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2004-01-08 10:00:09 PM  
I, for one, welcome our new parasite overloads.

/not a typo
 
2004-01-08 10:37:30 PM  
LOSERS
 
2004-01-08 10:56:33 PM  
I guess my 53 y/o brother-in-law is a fashion forward trend-setter. And here I always thought he was just a fat, parasitic farktard.
 
2004-01-08 10:57:39 PM  
I don't know how people can do it. I could never live with my parents again. Heck, I don't even want a roommate.
 
2004-01-08 11:00:52 PM  
I could never ever live with my mother again. I fled the day I could. I'd prefer the streets to that hell.
 
2004-01-08 11:01:38 PM  
And stick them with a RIAA lawsuit...
 
OBB
2004-01-08 11:46:50 PM  
Heh, living with your parents. Unless you're an adult who's actively trying to move out of your parents' house, I would consider you a loser.
 
2004-01-09 01:12:47 AM  
Yea, well, there is something to say about this.
i mean, women find it so desireable that men live with their parents.

now about why the economy has caused this.
ill stop.
OMG what is the brown clouds i see accumulating.
OMG, its a right-left troll shiat-fight a-brewin

if not, coolio.
 
2004-01-09 01:17:01 AM  
Oh stop already.

This was news back when I was living with my parents about 10 years ago.

Used to be a Gen X thing.

Now I Guess It's A Gen Y thing. Or Whatever Letter (TM) We're Up To.

In Other News, Teenagers Think Too Much About Sex.
 
2004-01-09 01:17:14 AM  
Yeah, 'cause 30-somethings getting a free ride in their parents' basement are really motivated
 
2004-01-09 01:19:09 AM  
"if not, coolio."

(singing)
Dreamer, you know you are a dreamer
Well can you put your hands in your head, oh no!
I said dreamer, you're nothing but a dreamer
Well can you put your hands in your head, oh no!
I said "Far out, - What a day, a year, a laugh it is!"
You know, - Well you know you had it comin' to you,
Now there's not a lot I can do...

[/Supertramp]
 
2004-01-09 01:19:44 AM  
News Bulletin:

Young people would rather drink and have sex than work hard.

Stop the presses. I think Attila the Hun will be shocked at this turn of events.
 
2004-01-09 01:22:06 AM  
What a bunch of losers. I left when I was 18 and I'd never go back. A friend of mine actually lived on one of those rental storage sheds for a while rather than move back in with his parents. He said it was a slight step up from a van down by the river.

BTW, I'm impressed! 8 whole posts and not a single one blamed Bush!! Yet.
 
2004-01-09 01:28:51 AM  
If someone is out their ass in debt, working 50-60 hours a week, has no college, flushing $600 dollars a month down the toilet on rent, and still can't make financial progress, stays that way for many years and refuses to move back home because that's what losers do. And another person moves back home for a year, saves the rent to pay off debt, gets some fast technical school so they can move out again in better shape and go to college, who do you think the loser is?
 
2004-01-09 01:31:28 AM  
really though, it's Clinton's fault, with the easy street mentatility we all had way back then. I say, spray liquid pig shiat on the bastards.
 
2004-01-09 01:33:44 AM  
in many cultures, people actually stick close to their families their whole lives. as a matter of fact, this whole "moving out of your parents house" thing is really a young concept.

just another perspective.
 
2004-01-09 01:34:55 AM  
This was news back when I was living with my parents about 10 years ago.

Used to be a Gen X thing.

Now I Guess It's A Gen Y thing. Or Whatever Letter (TM) We're Up To.



It's because the past couple Generations haven't been taught shiat about saving or managing their money, I'd be willing to bet a lot of those are people who got farked by the dotbomb who thought those 800 a week checks were going to roll in forever.
 
2004-01-09 01:35:18 AM  
The parents are to blame. If these spineless parents had actually raised their kids to be self-sufficent the "kids" wouldn't be moving back in. But, they didn't. They indulged the little bastards and now they are reaping what they have sown.
 
