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2013-07-18 09:22:23 AM  
While I of course don't believe that 2 of every living creature once lived on a boat, it is interesting that so many ancient tales speak of a great flood.  Everywhere from Gilgamesh to the old stories of Native Americans.  Could it be that an asteroid caused a mega-tsunami seen around the world?  Or maybe it's just that every culture had experienced some pretty gnarly floods at one point in time.
 
2013-07-18 09:48:14 AM  
www.atomicnerds.com

SAVE THE BOOBIES!!
 
2013-07-18 09:52:06 AM  
How do you carbon date a metaphor?
 
2013-07-18 09:52:53 AM  

nekom: While I of course don't believe that 2 of every living creature once lived on a boat, it is interesting that so many ancient tales speak of a great flood.  Everywhere from Gilgamesh to the old stories of Native Americans.  Could it be that an asteroid caused a mega-tsunami seen around the world?  Or maybe it's just that every culture had experienced some pretty gnarly floods at one point in time.


See Jung and archetypes.

Common symbolic themes in our mythologies.
 
2013-07-18 09:53:39 AM  

Diogenes: How do you carbon date a metaphor?


The word you were looking for is myth.
 
2013-07-18 09:55:30 AM  

b2theory: Diogenes: How do you carbon date a metaphor?

The word you were looking for is myth.


The tale is a myth.  The ark itself is a metaphor within.
 
2013-07-18 09:56:38 AM  

Diogenes: nekom: While I of course don't believe that 2 of every living creature once lived on a boat, it is interesting that so many ancient tales speak of a great flood.  Everywhere from Gilgamesh to the old stories of Native Americans.  Could it be that an asteroid caused a mega-tsunami seen around the world?  Or maybe it's just that every culture had experienced some pretty gnarly floods at one point in time.

See Jung and archetypes.

Common symbolic themes in our mythologies.


No way! Dragons are real. How else would every civilization have mythical dragons?
 
2013-07-18 09:56:56 AM  

nekom: While I of course don't believe that 2 of every living creature once lived on a boat, it is interesting that so many ancient tales speak of a great flood.  Everywhere from Gilgamesh to the old stories of Native Americans.  Could it be that an asteroid caused a mega-tsunami seen around the world?  Or maybe it's just that every culture had experienced some pretty gnarly floods at one point in time.


Or maybe most civilizations were built near water and at some point in all their histories there was a flood of some sort. Or maybe a drunk gathered two of every creature on the planet, even those we haven't even discovered yet and got them to fark on a boat because God wanted a do-over. It could go either way.
 
2013-07-18 10:01:15 AM  
Mugato:
Or maybe most civilizations were built near water and at some point in all their histories there was a flood of some sort.

That's probably the case, civilizations certainly did revolve around water, and in a time before locks and dams I'm sure floods were even worse than they are today.  I've also heard it suggested that perhaps the Mediterranean sea was once empty, and the strait of Gibralter breached, but I don't think any serious scientists believe that.
 
2013-07-18 10:04:32 AM  

nekom: Mugato:
Or maybe most civilizations were built near water and at some point in all their histories there was a flood of some sort.

That's probably the case, civilizations certainly did revolve around water, and in a time before locks and dams I'm sure floods were even worse than they are today.  I've also heard it suggested that perhaps the Mediterranean sea was once empty, and the strait of Gibralter breached, but I don't think any serious scientists believe that.


The volcanic explosion of Santorini is suspected of having caused widespread changes to the geography of the region.  I read an interesting piece that tried to correlate the cascading effects with the biblical parting of the Red Sea and plagues of Egypt.  Not sure if I buy it, but it was pretty interesting to consider.
 
2013-07-18 10:19:01 AM  

Diogenes: b2theory: Diogenes: How do you carbon date a metaphor?

The word you were looking for is myth.

The tale is a myth.  The ark itself is a metaphor within.


A crappy metaphor is a metaphor... I guess
 
2013-07-18 10:19:24 AM  
The animals thing aside, it'd be pretty hard to flood the entire world except one mountain in only 40 days of rain. The grand canyon alone would be impossible to fill. Waterworld was not a documentary.
 
2013-07-18 10:19:52 AM  

b2theory: Diogenes: b2theory: Diogenes: How do you carbon date a metaphor?

The word you were looking for is myth.

The tale is a myth.  The ark itself is a metaphor within.

A crappy metaphor is a metaphor... I guess


Take it up with the author ;-)
 
2013-07-18 10:19:53 AM  

Diogenes: nekom: Mugato:
Or maybe most civilizations were built near water and at some point in all their histories there was a flood of some sort.

That's probably the case, civilizations certainly did revolve around water, and in a time before locks and dams I'm sure floods were even worse than they are today.  I've also heard it suggested that perhaps the Mediterranean sea was once empty, and the strait of Gibralter breached, but I don't think any serious scientists believe that.

The volcanic explosion of Santorini is suspected of having caused widespread changes to the geography of the region.  I read an interesting piece that tried to correlate the cascading effects with the biblical parting of the Red Sea and plagues of Egypt.  Not sure if I buy it, but it was pretty interesting to consider.


I'd be more worried about the effects of explosive Semprini...
 
2013-07-18 10:21:34 AM  
So I guess this chick ain't pretty enough for people to post pictures of her?
 
2013-07-18 10:23:30 AM  

Mugato: The animals thing aside, it'd be pretty hard to flood the entire world except one mountain in only 40 days of rain. The grand canyon alone would be impossible to fill. Waterworld was not a documentary.


