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(ESPN FC)   FIFA president Ric Romero learns that Qatar can get a bit warm during the summer, asks to move the 2022 World Cup to winter   (espnfc.com) divider line 84
    More: Obvious, Sepp Blatter, World Cup, Fifa, Ric Romero, Michel Platini, Qatar  
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2013-07-18 12:07:45 AM  
Up yours England for reporting on our bribe scandals, now we'll mess up your seasons
 
2013-07-18 12:37:35 AM  
It's amazing how quickly critical thinking goes out the window when one is presented with suitcases full of cash.
 
2013-07-18 12:46:24 AM  
Does Qatar have a winter?
 
2013-07-18 12:47:37 AM  
Instead of moving it to the winter, why don't they move it to a country where the fans can drink and fight! Australia perhaps, who the fark wants to go to Qatar anyway
 
2013-07-18 12:52:14 AM  
So, it'll probably be 8 degrees cooler there? A brisk 118 degrees?
 
2013-07-18 12:54:15 AM  
FIFA is becoming more and more like the WWE....  What a joke.
 
2013-07-18 12:58:33 AM  
I thought Qatar promised to build mechanical floating clouds to help bring shade and cool air to the World Cup?

http://newsfeed.time.com/2011/03/27/robotic-clouds-will-provide-shad e- during-qatar-world-cup/

No really
 
2013-07-18 01:01:23 AM  
This World Cup will only be slightly less successful than the WC in Russia.  But I am sure it will be the BOMB....
 
2013-07-18 01:02:39 AM  
I would like to see Russia or Canada get it, in the winter months.

p2.trrsf.com

Every. Farking. Game.
 
2013-07-18 01:09:40 AM  

pagansexgod: Instead of moving it to the winter, why don't they move it to a country where the fans can drink and fight! Australia perhaps, who the fark wants to go to Qatar anyway


True.  Holding out on hosting major world events in Middle Eastern countries until they become more socially progressive would be a good means of encouraging change.
 
2013-07-18 01:14:57 AM  

TheManofPA: Up yours England for reporting on our bribe scandals, now we'll mess up your seasons


Speaking of bribery scandals, how the ever-loving fark did Bernie's indictment not get greenlit?
 
2013-07-18 01:25:03 AM  

TuteTibiImperes: pagansexgod: Instead of moving it to the winter, why don't they move it to a country where the fans can drink and fight! Australia perhaps, who the fark wants to go to Qatar anyway

True.  Holding out on hosting major world events in Middle Eastern countries until they become more socially progressive would be a good means of encouraging change.


Whoa hold on there. We don't want to encourage standards that would disqualify the US.
 
2013-07-18 01:30:40 AM  

AliceBToklasLives: TuteTibiImperes: pagansexgod: Instead of moving it to the winter, why don't they move it to a country where the fans can drink and fight! Australia perhaps, who the fark wants to go to Qatar anyway

True.  Holding out on hosting major world events in Middle Eastern countries until they become more socially progressive would be a good means of encouraging change.

Whoa hold on there. We don't want to encourage standards that would disqualify the US.


Heh, we have our issues, but we're still worlds ahead of the Middle East.  We're also one of the last places that should host because the vast majority of the country doesn't give a fark about soccer.
 
2013-07-18 01:34:09 AM  
Y'know, there is one nation that has extensive experience in hosting world-class sporting events. It deals with tourists from all over the world daily, has citizens flush with first world recreational cash, enough infrastructure to handle the influx of soccer fans, enough alcohol to get them all so shiatfaced they won't know if it's soccer or midget chucking - and that's before imports - a steady supply of illicit substances for the more adventurous or diplomatically immune, security forces that just can't WAIT to try out their new toys, and the highest raw spectator capacity in the world for athletic events of any kind. Could probably host it with a month's notice too.

Y'know what country that is?

USA baby!

Even skipping the real shiatpiles, we could host the World Cup with a fresh stadium for every match, and not even use an MLS facility. But you gave it to Qatar...

You deserve what you get. Idiots.

Oh, and UNC_Samurai, Bernie made the main page. Look for a BBC link.
 
2013-07-18 01:42:07 AM  
Three options:

- Host it in Qatar during the summer and watch people die from the heat as a result;
- Host it in Qatar during the winter and fark up pro soccer schedules worldwide;
- Host it in a country that makes actual sense for hosting the World Cup

Herp derp.
 
2013-07-18 01:43:38 AM  
This headline was two words to long too bring hope.
 
2013-07-18 02:03:21 AM  
Can it even be moved to the USA or UK at this point?
 