2004-01-09 01:39:28 AM  
If someone is out their ass in debt, working 50-60 hours a week, has no college, flushing $600 dollars a month down the toilet on rent, and still can't make financial progress, stays that way for many years and refuses to move back home because that's what losers do. And another person moves back home for a year, saves the rent to pay off debt, gets some fast technical school so they can move out again in better shape and go to college, who do you think the loser is?


I think you're absolutely right. There's no shame in using what resources you have to advance yourself and your familly. But those who refuse to accept responsibilty for themselves and those under their care truly are losers. If you move home to mommy because you're too much of a baby to actually work or you have too much pride to wash dishes, then you deserve all the ridicule you get.

just saying is all.
 
2004-01-09 01:42:15 AM  
Too True, bios303.

I live in Japan and it it's common for people to live with their parents until they get married, usually in their late twenties or early thirties. Even then, one member of the family usually lives in the same house as the parents to take care of them in their old age - retirement years. Yes, there is friction, but people seem to regard it as a part of life.

Having said that, I would rather have my teeth pulled out my ears than move back in with my mother. She is a good woman and all, but our ways of dealing with things are just too different. Although, it looks like the in-laws living with us in the not-too-distant future is a real possibility.

Thinking about that makes me want a beer - or six. Hmm, beer. quittin' times in a little over an hour...
 
2004-01-09 01:43:04 AM  
In other news, the park district by my parents' house is removing the deep areas from all pools, just in case.
 
2004-01-09 01:43:35 AM  
theopco
You're right, especially if the person has dependants and it would burden their parents to take in many people, and they just plain don't want to try to make a living.
 
2004-01-09 01:44:50 AM  
hey gaijin, have a beer for us poor slobs in in the pacific time zone!
 
2004-01-09 01:46:52 AM  
... And another person moves back home for a year, saves the rent to pay off debt, gets some fast technical school so they can move out again in better shape and go to college, who do you think the loser is?

But how many people actually DO that??? Generally speaking, the ones that move back in...kinda like the ones that don't leave, are the ones with a problem in the self motivation area. Most folk would rather bust their ass forever then have to spend six minutes saying "I farked up, I need to start over"
 
2004-01-09 01:49:17 AM  
theopco, no problem. I may even have two for you...
 
2004-01-09 01:50:14 AM  
I think that in order to take over the world you would have to procreate. The one thing I'm sure of is that they won't be making babies unless it is with their sister.
 
2004-01-09 01:51:03 AM  
It's not always the way it seems. I moved back in with mine for a while, but only because they are too old to take care of the property by themselves anymore. I have a completly separate apartment, with its own kitchen, garage, etc. Being in the 'burbs, I don't have to hear all the complaints from the downstairs neighbors whenever I decide to have a couple of dozen friends, or girls over.

I was halfway thinking about having the last area Fark party here, but it is in the fancy shmancy suburbs, and would be hard for many people to get to. I also had to look at the liability, of having 50 people I never met before running around the house and drowning in the pool. I also wouldn't be into checking IDs, or making sure nobody drove when they shouldn't.

I own a house, though I'm not living in it right now, I have it rented out. I'm currently paying rent, but it's pretty cheap considering it includes all utilities plus HBO and RoadRunner. I do all the repairs and improvements (I added a room, re-tiled one of the bathrooms in marble, just because she liked the look better, installed central AC, and a buried lawn sprinkler system among other things) as well as day to day stuff like snow blowing.

I don't have that much contact with them, but we do get along alot better than when I was 17. They're both pretty old now, and the way I look at it, is that I'm getting a head start on improvements to a house I'm about to own. This summer, I want to put in a heated driveway and walks. They pay for the parts, and I do the labor, in my spare time. I do nice work, and it's a realy nice property. With the rent money I have coming in, it won't be long before I can buy another house, as income property.

