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(BBC)   Since Fark has spent the last week mocking the UK for its 85 degree "heatwave", here are ten reasons why the country is so poorly equipped to deal with it   (bbc.co.uk) divider line 207
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ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-07-18 01:47:02 PM  
Last week, 200 ScotRail services were cancelled or held up because of the heat. In temperatures of 30C (86F) the rails themselves can easily reach 50C.
The UK network uses continuous welded rail as this is safer, stronger and allows trains to travel more quickly over it, Network Rail says.


In Massachusetts commuter rail slows to 30 mph when temperature reaches 90. The state (country?) has not historically been a fan of continuous welded rail. Some has been installed over the past 15 years.

4. Roads don't handle heat well either

A summer or two ago there was a story about Midwest concrete slabs buckling. One created a ramp and launched a bike.
 
2013-07-18 02:04:28 PM  
I'm sorry my apology melted before I could put it in the post, Britain
 
2013-07-18 02:12:13 PM  
It's like when we make fun of the southern states for being pretty much completely shut down whenever they get about an inch of snow. There are a variety of reasons why their infrastructure isn't set up to handle snow, and a population with a lack of personal experience handling it also complicates matters.

None of this makes it not hilarious or mockable though.
 
2013-07-18 02:33:29 PM  

TheOmni: None of this makes it not hilarious or mockable though.

 
2013-07-18 02:35:53 PM  
It's pining for the fjords.
 
2013-07-18 02:37:09 PM  
#11  www.journeywoman.com
 
2013-07-18 02:37:55 PM  
They can't figure out where to shove in 'u' into 'air conditioning'.
 
2013-07-18 02:39:12 PM  
I still disagree that 85 degrees is a heat wave. So they're excuses are invalid.

/92 here right now
 
2013-07-18 02:39:42 PM  

amindtat: #11  [www.journeywoman.com image 250x248]


man when i visited europe last late summer, i missed ice cubes badly. why are those losers stuck in the middle ages? give me my AC and ice cubes any day.
 
2013-07-18 02:40:03 PM  
You can get a window shaker in the States for under $200.  How much are they in the old empire?
 
2013-07-18 02:40:07 PM  
Air Con was a pretty sweet Nic Cage movie.
 
2013-07-18 02:40:42 PM  

amindtat: #11  [www.journeywoman.com image 250x248]


#12  4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-07-18 02:40:42 PM  
here is ten reasons indeed.
 
2013-07-18 02:40:47 PM  
Real reason: The British are so white you can see their veins and organs through their skin.
 
2013-07-18 02:41:47 PM  
"On railways there are traditionally expansion joints, using small gaps in the rail. But once the rail has expanded to fill those gaps you are in trouble.  "

Maybe in the early 1900's.  Modern railways use stretched rails to account for expansion.  I would hope even British rails would account for temps to occasionally go into the high 80s.
 
2013-07-18 02:42:02 PM  
Subby: It's not "85 degree", it's "90 degree". Temperatures have been up to 32 celsius, which is 89.6 fahrenheit.
 
2013-07-18 02:42:41 PM  
A Mintel report in 2008 found that just 0.5% of houses and flats in the UK had any kind of air con.

I wonder what percentage of their poor people have refrigerators?
 
2013-07-18 02:43:58 PM  
It's "only" 84 here in Ottawa, but the humidity is 85%, so it's uncomfortable.

Come visit Canada in January, we'll see who can't handle the temperature.
 
2013-07-18 02:44:15 PM  

coldcuts: Maybe in the early 1900's.  Modern railways use stretched rails to account for expansion.  I would hope even British rails would account for temps to occasionally go into the high 80s.


They don't account for leaves on the track, which is an annual occurrence. Why would you expect them to account for the one year in fifty with good weather?
 
2013-07-18 02:44:44 PM  

abhorrent1: I still disagree that 85 degrees is a heat wave. So they're excuses are invalid.

