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(Daily Mail)   'Up to' 760 people have 'perished' in the six-day UK heatwave. It's the Daily Mail... with a masterclass in pseudoscience, misrepresentation, and nonsensical quotes. Photos of pretty girls in bikinis though, so... there's that   (dailymail.co.uk ) divider line
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2013-07-18 11:30:34 AM  
86F?  In Texas we turn off our AC's during that weather.
 
2013-07-18 11:30:39 AM  
www.aqueous-seo.co.uk

Scorchio!
 
2013-07-18 11:30:41 AM  
Anyone else finding the babble from the Yanks kinda amusing?
YOU GIVE STORMS NAMES THEN HYPE THE HELL OUT OF THEM ON THE NEWS, FOR CHRIST SAKE!

`Rainstorm Bertha is on her way! Have you stocked up on milk, Wonder bread & tampons, yet? HURRY!'
 
2013-07-18 11:31:09 AM  

abhorrent1: 86 is a heat wave and people die from it? WTF is wrong with you, England?


Old people, no AC and poorly insulated houses.
 
2013-07-18 11:31:12 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: chevydeuce: I still have trouble understanding how or why people are dying because of 85 degree weather....

My guess? Really high humidity, over 85%.


We call that, "Houston".
 
2013-07-18 11:31:41 AM  
i.dailymail.co.uk
Scorchio!!!

/boutros boutros ghalli
 
2013-07-18 11:31:48 AM  
At least it's not "UP TO 760 OR MORE"...reporters do that all the time and it peeves the hell outta me...

//Aut mode: [OFF]
 
2013-07-18 11:32:53 AM  

Gordon Bennett: [www.aqueous-seo.co.uk image 400x261]

Scorchio!


You did it better than me. +1 internets!

/love me some Poula Fisch
 
2013-07-18 11:33:06 AM  
"pretty girls in bikinis...."

*scroll, scroll, scroll

Fark, I am disappoint

/back in an hour to get this on track
 
2013-07-18 11:34:25 AM  
The warning comes as a massive blaze ripped through an area the size of four football pitches in Mitcham Common in south London today. Around 15 firefighters had to be drafted in to tackle the ferocious blaze, which spread across four hectares of grass and gorse.

What is this, I don't even...

DEATH TOLL OF THE HOT WEATHER
Up to 760 people have lost their lives during Britain's blistering heatwave with figures set to rise, experts warn.
A heatwave death toll has been calculated by the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine (LSHTM) for The Times. Researchers used temperature data supplied by the Met Office and compared the figures with previous studies conducted on deaths during heatwaves in Britain.
They found that between 540 and 760 people will have perished in England alone during the first nine days of the heatwave and warn the figures could easily double in the coming days.
It comes as police and fire chiefs reiterated warnings about escaping the heat by swimming in open water after four people died in separate incidents on Tuesday.
A 16-year-old boy and a 41-year-old man, from King's Lynn, were found dead in unrelated incidents in lakes at Bawsey Pits, Norfolk.
A man, believed to be a 21-year-old from Shropshire, died after getting into difficulties near the confluence of the Rivers Dee and Ceiriog on the Shropshire-north Wales border.
And a 40-year-old woman from Saltash died following what police called a 'medical episode' while swimming in the sea at Seaton, near Torpoint in eastern Cornwall.
Justas Juzenas, 22, drowned at Gullet Quarry, a stretch of water near Malvern, Worcestershire, where 17-year-old Russell O'Neill died on Saturday July 6.
Last Wednesday the body of 14-year-old Hollie McClymont was recovered from the sea near Barry Island in Wales.
The teenager, who was on a family holiday, had been seen three days earlier getting into difficulty while swimming off Whitmore Bay.
Authorities in Northern Ireland last month announced the launch of a new campaign to highlight the dangers of disused quarries after a man drowned in a vain bid to rescue a teenage boy in Co Down.
Colin Polland was trying to save to save 15-year-old Kevin O'Hare, who had got into difficulties when swimming in an isolated quarry near Annalong, but both died.


Sounds like most of 'em met their end because they didn't know how to swim.

LEARN HOW TO SWIM!!!
 