I'm not embarassed in the least to be living here. I moved out when I was 16, and lived in the Bronx for a few years while I saved up and went to college. I've never had to ask my parents for a dime, even when I was homeless in NYC, at 17. I still made it to all my classes, and don't feel I have to prove to anybody that I'm a big boy, all growed up and on his own. I'm doing well enough financially, that I should be able to retire early. I realize that it's not the typical "run back home and live in mom's basement" sort of situation, I don't actually live in their house, it's a separate rental property, and more of a business proposition. I was invited.

I was living quite comfortably before I came back, but I can see why many are forced to move back. Many kids scream poverty if they don't have Home Box, or can't afford to blow a few hundred a week on sneakers and CDs. But for those who were just starting out, and lost their jobs, or who were sick, or had a drug problem, If given a choice between homelessness, the mission, or mom's basement, the basement wins. A couple of weeks of "living in a van by the river" will cure you of that adolescent rebellion thing pretty quick.

Otherwise, there's no good reason to have to be a burden on your parents once you're 18. Most parents worked hard to get to be where they are, you can do the same.
 
2004-01-09 01:51:36 AM  
Henchmen, yeah the Tramp rocks. I went to 2 of thier concerts in the eighties.
As for the 30 something loosers. Only if your father passed away and mother needed some moral support for a while. And I stress "For a while."
 
2004-01-09 01:53:25 AM  
I feel so for this chica and anyone else who's got to do this at such an age.
 
2004-01-09 01:56:01 AM  
DaCricket
Yeah, I left out the people who show up on the doorstep and say "I give up.". Regarding the "Most folk would rather bust their ass forever then have to spend six minutes saying "I farked up, I need to start over."." thing, do you mean that is a bad or good thing? Depending on how easily the person gives up, I admire a person who humbles themselves to others help provided they are sincirely trying to get themselves out of their slump.
 
2004-01-09 01:56:15 AM  
TommyymmoT
Obviously, you're giving, not taking. I think that shows some real character. I don't think anybody's saying "never live with your parents" as an adult. It's the 30+ baby that gets people peeved.

gaijin
don't do anything I wouldn't do...
 
2004-01-09 01:58:50 AM  
2004-01-09 01:28:51 AM lovehate

If someone is out their ass in debt, working 50-60 hours a week, has no college, flushing $600 dollars a month down the toilet on rent, and still can't make financial progress, stays that way for many years and refuses to move back home because that's what losers do. And another person moves back home for a year, saves the rent to pay off debt, gets some fast technical school so they can move out again in better shape and go to college, who do you think the loser is?


I have a nephew who did exactly this and after three years was able to move out again with enough money saved to put a deposit on a modest house and a new respect for keeping his budget in order without ever having to go to a welfare office.

IMO this is supposed to be what families do for each other in times of trouble but some people are so selfish they could never understand such things.
 
2004-01-09 02:02:37 AM  
I live with my Mom, wife and 20 mo. son and i'm almost 30.

I'm a looser I ask you all?

Oh ya, my wife and I are in the process of building a house...suppose i'm still a looser?
 
2004-01-09 02:02:42 AM  
In other words, there are now more Farkers than ever.
 
2004-01-09 02:06:27 AM  
Rearden

I don't think Bush is responsible, although he, IMHO, is part of the generation that is. Let's face it, the baby-boomers, who had more opportunities handed to them on a plate than any other generation in history, dropped the ball seriously as parents, and it's rippled through to the current generation. My father is a great guy, but when I look for example of what a real man is, I think of my grandfather. The thiry-somethings, and I'm one of them, are one big distributed generation of pussies, and their parents are to blame.
 
2004-01-09 02:11:21 AM  
burkazoid2002
my god I think I agree with you. My grandfather's generation (WWII) had some serious men. However, i don't blame the partial father that I had for the pussy that I am today. That's my fault. Or so my grandfather would have me believe...
 
2004-01-09 02:12:29 AM  
Well, I think we all could probably agree on the following ...