/92 here right now


They are indeed a nation of excuses
 
jvl
2013-07-18 02:45:42 PM  

ZAZ: Last week, 200 ScotRail services were cancelled or held up because of the heat. In temperatures of 30C (86F) the rails themselves can easily reach 50C.
The UK network uses continuous welded rail as this is safer, stronger and allows trains to travel more quickly over it, Network Rail says.

In Massachusetts commuter rail slows to 30 mph when temperature reaches 90. The state (country?) has not historically been a fan of continuous welded rail. Some has been installed over the past 15 years.


Yet somehow BART in the San Franscico Bay Area (with continuous rails) magically runs at full speed even when temperatures run up to 110F.
 
2013-07-18 02:45:45 PM  
So what they're saying is the Brits are inferior as a species and a tiny bit of variance of climate is killing them?  Hooray evolution!

Americans and our vastly superior genes mock and ridicule the wankers
 
2013-07-18 02:46:00 PM  

TheOmni: It's like when we make fun of the southern states for being pretty much completely shut down whenever they get about an inch of snow. There are a variety of reasons why their infrastructure isn't set up to handle snow, and a population with a lack of personal experience handling it also complicates matters.

None of this makes it not hilarious or mockable though.


Well, I grew up in the South, and now I live in the North.  They do mock people, but you know what I noticed?  They can't drive on snow or ice, either.  So at least Southerners have the sense to stay inside when they shouldn't be driving.

We had a "heat wave" the past two summers (this year was more moderate), and people were dying when the temperature reached 90 degrees!  Oh, my, how terrible.  So the whining goes both ways.
 
2013-07-18 02:46:38 PM  
I read about Black Sunday on wiki last night and holy shiat everything in Australia is out to murder the humans.
 
2013-07-18 02:46:42 PM  
Do you all have fans over there? It's 94 and humid as hell here and I'm comfy in front of my $25 fan.

Fake draft. (Draughts are beer.)
 
2013-07-18 02:48:07 PM  

teylix: amindtat: #11  [www.journeywoman.com image 250x248]

man when i visited europe last late summer, i missed ice cubes badly. why are those losers stuck in the middle ages? give me my AC and ice cubes any day.


Amen to that! It's damn hard to find an ice cube in Germany. One time, when I got a coke, I was given one ice cube and a room temperature soda.... sigh... The waitress thought I was insane when I explained to her to FILL the entire glass with ice.

However, when I do visit, the whole family buys "ice cube bags" just for me (they think I'm nuts) Basically plastic bags that have little "pockets" You fill them with water tie them off and stuff them in the freezer and you get little round ice cubes. They start making me ice two weeks before I show up. It's quite comical.
 
2013-07-18 02:49:38 PM  
Wow. Britain really is a shiathole place to live. I thought that was just a stereotype.
 
2013-07-18 02:50:48 PM  

bingethinker: It's "only" 84 here in Ottawa, but the humidity is 85%, so it's uncomfortable.

Come visit Canada in January, we'll see who can't handle the temperature.


I detect Canadian weather-brag.

Yes we all know its cold as farkity farkin fark up there in winter.  We also know you sometimes get 80 quintillion metric shiattonnes of snow, twice a day, uphill both ways.

Oh, and here in the US, we're idiots and weaklings because we don't have 3 snowplows and 47 loads of salt for every man, woman and child. And we wreck our cars in wholesale fashion after 15 minutes of sleet.

But you guys are SO NICE about pointing it out.

The point is, if the weather is not what you generally are equipped for, ITS NEWS TO US SO CLIMB BACK IN YOUR FARKING IGLOO AND EAT YOUR GODDAMNED ROAST PEGUIN.
 
2013-07-18 02:50:51 PM  
London has the same latitude as calgary, and similar to Saskatoon . Seems like it should be colder there
 
2013-07-18 02:52:14 PM  

ZAZ: Last week, 200 ScotRail services were cancelled or held up because of the heat. In temperatures of 30C (86F) the rails themselves can easily reach 50C.
The UK network uses continuous welded rail as this is safer, stronger and allows trains to travel more quickly over it, Network Rail says.

