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(New York Daily News)   Dear former NYC Mayor Dinkins (D), You didn't lose your re-election because you were black, you lost because you sucked at being mayor. Love and hugs, Joe Lhota (R) Candidate for Mayor 2013   (nydailynews.com) divider line 56
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2013-07-18 12:50:32 PM
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I'll get you for this! You hear me? You messed with the wrong man! And don't think you can hide, 'cause you can't! Everywhere you go, I'll be waiting! Because I'm the King of the Night! Let me give you a little scenario: you'll be walking down the street alone, and suddenly you'll feel something behind you! Is it your imagination? Or is it me, David Dinkins, lurking in the shadows, dressed in my black, skintight jumpsuit? I may be old, but I move like a cat! And this cat bites, baby!
 
2013-07-18 12:51:31 PM
Joe Lhota shows he's in touch with what the average New Yorker cares about -- his opinion of a politician who's been out of office for 20 years.
 
2013-07-18 12:51:49 PM
Lets see NYC under Dinkins.
Higher crime
more murders
race riots
race riots with the police ordered not to interfere even as someone was killed and someone was was beaten with his skull bashed open feet away from cops who by their orders from the mayor couldn't do anything and the police only finally got involved after Dinkins decided to see what was actually going on and his limmo was attacked by the rioters.
made racial comments about Jews and Latinos
financial mismanagement and huge debt.

Yup the only reason you lost reelection to a guy who built a reputation as being hard on crime when crime was skyrocketing and there were riots was because you were black. Which is why you even lost the black vote during your reelection, because they were racist against you being black too, right
 
2013-07-18 12:53:34 PM
I see he graduated from the Al Sharpton school of politik
 
2013-07-18 12:53:38 PM
It was the asbestos school scandal that ended Dinkins.
 
2013-07-18 12:55:01 PM
He never recovered from the ill-conceived name tag program.
 
2013-07-18 12:57:17 PM
But, of course, Obama won the election BECAUSE he was black, amiright?
 
2013-07-18 12:58:11 PM
He did gain a ton of support simply for being black--and people were rightfully proud of electing a black mayor in the New York City Area, but he quickly turned out to be a pretty damn awful mayor.
 
2013-07-18 12:59:00 PM
Tribe clip?
 
2013-07-18 01:06:15 PM
Dinkins has a book to sale.
 
2013-07-18 01:08:12 PM

Stile4aly: [snl.jt.org image 200x150]

I'll get you for this! You hear me? You messed with the wrong man! And don't think you can hide, 'cause you can't! Everywhere you go, I'll be waiting! Because I'm the King of the Night! Let me give you a little scenario: you'll be walking down the street alone, and suddenly you'll feel something behind you! Is it your imagination? Or is it me, David Dinkins, lurking in the shadows, dressed in my black, skintight jumpsuit? I may be old, but I move like a cat! And this cat bites, baby!


WOW!!  Epic win right out of the starting gate!!
 
2013-07-18 01:09:33 PM
FTFA: The statement said the city suffered "gross deterioration" on Dinkins' watch, with a "sky-high crime rate, more than 2,000 murders per year, record welfare rolls and violent riots."

It's a good thing they voted him out, or something very bad might have happened.
 
2013-07-18 01:12:47 PM
I'm pretty sure it was because of Lloyd Braun.
 
2013-07-18 01:13:09 PM

Lord_Baull: But, of course, Obama won the election BECAUSE he was black, amiright?


Combined with a weak-ass field of opponents that resulted in Romney as the final option.
 
2013-07-18 01:16:24 PM

GoldSpider: Stile4aly: [snl.jt.org image 200x150]

I'll get you for this! You hear me? You messed with the wrong man! And don't think you can hide, 'cause you can't! Everywhere you go, I'll be waiting! Because I'm the King of the Night! Let me give you a little scenario: you'll be walking down the street alone, and suddenly you'll feel something behind you! Is it your imagination? Or is it me, David Dinkins, lurking in the shadows, dressed in my black, skintight jumpsuit? I may be old, but I move like a cat! And this cat bites, baby!