Well, think along the lines of the Mediterranean abruptly filling in.  That could conceivably take 40 days, and that may have been the entire known world.  Something along those lines isn't impossible.  Or did you ever think maybe aliens?
 
2013-07-18 10:23:57 AM  

nekom: Mugato:
Or maybe most civilizations were built near water and at some point in all their histories there was a flood of some sort.

That's probably the case, civilizations certainly did revolve around water, and in a time before locks and dams I'm sure floods were even worse than they are today.  I've also heard it suggested that perhaps the Mediterranean sea was once empty, and the strait of Gibralter breached, but I don't think any serious scientists believe that.



No, that probably happened, but way too far back to have any impact on human mythology. We're talking around 5.3 MYA when the Zanclean flood most likely refilled the Med. You might be thinking of the Black Sea deluge hypothesis, which has come under increased criticism in recent years.
 
2013-07-18 10:24:15 AM  

jaylectricity: So I guess this chick ain't pretty enough for people to post pictures of her?


I'm guessing a 45 year old blond who spent much of her career in the sun is going to be pretty busted. I could be wrong.
 
2013-07-18 10:24:57 AM  

Diogenes: b2theory: Diogenes: b2theory: Diogenes: How do you carbon date a metaphor?

The word you were looking for is myth.

The tale is a myth.  The ark itself is a metaphor within.

A crappy metaphor is a metaphor... I guess

Take it up with the author ;-)


The Bronze Age guy who wrote down the oral tradition of middle eastern peasants?
 
2013-07-18 10:30:21 AM  

Mugato: The animals thing aside, it'd be pretty hard to flood the entire world except one mountain in only 40 days of rain. The grand canyon alone would be impossible to fill. Waterworld was not a documentary.


That's your only issue with the flood? How about the fact that there isn't enough water on the planet to make such a thing happen. There isn't enough moisture in the atmosphere to raise the oceans by 2 inches let alone hundreds to thousands of feet.
 
2013-07-18 10:35:06 AM  

b2theory: Mugato: The animals thing aside, it'd be pretty hard to flood the entire world except one mountain in only 40 days of rain. The grand canyon alone would be impossible to fill. Waterworld was not a documentary.

That's your only issue with the flood? How about the fact that there isn't enough water on the planet to make such a thing happen. There isn't enough moisture in the atmosphere to raise the oceans by 2 inches let alone hundreds to thousands of feet.


"There was 4,000 years ago" or "You can't put constraints on God" are the obvious retorts.
 
2013-07-18 10:36:12 AM  
Additionally, the idea of a god who would just one day decide to up and murder every living thing on the planet seems incredibly horrific to me, but I guess fundamentalists don't have a problem loving that kind of deity.
 
2013-07-18 10:36:23 AM  

b2theory: Mugato: The animals thing aside, it'd be pretty hard to flood the entire world except one mountain in only 40 days of rain. The grand canyon alone would be impossible to fill. Waterworld was not a documentary.

That's your only issue with the flood? How about the fact that there isn't enough water on the planet to make such a thing happen. There isn't enough moisture in the atmosphere to raise the oceans by 2 inches let alone hundreds to thousands of feet.


But god can make as much rain as he wants, as quick as he wants, then dry it away with his almighty hair dryer.
 
2013-07-18 10:36:36 AM  
She was going to look for the Golden Fleece, but settled on the rube fleece.
 
2013-07-18 10:37:05 AM  
Noah ran a floating whorehouse up and down Mesopotamia.
 
2013-07-18 10:37:11 AM  

b2theory: Mugato: The animals thing aside, it'd be pretty hard to flood the entire world except one mountain in only 40 days of rain. The grand canyon alone would be impossible to fill. Waterworld was not a documentary.

That's your only issue with the flood? How about the fact that there isn't enough water on the planet to make such a thing happen. There isn't enough moisture in the atmosphere to raise the oceans by 2 inches let alone hundreds to thousands of feet.


The Bible pretty explicitly explains the melted status of the polar ice caps as well as the generally larger amount of water on Earth at the time that has since been transported to another galaxy.
 
2013-07-18 10:37:41 AM  
Didn't have to flood the whole Earth. Just the parts that people back then believed was the whole Earth.
Anyway, whatever. It's not hurting anyone. Go for it, girl. Live your dream.
 
2013-07-18 10:38:29 AM  
She also would like to find irrefutable proof that the ark was real and not a myth.

and i would like to find a winning powerball ticket in my wallet. the difference? i actually have a chance at having my wish come true.
 
2013-07-18 10:39:23 AM  

jaylectricity: So I guess this chick ain't pretty enough for people to post pictures of her?


I had to GIS her to find out who she is, and no.
 
2013-07-18 10:39:26 AM  
Sybarite:
No, that probably happened, but way too far back to have any impact on human mythology. We're talking around 5.3 MYA when the Zanclean flood most likely refilled the Med. You might be thinking of the Black Sea deluge hypothesis, which has come under increased criticism in recent years.

Well if it was 5.3MYA definitely not.  Anatomically modern humans go back to, what close to 200,000 years tops?  I'm just speculating, I think that most myths are based on at least some truths, and there have been many catastrophic events in human history that surely could have been seen as religious omens in their time, enough to spin a tale from to pass down through the generations.
 
2013-07-18 10:39:51 AM  

Diogenes: The volcanic explosion of Santorini is suspected of having caused widespread changes to the geography of the region. I read an interesting piece that tried to correlate the cascading effects with the biblical parting of the Red Sea and plagues of Egypt. Not sure if I buy it, but it was pretty interesting to consider.