In Massachusetts commuter rail slows to 30 mph when temperature reaches 90. The state (country?) has not historically been a fan of continuous welded rail. Some has been installed over the past 15 years.

4. Roads don't handle heat well either

A summer or two ago there was a story about Midwest concrete slabs buckling. One created a ramp and launched a bike.


That was an SUV.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlQcVQw18V8

The concrete around here EXPLODES at the joints when it gets hot if it's not engineered right, usually it's large basketball sized chunks thrown a couple of feet, resulting in a big gap and rubble on the road.
 
2013-07-18 02:52:35 PM  
PENGUIN

/rage typo
 
2013-07-18 02:53:39 PM  

FTA:

just 0.5% of houses and flats in the UK had any kind of air con...the US, where nearly 100 million homes have it

I hate when "journalists"  they do this.  How the hell am I supposed to compare the percent of UK houses to the number of US houses.  This juxtaposition is utterly meaningless without more context.
 
2013-07-18 02:54:13 PM  

bingethinker: It's "only" 84 here in Ottawa, but the humidity is 85%, so it's uncomfortable.

Come visit Canada in January, we'll see who can't handle the temperature.


In the American South that would be spring.

Yes, with your "high" humidity.
 
2013-07-18 02:54:44 PM  

cbauer357: teylix: amindtat: #11  [www.journeywoman.com image 250x248]

man when i visited europe last late summer, i missed ice cubes badly. why are those losers stuck in the middle ages? give me my AC and ice cubes any day.

Amen to that! It's damn hard to find an ice cube in Germany. One time, when I got a coke, I was given one ice cube and a room temperature soda.... sigh... The waitress thought I was insane when I explained to her to FILL the entire glass with ice.

However, when I do visit, the whole family buys "ice cube bags" just for me (they think I'm nuts) Basically plastic bags that have little "pockets" You fill them with water tie them off and stuff them in the freezer and you get little round ice cubes. They start making me ice two weeks before I show up. It's quite comical.


I got used to drinking beer warm half of the time because my fridge was tiny when I lived in Germany and half of my alcohol purchases were spontaneous in nature so I could not chill them in the fridge. Hell the only place I ever saw ice for sale was at Esso, and it was ~5 Euro for a tiny bag. It might have been a half kilo or so.
 
2013-07-18 02:55:02 PM  
11.  Spent all their money on dental care.

img.mixedmartialarts.com
 
2013-07-18 02:55:11 PM  

thisiszombocom: London has the same latitude as calgary, and similar to Saskatoon . Seems like it should be colder there


The North Atlantic Current apparently has a lot to do with keeping its temperature more mild than its latitude would suggest.
 
2013-07-18 02:56:21 PM  

TheOmni: It's like when we make fun of the southern states for being pretty much completely shut down whenever they get about an inch of snow. There are a variety of reasons why their infrastructure isn't set up to handle snow, and a population with a lack of personal experience handling it also complicates matters.


No, it's actually quite different.

Getting an inch of snow means the roads are going to be slippery, and if you don't have the *PHYSICAL* infrastructure to deal with it (snowplows, huge piles of sand and salt), it can be a problem.  And that infrastructure costs money to maintain.  It's just not economical for government to maintain that in places that rarely get snow.

On the other hand, a couple of window fans (one facing in, one facing out in different rooms) can provide the draft necessary to keep a flat reasonably cool.  In fact, you'd want to do that at night, to get the cool air in, and then button up the flat and close the curtains/shades/blinds during the day to keep it cooler.

Also, the human body can put up with a very high temperatures so long as it stays hydrated properly.  Keep the water intake up, and the electrolytes balanced, and you should be fine as long as you don't have any major underlying health issues.

It's uncomfortable, but there is no reason why temperatures in the mid-80s to low 90s should be *FATAL*.
 
2013-07-18 02:56:35 PM  

23FPB23: The point is, if the weather is not what you generally are equipped for, ITS NEWS TO US SO CLIMB BACK IN YOUR FARKING IGLOO AND EAT YOUR GODDAMNED ROAST PEGUIN.