WOW!!  Epic win right out of the starting gate!!


I think Tim Meadows still has the record for being on SNL for longer than anyone, which is sad.

And not because he's black, but because he sucked as a SNL cast member.
 
2013-07-18 01:18:46 PM

TimonC346: He did gain a ton of support simply for being black--and people were rightfully proud of electing a black mayor in the New York City Area, but he quickly turned out to be a pretty damn awful mayor.


Maybe people should have been rightfully proud of electing the best qualified person for the job regardless of what race, sex, religion they are. Wait, I apologize, what I just typed was racist.
 
2013-07-18 01:19:07 PM
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2013-07-18 01:19:13 PM

The Lone Gunman: I think Tim Meadows still has the record for being on SNL for longer than anyone, which is sad.

And not because he's black, but because he sucked as a SNL cast member.


Did they ever find a successful vehicle for Ellen Cleghorn? Well, then you're as useless as SHE IS! *BLAM*
 
2013-07-18 01:20:17 PM

The Lone Gunman: I think Tim Meadows still has the record for being on SNL for longer than anyone, which is sad.

And not because he's black, but because he sucked as a SNL cast member.


No way I can agree with that.  Went to his stand-up show a few weeks ago; good but not great.
 
2013-07-18 01:20:26 PM

Prank Monkey: TimonC346: He did gain a ton of support simply for being black--and people were rightfully proud of electing a black mayor in the New York City Area, but he quickly turned out to be a pretty damn awful mayor.

Maybe people should have been rightfully proud of electing the best qualified person for the job regardless of what race, sex, religion they are. Wait, I apologize, what I just typed was racist.


If it were possible to know before hand which candidates would do the best job, we wouldn't need elections at all
 
2013-07-18 01:29:42 PM

jedihirsch: Lets see NYC under Dinkins.
Higher crime
more murders
race riots
race riots with the police ordered not to interfere even as someone was killed and someone was was beaten with his skull bashed open feet away from cops who by their orders from the mayor couldn't do anything and the police only finally got involved after Dinkins decided to see what was actually going on and his limmo was attacked by the rioters.
made racial comments about Jews and Latinos
financial mismanagement and huge debt.

Yup the only reason you lost reelection to a guy who built a reputation as being hard on crime when crime was skyrocketing and there were riots was because you were black. Which is why you even lost the black vote during your reelection, because they were racist against you being black too, right


Don't forget the Korean deli where they would put the change on the counter (which is what they do in Korea), which some black folks, who I am sure were 100% non-racist towards Asians before this, boycott the business and Dinkins actually backed the boycotters.
 
2013-07-18 01:29:52 PM

Lost Thought 00: Prank Monkey: TimonC346: He did gain a ton of support simply for being black--and people were rightfully proud of electing a black mayor in the New York City Area, but he quickly turned out to be a pretty damn awful mayor.

Maybe people should have been rightfully proud of electing the best qualified person for the job regardless of what race, sex, religion they are. Wait, I apologize, what I just typed was racist.

If it were possible to know before hand which candidates would do the best job, we wouldn't need elections at all


I agree. Shouldn't we be proud of ourselves (after the fact) for electing a guy/gal that did a good job instead of being proud of electing somebody that may or may not do a good job just because he is not a white male?
 
2013-07-18 01:30:15 PM
 
2013-07-18 01:31:07 PM
Yeah, the fact that Clinton made funds for a ton more cops available after Giuliani took over is Dinkins' fault.
 
2013-07-18 01:31:33 PM
And thanks for the giant parkland-stealing tennis stadium that gets used a whole two weeks a year.

Get cancer, farkhead.
 
2013-07-18 01:34:50 PM

Dafatone: Yeah, the fact that Clinton made funds for a ton more cops available after Giuliani took over is Dinkins' fault.


