galaxy, grey space, spinal column that causes parallel universe shifts???  Glad I didn't waste my time reading the comics, I was on the fence about it a long time ago but now I'm glad I didn't.
 
2013-07-19 01:27:01 PM
Resident Evil.  Strider.  The Dark Crystal.

Has anyone come up with anything new and good recently?
 
2013-07-19 01:41:36 PM

dittybopper: noazark: Perhaps it's best to simply let the original film stand on its own.

Sometimes, when a story is told in a complete way (like The Dark Crystal does), that is for the best.  You don't want to fark up a great film with vastly inferior sequels (I'm looking at you, Highlander 2).


Prequels also ruin things even more. You can pretend a sequel was from a future that didn't happen, but it's tougher when a prequel extends its tendrils of suck into the origin of a story you love.
 
2013-07-19 01:55:49 PM
Yes.

And Brian Froud is very cool.  I got his autograph and a little doodle as well at Faireworlds outside Eugene, Oregon a few years ago.  My eldest (he was 4 at the time) demanded to dress up as a gnome, despite the heat.

My wife donned wings.  I was just a regular mundane though.
 
2013-07-19 02:03:58 PM

slapmastered: QFT. Which is also why Farscape has aged as well as it has. Pilot and Rygel were far beyond puppets/muppets. They were brought to full, vibrant life on that screen by the Hensons. Nearly every single actor who worked on Farscape has testified that they frequently forgot that they were acting with a puppet, the level of detail and realism was so believable on them.


It's also why a movie like Tremors can look as good as it still does, even though it was low-budget and made 23 years ago.
 
2013-07-19 03:02:32 PM
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2013-07-19 03:41:05 PM

reillan: That Dark Crystal text adventure game is utter crap


Jen can cut no vine before its time
 
2013-07-19 03:56:00 PM
and also one of the biggest reasons that The Hitchhikers guide to the Galaxy was so awesome.. actual physical effects... and MUPPETS
 
2013-07-19 04:03:42 PM
I see a dark, dark place where a Bernank is able to replicate shard, after shard, after shard of the dark crystal until he controls nearly every shire in the realm.

This is the way all future ceiling fans are to be he exclaims!
 
2013-07-19 05:09:39 PM

slapmastered: QFT. Which is also why Farscape has aged as well as it has. Pilot and Rygel were far beyond puppets/muppets. They were brought to full, vibrant life on that screen by the Hensons. Nearly every single actor who worked on Farscape has testified that they frequently forgot that they were acting with a puppet, the level of detail and realism was so believable on them


Also the first TMNT movie holds up amazingly well for a movie released in 1990, thanks in part to the excellent costume work by Henson's Creature Shop.

/ the second one doesn't hold up as well, but that has nothing to do with visuals.
 
2013-07-19 05:30:08 PM

rikkards: NathanAllen: Mostly I feel sorry for the Land Striders, especially when Kira takes them away from their family to get mauled by giant beetles and then thrown over a cliff.

I cried, of course I was a kid and it was in the theatre. Matter of fact that movie was traumatizing for me


For some reason the saddest part was the part with the Nebrie and its babies, then the very next scene was the feast serving road Nebrie.
 
2013-07-19 06:22:31 PM

dittybopper: noazark: Perhaps it's best to simply let the original film stand on its own.

Sometimes, when a story is told in a complete way (like The Dark Crystal does), that is for the best.  You don't want to fark up a great film with vastly inferior sequels (I'm looking at you, Highlander 2).


True that. But if I recall correctly, in the book of the Dark Crystal production art, Froud made reference in the margins to the prehistory of the world of TDC. They may have provided him with a guide, or maybe he did it on the fly; I don't know.
 
2013-07-19 07:57:19 PM
Gelfling? GELFLING?!
 
2013-07-19 08:34:30 PM

diggumsmax: I hated it when Sci-Fi cancelled Farscape to get the rights to Stargate SG1 from Showtime.  One of my favorite shows that still had a lot of potential.  I'm down for anything more Henson. I wish they would bring back Farscape although they killed off one of the best characters in the movie wrap up.


For like 2 seasons, I watched SG1 and FarScape on Friday nights one after the other. Why would they cancel FS to get SG1 when they already had it?
 
2013-07-19 09:34:32 PM
Wrong tag. read the contract they own EVERYTHING that's submitted and don't have to pay for any of it.
 
2013-07-20 03:22:33 PM

NathanAllen: Mostly I feel sorry for the Land Striders, especially when Kira takes them away from their family to get mauled by giant beetles and then thrown over a cliff.


Same here.  And I always got angry that Kira had wings.
 
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