2013-07-18 11:37:21 AM  

squidgod2000: [i.imgur.com image 565x180]

Are you shiatting me?


This is now a story about how the English are not very good at handling high temps.

encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com
you know where it IS hot though?  Mexico.  And they have meteorologists!
 
2013-07-18 11:37:30 AM  

CPT Ethanolic: Pussies.  Here's the thermometer in our barracks window out here in Kandahar today.  In the shade:

[img10.imageshack.us image 800x600]


Ah, but can you comfortably walk around Edinburgh in your shirtsleeves in December, or do you need to wrap up warmly like a wimp?
 
2013-07-18 11:38:13 AM  
86 degrees and people are dying from the heat in England? I don't even make my son wear shorts unless it's 85 out and I'm from Minnesota. Minnesota, you know that place known for it's /cold/.
 
2013-07-18 11:38:24 AM  
It's okay. Air conditioning is killing millions of Americans every day. We don't burn calories sweating off to keep cool anymore. So we're fat...fat..fatty...fat...fat.
 
2013-07-18 11:44:41 AM  

big pig peaches: Must be Jesup punishing the queen for legalizing gays marrying hedgehogs. Or something.


Praise Jesup!
 
2013-07-18 11:45:05 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: chevydeuce: I still have trouble understanding how or why people are dying because of 85 degree weather....

My guess? Really high humidity, over 85%.


According to Wunderground, it is currently 85F and 35% humidity in London, UK.

Kinda pleasant, really.
 
2013-07-18 11:46:22 AM  
Is that man made? It looks man made...
i.dailymail.co.uk
 
2013-07-18 11:46:28 AM  

fireclown: squidgod2000: [i.imgur.com image 565x180]

Are you shiatting me?

This is now a story about how the English are not very good at handling high temps.

[encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com image 270x187]
you know where it IS hot though?  Mexico.  And they have meteorologists!


i1136.photobucket.com
 
2013-07-18 11:46:40 AM  
Up to 760 people have lost their lives during Britain's blistering heatwave with figures set to rise, experts warn.
A heatwave death toll has been calculated by the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine (LSHTM) for The Times. Researchers used temperature data supplied by the Met Office and compared the figures with previous studies conducted on deaths during heatwaves in Britain.
They found that between 540 and 760 people will have perished in England alone during the first nine days of the heatwave and warn the figures could easily double in the coming days.



So they perform a calculation based on temperature data and and studies conducted on previous heatwaves to get the number of deaths?  Could they have gotten a more accurate figure by just COUNTING THE PEOPLE WHO DIED?
 
2013-07-18 11:46:44 AM  

oldfarthenry: Anyone else finding the babble from the Yanks kinda amusing?
YOU GIVE STORMS NAMES THEN HYPE THE HELL OUT OF THEM ON THE NEWS, FOR CHRIST SAKE!

`Rainstorm Bertha is on her way! Have you stocked up on milk, Wonder bread & tampons, yet? HURRY!'


Hey, at least we know how to set the parking brake on our trains.
 
2013-07-18 11:46:51 AM  

TheShavingofOccam123: It's okay. Air conditioning is killing millions of Americans every day. We don't burn calories sweating off to keep cool anymore. So we're fat...fat..fatty...fat...fat.


Sweating to keep cool doesn't burn a lot of calories. Keeping warm when it's cold does.
 
2013-07-18 11:47:00 AM  
Hot in July? Isn't that what its supposed to do?
 
2013-07-18 11:47:22 AM  
Sounds truly awful
 
2013-07-18 11:48:57 AM  
It is 95 here and "feels like" 103. My sympathy for Britain is nonexistent.
 
2013-07-18 11:50:03 AM  

Maud Dib: oldfarthenry: Anyone else finding the babble from the Yanks kinda amusing?
YOU GIVE STORMS NAMES THEN HYPE THE HELL OUT OF THEM ON THE NEWS, FOR CHRIST SAKE!

`Rainstorm Bertha is on her way! Have you stocked up on milk, Wonder bread & tampons, yet? HURRY!'

Hey, at least we know how to set the parking brake on our trains.


About that... Montreal, Maine and Atlantic is owned by an american company. So no. Y'all don't know how to set the brakes on your trains.
 