Don't be silly, Velikovsky explained how all the biblical events were caused by a giant asteroid passing by earth (and then becoming Venus).
 
2013-07-18 10:40:51 AM  

error 303: b2theory: Mugato: The animals thing aside, it'd be pretty hard to flood the entire world except one mountain in only 40 days of rain. The grand canyon alone would be impossible to fill. Waterworld was not a documentary.

That's your only issue with the flood? How about the fact that there isn't enough water on the planet to make such a thing happen. There isn't enough moisture in the atmosphere to raise the oceans by 2 inches let alone hundreds to thousands of feet.

"There was 4,000 years ago" or "You can't put constraints on God" are the obvious retorts.


I assumed I wasn't talking to a Bible literalist based on his/her statement.

If you hear the comments you suggested you can move on. There is no point in arguing with someone who isn't interested in an adult conversation/reality.
 
2013-07-18 10:40:59 AM  
Anyone who gives to this doesn't deserve to have money.
 
2013-07-18 10:42:45 AM  
She was featured in the very first of the dozens of Playboy I shoplifted from Waldenbooks.
 
2013-07-18 10:46:26 AM  
Two ants and two anteaters.
 
2013-07-18 10:46:45 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: She was going to look for the Golden Fleece, but settled on the rube fleece.


I'd rube her Golden Fleece, if you know what I'm saying, and I think that you do.  Seriously, that Playboy showed me that 'Golden Fleeces' were a real thing.  Prior to that my extensive research at The Friday After Dark Institute of Masterbatory Studies at Cinemax University led me to the belief that they were all brunette 'down there.'
 
2013-07-18 10:48:03 AM  

nekom: While I of course don't believe that 2 of every living creature once lived on a boat, it is interesting that so many ancient tales speak of a great flood.  Everywhere from Gilgamesh to the old stories of Native Americans.  Could it be that an asteroid caused a mega-tsunami seen around the world?   Or maybe it's just that every culture had experienced some pretty gnarly floods at one point in time.


Bingo.
 
2013-07-18 10:50:56 AM  

biyaaatci: She was featured in the very first of the dozens of Playboy I shoplifted from Waldenbooks.


An old tradition I remember well ... but you might have to explain to some of the younger folks 'round here what at least two of those words mean, and why it was necessary in the first place.
 
2013-07-18 10:54:31 AM  

biyaaatci: She was featured in the very first of the dozens of Playboy I shoplifted from Waldenbooks.


Those were the days... when those magazines were simply on the highest part of the magazine racks instead of behind the counter like they are now. Not that it matters much these days since there is really no reason to pay for porn... especially not the generic naked women kind Playboy produces.
 
2013-07-18 10:55:52 AM  

nekom: While I of course don't believe that 2 of every living creature once lived on a boat, it is interesting that so many ancient tales speak of a great flood.  Everywhere from Gilgamesh to the old stories of Native Americans.  Could it be that an asteroid caused a mega-tsunami seen around the world?  Or maybe it's just that every culture had experienced some pretty gnarly floods at one point in time.


Also, Jedi really existed a long time ago.
 
2013-07-18 11:04:25 AM  
Here I am.

I'm ready for my close-up, Ms. D'Errico . . .
 
2013-07-18 11:07:32 AM  
www.ivillage.ca
 
2013-07-18 11:08:39 AM  

noazark: Here I am.

I'm ready for my close-up, Ms. D'Errico . . .


http://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQE98D2aVixtYI7vN m fA-yWlE6jLuBSfDWJfyDy2zC02s3Pv6IAMA

NSFW - here is the close up shot
 
2013-07-18 11:08:51 AM  
if she was doing "real" research on this, she would point out that the story comes from Pre Hebrew myths and go back as far as she can to earlier civilizations to look at their great flood myths.  or she can be an Ultra Orthodox Christian and go wandering around in the Anatolian region trying to prove that no one had mythology prior to the Jews.
 
2013-07-18 11:09:36 AM  
If the world flooded, where did the water recede to?
 
2013-07-18 11:14:18 AM  

Disgruntled Goat: If the world flooded, where did the water recede to?


Believe it or not, there are quite a few creationists who believe that the water wasn't rain, it was a canopy that came down.  A literal canopy of water suspended in the air somehow.  I guess that's how Methuzala lived to be over 900, good UV shielding.  So the water didn't recede, it must have evaporated back to the canopy, then god threw it out into space.

Checkmate, atheists.
 
2013-07-18 11:14:20 AM  
I'd link the Joe Rogan stand up bit on Noahs Ark but the only videos I can find are ones recorded with what I can only assume is a BETA.
 
2013-07-18 11:15:34 AM  
Now I know how to fund my quest to find the Jersey Devil! If enough sucker... I mean enthusiasts contribute I can also solve that pesky retirement problem...
 
2013-07-18 11:15:43 AM  

error 303: b2theory: Mugato: The animals thing aside, it'd be pretty hard to flood the entire world except one mountain in only 40 days of rain. The grand canyon alone would be impossible to fill. Waterworld was not a documentary.

That's your only issue with the flood? How about the fact that there isn't enough water on the planet to make such a thing happen. There isn't enough moisture in the atmosphere to raise the oceans by 2 inches let alone hundreds to thousands of feet.

"There was 4,000 years ago" or "You can't put constraints on God" are the obvious retorts.


