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(New York Daily News)   How badly do you have to screw up to be a Democrat listed on a liberal watchdog group's list of the nation's worst governors? Let's ask Andrew Cuomo   (nydailynews.com) divider line 88
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2013-07-18 10:30:45 AM
Though when he runs for president, we'll be assured he's the most liberal lib that has ever libbed. By the completely liberal media, of course.
 
2013-07-18 10:31:52 AM
Huh. I actually haven't heard that much bad about him. He's one of a handful of governors to get tighter gun regs passed.
 
2013-07-18 10:32:54 AM
Quick, send some lube to Maine's gov.
 
2013-07-18 10:33:24 AM
This is how you concern troll.

"Hey, so the gov. of New York who pushed through gay marriage and strict gun control measures, two big liberal issues the last two years, is horrible at transparency. As fellow liberals, you should hate this man now."
 
2013-07-18 10:37:26 AM
Democrats and Liberals have long been at odds over transparency.
 
2013-07-18 10:38:29 AM
Democrat = center right, by and large.  Actual liberals have relatively little use for them other than stopping the outright destructive policies of the republicans.  Obama is center right.  Reid is center right.  Pelosi and clinton could be argued to have been plain-ol-center, but it's questionable.
 
2013-07-18 10:41:57 AM

GoldSpider: Democrats and Liberals have long been at odds over transparency.


ikanreed: Democrat = center right, by and large.  Actual liberals have relatively little use for them other than stopping the outright destructive policies of the republicans.  Obama is center right.  Reid is center right.  Pelosi and clinton could be argued to have been plain-ol-center, but it's questionable.


Unpossible! I have been repeatedly assured that Obama, Pelosi, and Reid are left-wing radicals hell bent on destroying the very fabric of this once great Christian nation! Obviously you are employing Lame Stream MSM government-controlled liberal media talking points.
 
2013-07-18 10:45:37 AM

ikanreed: Pelosi and clinton could be argued to have been plain-ol-center


Which Clinton?
 
2013-07-18 10:45:51 AM
TL;DR
 
2013-07-18 10:46:05 AM

ikanreed: Democrat = center right, by and large.  Actual liberals have relatively little use for them other than stopping the outright destructive policies of the republicans.  Obama is center right.  Reid is center right.  Pelosi and clinton could be argued to have been plain-ol-center, but it's questionable.


In no way is Andrew Cuomo "center-right"
 
2013-07-18 10:48:39 AM
Amateur! If you are really corrupt you have donors giving you Rolex watches and paying the catering bill at your daughter's wedding.
 
2013-07-18 10:59:45 AM
How badly do you have to screw up to be seen as the Republicans best chance in 2016 and then 8 months later have the Republicans try and recall you despite there being no law to recall you?
 
2013-07-18 11:01:22 AM
How bad is your world view when you can't realize liberals don't have to be lemmings just because conservatives are?
 
2013-07-18 11:15:56 AM

cameroncrazy1984: ikanreed: Democrat = center right, by and large.  Actual liberals have relatively little use for them other than stopping the outright destructive policies of the republicans.  Obama is center right.  Reid is center right.  Pelosi and clinton could be argued to have been plain-ol-center, but it's questionable.

In no way is Andrew Cuomo "center-right"


He wants to crush unions. And as a NY politician, I'm sure he wants to privatize Social Security as well.

Conservatism isn't just about hating gays and shooting black teenagers, ya know.
 
2013-07-18 11:17:40 AM

ikanreed: Democrat = center right, by and large.


Not in New York.

A moderate Republican in NY would be a mainstream Democrat most other places. NY Democrats are reliably very liberal. Whatever Sheldon Silver wants, Sheldon Silver gets and woe to any Democrat who stands in his way...but since even that's not sufficiently berserkly spendthrift for certain sectors of New York, there's also a Give The Unions Whatever The Fark They Demand Working Families Party.
 
2013-07-18 11:18:56 AM
Wendy's Chili: He wants to crush unions. And as a NY politician, I'm sure he wants to privatize Social Security as well.

[citation needed]
 
2013-07-18 11:20:26 AM

Wendy's Chili: He wants to crush unions.


The poor dears. They'll have to scrape by on their six-figure tax-free pensions once Cuomo is through with them. Won't somebody think of the 43-year-old retired suburban cops?
 
2013-07-18 11:21:26 AM

cameroncrazy1984: Wendy's Chili: He wants to crush unions. And as a NY politician, I'm sure he wants to privatize Social Security as well.