2013-07-18 11:50:14 AM  
F you England or UK, or Great Britain, whatever you are... I live on Venus where it gets up past 735 Kelvin, but you don't see us getting all dead from it. We deal with it.

Pussies.
 
2013-07-18 11:51:30 AM  

PrivateCaboose: It is 95 here and "feels like" 103. My sympathy for Britain is nonexistent.


'Feels like' indexes are bullshiat. When it's 103 it 'feels like' something else so what's the point? I get just as frustrated when people quote windchill numbers without understanding that it applies only to exposed skin and not, for example, a car engine.
 
2013-07-18 11:52:46 AM  

Russ1642: PrivateCaboose: It is 95 here and "feels like" 103. My sympathy for Britain is nonexistent.

'Feels like' indexes are bullshiat. When it's 103 it 'feels like' something else so what's the point? I get just as frustrated when people quote windchill numbers without understanding that it applies only to exposed skin and not, for example, a car engine.


Maybe, but the fact that high heat and high humidity compound the misery doesn't change.
 
2013-07-18 11:53:00 AM  

Maud Dib: oldfarthenry: Anyone else finding the babble from the Yanks kinda amusing?
YOU GIVE STORMS NAMES THEN HYPE THE HELL OUT OF THEM ON THE NEWS, FOR CHRIST SAKE!

`Rainstorm Bertha is on her way! Have you stocked up on milk, Wonder bread & tampons, yet? HURRY!'

Hey, at least we know how to set the parking brake on our trains.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiWEVns7niY

Buster Keaton was a mean Canadian train stopper.  Just watch the first 30 seconds or so.

That's from the film The Trainrodder that Keaton made in Canada.
 
2013-07-18 11:53:28 AM  

Russ1642: PrivateCaboose: It is 95 here and "feels like" 103. My sympathy for Britain is nonexistent.

'Feels like' indexes are bullshiat. When it's 103 it 'feels like' something else so what's the point? I get just as frustrated when people quote windchill numbers without understanding that it applies only to exposed skin and not, for example, a car engine.


Fine then its 95 degrees and 50% humidity and unlike the rest of America, I don't drive to and from work, but walk and use public transportation. It's hot but you don't see DC being all "zomg 86 degrees and people bare dying from it."
 
2013-07-18 11:55:19 AM  

btraz70: Is that man made? It looks man made...
[i.dailymail.co.uk image 850x761]


wow that "plane" really did take a big chunk out.
 
2013-07-18 11:56:26 AM  

Carn: Russ1642: PrivateCaboose: It is 95 here and "feels like" 103. My sympathy for Britain is nonexistent.

'Feels like' indexes are bullshiat. When it's 103 it 'feels like' something else so what's the point? I get just as frustrated when people quote windchill numbers without understanding that it applies only to exposed skin and not, for example, a car engine.

Maybe, but the fact that high heat and high humidity compound the misery doesn't change.


True. But basing the indexes on temperature just confuses so many people.
 
2013-07-18 11:56:47 AM  

Loaf's Tray: At least it's not "UP TO 760 OR MORE"...reporters do that all the time and it peeves the hell outta me...

//Aut mode: [OFF]


Or this kind of thing: headline "Could an 86 degree heatwave kill 7000 or more people?" (click link) "Not likely."

Use of weaselese also bugs me a little. In TFA, "Up to 760", meaning between zero and 760. Citation: "London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine (LSHTM) for The Times", using methods other than counting bodies.

On the other hand, I really, really love their tendency of adding pics of hot women. I'm all for that in every website.
 
2013-07-18 11:57:55 AM  
95 degrees with 50% humidity in New York City today.  Tomorrow it may go up to 100 degrees.  Last 4 weeks have been like a sauna around here.   85 degrees and 35% humidity sounds like heaven.  Stop biatching, you bunch of pansies.
 
2013-07-18 12:00:26 PM  

Russ1642: Carn: Russ1642: PrivateCaboose: It is 95 here and "feels like" 103. My sympathy for Britain is nonexistent.

'Feels like' indexes are bullshiat. When it's 103 it 'feels like' something else so what's the point? I get just as frustrated when people quote windchill numbers without understanding that it applies only to exposed skin and not, for example, a car engine.