Individual that lives with parents, parties all weekend long, blowing every paycheck without any intention of taking responsibility for him/herself and not moving out = loser.

Some poor freaking recent college grad, being paid the handsome wage of $400 a week by XYZ Intl. Slumlord Corp., saddled with $30k of college debt paying off his/her debts as fast as possible and maybe saving up some money to buy a house minus a bit of pride = person that is going to be on more secure financial footing sooner

I'm 27 and reside with my father. I work government contracts for up to a year at a time outside the country, though, and I think we can agree that there's no sense in my maintaining a dwelling that would probably end up a domicile for crack addicts and homeless people while I'm gone to help "spread democracy." Fortunately, I get along fabulously with my father as we are very much alike.

Back to the point, though, I know more than a few people who've done this, and the majority of them are homeowners today. Then I know a bunch of people that are paying $1000 a month for a crappy apartment just so they can live on their own according to the great american mandate of what shall be, building up no equity, but they'll save enough money to get that house they want in about another twenty years. Idiots.

Enough said.
 
2004-01-09 02:12:42 AM  
My father made it clear to me that I would always be welcome at his house. But I knew that at age 20, he had moved to a new country in the depths of the Great Depression, and, even though he was had a newly minted degree as a Mechanical Engineer, he had to live on the streets for awhile until he could land a job. His first job was working in a weaving mill, tying off broken strands on the power looms.

When he ventured into the world on his own, it was a much different world than the one I stepped into at age 20. Everything was much easier for me. So there was no way that I would ever consider moving back.

I'm doing pretty well so far (house almost paid off, expensive toys without debt, etc.). But I think the best thing he ever provided to me was the idea that I could succeed if I applied myself -- because he showed me that it could be done.

The world is a different place from what it was when I fledged from the nest, but dammit you have to try hard and work hard. If you have to move back, do it -- and think hard about why it happened.

I don't have children (I figured I'd be a bad influence), but I think that today's parents need to spend more time teaching their kids responsibility and determination, and less time worrying about buying their kids the latest crap. What lesson can they learn from things?

My Dad would remind me that if I wanted to continue living in the same style and comfort that I grew up with, I would need to learn saleable skills, and then apply them diligently. Maybe there's not enough of that thinking anymore.
 
2004-01-09 02:17:53 AM  
i could move back in with my mom and finally finish school. instead, i choose to work two menial, dead-end jobs that only get half of my bills paid.

yeah, tell me who the losers are again.
 
2004-01-09 02:18:01 AM  
As an 18 year old who doesn't board at university, I'm giving myself 5 years to clear out of my folks' house (which I currently house-sit while my parents work overseas). Hopefully before then. Coz you can't expect people to move out immediately after high school.

But I have no sympathy for parasites. Especially the ones that spend all day blogging on the net instead of looking for a job.

/stereotyping
 
2004-01-09 02:22:24 AM  
a political flamewar is the outside : this is the inside.
So much more interesting, don't you think?

I think we can close the thread after what Chipper2 said; Case closed.
 
2004-01-09 02:23:01 AM  
Consider this alternative nightmare: Your parents(or In-Laws) move in with YOU!
 
2004-01-09 02:24:06 AM  
Wow, this is a really flameless & civil thread, where people qualify their main examples and silently acknowledge there are many different situations for different people. I'll check back after the 9 a.m. farkers get here and see a shattered stain glass window with dog shiat being thrown back and forth, maybe not.
 
2004-01-09 02:24:58 AM  
The thing that gets me about these stories is the "blame the loser who can't get a job" aspect to it. I know it's TV, but could they possibly dig a bit deeper, either about the people or the overall situation. Was the person crushed by job lost based on a bad economy or because they were crushed with no health care?


Hell yes, I'm going to blame Bush. And not just Bush. All the politicians that are more interested in doing what is right for the special interests and not the majority of Americans.