That's the main problem when trying to reason with people who treat the Bible like historically and scientifically accurate text - any holes in their argument is easily patched by saying "GOD DID IT!"
 
2013-07-18 11:17:26 AM  
She's hot, but not "finance a search for the ark" hawt.
 
2013-07-18 11:18:21 AM  
I should do a kickstarter to find Jack's beanstalk. I hear it reached all the way up to the clouds where giants lived. If we're looking for make believe thing a clue where the golden goose lives is more useful.
 
2013-07-18 11:21:10 AM  

nekom: While I of course don't believe that 2 of every living creature once lived on a boat, it is interesting that so many ancient tales speak of a great flood.  Everywhere from Gilgamesh to the old stories of Native Americans.  Could it be that an asteroid caused a mega-tsunami seen around the world?  Or maybe it's just that every culture had experienced some pretty gnarly floods at one point in time.


Common shared experience. Civilizations form near sources of water. Sources of water can flood. Floods kill people and the story grows.
 
2013-07-18 11:21:55 AM  

Disgruntled Goat: If the world flooded, where did the water recede to?


It simply flowed back into the Abyss of Waters.

Here's a technical schematic that illustrates this question (warning - science content ahead):

photos1.blogger.com
 
2013-07-18 11:24:32 AM  

Found it!




It was in a parking lot all along.

 
2013-07-18 11:25:15 AM  
diagoras.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-07-18 11:25:41 AM  
She can stop looking for the Ark. It's being handled by top men.

TOP MEN.
 
2013-07-18 11:29:21 AM  

It's already been done.


scifanatic.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com

 
2013-07-18 11:36:01 AM  
well it is a good idea to look for flecks of a boat because there is no evidence for a worldwide flood event whatsoever.  And that would be easy to prove if it did happen (how does geology work?!) with a worldwide layer of silt existing in the geologic record.  It doesn't exist.  Worldwide flood did not happen.

Religion is stupid.  People are stupid.  Fools and their money are easily parted.  donna D'errico is smart for fleecing the stupid.
 
2013-07-18 11:37:09 AM  

FuryOfFirestorm: error 303: b2theory: Mugato: The animals thing aside, it'd be pretty hard to flood the entire world except one mountain in only 40 days of rain. The grand canyon alone would be impossible to fill. Waterworld was not a documentary.

That's your only issue with the flood? How about the fact that there isn't enough water on the planet to make such a thing happen. There isn't enough moisture in the atmosphere to raise the oceans by 2 inches let alone hundreds to thousands of feet.

"There was 4,000 years ago" or "You can't put constraints on God" are the obvious retorts.

That's the main problem when trying to reason with people who treat the Bible like historically and scientifically accurate text - any holes in their argument is easily patched by saying "GOD DID IT!"


It's fun to play whackamole where everything literally happened, except the stuff you can prove didn't, at which point it's "allegory" until you stop paying attention and they go back to claiming it literally happened.
 
2013-07-18 11:40:06 AM  
There was a great quote from someone at National Geographic about Noah's Ark expeditions:

"Whenever someone goes looking for Noah's Ark, they almost always find it."
 
2013-07-18 11:41:42 AM  

SpectroBoy: [diagoras.files.wordpress.com image 800x600]


The smartest person to ever live was deeply religious. Figure that.
 
2013-07-18 11:46:39 AM  
I thought they already found a site that the Ark was supposed to be but Turkey wouldn't let them near it.
 
2013-07-18 11:47:52 AM  

b2theory: Diogenes: How do you carbon date a metaphor?

The word you were looking for is myth.


Yes?
i9.photobucket.com
 
2013-07-18 11:48:24 AM  

asmodeus224: Religion is stupid. People are stupid. Fools and their money are easily parted. donna D'errico is smart for

 deluded, but a side effect is fleecing the stupid.

FTFY
 
2013-07-18 11:49:29 AM  

phed: I thought they already found a site that the Ark was supposed to be but Turkey wouldn't let them near it.


Right, I had heard the same thing but it was 'unreachable'.
 
2013-07-18 11:53:15 AM  

Shryke: The smartest person to ever live was deeply religious. Figure that.


Who are you claiming is the "smartest person to ever live"?
 
2013-07-18 11:56:47 AM  

miscreant: Shryke: The smartest person to ever live was deeply religious. Figure that.

Who are you claiming is the "smartest person to ever live"?


I'd put in a vote for Mr. Rogers, personally.
 
2013-07-18 11:59:20 AM  
This thread is completely useless without more pics
 
2013-07-18 12:00:31 PM  
"I'd read different stories about how people thought they found the cages and I was completely intrigued. I decided that someday I'd go to Turkey, climb Mount Ararat and search for Noah's ark."

So not only are we supposed to believe that he built a giant boat that would hold a breeding pair of every single creature on the planet, but he built cages as well? I didn't believe the story when I just theought they were compartments that were a part of the ark itself. I don't see him handcrafting 10 gazillion cages as well...
 
2013-07-18 12:05:08 PM  

markie_farkie: [www.atomicnerds.com image 810x640]

SAVE THE BOOBIES!!


Those really look like the coolest birds ever, and their name only helps their cause...
 
2013-07-18 12:06:41 PM  

Shryke: SpectroBoy: [diagoras.files.wordpress.com image 800x600]

The smartest person to ever live was deeply religious. Figure that.



Hawking really isn't very religious.
 
2013-07-18 12:07:04 PM  
I'm going to do a Kickstarter for an expedition to find unicorn fossils.
 
