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2013-07-18 02:18:13 PM  
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2013-07-18 03:19:52 PM  
Another month, another rumor of an Apple-branded TV.
 
2013-07-18 03:39:45 PM  
I want one as an interface for digital recording software. So. Bad.

I like working in a Mac environment, and a big touch screen interface would be super. Virtual mixing desk and effects rack. The mere thought give me a chubby.
 
2013-07-18 03:41:07 PM  
I'm sorry, subby, but the correct headline would have been "Apple about to invent the TV"
 
2013-07-18 03:50:09 PM  
Women with large iVaginas relieved.
 
2013-07-18 03:57:34 PM  
It's not my fault I have a heavy flow and a wide-set vagina
 
2013-07-18 03:58:08 PM  
"The iPod Touch. You'll buy it fivesix times and think you're cool."
 
2013-07-18 04:00:32 PM  
Or 4k thunderbolt displays to attach to the new mac pro that they made a big fuss about being able to drive three  such things.
 
2013-07-18 04:00:52 PM  
I think the most interesting thing of the article was "Sony is also reportedly in talks with LG over the panels."  I actually thought Sony made their own TVs including the panels.
 
2013-07-18 04:02:30 PM  
The iPad Maxi? The iMaxiPad?
 
2013-07-18 04:05:14 PM  
Im shocked apple hasn't invented the watch, like they invented the smartphone, mp3 player, tv, etc...

What is the appeal of Apple TV over other alternatives?
 
2013-07-18 04:07:35 PM  
Soon to come

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2013-07-18 04:11:42 PM  

DanZero: Soon to come

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I can tell that's fake. A real iPhone would have Steve Jobs's face on the "Holy Bible" icon.
 
2013-07-18 04:14:38 PM  

machoprogrammer: Im shocked apple hasn't invented the watch, like they invented the smartphone, mp3 player, tv, etc...

What is the appeal of Apple TV over other alternatives?


Honestly? I push the menu button and can start browsing within 2-3 seconds. As opposed to the 20 seconds it takes on an XBox. Or the 5 minutes it takes via an XBox media centre.
 
2013-07-18 04:24:11 PM  

WhippingBoy: Honestly? I push the menu button and can start browsing within 2-3 seconds. As opposed to the 20 seconds it takes on an XBox. Or the 5 minutes it takes via an XBox media centre.


That's the price you pay for a multi-function device like an XBox or PS3. I certainly see the point from the technical side, but I have a hard time swallowing all that extra money just to duplicate a function I already have so I can save a couple extra seconds now and then when I go to watch streaming media.
 
2013-07-18 04:24:36 PM  

WhippingBoy: machoprogrammer: Im shocked apple hasn't invented the watch, like they invented the smartphone, mp3 player, tv, etc...

What is the appeal of Apple TV over other alternatives?

Honestly? I push the menu button and can start browsing within 2-3 seconds. As opposed to the 20 seconds it takes on an XBox. Or the 5 minutes it takes via an XBox media centre.


I have a Roku, my SO has an Apple TV. I have found the two to be functionally equivalent, with the small exception that I can access content that I've bought through iTunes on her Apple TV if it's signed in to my Apple ID. I say "small exception" because the ability to do that isn't really a huge selling point for me.
 
2013-07-18 04:30:07 PM  
My father - somewhat tech-savvy in his mid-60s - has refused to get a smartphone until there is a tablet/smartphone combination.  Not one where you can run Skype or Facetime - it has to BE a phone and BE a tablet, and one the size of an iPad.  He's not interested in the Note.  Essentially he wants to hold a small plate that he can draw on and occasionally shout at.

He is a man with a vision, and I believe that Apple will be the company that makes his dream come true.  I thought this headline might be for him.
 
2013-07-18 04:32:00 PM  

bestsportnascar: I think the most interesting thing of the article was "Sony is also reportedly in talks with LG over the panels."  I actually thought Sony made their own TVs including the panels.


Sony were in a joint venture with Samsung that built LCD panels, but I think Samsung bought them out. Sony haven't built their own screens since CRT and the Trinitron tubes.
 
2013-07-18 04:47:06 PM  

Cybernetic: WhippingBoy: machoprogrammer: Im shocked apple hasn't invented the watch, like they invented the smartphone, mp3 player, tv, etc...

What is the appeal of Apple TV over other alternatives?

Honestly? I push the menu button and can start browsing within 2-3 seconds. As opposed to the 20 seconds it takes on an XBox. Or the 5 minutes it takes via an XBox media centre.