Maybe Dinkins should have spent less time visiting cop-shooting gangbangers in the hospital to make sure they were OK, and more time using his resources correctly.
 
2013-07-18 01:43:38 PM

jedihirsch: Lets see NYC under Dinkins.
Higher crime
more murders
race riots
race riots with the police ordered not to interfere even as someone was killed and someone was was beaten with his skull bashed open feet away from cops who by their orders from the mayor couldn't do anything and the police only finally got involved after Dinkins decided to see what was actually going on and his limmo was attacked by the rioters.
made racial comments about Jews and Latinos
financial mismanagement and huge debt.

Yup the only reason you lost reelection to a guy who built a reputation as being hard on crime when crime was skyrocketing and there were riots was because you were black. Which is why you even lost the black vote during your reelection, because they were racist against you being black too, right


You forgot that while the riots were going on, he didn't feel the need to disturb his vacation, so he didn't return to work for over a week.
And preventing the police from making arrests of "street level" drug dealers.
And then there was taking OTB, which was bringing in a $40 million a year profit for the city and turning it into a $20 million a year loser in 3 years: The guys couldn't even run a legal, tax-free betting operation!

Yet he's still blaming it on racism. Dude: if it was racism, you would have never been elected in the first place.

I love Dinkins: he screwed up so bad,  he was pushed out by the first Republican to win the Mayor's office since 1945. Not only did he brake a 49 year streak, but he ushered in  Republican rule for the past 19 years. For the life of me, I can't understand why the Democrats never kicked him the fark out of their clubhouse.
 
2013-07-18 01:46:03 PM

LemSkroob: Dafatone: Yeah, the fact that Clinton made funds for a ton more cops available after Giuliani took over is Dinkins' fault.

Maybe Dinkins should have spent less time visiting cop-shooting gangbangers in the hospital to make sure they were OK, and more time using his resources correctly.


Does "using his resources correctly" involve time machines and securing funding for putting more cops on the street years before that funding was available?

Because that's what worked.
 
2013-07-18 01:46:33 PM

monoski: Lord_Baull: But, of course, Obama won the election BECAUSE he was black, amiright?

Combined with a weak-ass field of opponents that resulted in Romney as the final option.


That's the entire GOP...a 'weak field of candidates'...yes, the ENTIRE GOP...
 
2013-07-18 01:47:02 PM
Front St, Staten Island. Went past the Homeport. Needed repairs badly, especially with the Navy being there and using it a lot.

So Dinkins asked the Navy if they had nukes onboard their ships tied up at the Homeport. Navy told him they were not allowed to say. Street surface got worse.

Rudi's in, street get fixed. Ba-da bing, ba-da boom! Na mean?
 
2013-07-18 01:54:46 PM

dragonfire77: monoski: Lord_Baull: But, of course, Obama won the election BECAUSE he was black, amiright?

Combined with a weak-ass field of opponents that resulted in Romney as the final option.

That's the entire GOP...a 'weak field of candidates'...yes, the ENTIRE GOP...


OK, I'll bite. Who was the strong GOP candidate last time out?
 
2013-07-18 01:55:08 PM
I think the first problem was that New York elected a fellow with the last name of Dinkins without a hint of irony.
 
2013-07-18 01:56:12 PM
To give you younger farkers some perspective on the Dinkins administration, I shall refer to a statement made by a friend of mine from NYC:

George W. Bush is the Republican David Dinkins.
 
2013-07-18 02:02:16 PM
Okay, who remembers Dinkins handing out "Don't dis your sis" buttons to try to prevent teen boys from "whirlpooling" girls at the public pools
 
2013-07-18 02:05:04 PM

Arkanaut: Joe Lhota shows he's in touch with what the average New Yorker cares about -- his opinion of a politician who's been out of office for 20 years.