2013-07-18 12:07:32 PM  

phed: I thought they already found a site that the Ark was supposed to be but Turkey wouldn't let them near it.


Just like they found the ark of the covenant in some hut in Africa that no one will let visitors inspect.
 
2013-07-18 12:07:49 PM  

nekom: While I of course don't believe that 2 of every living creature once lived on a boat, it is interesting that so many ancient tales speak of a great flood.  Everywhere from Gilgamesh to the old stories of Native Americans.  Could it be that an asteroid caused a mega-tsunami seen around the world?   Or maybe it's just that every culture had experienced some pretty gnarly floods at one point in time.


Keep in mind that to a lot of these people "the world" pretty much meant walking to the horizon, and the next horizon spot over. What was considered "the whole world" a few thousand years is now called New Orleans...
 
2013-07-18 12:07:50 PM  
If I were Noah, I would have "accidentally" overlooked mosquitoes.
 
2013-07-18 12:08:38 PM  

Dorf11: There was a great quote from someone at National Geographic about Noah's Ark expeditions:

"Whenever someone goes looking for Noah's Ark, they almost always find it."


Did you mean to write "always almost"?
 
2013-07-18 12:09:30 PM  

Mugato: The animals thing aside, it'd be pretty hard to flood the entire world except one mountain in only 40 days of rain. The grand canyon alone would be impossible to fill. Waterworld was not a documentary.


We had a month of rain in Arizona when I lived in Flagstaff, and it resulted in some flooding in Flag and Phoenix. Not really biblical, and almost 40 days' worth.
 
2013-07-18 12:11:38 PM  

Mikey1969: "I'd read different stories about how people thought they found the cages and I was completely intrigued. I decided that someday I'd go to Turkey, climb Mount Ararat and search for Noah's ark."

So not only are we supposed to believe that he built a giant boat that would hold a breeding pair of every single creature on the planet, but he built cages as well? I didn't believe the story when I just theought they were compartments that were a part of the ark itself. I don't see him handcrafting 10 gazillion cages as well...


That's another thing I don't get about the whole Noah's Ark myth: why have Noah make the ark when God can just snap his fingers and BLAM! Instant ark! Heck, why even flood the Earth in the first place? God could have saved a lot of time and effort by smiting all the wicked instead. Seems a lot better than waiting for an old man to make an ark that has enough room for his family, two of every animal on Earth, food and potable water for every person and animal, and still have space to put away the piles upon piles of feces being produced.
 
2013-07-18 12:11:48 PM  

b2theory: That's your only issue with the flood? How about the fact that there isn't enough water on the planet to make such a thing happen. There isn't enough moisture in the atmosphere to raise the oceans by 2 inches let alone hundreds to thousands of feet.


The question I have isn't where the water came from, but where it went. Maybe however many years ago it supposedly happened there WAS more moisture in the air, but where the fark did the water all go, and all at once? It didn't take 4 or 5 centuries for Noah to be able to start repopulating the world, so it happened fast.

In other words, it's all a morality play and total bullshiat.
 
2013-07-18 12:13:28 PM  
Why do people bother donating to the Kickstarter funds of rich, famous people? Wasn't Kickstarter intended to be a step-up for the folks who don't already have the funding and connections?
 
2013-07-18 12:14:17 PM  
I was expecting more boobies in this thread

/leaves dissapointed
 
2013-07-18 12:23:01 PM  

nekom: While I of course don't believe that 2 of every living creature once lived on a boat, it is interesting that so many ancient tales speak of a great flood.  Everywhere from Gilgamesh to the old stories of Native Americans.  Could it be that an asteroid caused a mega-tsunami seen around the world?  Or maybe it's just that every culture had experienced some pretty gnarly floods at one point in time.


For the same reason that the story of Jesus parallels the story of Horus so closely. Also, keep in mind that their "world" was smaller than ours. So small, in fact, it was flat. We know the story of the bible was complete nonsense, simply by the fact that their "blameless," infallible, all-knowing god was the one who allowed the serpent into "paradise" in the first place. After that, there is nothing more really worth knowing, because the house of cards has already fallen.
 
2013-07-18 12:24:24 PM  
Bless her still-hot dumb blonde heart!
 
2013-07-18 12:25:20 PM  

Fano: Dorf11: There was a great quote from someone at National Geographic about Noah's Ark expeditions:

"Whenever someone goes looking for Noah's Ark, they almost always find it."

Did you mean to write "always almost"?


Nope. The implication is that their confirmation bias is so thick they'll almost always believe they find it, no matter what they actually 'found'.
 
2013-07-18 12:25:55 PM  

impaler: Disgruntled Goat: If the world flooded, where did the water recede to?

It simply flowed back into the Abyss of Waters.

Here's a technical schematic that illustrates this question (warning - science content ahead):

[photos1.blogger.com image 850x595]


Wow, they'll farking rationalize ANYthing, won't they?
 
2013-07-18 12:26:59 PM  
www.bobdenver.com

Found it!
 
2013-07-18 12:28:13 PM  

FuryOfFirestorm: That's another thing I don't get about the whole Noah's Ark myth: why have Noah make the ark when God can just snap his fingers and BLAM! Instant ark! Heck, why even flood the Earth in the first place? God could have saved a lot of time and effort by smiting all the wicked instead. Seems a lot better than waiting for an old man to make an ark that has enough room for his family, two of every animal on Earth, food and potable water for every person and animal, and still have space to put away the piles upon piles of feces being produced.