[citation needed]


It doesn't matter. The Clinton machine is slowly turning. Expect a few dozen of these type stories in the coming two years about possible 2016 candidates.
 
2013-07-18 11:24:56 AM

WTF Indeed: cameroncrazy1984: Wendy's Chili: He wants to crush unions. And as a NY politician, I'm sure he wants to privatize Social Security as well.

[citation needed]

It doesn't matter. The Clinton machine is slowly turning. Expect a few dozen of these type stories in the coming two years about possible 2016 candidates.


How is this connected to the Clinton machine?
 
2013-07-18 11:27:02 AM

Lord_Baull: How bad is your world view when you can't realize liberals don't have to be lemmings just because conservatives are?


It's just classic projection. Garden-variety psychological phenomena.
 
2013-07-18 11:32:02 AM

Hickory-smoked: Lord_Baull: How bad is your world view when you can't realize liberals don't have to be lemmings just because conservatives are?

It's just classic projection. Garden-variety psychological phenomena.



Are you referring to my post or the subby's headline?
 
2013-07-18 11:32:06 AM

cameroncrazy1984: Wendy's Chili: He wants to crush unions. And as a NY politician, I'm sure he wants to privatize Social Security as well.

[citation needed]


Cuomo Vows Offensive Against Labor Unions

A quick googling didn't turn up any public stances taken on SS, but there was this.
 
2013-07-18 11:34:36 AM

ikanreed: Democrat = center right, by and large.  Actual liberals have relatively little use for them other than stopping the outright destructive policies of the republicans.  Obama is center right.  Reid is center right.  Pelosi and clinton could be argued to have been plain-ol-center, but it's questionable.


They're "center-right" if you define outright Soviet-style socialism as the "center" - otherwise, you're COMPLETELY off-base and wrong.
 
2013-07-18 11:34:41 AM

WTF Indeed: cameroncrazy1984: Wendy's Chili: He wants to crush unions. And as a NY politician, I'm sure he wants to privatize Social Security as well.

[citation needed]

It doesn't matter. The Clinton machine is slowly turning. Expect a few dozen of these type stories in the coming two years about possible 2016 candidates.


Are you implying that I'm shilling for Clinton? IMO, she, Cuomo, and Bloomberg are birds of a feather: gay-friendly bankocrats.
 
2013-07-18 11:36:21 AM

tallguywithglasseson: ikanreed: Pelosi and clinton could be argued to have been plain-ol-center

Which Clinton?


I'm sorry, I meant Bill.  Hilary was only a senator and sec-state, important, but not representational of the party.
 
2013-07-18 11:37:48 AM
Look up feckless in the dictionary and you'll find a picture of Andrew Cuomo's ugly mug. The price of gay marriage and mediocre gun control was everything else the Republicans wanted, and making sure that Jeff Klein didn't get prosecuted for defrauding the state through the STAR property tax rebate program. Every state comptroller has said that the program is riddled with fraud and impossible to police in its current form, but Cuomo let it be restarted because otherwise Klein would have rejoined the Democratic caucus and ruined Cuomo's buddy-buddy relationship with the Senate Republicans. We're talking conservatively tens of millions of dollars per year in open fraud.

On top of that, he talked a big game about nonpartisan redistricting, but caved as soon as Senate Republicans told him that making sure New York City voters got equal representation in the Senate would permanently cost Senate Republicans their majority. So instead every New York City vote is worth 7% less than an upstate vote, despite Cuomo promising again and again he would veto any such map.

He's a terrible governor and the state will be better off the second he's gone.
 
2013-07-18 11:39:12 AM

ikanreed: tallguywithglasseson: ikanreed: Pelosi and clinton could be argued to have been plain-ol-center

Which Clinton?

I'm sorry, I meant Bill.  Hilary was only a senator and sec-state, important, but not representational of the party.


You think Clinton was to the left of Obama?

William Jefferson "NAFTAwelfarereformWTOfinancialderegulation" Clinton?
 
2013-07-18 11:41:42 AM

cameroncrazy1984: How is this connected to the Clinton machine?



Wendy's Chili: Are you implying that I'm shilling for Clinton? IMO, she, Cuomo, and Bloomberg are birds of a feather: gay-friendly bankocrats.


Politics Lesson for Today:

Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics was founded by Melanie Sloan, who served on many Congressional committees during the Clinton Administration, ending as an Asst. US Attorney from 1998-2003.