He's attempting to ally himself with his prospective constituents, by offering unsolicited comments about the memoirs of a guy that, unlike Lhota, actually got elected. Lhota's an asshole, trying to grab attention for himself at the expense of his betters.
 
2013-07-18 02:15:48 PM

FormlessOne: Arkanaut: Joe Lhota shows he's in touch with what the average New Yorker cares about -- his opinion of a politician who's been out of office for 20 years.

He's attempting to ally himself with his prospective constituents, by offering unsolicited comments about the memoirs of a guy that, unlike Lhota, actually got elected. Lhota's an asshole, trying to grab attention for himself at the expense of his betters.


Lhota could spend his term painting city hall with his own feces and still be better than Dinkins.
 
2013-07-18 02:23:54 PM

Lunchlady: FormlessOne: Arkanaut: Joe Lhota shows he's in touch with what the average New Yorker cares about -- his opinion of a politician who's been out of office for 20 years.

He's attempting to ally himself with his prospective constituents, by offering unsolicited comments about the memoirs of a guy that, unlike Lhota, actually got elected. Lhota's an asshole, trying to grab attention for himself at the expense of his betters.

Lhota could spend his term painting city hall with his own feces and still be better than Dinkins.


Agreed. See my above comment.

Comparing  Dinkins to a Republican candidate is like comparing Bush to a Democratic candidate: it just doesn't work

And remember: Bush got re-elected. By your own standard, he's Dinkins' better.
 
2013-07-18 02:25:30 PM

GoldSpider: Stile4aly: [snl.jt.org image 200x150]

I'll get you for this! You hear me? You messed with the wrong man! And don't think you can hide, 'cause you can't! Everywhere you go, I'll be waiting! Because I'm the King of the Night! Let me give you a little scenario: you'll be walking down the street alone, and suddenly you'll feel something behind you! Is it your imagination? Or is it me, David Dinkins, lurking in the shadows, dressed in my black, skintight jumpsuit? I may be old, but I move like a cat! And this cat bites, baby!

WOW!!  Epic win right out of the starting gate!!


I am nothing if not a vast database of pop culture references.
 
2013-07-18 02:50:31 PM

ScreamingHangover: jedihirsch: Lets see NYC under Dinkins.
Higher crime
more murders
race riots
race riots with the police ordered not to interfere even as someone was killed and someone was was beaten with his skull bashed open feet away from cops who by their orders from the mayor couldn't do anything and the police only finally got involved after Dinkins decided to see what was actually going on and his limmo was attacked by the rioters.
made racial comments about Jews and Latinos
financial mismanagement and huge debt.

Yup the only reason you lost reelection to a guy who built a reputation as being hard on crime when crime was skyrocketing and there were riots was because you were black. Which is why you even lost the black vote during your reelection, because they were racist against you being black too, right

You forgot that while the riots were going on, he didn't feel the need to disturb his vacation, so he didn't return to work for over a week.
And preventing the police from making arrests of "street level" drug dealers.
And then there was taking OTB, which was bringing in a $40 million a year profit for the city and turning it into a $20 million a year loser in 3 years: The guys couldn't even run a legal, tax-free betting operation!

Yet he's still blaming it on racism. Dude: if it was racism, you would have never been elected in the first place.

I love Dinkins: he screwed up so bad,  he was pushed out by the first Republican to win the Mayor's office since 1945. Not only did he brake a 49 year streak, but he ushered in  Republican rule for the past 19 years. For the life of me, I can't understand why the Democrats never kicked him the fark out of their clubhouse.