AT that point, LEAN processes didn't exist, so God didn't understand efficiency.

That's what I'm going with...
 
2013-07-18 12:34:00 PM  

Carth: I should do a kickstarter to find Jack's beanstalk. I hear it reached all the way up to the clouds where giants lived. If we're looking for make believe thing a clue where the golden goose lives is more useful.


It wasn't a golden goose. It was a regular goose that laid golden eggs. Get your shiat straight.

/keed
 
2013-07-18 12:34:16 PM  
In my day a Fark topic like this would be full of languidly oscillating female bodies not theological discussions.

/kids today
 
2013-07-18 12:41:47 PM  

HAMMERTOE: For the same reason that the story of Jesus parallels the story of Horus so closely.


EH? I just did a quick scan of the Horus entry in Wiki, and they don't sound alike at all.

/Lemme guess, Bill Maher told you.
 
2013-07-18 12:53:03 PM  
I'm going to start a Kickstarter to fund my search for proof of Gozer's appearance during the Third Reconciliation of the Last of the Meketrex Supplicants. I'm certain I can find the remains of the giant Sloar if only I have enough money and support.
 
2013-07-18 12:54:59 PM  

HAMMERTOE: nekom: While I of course don't believe that 2 of every living creature once lived on a boat, it is interesting that so many ancient tales speak of a great flood.  Everywhere from Gilgamesh to the old stories of Native Americans.  Could it be that an asteroid caused a mega-tsunami seen around the world?  Or maybe it's just that every culture had experienced some pretty gnarly floods at one point in time.

For the same reason that the story of Jesus parallels the story of Horus so closely. Also, keep in mind that their "world" was smaller than ours. So small, in fact, it was flat. We know the story of the bible was complete nonsense, simply by the fact that their "blameless," infallible, all-knowing god was the one who allowed the serpent into "paradise" in the first place. After that, there is nothing more really worth knowing, because the house of cards has already fallen.


Jesus led his brothers into heresy and mortally wounded the emperor of mankind at the siege of terra? I don't recall that bit.
 
2013-07-18 12:55:00 PM  

Diogenes: How do you carbon date a metaphor?


Chemically, existentially, and prepositionally, usually dinner and a movie.
 
2013-07-18 12:56:21 PM  
So this supposed landing site is so inaccessible that multiple expeditions with modern equipment can't get to it. Yet, two sloths not only got down from the mountain but proceeded to walk
all the way to South America. There's the flaw in this whole thing that gets to me.
 
2013-07-18 01:02:27 PM  
img51.imageshack.us
Looks like you unprincipled heathens need some schooling in old-timey science of the biblical variety... read it and weep haters - it's all there in gods' word - you can't argue with that!

Isaiah 11:12   And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the FOUR CORNERS OF THE EARTH. (KJV)


Revelation 7:1

And after these things I saw four angels standing on FOUR CORNERS OF THE EARTH, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree. (KJV)


Job 38:13

That it might take hold of the ENDS OF THE EARTH, that the wicked might be shaken out of it? (KJV)


Jeremiah 16:19

O LORD, my strength, and my fortress, and my refuge in the day of affliction, the Gentiles shall come unto thee from the ENDS OF THE EARTH, and shall say, Surely our fathers have inherited lies, vanity, and things wherein there is no profit. (KJV)


Daniel 4:11

The tree grew, and was strong, and the height thereof reached unto heaven, and the sight thereof to the ENDS OF ALL THE EARTH: (KJV)


Matthew 4:8

8 Again, the devil taketh him up into an EXCEEDING HIGH mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them; (KJV)


Ecclesiastes 1:5

5 The SUN also rises, and the SUN goes down, and HASTENS to the place where it arose. (KJV)
 
2013-07-18 01:02:33 PM  
fu-pa fu-pa fu-pa...
 
2013-07-18 01:08:17 PM  

Shryke: SpectroBoy: [diagoras.files.wordpress.com image 800x600]

The smartest person to ever live was deeply religious. Figure that.


Citation Please, oh I forgot you're just a thread shiatter. Jeez you losers really get on my nerves.
 
2013-07-18 01:11:15 PM  
Conservative humor:

img51.imageshack.us
 
2013-07-18 01:13:05 PM  
What shameful things did she see and do while married to Nikki Sixx that she made this her life's work?
 
2013-07-18 01:13:09 PM  

Disgruntled Goat: If the world flooded, where did the water recede to?


Oo! Oo! I know this one. It was explained to me by a fundy.
It seems that after the flood god lifted the excess water off of the Earth and put it into space.
Here's where it get good.
He went on to explain that this water is the dark matter that we keep searching for.
ts4.mm.bing.net
 
2013-07-18 01:24:09 PM  

nekom: While I of course don't believe that 2 of every living creature once lived on a boat, it is interesting that so many ancient tales speak of a great flood.  Everywhere from Gilgamesh to the old stories of Native Americans.  Could it be that an asteroid caused a mega-tsunami seen around the world?  Or maybe it's just that every culture had experienced some pretty gnarly floods at one point in time.


Yeah. That would be about 10,000 years ago when the glacial ice melted back into water and flooded the now-submerged US continental shelf and created features like Long Island Sound, the Chesapeake Bay and the like. That kind of thing went on globally and it's really no surprise that stories of it live on in myth and legend and oral history.
 
2013-07-18 01:25:39 PM  
/She has Jesus in her eyes.
 