Andrew Cuomo is considered a strong moderate candidate for President in 2016 and would be a serious challenge to Hillary in the Northeast.
 
2013-07-18 11:41:44 AM
Hey, he voluntarily sleeps with Sandra Lee. Obviously, there's something very very wrong with him.
 
2013-07-18 11:43:09 AM

HotWingConspiracy: Though when he runs for president, we'll be assured he's the most liberal lib that has ever libbed. By the completely liberal media, of course.


He đỉdnt get slammed for not being liberal. He got slammed for lack of transparency.
 
2013-07-18 11:46:09 AM

Wendy's Chili: cameroncrazy1984: Wendy's Chili: He wants to crush unions. And as a NY politician, I'm sure he wants to privatize Social Security as well.

[citation needed]

Cuomo Vows Offensive Against Labor Unions

A quick googling didn't turn up any public stances taken on SS, but there was this.


That's an interview from 2010. What has he actually done in the 2 years he's been in office? I live in the state and I haven't seen anything.
 
2013-07-18 11:47:52 AM

WTF Indeed: cameroncrazy1984: How is this connected to the Clinton machine?


Wendy's Chili: Are you implying that I'm shilling for Clinton? IMO, she, Cuomo, and Bloomberg are birds of a feather: gay-friendly bankocrats.

Politics Lesson for Today:

Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics was founded by Melanie Sloan, who served on many Congressional committees during the Clinton Administration, ending as an Asst. US Attorney from 1998-2003.

Andrew Cuomo is considered a strong moderate candidate for President in 2016 and would be a serious challenge to Hillary in the Northeast.


slurmed.com

If Clinton does face a challenge, it's not going to be from someone who is ideologically identical to her.

/O'Malley '16!
 
2013-07-18 11:48:36 AM

cameroncrazy1984: WTF Indeed: cameroncrazy1984: Wendy's Chili: He wants to crush unions. And as a NY politician, I'm sure he wants to privatize Social Security as well.

[citation needed]

It doesn't matter. The Clinton machine is slowly turning. Expect a few dozen of these type stories in the coming two years about possible 2016 candidates.

How is this connected to the Clinton machine?


The same way the Jews control the media.
 
2013-07-18 11:50:14 AM

Wendy's Chili: WTF Indeed: cameroncrazy1984: Wendy's Chili: He wants to crush unions. And as a NY politician, I'm sure he wants to privatize Social Security as well.

[citation needed]

It doesn't matter. The Clinton machine is slowly turning. Expect a few dozen of these type stories in the coming two years about possible 2016 candidates.

Are you implying that I'm shilling for Clinton? IMO, she, Cuomo, and Bloomberg are birds of a feather: gay-friendly bankocrats.


I like that term.

If gays can get legally married, more gays will have weddings.  Gays are fabulous.  Their weddings will be more likely to be fabulous.  Fabulous costs money.  Banks loan money.  Banks like gay marriage.  Democrats like gay marriage.  Bankocrats.
 
2013-07-18 11:52:09 AM

cameroncrazy1984: Wendy's Chili: cameroncrazy1984: Wendy's Chili: He wants to crush unions. And as a NY politician, I'm sure he wants to privatize Social Security as well.

[citation needed]

Cuomo Vows Offensive Against Labor Unions

A quick googling didn't turn up any public stances taken on SS, but there was this.

That's an interview from 2010. What has he actually done in the 2 years he's been in office? I live in the state and I haven't seen anything.


Pensions, delegate lists, charter schools, blah blah blah... Do your own homework.
 
2013-07-18 11:52:10 AM

Wendy's Chili: If Clinton does face a challenge, it's not going to be from someone who is ideologically identical to her.

/O'Malley '16!


Clinton faced a challenged from someone ideologically identical to her in 2008. How did that go for her?
 
2013-07-18 11:53:38 AM

Xanadone: Hey, he voluntarily sleeps with Sandra Lee. Obviously, there's something very very wrong with him.


Why did I read that as Sara Lee?
 
2013-07-18 11:56:07 AM

WTF Indeed: Wendy's Chili: If Clinton does face a challenge, it's not going to be from someone who is ideologically identical to her.

/O'Malley '16!

Clinton faced a challenged from someone ideologically identical to her in 2008. How did that go for her?


1) Clinton is a much stronger candidate this time around.

2) Regardless of where you believe his heart truly lies, it's undeniable that Obama ran to the left of Clinton.
 
