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(Al Jazeera)   Guantanamo junk searches to return as court overturns ban, ignoring arguments that search for justice may be tainted by searching taint   (aljazeera.com) divider line 14
    More: Misc, Guantanamo, United States, repeal, Appeals Court, Guantanamo Bay, Royce Lamberth  
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2013-07-18 02:42:40 PM  
5 votes:
Wasn't it US military policy that Muslims were particularly vulnerable to sexual humiliation and doing so would make them "break" or at least it was punishment they deserved.

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/ Uh oh. Cue the Lynndie England white knights.
2013-07-18 01:30:03 PM  
4 votes:
Remember, folks, half of them are innocent - our own government said so - but still in Gitmo because, allegedly, no one will claim them. Every time you read something like this, remember that half of the folks on which these indignities and evils are committed, are as innocent as you or I.

Land of the free, my ass. Certainly not the home of the brave, not these days.
2013-07-18 02:23:19 PM  
3 votes:
Can we just deal with these guys already?  It's been ten years.  Like the Deficit, the can will just keep getting kicked down the road.  Are we really just going to wait until they die of old age?  Give them a trial, military or civilian, I don't care which.  Hell, accidentally leave the gate open and let them roam into Cuba.
2013-07-18 01:37:40 PM  
3 votes:

FormlessOne: Remember, folks, half of them are innocent - our own government said so - but still in Gitmo because, allegedly, no one will claim them. Every time you read something like this, remember that half of the folks on which these indignities and evils are committed, are as innocent as you or I.


Actually they're all innocent if they haven't had a trial. A silly ideal I know but it is written down somewhere.
2013-07-18 01:51:22 PM  
2 votes:

FormlessOne: Remember, folks, half of them are innocent - our own government said so - but still in Gitmo because, allegedly, no one will claim them. Every time you read something like this, remember that half of the folks on which these indignities and evils are committed, are as innocent as you or I.

Land of the free, my ass. Certainly not the home of the brave, not these days.


The people we're holding who are innocent are from countries like Yemen, where it's easy to be radicalized. We're holding them because we think after being subjected to torture, confinement, and one indignity after another for a decade, they'll join the fight against us. We are literally keeping innocent people in prison because we've tortured them too much to let them go.
2013-07-18 01:35:05 PM  
2 votes:
What good is a lawyer if you're never going to receive a trial?
2013-07-18 01:33:46 PM  
2 votes:
One fact not address is have they ever found any contraband among Gitmo prisoners?

These guys are mostly political  prisoners, not hardened criminals who have learned prison culture from many previous incarcerations.

The only contraband I might imagine is written messages of a non-criminal nature which could be classed as contraband because such communication is forbidden.
2013-07-18 04:44:29 PM  
1 votes:

Joe Blowme: kindms: Contraband ? WTH

These guys have been there for a looong time. They are isolated on a marine base in a foreign country. Who the hell besides the guards would be bringing these guys contraband ?

Are these genital searches conducted between the periods of force feeding ?

How screwed up is that ? Many of these guys would prefer to die than continue to exist in that hell, so what do we do ? we say oh no you are going to continue to live in this hell we have created for you, we will forcibly keep you alive to continue to have you rot in our prison.

really really twisted stuff.

Unlike chopping off head of children and killing women for any reasons they like... but yea we are the bad ones now!!!


The folks who are responsible for acts like chopping off the heads of children are not the folks who have been deemed innocent by the Bush and Obama administrations. Those are the folks we are discussing. Not the folks who are actually deemed a threat. There are a lot of INNOCENT people being held there. They have been cleared for release. Those folks are not being released for political reasons. So you can make up BS about the people there but our own government does not agree with you assessment. So we have innocent men being held for over a decade who would prefer to die than continue to be held in cages while the US decides what to do with them. Instead of allowing them to die their way we are force feeding them in order to prolong their incarceration. If you don't find that f-d up I don't know what to tell you. These innocent men are not even allowed the sweet release of death.
2013-07-18 03:56:30 PM  
1 votes:

Mugato: Has Obama ever been asked point blank why he hasn't closed Gitmo? Is the official reason really that they don't know what to do with the people?


It's the House Republicans fault.
2013-07-18 03:48:32 PM  
1 votes:
Aaah, I see our national shame has returned. I'm embarrassed that we still do this crap.

How about this: we man up and deal with our problems rather than shipping them off to some weird quasi-legal base in Cuba.
2013-07-18 02:24:09 PM  
1 votes:

Mugato: generallyso: Before someone inevitably chimes in about how Obama wanted to put an end to this whole mess, no he didn't. He just wanted to move the victims to a facility located in Illinois. The Obama Administration wholeheartedly supports imprisoning people for life without trial just like the Bush Administration.

Change you can step in.

And how many terrorists have we created who aren't there but are pissed that we're still holding people there? I can speculate too.


We wouldn't need to speculate if we could just vote some Democrats into control of the Legislative and Executive branches.
2013-07-18 02:01:01 PM  
1 votes:

generallyso: Before someone inevitably chimes in about how Obama wanted to put an end to this whole mess, no he didn't. He just wanted to move the victims to a facility located in Illinois. The Obama Administration wholeheartedly supports imprisoning people for life without trial just like the Bush Administration.

Change you can step in.


And how many terrorists have we created who aren't there but are pissed that we're still holding people there? I can speculate too.
2013-07-18 01:54:59 PM  
1 votes:
Contraband ? WTH

These guys have been there for a looong time. They are isolated on a marine base in a foreign country. Who the hell besides the guards would be bringing these guys contraband ?

Are these genital searches conducted between the periods of force feeding ?

How screwed up is that ? Many of these guys would prefer to die than continue to exist in that hell, so what do we do ? we say oh no you are going to continue to live in this hell we have created for you, we will forcibly keep you alive to continue to have you rot in our prison.

really really twisted stuff.
2013-07-18 01:28:00 PM  
1 votes:
disrespectful towards their religion

Your religion is farked up if his has passages about stripsearching.
 
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