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(Politico)   Ted Cruz is a legitimate 2016 threat... to whom?   (politico.com) divider line 171
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2013-07-18 10:08:26 AM
Well, to me, for one, inasmuch as every time this prick opens his mouth, my urge to kill rises exponentially.
 
2013-07-18 10:11:29 AM
Our collective sanity.
 
2013-07-18 10:13:01 AM
America
 
2013-07-18 10:14:47 AM
This probably won't matter to most Latino voters, but, like chicken soup, it can't hurt.

It'll matter because they'll know his father basically bribed his way into the country
 
2013-07-18 10:38:27 AM
Like Buckley and Obama, Cruz has a silver tongue, as anybody who has listened to him on the floor of the Senate can attest


So is Fark only pointing out the few idiotic things he says or does the author of the article have a mancrush on Cruz and can't see his faults?
 
2013-07-18 10:39:47 AM
So, is this, like, Pablo's brother?
 
2013-07-18 10:57:17 AM

spongeboob: Like Buckley and Obama, Cruz has a silver tongue, as anybody who has listened to him on the floor of the Senate can attest


So is Fark only pointing out the few idiotic things he says or does the author of the article have a mancrush on Cruz and can't see his faults?



He's definitely on his way to being the Sarah Palin figure of 2016.  It seems that everyone who supported her as a "true conservative" is doing the same with Cruz.
 
2013-07-18 11:09:09 AM

BunkoSquad: America


We're done here.

Besides, he was born in Canada.  How is he eligible to be president?
 
2013-07-18 11:36:11 AM

ManateeGag: Besides, he was born in Canada.  How is he eligible to be president?


he's not black?
 
2013-07-18 11:38:32 AM
Good sense and the world's snake oil supply.
 
2013-07-18 12:02:56 PM

FlashHarry: ManateeGag: Besides, he was born in Canada.  How is he eligible to be president?

he's not black?


Good point.
 
2013-07-18 01:05:18 PM
He is a threat to anyone who would give him money.

Remember that the Koch brothers and Sheldon Adelson gave tens of millions of dollars - and got nothing for it.


Then again, this is a party where Herman Cain and Donald Trump are considered serious candidates, so I can't rule anything out.
 
2013-07-18 01:37:13 PM

tnpir: Well, to me, for one, inasmuch as every time this prick opens his mouth, my urge to kill rises exponentially.


BunkyBrewman: Our collective sanity.


BunkoSquad: America


And we're done here.
 
2013-07-18 01:41:29 PM
Bruce Vilanch
 
2013-07-18 01:47:58 PM
Well, if global temperatures rise, he'll grow 10x his size, I think.
 
2013-07-18 01:48:35 PM

ManateeGag: Besides, he was born in Canada. How is he eligible to be president?


hey now, Canadians have great banking regulations, universal healthcare and legal pot.

he's just not one of those Canadians

/"What is this? You sing like an old Canadian! That's HORRIBLE!!"
 
2013-07-18 01:49:43 PM
Considering the dumbass things that come out of his mouth, I think he's a bigger threat to himself than anything else
 
2013-07-18 01:51:06 PM

UberDave: He's definitely on his way to being the Sarah Palin figure of 2016.


He may be that crazy, but he's way, way smarter than Palin. The question is how much is a front and how much he truly believes. If he's a true believer in his crazy then he's DOA in national politics because no one outside the Tea Party is that hardcore, but if he is just using the platform to make name for himself and then turns hard center he actually might have a shot, depending on who's up for the Democrats in 2016.
 
2013-07-18 01:54:19 PM

BunkoSquad: America


get out of my head you jerk
 
2013-07-18 02:05:29 PM
Reasonable legislation, the parties working together, compromise, intelligent political discourse
 
2013-07-18 02:17:40 PM

ManateeGag: BunkoSquad: America

We're done here.

Besides, he was born in Canada.  How is he eligible to be president?


Well duh, his mother was born in Delaware. Everyone knows that to be a be President at least 1 of your parents needs to be American. Kinda backs the Birthers into a corner though... Surely they'll be seeing to it that Ted Cruz does not become President. Right? Guys?
 
2013-07-18 02:18:55 PM
He's a threat to the GOP more than any Democratic opponent could ever hope to be.
 
2013-07-18 03:02:20 PM
The US strategic popcorn reserve?
 
2013-07-18 03:02:22 PM

Lando Lincoln: He's a threat to the GOP more than any Democratic opponent could ever hope to be.

 
2013-07-18 03:07:32 PM
His career and his party.
 