2013-07-18 11:56:43 AM

Xanadone: Hey, he voluntarily sleeps with Sandra Lee.


How noble of him not to avail himself of the bounties provided by the Sheldon Silver Nublie Intern Procurement Program (SSNIPP).
 
2013-07-18 11:57:27 AM

Kevin72: Xanadone: Hey, he voluntarily sleeps with Sandra Lee. Obviously, there's something very very wrong with him.

Why did I read that as Sara Lee?


You were thinking of Chris Christie?
 
2013-07-18 11:58:41 AM

Wendy's Chili: Pensions, delegate lists, charter schools, blah blah blah... Do your own homework.


How about you back up your own assertions?
 
2013-07-18 12:00:21 PM

cameroncrazy1984: Wendy's Chili: Pensions, delegate lists, charter schools, blah blah blah... Do your own homework.

How about you back up your own assertions?


I already did. If you want more there's a sea of information out there called the internet.
 
2013-07-18 12:00:29 PM
He's wishy washy on fracking.
 
2013-07-18 12:01:34 PM

WTF Indeed: Wendy's Chili: If Clinton does face a challenge, it's not going to be from someone who is ideologically identical to her.

/O'Malley '16!

Clinton faced a challenged from someone ideologically identical to her in 2008. How did that go for her?


Ideologically the same except for the one issue that mattered: Ending Bush's insanity. Obama vowed to end the war in Iraq; Hillary met with the Bushman himself to talk about perpetuating our involvement in Iraq. I know that was the issue that had me campaign for Obama not just in my state, but volunteer calling to other states' primaries.
 
2013-07-18 12:03:53 PM

Wendy's Chili: cameroncrazy1984: Wendy's Chili: Pensions, delegate lists, charter schools, blah blah blah... Do your own homework.

How about you back up your own assertions?

I already did. If you want more there's a sea of information out there called the internet.


So your evidence for all this union busting is an interview from before he was governor, saying that he'd loosen the dysfunction in Albany by not kowtowing to the unions' every demand?

That's a pretty strong case, there.
 
2013-07-18 12:12:42 PM

cameroncrazy1984: Wendy's Chili: cameroncrazy1984: Wendy's Chili: Pensions, delegate lists, charter schools, blah blah blah... Do your own homework.

How about you back up your own assertions?

I already did. If you want more there's a sea of information out there called the internet.

So your evidence for all this union busting is an interview from before he was governor, saying that he'd loosen the dysfunction in Albany by not kowtowing to the unions' every demand?

That's a pretty strong case, there.


If you were half as interested in the information you claim to seek as you are in having me look it up for you, you'd have had it an hour ago.
Just google "cuomo" and "union" or "labor". It's not hard, I swear.
 
2013-07-18 12:16:21 PM
Andrew Cuomo can eat a bowl of dicks. He made his bones deriding  university administrators for problems in student loans, and when Obama changed the regulations, he was no where to be found. fark him.
 
2013-07-18 12:16:42 PM

Gulper Eel: Wendy's Chili: He wants to crush unions.

The poor dears. They'll have to scrape by on their six-figure tax-free pensions once Cuomo is through with them. Won't somebody think of the 43-year-old retired suburban cops?


Here's a dare for you: Go be a cop in "suburban" New York for 20 years, then come back and biatch like a little girl about the pension.

DARE YA
 
2013-07-18 12:19:35 PM

mediablitz: Gulper Eel: Wendy's Chili: He wants to crush unions.

The poor dears. They'll have to scrape by on their six-figure tax-free pensions once Cuomo is through with them. Won't somebody think of the 43-year-old retired suburban cops?

Here's a dare for you: Go be a cop in "suburban" New York for 20 years, then come back and biatch like a little girl about the pension.

DARE YA


You're wasting your breath. Rightists hate working people and especially hate working people getting themselves a reasonable deal and nothing you can say will change their minds.
 
2013-07-18 12:24:37 PM

Wendy's Chili: ikanreed: tallguywithglasseson: ikanreed: Pelosi and clinton could be argued to have been plain-ol-center

Which Clinton?

I'm sorry, I meant Bill.  Hilary was only a senator and sec-state, important, but not representational of the party.

You think Clinton was to the left of Obama?

William Jefferson "NAFTAwelfarereformWTOfinancialderegulation" Clinton?


"To the left of" is a misnomer. "Not as far right as" would be better.

I'm thinking it's a tough call which of the two is more to the right. You have banker loving, drone loving Obama in a much more gay-friendly climate.
 
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