2013-07-18 01:27:33 PM  
FTFA "Keep in mind that the Bible did not say two of every species, but rather two of every kind. That means that one feline kind, rather than every species of feline, would have been taken aboard the ark."

Then wouldn't that imply that the diversity of each "kind" of animal is a result of natural selection, which is one of the basic mechanisms of evolution? Also, if we all came from Noah's son's, wouldn't the inbreeding have made us retarded long before now? Hmmm. Maybe we were once a race of supermen, and now we get ass cancer and heart attacks because we are the product of inbreeding.
 
2013-07-18 01:29:43 PM  
imageshack.us
 
2013-07-18 01:33:44 PM  
 
2013-07-18 01:37:38 PM  

grokca: Disgruntled Goat: If the world flooded, where did the water recede to?

Oo! Oo! I know this one. It was explained to me by a fundy.
It seems that after the flood god lifted the excess water off of the Earth and put it into space.
Here's where it get good.
He went on to explain that this water is the dark matter that we keep searching for.
[ts4.mm.bing.net image 480x349]


img.pandawhale.com
 
2013-07-18 01:38:43 PM  

TimSTP: [imageshack.us image 400x438]


Awesome.
 
2013-07-18 01:47:42 PM  
My personal favorite is Ricky Gervais' (NSFW) version of the story.
 
2013-07-18 01:56:24 PM  
Erika Eleniak? No? Nevermind.
 
2013-07-18 01:56:29 PM  

FuryOfFirestorm: That's another thing I don't get about the whole Noah's Ark myth: why have Noah make the ark when God can just snap his fingers and BLAM! Instant ark!


The God of the Old Testement is constantly demanding people do things (build a temple, take your son to the top of a mountain and kill him, build an ark) to prove their faith in him.  It's pretty messed up, and colors Judaism in an odd way.
 
2013-07-18 02:08:22 PM  

Dwight_Yeast: FuryOfFirestorm: That's another thing I don't get about the whole Noah's Ark myth: why have Noah make the ark when God can just snap his fingers and BLAM! Instant ark!

The God of the Old Testement is constantly demanding people do things (build a temple, take your son to the top of a mountain and kill him, build an ark) to prove their faith in him.  It's pretty messed up, and colors Judaism in an odd way.


Nowadays, if you try to sacrifice your son to prove your faith in God, your wife calls the police and has you committed. Heathen b*tch.
 
2013-07-18 02:11:19 PM  

impaler: Conservative humor:

[img51.imageshack.us image 400x438]


Wait, that was a pro-Bible comic? I thought it was saying that science can "evolve" when new information comes out while the Bible is stubbornly rigid even when we learn through science that most of it is bunk.

Conservative humor indeed.
 
2013-07-18 02:18:03 PM  

Mugato: impaler: Conservative humor:

[img51.imageshack.us image 400x438]

Wait, that was a pro-Bible comic? I thought it was saying that science can "evolve" when new information comes out while the Bible is stubbornly rigid even when we learn through science that most of it is bunk.

Conservative humor indeed.


thats what i thought too :( i don't know whether to feel dumb for not getting the joke or superior for realizing it was stupid.
 
2013-07-18 02:23:53 PM  

Beeblebrox: fu-pa fu-pa fu-pa...


Ding!
 
2013-07-18 02:27:43 PM  

impaler: Conservative humor:

[img51.imageshack.us image 400x438]


and they shiat on their own argument by pointing out that the scientific community adjusts their view based on new information rather than clinging to old knowledge.
 
2013-07-18 02:29:31 PM  

Mugato: impaler: Conservative humor:

[img51.imageshack.us image 400x438]

Wait, that was a pro-Bible comic? I thought it was saying that science can "evolve" when new information comes out while the Bible is stubbornly rigid even when we learn through science that most of it is bunk.

Conservative humor indeed.


Ah, but the argument is that the Bible hasn't changed in forever, therefor it's the most true. They don't get the whole "we leaned something new today" thing.
 
2013-07-18 02:30:11 PM  

ColSanders: Beeblebrox: fu-pa fu-pa fu-pa...

Ding!


What?!
 
2013-07-18 02:31:43 PM  

FuryOfFirestorm: error 303: b2theory: Mugato: The animals thing aside, it'd be pretty hard to flood the entire world except one mountain in only 40 days of rain. The grand canyon alone would be impossible to fill. Waterworld was not a documentary.

That's your only issue with the flood? How about the fact that there isn't enough water on the planet to make such a thing happen. There isn't enough moisture in the atmosphere to raise the oceans by 2 inches let alone hundreds to thousands of feet.

"There was 4,000 years ago" or "You can't put constraints on God" are the obvious retorts.

That's the main problem when trying to reason with people who treat the Bible like historically and scientifically accurate text - any holes in their argument is easily patched by saying "GOD DID IT!"


Or The Simpsons.
 
2013-07-18 02:42:17 PM  

Ed Grubermann: Mugato: impaler: Conservative humor:

[img51.imageshack.us image 400x438]

Wait, that was a pro-Bible comic? I thought it was saying that science can "evolve" when new information comes out while the Bible is stubbornly rigid even when we learn through science that most of it is bunk.

Conservative humor indeed.

Ah, but the argument is that the Bible hasn't changed in forever, therefor it's the most true. They don't get the whole "we leaned something new today" thing.


That's why I still haven't updated my encyclopedia collection after 1991. All those new encyclopedias changed "USSR" to "Former Soviet Republic", which totally invalidates the whole thing! George H.W. Bush is still President, dammit!
 