Maybe, but the fact that high heat and high humidity compound the misery doesn't change.

True. But basing the indexes on temperature just confuses so many people.


Yeah.  I agree with you - wind chill and heat index are meaningless, just state the facts.  It's hot as hell and humid too and it's farking miserable so stay inside or in the shade with a cool drink.  For winter it's even simpler "It's farking cold out there!".
 
2013-07-18 12:01:10 PM  
It's been in the 90s for over a week here in DC and the humidity is just getting worse and worse.

I've lost thee chickens already to the heat wave.  They're just keeling over dead.  Three's a big hit to a flock of what was 21.  I'm pessimistic for the next few days, too.  They're all looking pretty beat and I fear more losses.

Latest to go was Kate, who was a Production Red.  They are ridiculously hardy birds, and she was a beauty.  Tall, Long-legged (hence her name) and a reliable layer.  Good natured, even temperament, too.  Gonna miss that one.  She goes in the ground after I get home from work tonight.  And what's more fun in this kind of weather than digging a hole?

Sigh.
 
2013-07-18 12:01:45 PM  

PrivateCaboose: Russ1642: PrivateCaboose: It is 95 here and "feels like" 103. My sympathy for Britain is nonexistent.

'Feels like' indexes are bullshiat. When it's 103 it 'feels like' something else so what's the point? I get just as frustrated when people quote windchill numbers without understanding that it applies only to exposed skin and not, for example, a car engine.

Fine then its 95 degrees and 50% humidity and unlike the rest of America, I don't drive to and from work, but walk and use public transportation. It's hot but you don't see DC being all "zomg 86 degrees and people bare dying from it."


Well we do freak out when we break 100 or have high 90s for extended periods.  I think that's 37.8 degrees British.
 
2013-07-18 12:02:30 PM  
I`m just glad we are going back to the sort of weather we had 40 years ago.

Cold winter, wet spring, warm summer, wet autumn, cold winter again.

Back to the normal cycle after 30 years of the crap one.
 
2013-07-18 12:09:39 PM  

bloatboy: Loaf's Tray: At least it's not "UP TO 760 OR MORE"...reporters do that all the time and it peeves the hell outta me...

//Aut mode: [OFF]

Or this kind of thing: headline "Could an 86 degree heatwave kill 7000 or more people?" (click link) "Not likely."

Use of weaselese also bugs me a little. In TFA, "Up to 760", meaning between zero and 760. Citation: "London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine (LSHTM) for The Times", using methods other than counting bodies.

On the other hand, I really, really love their tendency of adding pics of hot women. I'm all for that in every website.


Me, too. I think photos of...ohhhh...let's say Olivia Munn for instance...should accompany any and all news articles.

media-cache-ak1.pinimg.com
 
2013-07-18 12:10:45 PM  
I`m currently in the UK and it`s not too hot, it`s not too humid, it`s not too cold and there are no clouds.

To all of you suffering in the USA?

legallymadideas.com

I may go out and enjoy the weather.
 
2013-07-18 12:11:44 PM  
bloatboy:
Use of weaselese also bugs me a little. In TFA, "Up to 760", meaning between zero and 760. Citation: "London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine (LSHTM) for The Times", using methods other than counting bodies.

On the other hand, I really, really love their tendency of adding pics of hot women. I'm all for that in every website.


yeah the 'up to' method of advertising is the best... 'kills up to 99% of all known bacteria!'

so up to, meaning anything less than, including... none ?
 
2013-07-18 12:12:14 PM  

Fissile: 95 degrees with 50% humidity in New York City today.  Tomorrow it may go up to 100 degrees.  Last 4 weeks have been like a sauna around here.   85 degrees and 35% humidity sounds like heaven.  Stop biatching, you bunch of pansies.


Seriously.  It was 43 Celsius here yesterday with humidity.

/Montreal
//You will also develop a sore neck from watching the cavalcade of beautiful, scantily clad wimmins
 
2013-07-18 12:13:32 PM  

dready zim: I`m currently in the UK and it`s not too hot, it`s not too humid, it`s not too cold and there are no clouds.