Roast penguin sounds delicious.
 
2013-07-18 02:57:02 PM  
To all you Brits: Why do you insist on calling it Nasa when it's NASA? (they cited a NASA study in TFA)
 
2013-07-18 02:57:32 PM  
A couple I know took a trip to Wales a few years a go. They reserched the typical sort of weather for Wales in July, and packed accordingly. It was 2006, and right at the beginning of the worst heatwave in a century. Roads were closed because the blacktop softened too much to drive on. Trains were cancelled because the rails were buckling.

But they did get to watch some filming of the Doctor Who Christmas Special.
 
2013-07-18 02:57:32 PM  

bingethinker: It's "only" 84 here in Ottawa, but the humidity is 85%, so it's uncomfortable.

Come visit Canada in January, we'll see who can't handle the temperature.


Hey, another Ottawa farker! The Citizen said the humidex hit 47 yesterday. (I can't handle Fahrenheit nonsense.)
 
2013-07-18 02:57:50 PM  

23FPB23: Oh, and here in the US, we're idiots and weaklings because we don't have 3 snowplows and 47 loads of salt for every man, woman and child.


Actually, we have that in my neck of the woods.  It usually goes significantly below zero (F) every winter.  We've had days where it hit -30 F.
 
2013-07-18 02:59:11 PM  
}1)They live in something called "Flats" while normal humans live in houses.

2)A/C hasn't been invented yet.

3)Something about trains that they haven't figured out yet.

4)They didn't learn anything about roads, either in all those years of "civilization"

5)They don't care about people.

6)Swimming? Is that like going to the dentist?

7)No sitting allowed. It's the nanny state.

8)Water? Isn't that what the dentist makes you spit with? Gross.

9)'ave a pint, mate.
 
2013-07-18 02:59:39 PM  

bingethinker: It's "only" 84 here in Ottawa, but the humidity is 85%, so it's uncomfortable.

Come visit Canada in January, we'll see who can't handle the temperature.


Whenever we have foreign visitors in the office (in Edmonton) I'm always disappointed that it isn't -25 C or below. I want them to experience the coldest we have to offer. I don't want them leaving and saying back home "I don't see what all the fuss is about"
 
2013-07-18 02:59:42 PM  
Sorry, we in the US are just a little over 200 years old. How old is the British Empire? I think you guys would have some infrastructure in place now.

And "well insulated" doesn't mean that your "flat" will be hotter, otherwise, they wouldn't even bother with insulation in homes in Phoenix. It keeps the cold in, also. Not having a cross breeze does. Open a window in different walls and things will make a difference.

And for God's sake, put in some more swimming pools and water fountains.
 
2013-07-18 03:00:48 PM  
TFA says workers are more likely to encounter air conditioning at work than at home, then whines about workers looking longingly outside and hoping for a siesta.
 
2013-07-18 03:00:52 PM  
The only common Freude is Schadenfreude.
 
2013-07-18 03:00:55 PM  

mmagdalene: Real reason: The British are so white you can see their veins and organs through their skin.


Are we now?

lh6.googleusercontent.com

Thinks not.
 
2013-07-18 03:02:20 PM  
So you're telling me it's so awful, because 85 degrees turns London into an average US city circa 1980?
shiatty roads, no rail, no pools/drinking fountains, no AC, crappy housing not designed for air flow, the elderly fending for themselves --
You're describing "an average, reasonably warm summer day" from not-so-long-ago.
 
2013-07-18 03:02:42 PM  

coldcuts: "On railways there are traditionally expansion joints, using small gaps in the rail. But once the rail has expanded to fill those gaps you are in trouble.  "

Maybe in the early 1900's.  Modern railways use stretched rails to account for expansion.  I would hope even British rails would account for temps to occasionally go into the high 80s.


Yeah, considering they can have trains in the Sonoran Desert and the Mohave Desert, i'm pretty sure that they can handle temps 30 degrees cooler than those places hit every year.
 
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