I have a Roku, my SO has an Apple TV. I have found the two to be functionally equivalent, with the small exception that I can access content that I've bought through iTunes on her Apple TV if it's signed in to my Apple ID. I say "small exception" because the ability to do that isn't really a huge selling point for me.


Apple TV won't play local content at all. No USB support.

Having had both (and several others), I find a much better experience on current model Samsung Blu-ray Disc players that support their Smart Hub features. Better local file support (plays just about any codec/container), all the channels/apps you'd want (Netflix, Hulu Plus, Plex, Crackle, Vudu, MLB, CinemaNow, Blockbuster, various weather apps, games, etc.) and fast loading like the Roku. Check out the BD-F5900 or BD-E5700 or BD-FM59. If you have a 4k TV, then go for the BD-F7500.

The PS3 and Xbox 360 suck as media players. They don't support many codecs and containers. They don't support NTFS drives. Microsoft actually requires you to pay them an additional subscription fee to use the subscription services you already paid for! Unless you're willing to run a server PC that transcodes for you (thus tying up the PC), they really aren't a great choice. They're also slower, louder, and use more power.
 
2013-07-18 04:58:33 PM  
Looking forward to a 60" 4K tv for a reasonable price.  My TV does double-duty as a computer monitor, so the extra pixels won't be going to waste.

Just needs to accept a signal greater than 60Hz.  Stupid current TVs and their limitations...  Capping my FPS like a sonofabiatch.  60FPS is NOT enough.
 
2013-07-18 05:06:27 PM  
I doubt there is ever going to be an Apple branded TV. At  the end of the day how will it be anything different than an LED/LCD TV with a built in Apple TV box? The fact that it hasn't happened yet after so many years of speculations seems to verify this.

I'd think it would make more sense to beaf up the Apple TV's capabilities to compete with Roku and Blu-ray players that stream video, as well as offer more video content in iTunes store.
 
2013-07-18 05:11:16 PM  

Cybernetic: content that I've bought through iTunes


Well there's your first mistake.
 
2013-07-18 05:20:41 PM  
This has nothing to do with an Apple branded TV, and everything to do with the new Mac Pro. When Apple announced it at this years WWDC they touted the fact it could power up to three 4k displays. Odds are Apple is shopping around to sell Apple branded 4k Cinema displays for the Mac Pro.
 
2013-07-18 05:25:26 PM  
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/Slightly behind on schedule
//And vitality
 
2013-07-18 05:32:51 PM  
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Microsoft's original Surface was basically a giant iPad.
 
2013-07-18 05:35:10 PM  

WhippingBoy: machoprogrammer: Im shocked apple hasn't invented the watch, like they invented the smartphone, mp3 player, tv, etc...

What is the appeal of Apple TV over other alternatives?

Honestly? I push the menu button and can start browsing within 2-3 seconds. As opposed to the 20 seconds it takes on an XBox. Or the 5 minutes it takes via an XBox media centre.


Roku has been there, done that for years.
 
2013-07-18 05:45:02 PM  

ZeroCorpse: Apple TV won't play local content at all. No USB support.


Depends on the revision of the ATV.  Gen 1 is fully hackable with minimal effort and even running a simple patchstick will support USB storage all the way up to ripping out it's WiFi card for a h264 accelerator and/or replacing the OS with *NIX (which is the only way to get the latest XBMC's working).   Gen 2 is reasonably hackable, runs XBMC quite happily and should have USB support (if I recall it does have a mini-USB port).  Gen 3 is the one to avoid as patching it is somewhere between 'nope' and 'EMMMERGHAD' levels depending on who you talk to (but generally speaking there isn't a jailbreak for it).

Of course carting around USB drives full of content is for noobs.  Winners use a central file store and share it all out over NFS.

/This is why Gen 2's also have a price premium on ebay.
//Gen 1 can still play 720p files once Handbrake'd without the accelerator.
 
2013-07-18 05:49:24 PM  

machoprogrammer: Im shocked apple hasn't invented the watch, like they invented the smartphone, mp3 player, tv, etc...

What is the appeal of Apple TV over other alternatives?


Nice looking XBMC frontends.  True all the alternatives will do exactly the same job with exactly the same amount of effort however when you look at things like the Raspberry (gutless wonder that it is the farker is cheap as chips for this job) note the socket placement.  It gets really untidy really quickly when you've got LAN + HDMI + power connected.   This tends to be an issue with most of the alternatives as well.