To all of you suffering in the USA?

[legallymadideas.com image 828x534]

I may go out and enjoy the weather.


this. just swung tomorrow as annual leave, ahead of my 8 day holiday in greece starting monday. HELLO SUNSHINE, DRINKING AND MISBEHAVING
 
2013-07-18 12:13:47 PM  

chevydeuce: I still have trouble understanding how or why people are dying because of 85 degree weather....


This. I wish it would cool down to 85 here, I need to get my yard mowed.
 
2013-07-18 12:14:32 PM  

abhorrent1: 86 is a heat wave and people die from it? WTF is wrong with you, England?


Inferior genes. Clearly, we need to be more green like Europe is.
 
2013-07-18 12:15:59 PM  
86?? WTF? You farking Brits are soft when it come to sun. I'm in NH and the sun is my kryptonite, but for fark sake 86? I'm in construction and work out side. Our average up here has been around 92 - 94 for weeks with a crap load of humidity. I been going in at 6:00 and getting the fark out at noon to beat the heat but 86????? Drink some farking Gatorade people.
 
2013-07-18 12:16:28 PM  
If only there were some kind of way that human beings could understand that some other human beings have entirely different tolerance for environmental variations.
Or maybe most do, maybe it's just those that settled on one of the last unwanted clusterfark wildernesses on the planet that lack empathy and understanding. Maybe the descendants of the assholes who decided that settling on a continent with the most severe weather on earth, a place where temperature, wind and rainfall all conspire to make life as short as possible, maybe those guys were so farked up dumb to settle where they did that any resultant generations were in-turn also hit hard and often with the dumb-ass stick and just can't reason that people are different and not everyone lives in a farking oven or an inch above sea level. Maybe anyone that emigrated to that country after drinking the kool-aid in all the movies and songs about how great that country is are dumb too? Maybe everyone who went thru school in that country and had to hand-on-heart pledge allegiance to a bunch of dust and ice with occasional flurries of flying houses, maybe they're dumber than farking hammers too? Maybe everyone in the whole country just doesn't get it that someone somewhere else that wisely chose to live in a non-extreme weather environment gets a bit uncomfortable when it's warmer than normal there.
That'd explain all the derp in this thread anyway. Or maybe it's just bots spewing automated trolling.
I like England, I'm glad they are having a memorable summer, they're nice folk and deserve some quality time out in the sunshine. If you feel the need to call them pussies because you live in an oven maybe consider what that indicates about your life choices, you live in an oven, I'd rather be a pussy than a dehydrated moran.
 
2013-07-18 12:17:13 PM  

jakomo002: Fissile: 95 degrees with 50% humidity in New York City today.  Tomorrow it may go up to 100 degrees.  Last 4 weeks have been like a sauna around here.   85 degrees and 35% humidity sounds like heaven.  Stop biatching, you bunch of pansies.

Seriously.  It was 43 Celsius here yesterday with humidity.

/Montreal
//You will also develop a sore neck from watching the cavalcade of beautiful, scantily clad wimmins


I hear people in Toronto strain their eyes staring at the CN tower...

4.bp.blogspot.com

I know I would...
 
2013-07-18 12:18:15 PM  
Those girls pictured are 26 and 18 and look exactly the same.
 
2013-07-18 12:20:01 PM  

ZzeusS: Yes..  Well the BBC articles give more information.

They don't use air conditioning, only heating registers.  

So surprise heat that can't escape is surprising.

Plus, they have Green initiatives in low income housing that packs a lot of insulation, so that the heat stays in.  Large buildings full of people with no AC, at all, and heat can't escape due to the way it's built.

So.. ovens.

TMYK


This was a fantastic summary.

I'd like to note one more thing: long lasting heatwaves were so uncommon - there was no need to start marketing expensive air conditioning units.

However, the climate is changing. I read a fantastic article about the increased number of vineyards because the summers average hotter temperatures now. Some wine producers are moving their production facilities from the southern France because that temperature has been averaging temperatures that are far too warm to support vineyards.

So, right now it's cost prohibitive to really install air conditioning on a massive scale throughout the UK. But if this warming trend continues - they're going to have to start considering their options.
 
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