2013-07-18 03:07:33 PM
The previous first place winner of the Joseph McCarthy look-alike contest?
 
2013-07-18 03:07:40 PM

nmrsnr: UberDave: He's definitely on his way to being the Sarah Palin figure of 2016.

He may be that crazy, but he's way, way smarter than Palin. The question is how much is a front and how much he truly believes. If he's a true believer in his crazy then he's DOA in national politics because no one outside the Tea Party is that hardcore, but if he is just using the platform to make name for himself and then turns hard center he actually might have a shot, depending on who's up for the Democrats in 2016.


The notion that a candidate can turn "hard center"  and escape his past positions doesn't really hold up these days.
 
2013-07-18 03:08:09 PM
Remember when they said the same thing about Rick Perry?
 
2013-07-18 03:10:25 PM

tnpir: Well, to me, for one, inasmuch as every time this prick opens his mouth, my urge to kill rises exponentially.


BunkyBrewman: Our collective sanity.


BunkoSquad: America


Done in three.  Kudo's, chaps!
 
2013-07-18 03:11:33 PM

Fart_Machine: Remember when they said the same thing about Rick Perry?


Um, no.
 
2013-07-18 03:12:44 PM
Polititroll
 
2013-07-18 03:13:14 PM

nmrsnr: UberDave: He's definitely on his way to being the Sarah Palin figure of 2016.

He may be that crazy, but he's way, way smarter than Palin. The question is how much is a front and how much he truly believes. If he's a true believer in his crazy then he's DOA in national politics because no one outside the Tea Party is that hardcore, but if he is just using the platform to make name for himself and then turns hard center he actually might have a shot, depending on who's up for the Democrats in 2016.


Smarter than Palin? That's setting the bar so low a squirrel could order a drink.

Turning hard-center is not going to work; see etch-a-sketch, primary challenges, RINO charges, etc.

Base won't have it, undecideds don't fall for it.
 
2013-07-18 03:13:49 PM

doyner: Fart_Machine: Remember when they said the same thing about Rick Perry?

Um, no.


Oops.
 
2013-07-18 03:16:18 PM

doyner: Fart_Machine: Remember when they said the same thing about Rick Perry?

Um, no.


I guess you weren't paying attention in 2011. He was the guy to beat. Then he had to open his mouth. I expect Cruz to flame out even faster.
 
2013-07-18 03:18:16 PM
A threat to the  sheetrock walls of the closet he is in...
 
2013-07-18 03:20:31 PM

Aarontology: This probably won't matter to most Latino voters, but, like chicken soup, it can't hurt.

It'll matter because they'll know his father basically bribed his way into the country


Average Latino voter on seeing Ted Cruz's name on the ballot:  "This guy's a citizen because he dad's a dry-foot Cuban, but he and the rest of the Republicans think my brother-in-law should be deported because he's a dry-foot Mexican / Guatemalan / Honduran / El Salvadoran?"
 
2013-07-18 03:21:29 PM
Like Buckley and Obama, Cruz has a silver tongue, as anybody who has listened to him on the floor of the Senate can attest.

I dunno, he sounds like a jack ass to me. He certainly turned in to a stammering child when Reid slowly dragged his balls across his face in front of the nation.
 
2013-07-18 03:23:55 PM

Testiclaw: Smarter than Palin? That's setting the bar so low a squirrel could order a drink.


Haven't heard that expression before, I like it.

Turning hard-center is not going to work; see etch-a-sketch, primary challenges, RINO charges, etc.Base won't have it, undecideds don't fall for it.

Just because Romney, with all the likability of a cyborg, couldn't pull it off doesn't mean it can't be done. Gingrich literally said "those who quote me in context from yesterday are liars" and had people defending that notion.

Cruz is a whole boatload of crazy, but a lot of people will believe "don't listen to what I said then, listen to what I'm saying now" and he has two years to craft his message and polish his speaking habits so he doesn't fly off into crazy town. I don't know that he will, but I wouldn't write him off just yet.
 
2013-07-18 03:24:11 PM
a. There are a lot of Teapers who have reluctantly concluded that Cruz is not "natural born" and thus ineligible to be president. At least they have the courage of their insane convictions.
b. Cruz has ridden the Tea Party crazy train to prominence, but as the case of Marco Rubio demonstrates, he cannot turn "hard center" without being branded a RINO and expelled from the party.
c. Without turning "hard center" Cruz cannot be elected president.
d. Unless the repubs work very, very hard and succeed in disenfranchising large swaths of the electorate. You know they're going to try.
 