19 years? Rudy was only 6. Bloomberg was a Democrat until 3 days before he entered the GOP primary. He is considered America's most liberal mayor and switched patry affiliation to independent as soon as he no longer needed a party affiliation, also backstabbed all four republicans on the city council. Trust me, since Rudy there has been no republic rule in the city. Especially look at the city council today, 4 GOP 41 Dems, the peak of "GOP power" during this period was 5 republicans on the city council and 40 democrats, and today there is no republican to a city wide office, only on Borough president a republican and only 1.5 republican DA's (Richard Brown of Queens ran on both the Repub and Dem ticket). SO what GOP power????? This city is owned and run by the democrats and one rich liberal who thinks he's god and make Trump look humble and sane
 
2013-07-18 03:38:18 PM

PC LOAD LETTER: jedihirsch: Lets see NYC under Dinkins.
Higher crime
more murders
race riots
race riots with the police ordered not to interfere even as someone was killed and someone was was beaten with his skull bashed open feet away from cops who by their orders from the mayor couldn't do anything and the police only finally got involved after Dinkins decided to see what was actually going on and his limmo was attacked by the rioters.
made racial comments about Jews and Latinos
financial mismanagement and huge debt.

Yup the only reason you lost reelection to a guy who built a reputation as being hard on crime when crime was skyrocketing and there were riots was because you were black. Which is why you even lost the black vote during your reelection, because they were racist against you being black too, right

Don't forget the Korean deli where they would put the change on the counter (which is what they do in Korea), which some black folks, who I am sure were 100% non-racist towards Asians before this, boycott the business and Dinkins actually backed the boycotters.


Wait. Why were they mad about that?
 
2013-07-18 03:53:43 PM

neversubmit: FTFA: The statement said the city suffered "gross deterioration" on Dinkins' watch, with a "sky-high crime rate, more than 2,000 murders per year, record welfare rolls and violent riots."

It's a good thing they voted him out, or something very bad might have happened.


They would have just blown the bridges and tunnels, walled it off and turned it into a prison.

/Duke of New York: A #1!
 
2013-07-18 04:34:21 PM
I thought it was because the non-fat frozen yogurt turned out to be fatty...
 
2013-07-18 04:35:04 PM
Dinkins era NYC was awful. Fark you Dinkins.
 
2013-07-18 04:35:26 PM
Lhota is right.

Republicans still suck.
 
2013-07-18 06:19:31 PM

PC LOAD LETTER: jedihirsch: Lets see NYC under Dinkins.
Higher crime
more murders
race riots
race riots with the police ordered not to interfere even as someone was killed and someone was was beaten with his skull bashed open feet away from cops who by their orders from the mayor couldn't do anything and the police only finally got involved after Dinkins decided to see what was actually going on and his limmo was attacked by the rioters.
made racial comments about Jews and Latinos
financial mismanagement and huge debt.

Yup the only reason you lost reelection to a guy who built a reputation as being hard on crime when crime was skyrocketing and there were riots was because you were black. Which is why you even lost the black vote during your reelection, because they were racist against you being black too, right

Don't forget the Korean deli where they would put the change on the counter (which is what they do in Korea), which some black folks, who I am sure were 100% non-racist towards Asians before this, boycott the business and Dinkins actually backed the boycotters.


They aren't in Korea, they are here.  They need to adapt to our customs, not the other way around.
 
2013-07-18 06:39:45 PM

mgshamster: PC LOAD LETTER: jedihirsch: Lets see NYC under Dinkins.
Higher crime
more murders
race riots
race riots with the police ordered not to interfere even as someone was killed and someone was was beaten with his skull bashed open feet away from cops who by their orders from the mayor couldn't do anything and the police only finally got involved after Dinkins decided to see what was actually going on and his limmo was attacked by the rioters.
made racial comments about Jews and Latinos
financial mismanagement and huge debt.

Yup the only reason you lost reelection to a guy who built a reputation as being hard on crime when crime was skyrocketing and there were riots was because you were black. Which is why you even lost the black vote during your reelection, because they were racist against you being black too, right

Don't forget the Korean deli where they would put the change on the counter (which is what they do in Korea), which some black folks, who I am sure were 100% non-racist towards Asians before this, boycott the business and Dinkins actually backed the boycotters.

Wait. Why were they mad about that?