2013-07-18 02:52:38 PM  
So let's say I use Kickstarter to fund my independent movie.  I raise $500,000.  I take $495,000 as a writer/director's fee, and spend $5,000 making a crappy movie.  I pay all of my income taxes like a good boy.

Have I broken any laws?
 
2013-07-18 03:02:23 PM  

See You Next Tuesday: Fireproof: HAMMERTOE: For the same reason that the story of Jesus parallels the story of Horus so closely.

EH? I just did a quick scan of the Horus entry in Wiki, and they don't sound alike at all.

/Lemme guess, Bill Maher told you.

Yes, because Maher is the only atheist in the world.


Actually, I was referring to Religulous, which the Wiki article I linked to mentions was wrong about the similarities between Jesus and Horus.
 
2013-07-18 03:08:36 PM  
Since there are so many glaciers on the mountain, any large object like a huge boat would have been swept down the mountainside long before now.
 
2013-07-18 03:16:30 PM  
Wait.....I thought they already found it...

www.arkdiscovery.com
 
2013-07-18 03:29:31 PM  

nekom: Mugato:
Or maybe most civilizations were built near water and at some point in all their histories there was a flood of some sort.

That's probably the case, civilizations certainly did revolve around water, and in a time before locks and dams I'm sure floods were even worse than they are today.  I've also heard it suggested that perhaps the Mediterranean sea was once empty, and the strait of Gibralter breached, but I don't think any serious scientists believe that.


A better candidate is the Black Sea. The water level varies a great deal and there are large areas that flood or are exposed as the level changes.
 
2013-07-18 03:33:07 PM  

Ed Grubermann: Mugato: impaler: Conservative humor:

[img51.imageshack.us image 400x438]

Wait, that was a pro-Bible comic? I thought it was saying that science can "evolve" when new information comes out while the Bible is stubbornly rigid even when we learn through science that most of it is bunk.

Conservative humor indeed.

Ah, but the argument is that the Bible hasn't changed in forever, therefor it's the most true. They don't get the whole "we leaned something new today" thing.



There's a thread around here about irony. I believe using a computer to draw and publish your comic strip about how science is gay qualifies.
 
2013-07-18 04:26:31 PM  
god is just pretend...

I thought we all knew that...
 
2013-07-18 04:39:27 PM  

HotIgneous Intruder: Yeah. That would be about 10,000 years ago when the glacial ice melted back into water and flooded the now-submerged US continental shelf and created features like Long Island Sound, the Chesapeake Bay and the like. That kind of thing went on globally and it's really no surprise that stories of it live on in myth and legend and oral history.


Did the Ice Age glaciers melt quickly enough that any person would live long enough to notice?
 
2013-07-18 04:39:34 PM  

Mugato: There's a thread around here about irony. I believe using a computer to draw and publish your comic strip about how science is gay qualifies.


Alan Turing, widely considered to be the father of computer science, was gay - so 'not ironic.'
 
2013-07-18 04:40:49 PM  

nekom: While I of course don't believe that 2 of every living creature once lived on a boat, it is interesting that so many ancient tales speak of a great flood.  Everywhere from Gilgamesh to the old stories of Native Americans.  Could it be that an asteroid caused a mega-tsunami seen around the world?  Or maybe it's just that every culture had experienced some pretty gnarly floods at one point in time.


Maybe you are too young or not an American to remember the summer of 1993 and the flooding that occurred all along the Mississippi. Those levees that were built to withstand a 100 year flood around St. Louis only managed to avoid being lost because the Army Core of Engineers blew up levees further south of the city relieving the pressure.

Now imagine a flood like that and you are a primitive culture with no flood control and no science. Of course you are going to remember that flood in stories, that and every other "Great" flood. Not there was no mega-tsunami, you are just fortunate to live in a time where we can almost completely control water.
 
2013-07-18 04:44:09 PM  

Jethro74: My personal favorite is Ricky Gervais' (NSFW) version of the story.


Thanks for that. One of my favorite bits of his.Love the part where he compares god to a pissed off gay guy.
 
2013-07-18 05:18:32 PM  

Old enough to know better: Since there are so many glaciers on the mountain, any large object like a huge boat would have been swept down the mountainside long before now.


Also since the mountain is so steep and treacherous it begs the question of how some of the more center-of-balance-challenged animals made it down in one piece...

/ looking at you 15,000 lb elephant in the room
 
2013-07-18 07:23:57 PM  

Beerguy: Wait.....I thought they already found it...

[www.arkdiscovery.com image 536x698]


You can pretty much drive right up to that: https://maps.google.com/maps?q=39+26+26+N,+44+14+05+E&hl=en&ll=39.440 4 35,44.236193&spn=0.02837,0.063772&sll=42.036922,-71.683501&sspn=3.4922 4,8.162842&t=h&z=15
 
2013-07-19 01:02:27 AM  
I remember her first Playboy appearance, before Baywatch, or Motley Crue.  Cute blonde, and I thought I remembered something about her owning a limo service in Vegas.
 
2013-07-19 07:31:19 AM  
She was banging  Nikki Sixx. No thanks.
 
2013-07-19 07:35:07 AM  

abhorrent1: She was banging  Nikki Sixx. No thanks.



Only because he died and came back to life.
 
2013-07-19 01:26:46 PM  

Shryke: SpectroBoy: [diagoras.files.wordpress.com image 800x600]

The smartest person to ever live was deeply religious. Figure that.


No, I am not!
 
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