I wouldn't buy an ATV to use as an ATV though; my Gen1 was instantly patchstick'd.
 
2013-07-18 05:56:19 PM  

MrEricSir: [img842.imageshack.us image 450x338]

Microsoft's original Surface was basically a giant iPad.


Always wanted to play on one of those I'm pretty sure it couldn't do everything they had it doing on TV though (scanning photo's, reading cell phone data and such just by putting it on the table) but cool never the less.
 
2013-07-18 06:04:36 PM  
Has anybody checked to see if someone has registered iWall.com?
 
2013-07-18 06:05:12 PM  
Maybe they're just shopping for TVs for their conference rooms.
 
2013-07-18 06:14:41 PM  

DKinMN: I want one as an interface for digital recording software. So. Bad.

I like working in a Mac environment, and a big touch screen interface would be super. Virtual mixing desk and effects rack. The mere thought give me a chubby.


I hear what you're saying, although I'm not big on Apple products (mostly because fans think their latest Apple toy is the baby Jesus). However, where would this giant touch screen go to be operational? Mounted on the wall, it would be kinda shiatty to have to get up and fondle the t.v. screen in order to adjust the rate of a phaser. But then, say it was laying flat on a table or at an incline to mimic a real mixing board, is Apple going to sell costume furniture now, too?
 
2013-07-18 06:27:53 PM  

PoweredByIrony: My father - somewhat tech-savvy in his mid-60s - has refused to get a smartphone until there is a tablet/smartphone combination. Not one where you can run Skype or Facetime - it has to BE a phone and BE a tablet, and one the size of an iPad. He's not interested in the Note. Essentially he wants to hold a small plate that he can draw on and occasionally shout at.

He is a man with a vision, and I believe that Apple will be the company that makes his dream come true. I thought this headline might be for him.


https://www.asus.com/Tablets_Mobile/ASUS_Fonepad/
You want one of those with a Wacom stylus input.

That's unlikely to come from Apple. It's more likely to come from Samsung.
Or, if you didn't mean "stylus" when you said "draw" then the Fonepad may be the thing for you
 
2013-07-18 06:34:53 PM  

PoweredByIrony: My father - somewhat tech-savvy in his mid-60s - has refused to get a smartphone until there is a tablet/smartphone combination.  Not one where you can run Skype or Facetime - it has to BE a phone and BE a tablet, and one the size of an iPad.  He's not interested in the Note.  Essentially he wants to hold a small plate that he can draw on and occasionally shout at.

He is a man with a vision, and I believe that Apple will be the company that makes his dream come true.  I thought this headline might be for him.


I've been thinking about going with a tablet with a cellular antenna, a bring your own device pay go plan with unlimited data, Google Voice, and a Bluetooth headset.
 
2013-07-18 06:38:25 PM  

Vaneshi: MrEricSir: [img842.imageshack.us image 450x338]

Microsoft's original Surface was basically a giant iPad.

Always wanted to play on one of those I'm pretty sure it couldn't do everything they had it doing on TV though (scanning photo's, reading cell phone data and such just by putting it on the table) but cool never the less.


I got to play around with one at SIGGRAPH '07. As far as I remember it couldn't scan photos, but it could recognize certain objects (using QR codes, if I recall) and could auto-sync with certain Microsoft phones.

One of the slickest tricks was that you could put a phone on the table, hit a button, and all the phone's photos would appear on the Surface around the phone in a circle. Then you could flick the photos around, stretch them out to zoom in, etc.

There were also some simple board games that involved plopping physical tiles on the Surface.
 
2013-07-18 07:05:37 PM  
What is the point of an Apple TV?  It's not like you will be able to impress the general public with your ownership of one.
 
2013-07-18 07:06:33 PM  
The guy taking a selfie with a cookie sheet is one step closer to reality.
 
2013-07-18 07:14:26 PM  

MrEricSir: Vaneshi: MrEricSir: [img842.imageshack.us image 450x338]

Microsoft's original Surface was basically a giant iPad.

Always wanted to play on one of those I'm pretty sure it couldn't do everything they had it doing on TV though (scanning photo's, reading cell phone data and such just by putting it on the table) but cool never the less.

I got to play around with one at SIGGRAPH '07. As far as I remember it couldn't scan photos, but it could recognize certain objects (using QR codes, if I recall) and could auto-sync with certain Microsoft phones.