Every day Bush has been in office, 3409 private sector jobs disappeared.
Every day, 5,114 more people started working part time, because they couldn't find a full-time job.
Every day, another 250 people have stopped being counted amoung the unemployed because they just plain given up on trying to find a job.


Bush is on track for the worst job creation in seventy years.
-http://www.bls.gov/cps/home.htm (U.S. Department of Labor
Bureau of Labor Statistics)

Oh and for the people who say he inherited the recession:

Business cycles are defined by the National Bureau of Economic Research. According to NBER, the recession began in March 2001, two months AFTER he took office.
NBER put out a report in November 2001 that stated that "a peak in business activity occurred in the U.S. economy in March, 2001."

http://www.NBER.org

When Bush came into office we weren't in a recession. We weren't sliding into one. Bush didn't inherit one.
 
2004-01-09 02:25:48 AM  
I've been out on my own since 18 (it'll be 8 years on May 1), and although I've had some financial crises, and had some bad decisions kick me in the face, I've never asked for more from my parents than a couple hundred bucks when things got desperate.

In the meantime, I've learned that nothing in this world is more powerful than good friendship; having like-minded people to be roommates has me prosperous despite an unsteady income that's way below the median.

I have to wonder about people my age who fail at life so badly that they have to run back home to mommy; my own life stands as testament that you can do a lot more than you think with a lot less money than you'd imagine. All it takes is resourcefulness, knowledge of the difference between "needs" and "wants", and a willingness to humble yourself to keep the bills paid. My roommate took a part-time job at McDonald's once (this despite the fact that she has a college education) rather than move back in with her parents.

Going to live with parents is fine and dandy; swallowing your pride to earn your footing on your own is better, and a sign of true Yankee ingenuity and resourcefulness that is all but dead in this country.

And the best part is that I've never been rejected on the grounds that I still lived with my parents (they usually reject me on the grounds that I'm a militant, elitist atheist intellectual selfish jerk pig first.)
 
2004-01-09 02:28:19 AM  
theopco

You make a very good point, and I agree with you. Growing up I had only learned behavior to draw upon, but what I do and am now is directly up to me. The good thing is that what I am now, whether good or bad, can be changed, and that too is up to me. All I can do is draw on what I've learned from my mentors, make the best decision I can, and learn to live with the results.
 
2004-01-09 02:30:38 AM  
Antarctic Fox

Quick note about homeownership vs. apartment rental:

My brother, age 25, owns a house. He's married, has two dogs, the whole middle-class what's-for.

I, age 26, don't own a house, don't want a house, and wouldn't buy a house. Why? Not because I'm a financial reject; because I value freedom as my highest priority, and if economic advantages present themselves anywhere in the world, I don't have to wait for a house to sell or consider uprooting myself; I just pick up and move.

Nothing personal, just keeping the concept of individual situation and goals and such foremost in the discussion. Apartments are not without their perks.
 
2004-01-09 02:32:51 AM  
Lovehate

I agree wholeheartedly. I think this is the most civil Fark thread I've ever read.
 
2004-01-09 02:33:30 AM  
A friend of mine tried to hook me up with this guy , so she gave me his phone number. I called, and a woman answered. I was pissed, thinking this guy had a wife or a girlfriend or something. Turns out it was his mom. Thing is, this guy has a decent paying, stable job. Apparently he is living at home to "save money". WTF??!!! helllllll no. hell no. Living with your parents should be an absolute last resort, and I mean, like you have a choice between wallowing in your own shiat and living with your parents. And even the, you shouldn't live there for longer than. . .a few months.

Somehow it seems a bit more acceptable for girls to live at home, and I guess since alot of girls will end up getting married and staying home anyways, this is a tad more acceptable, but there is NOTHING more frightening to me than a guy who moves back in with his parents post-college. *shudder*
 
2004-01-09 02:34:30 AM  
burkazoid2002
well said. I think people have, at best, limited free will. It takes real effort to change directions or go against the grain.
 
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