The Koreans were being accused of the "cooties" offense.
 
2013-07-18 06:40:57 PM

Job Creator: PC LOAD LETTER: jedihirsch: Lets see NYC under Dinkins.
Higher crime
more murders
race riots
race riots with the police ordered not to interfere even as someone was killed and someone was was beaten with his skull bashed open feet away from cops who by their orders from the mayor couldn't do anything and the police only finally got involved after Dinkins decided to see what was actually going on and his limmo was attacked by the rioters.
made racial comments about Jews and Latinos
financial mismanagement and huge debt.

Yup the only reason you lost reelection to a guy who built a reputation as being hard on crime when crime was skyrocketing and there were riots was because you were black. Which is why you even lost the black vote during your reelection, because they were racist against you being black too, right

Don't forget the Korean deli where they would put the change on the counter (which is what they do in Korea), which some black folks, who I am sure were 100% non-racist towards Asians before this, boycott the business and Dinkins actually backed the boycotters.

They aren't in Korea, they are here.  They need to adapt to our customs, not the other way around.


It takes time for immigrants to acclimate to a new environment with different customs, it doesn't happen over night. My Grandfather came to America in 1947 from a DP camp and it wasn't until about 1961 that he finally go used to all the American business customs in his butcher shop (to be fair it only opened in 57, took a while till he was able to go out on his own and start the American dream). It takes time and if you live in an ethnic neighborhood it takes longer
 
2013-07-18 06:50:14 PM
I'm not sure how Dinkins is germane to anything now.

This, however, is, and it is not an endorsement for Lhota:

Lhota served in a number of capacities in the Giuliani administration, including as a deputy mayor. And Giuliani has emerged as a high-profile supporter of Lhota's own campaign for City Hall.


Maybe he can run for 9/11?
 
2013-07-18 06:58:46 PM

Job Creator: PC LOAD LETTER: jedihirsch: Lets see NYC under Dinkins.
Higher crime
more murders
race riots
race riots with the police ordered not to interfere even as someone was killed and someone was was beaten with his skull bashed open feet away from cops who by their orders from the mayor couldn't do anything and the police only finally got involved after Dinkins decided to see what was actually going on and his limmo was attacked by the rioters.
made racial comments about Jews and Latinos
financial mismanagement and huge debt.

Yup the only reason you lost reelection to a guy who built a reputation as being hard on crime when crime was skyrocketing and there were riots was because you were black. Which is why you even lost the black vote during your reelection, because they were racist against you being black too, right

Don't forget the Korean deli where they would put the change on the counter (which is what they do in Korea), which some black folks, who I am sure were 100% non-racist towards Asians before this, boycott the business and Dinkins actually backed the boycotters.

They aren't in Korea, they are here.  They need to adapt to our customs, not the other way around.


Not sure if you are troll, but you don't have a bloody boycott to push that along.
 
2013-07-18 09:45:58 PM
Regarding the Korean boycotts and so forth - the name you're looking for is Sonny Carson, who was proof positive that it was indeed possible to be a bigger asshole and a more massive fraud than Al Sharpton, Alton Maddox and C. Vernon Mason in the late 80's and early 90's.

Skip the horseshiat about Korean deli owners not assimilating. Carson was leading protestors around town saying blacks shouldn't shop at stores owned by "people who don't look like us." Basically, Carson was to race relations what Fred Phelps is to religion - except Carson could get thousands of people to turn out for his hate marches, and the idiot mayor had his back.

And Dinkins not only sat on his hands while all this was going on, he  paid Carson. Supposedly it was for campaign work but it smelled precisely like protection money.

So by the time 1993 rolled around, the city's race pimps and their enablers at city hall needed a good swat upside the head.

Enter Giuliani, who was the right man at the right time. His problem was the usual one that gets to people in power for too long - he started treating all opposition as if they deserved the same contempt as Carson, Sharpton et al.
 
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