One of the slickest tricks was that you could put a phone on the table, hit a button, and all the phone's photos would appear on the Surface around the phone in a circle. Then you could flick the photos around, stretch them out to zoom in, etc.

There were also some simple board games that involved plopping physical tiles on the Surface.


The Perceptive Pixel touch displays that Microsoft puts outside of its mall-based retail stores are pretty cool. The one at a mall near me plays Fruit Ninja, and my kids love it. I don't know how useful it would be for my day-to-day stuff, but if it were affordable I'd be willing to find out.
 
2013-07-18 07:27:43 PM  
I bought a Vizio TV during Black Friday last year just for XBox in the bedroom. The fact that it had "smart TV" features was something I considered later after I had unboxed it (I was really only after screen quality).  After reluctantly trying out the smart TV features, I've discovered that the apps are somewhat useful.  Netflix and Hulu are better on it (load up faster, don't require taking 5-10 minutes of starting up the noisy XBox), apps like Twitter and Weather are barely useful (navigating with a TV remote is barely functional), but the biggest one of all, the built in media browser (Vizio's) is downright terrible.  Weak codec support, slow folder access to the shared stuff on my computer, it seems as if it was added to the TV as an afterthought.  Which is fair because when I purchased the TV that feature was an afterthought.  Yeah, smart TVs have already been in the market for a while now, but like smart phones perhaps Apple has something better in mind.  Seems kind of a natural progression to me that the Apple TV boxes would have a built-in TV counterpart one day.
 
2013-07-18 10:07:11 PM  
Ultra HD TV's?  Those are gonna be expensive... wait, Apple brand Ultra HD TV's?!?!  ONLY THE RUSSIAN GUY WITH THE TINY GIRAFFE WILL BE ABLE TO AFFORD THIS!
 
2013-07-18 10:33:16 PM  
all this talk of the apple tv box, and no one mentions airplay+mirroring. That's the best feature, IMO.
 
2013-07-19 12:10:50 AM  

machoprogrammer: Im shocked apple hasn't invented the watch, like they invented the smartphone, mp3 player, tv, etc...

What is the appeal of Apple TV over other alternatives?


A fruity logo and a sense of smugness.
 
2013-07-19 01:24:17 AM  

jonny_q: PoweredByIrony: My father - somewhat tech-savvy in his mid-60s - has refused to get a smartphone until there is a tablet/smartphone combination. Not one where you can run Skype or Facetime - it has to BE a phone and BE a tablet, and one the size of an iPad. He's not interested in the Note. Essentially he wants to hold a small plate that he can draw on and occasionally shout at.

He is a man with a vision, and I believe that Apple will be the company that makes his dream come true. I thought this headline might be for him.

https://www.asus.com/Tablets_Mobile/ASUS_Fonepad/
You want one of those with a Wacom stylus input.

That's unlikely to come from Apple. It's more likely to come from Samsung.


Well, yeah.  They already come with standard SIM card slots (iPads use micro-SIMs).

http://tablets.wonderhowto.com/how-to/insert-sim-card-into-samsung-g al axy-tab-411587/

But, anyway, pads already have the capability to be phones.  Have for years.  Or am I misunderstanding the requirements?
 
2013-07-19 01:36:35 AM  

thornhill: I doubt there is ever going to be an Apple branded TV. At  the end of the day how will it be anything different than an LED/LCD TV with a built in Apple TV box? The fact that it hasn't happened yet after so many years of speculations seems to verify this.

I'd think it would make more sense to beaf up the Apple TV's capabilities to compete with Roku and Blu-ray players that stream video, as well as offer more video content in iTunes store.


What they should try to do, IMHO, is create a tv with a built in media server and try to corner that potential market like they were able to do with the MP3 player market. As we move away from physical media in all forms, the home server seems almost inevitable- people will want to access all of their content from all of their devices, and Apple could easily pull it off.
 
2013-07-19 01:39:26 AM  

Dragonflew: It's not like you will be able to impress the general public with your ownership of one.


Odd.  Most people who see my Gen1 doing it's thing are very impressed by it.

/Insert penis joke derived from size of media store here.
 
2013-07-19 01:44:22 AM  
With ATV, if you have a machine (mac or win) in the house running the dreaded iTunes with Home Sharing turned on, ATV can play anything in your library. Music, videos, iTunes U courses, whatevs, over wifi.

Of course, it will work much easier with an Apple wifi...  You can also stream stuff wirelessly to ATV from an iPhone or iPad with 'Airplay'.