2013-07-18 03:27:33 PM
Sanity....Common Sense....Dignity....Decorum...
 
2013-07-18 03:29:47 PM
I dislike Cruz intensely, but I don't underestimate him.  He is a skilled demagogue who thrills his base, the conservative Elizabeth Warren.  He's a serious contender to win the 2016 presidential nomination.

He is very intelligent, which makes me suspect that his political views are calculated in order to win a presidential primary, and to give him right-wing credibility so that he can pivot hard to the center in the general election (with conservatives mollified that it's a ruse).
 
2013-07-18 03:30:04 PM

nmrsnr: Testiclaw: Smarter than Palin? That's setting the bar so low a squirrel could order a drink.

Haven't heard that expression before, I like it.

Turning hard-center is not going to work; see etch-a-sketch, primary challenges, RINO charges, etc.Base won't have it, undecideds don't fall for it.

Just because Romney, with all the likability of a cyborg, couldn't pull it off doesn't mean it can't be done. Gingrich literally said "those who quote me in context from yesterday are liars" and had people defending that notion.

Cruz is a whole boatload of crazy, but a lot of people will believe "don't listen to what I said then, listen to what I'm saying now" and he has two years to craft his message and polish his speaking habits so he doesn't fly off into crazy town. I don't know that he will, but I wouldn't write him off just yet.


All good points, I suppose, especially if we consider anybody with a shred of personality or the ability to work a crowd compared to Romneybot5000.

Still, the notion alone of people like Cruz becoming prominent is frightening.
 
2013-07-18 03:32:38 PM

Captain Dan: I dislike Cruz intensely, but I don't underestimate him.  He is a skilled demagogue who thrills his base, the conservative Elizabeth Warren.  He's a serious contender to win the 2016 presidential nomination.

He is very intelligent, which makes me suspect that his political views are calculated in order to win a presidential primary, and to give him right-wing credibility so that he can pivot hard to the center in the general election (with conservatives mollified that it's a ruse).


Warren? Cruz is the right-wing equivalent of Warren?

Cuban, please.

Also, I'd like to see examples of his intelligence. We heard the same stuff about Ryan, and it was absolute garbage.

I can show you links, in the form of videos and editorials showcasining Warren's intelligence.

If he is her equivalent, show me.
 
2013-07-18 03:34:04 PM
Forgive the typos: my android phone jacks up words when it auto corrects or when I try to backspace anything.
 
2013-07-18 03:34:38 PM

Testiclaw: Captain Dan: I dislike Cruz intensely, but I don't underestimate him.  He is a skilled demagogue who thrills his base, the conservative Elizabeth Warren.  He's a serious contender to win the 2016 presidential nomination.

He is very intelligent, which makes me suspect that his political views are calculated in order to win a presidential primary, and to give him right-wing credibility so that he can pivot hard to the center in the general election (with conservatives mollified that it's a ruse).

Warren? Cruz is the right-wing equivalent of Warren?

Cuban, please.

Also, I'd like to see examples of his intelligence. We heard the same stuff about Ryan, and it was absolute garbage.

I can show you links, in the form of videos and editorials showcasining Warren's intelligence.

If he is her equivalent, show me.


Morons don't win cases before the Supreme court usually
 
2013-07-18 03:35:01 PM
My liver.
 
2013-07-18 03:36:18 PM
He's a legitimate threat to the GOP getting elected to the presidency, that's for sure.
 
2013-07-18 03:38:30 PM

tnpir: Well, to me, for one, inasmuch as every time this prick opens his mouth, my urge to kill rises exponentially.


BunkyBrewman: Our collective sanity.


BunkoSquad: America


And that's that.
 
2013-07-18 03:39:09 PM

Testiclaw: Also, I'd like to see examples of his intelligence. We heard the same stuff about Ryan, and it was absolute garbage.  I can show you links, in the form of videos and editorials showcasing Warren's intelligence.


Paul Ryan is smart, but not super-smart.  If I were to guess, he's in the 95th percentile of intelligence.

Cruz is much smarter.  Top percentile.  Off-the-charts brilliant, according to (liberal) professor Alan Dershowitz.  Graduated magna cum laude from Harvard Law, edited Harvard Law Review.  Yes, I think that Obama is also brilliant.

Elizabeth Warren is more comparable to Paul Ryan, smart but not off-the-charts.
 
2013-07-18 03:40:10 PM
Republicans.  Definitely Rapublicans.
 
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