Nothing wrong with the other stuff, but I do like how all Apple's stuff talks to each other.
 
2013-07-19 05:18:47 AM  

OhioUGrad: machoprogrammer: Im shocked apple hasn't invented the watch, like they invented the smartphone, mp3 player, tv, etc...

What is the appeal of Apple TV over other alternatives?

A fruity logo and a sense of smugness.


I feel pretty smug that I don't go around parroting lame propaganda like these two tools.
 
2013-07-19 10:06:22 AM  
i don't know about anybody else but i'm goddamn tired of fixing people's tv/surround setups and teaching my parents how to use universal remotes and to avoid features on a smart tv because they can't navigate using a remote

so if Apple wants to come into the TV space and give everybody a simpler model to copy/paste, then i say about damn time
 
2013-07-19 10:09:10 AM  

Vaneshi: machoprogrammer: Im shocked apple hasn't invented the watch, like they invented the smartphone, mp3 player, tv, etc...

What is the appeal of Apple TV over other alternatives?

Nice looking XBMC frontends.


I thought that's what the OUYA was for.
 
2013-07-19 10:09:49 AM  

bingethinker: OhioUGrad: machoprogrammer: Im shocked apple hasn't invented the watch, like they invented the smartphone, mp3 player, tv, etc...

What is the appeal of Apple TV over other alternatives?

A fruity logo and a sense of smugness.

I feel pretty smug that I don't go around parroting lame propaganda like these two tools.


Nah, you go around parroting entirely different lame propaganda.
 
2013-07-19 06:06:44 PM  

thornhill: At  the end of the day how will it be anything different than an LED/LCD TV with a built in Apple TV box? The fact that it hasn't happened yet after so many years of speculations seems to verify this.


I suspect they won't release any such thing until they have any answer to that question. They could just stop selling the AppleTV and try to get people to buy a TV with one baked in, as they'd make more money per unit, but IMHO the AppleTV doesn't offer enough unique value to make that product a winner -- they could sell a few, but it would never be something you see in every home.

With the decline of desktop computers (to mobile and portable systems) there's some opportunity to be had in being the new "always on" appliance in people's lives; thus far that movement has been largely Internet-based, but there's room for in-home devices as well, particularly if they can integrate with existing online services to improve them in some way.

So the answer could be something like "the TV is your server" -- wherein the TV actually holds and distributes your media to other devices, or lets you pop a blu-ray in the TV and watch it on your iPad, or integrates different online content providers (so you can find media without knowing who currently owns distribution rights for it), or does pre-caching for movies you rent, or maybe even dull things like "shared user accounts" and "wireless phone backups" and "shared calendars" that are old hat in corporate networks but few have at home. And of course there are home-automation opportunities that are neither complicated nor expensive if you assume there's a real computer that's always on to control them.

Apple has put out a number of products along the lines of bringing network and appliance services to home users. Time Machine, AppleTV, even their various AirPort base stations (with AirPlay and whatnot). If they can figure out a way to wrap all of those into an appliance that has a central role in most people's lives, and get to tap into the high-end TV market as part of the process, there's money to be had.

But in general I agree -- it's unlikely Apple is going to put out a big, expensive TV with that's got nothing more to offer than a baked-in Roku.
 
2013-07-19 07:08:04 PM  

thornhill: I doubt there is ever going to be an Apple branded TV. At  the end of the day how will it be anything different than an LED/LCD TV with a built in Apple TV box? The fact that it hasn't happened yet after so many years of speculations seems to verify this.

I'd think it would make more sense to beaf up the Apple TV's capabilities to compete with Roku and Blu-ray players that stream video, as well as offer more video content in iTunes store.


And if there is, who would buy it?  Apple would have to charge $7,000 per 55" TV to maintain their margins.
 
2013-07-19 10:18:46 PM  

HeartBurnKid: bingethinker: OhioUGrad: machoprogrammer: Im shocked apple hasn't invented the watch, like they invented the smartphone, mp3 player, tv, etc...

What is the appeal of Apple TV over other alternatives?

A fruity logo and a sense of smugness.

I feel pretty smug that I don't go around parroting lame propaganda like these two tools.

Nah, you go around parroting entirely different lame propaganda.


Oh snap! That would be pretty funny if it was true.
 
2013-07-19 11:14:41 PM  

HeartBurnKid: I thought that's what the OUYA was for.


Yeah... erm... perhaps if they'd of spent more than 50p on the case.  It looks horribly tacky.
 
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