2013-07-18 02:04:58 AM  

thisiszombocom: Does Qatar have a winter?


Not that you'd notice

/Not even Christmas decorations to tip you off
 
2013-07-18 02:05:29 AM  
FTA : you can't play football in the summer"

He's right.

Between the helmet, jersey, shoulder pads and long pants, the players would roast to death long before the two minute warning of the first half.
 
2013-07-18 02:07:12 AM  

TuteTibiImperes: We're also one of the last places that should host because the vast majority of the country doesn't give a fark about soccer.


The 1994 World Cup was a big success.  The problem for the current FIFA with holding it in the USA is that there's little money to "pass around" for new stadiums and infrastructure.
 
2013-07-18 02:33:25 AM  

neuroflare: Can it even be moved to the USA or UK at this point?


Both nations could probably work out the scheduling and have existing facilities that could do the event.  The problem is FIFA would never admit a mistake and by moving it, they would reward major critics of the organization.  Add to the fact it would offend those who have already bought and paid for the event regardless of the idiocy and there is almost zero chance of it being moved unless Qatar itself requested it be moved.  The chances of Qatar saying they couldn't do it are about as remote as a naturally occurring snowstorm in Qatar during July.
 
2013-07-18 02:37:21 AM  
As mentioned earlier, any country/city that could host the World Cup/Olympics etc tomorrow are not viable candidates. The only places that get a look are those that have a lot of cash but not a lot of development, and are corrupt enough to pay off the organizers/delegates w/ all that extra slush money. Even Germany had to build stuff for their World Cup.
 
2013-07-18 02:52:54 AM  

Trocadero: As mentioned earlier, any country/city that could host the World Cup/Olympics etc tomorrow are not viable candidates. The only places that get a look are those that have a lot of cash but not a lot of development, and are corrupt enough to pay off the organizers/delegates w/ all that extra slush money. Even Germany had to build stuff for their World Cup.


Hey, the Falcons are building a new stadium anyway. The Raiders need a new stadium. So do the Vikings. LA wants a football team so desperately they can practically think about almost maybe bothering to imagine tasting it, and I'm sure either the Giants or the Jets would love their own facility.

There you go! Each project finds eight figures of slush for FIFA, and the NFL gets swanky new places to demolish in ten years.
 
2013-07-18 02:58:41 AM  

TuteTibiImperes: pagansexgod: Instead of moving it to the winter, why don't they move it to a country where the fans can drink and fight! Australia perhaps, who the fark wants to go to Qatar anyway

True.  Holding out on hosting major world events in Middle Eastern countries until they become more socially progressive would be a good means of encouraging change.


Says the man who knows nothing about Qatar, apparently.
 
2013-07-18 03:00:30 AM  

Daedalus27: as remote as a naturally occurring snowstorm in Qatar during July.


www.forensicgenealogy.info

/Yeah yeah, UAE not Qatar.
//shut up
 
2013-07-18 03:01:11 AM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: TuteTibiImperes: pagansexgod: Instead of moving it to the winter, why don't they move it to a country where the fans can drink and fight! Australia perhaps, who the fark wants to go to Qatar anyway

True.  Holding out on hosting major world events in Middle Eastern countries until they become more socially progressive would be a good means of encouraging change.

Says the man who knows nothing about Qatar, apparently.


Visitors need to apply for and receive a special permit to purchase alcohol, that alone should remove it from consideration for any proper hooligan.
 
2013-07-18 03:02:34 AM  

TuteTibiImperes: Visitors need to apply for and receive a special permit to purchase alcohol, that alone should remove it from consideration for any proper hooligan.


Well I'm with you there, but in terms of being socially progressive, Qatar is not a bad place.
 
2013-07-18 03:12:31 AM  

Daedalus27: neuroflare: Can it even be moved to the USA or UK at this point?

Both nations could probably work out the scheduling and have existing facilities that could do the event.  The problem is FIFA would never admit a mistake and by moving it, they would reward major critics of the organization.  Add to the fact it would offend those who have already bought and paid for the event regardless of the idiocy and there is almost zero chance of it being moved unless Qatar itself requested it be moved.  The chances of Qatar saying they couldn't do it are about as remote as a naturally occurring snowstorm in Qatar during July.


I'm personally pulling for a political revolution that destabilizes the country or at least the region.

/Was pulling for a collapse of world oil markets but that seems less and less likely with the US and Canada exploding with production.
 
2013-07-18 03:15:11 AM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: TuteTibiImperes: Visitors need to apply for and receive a special permit to purchase alcohol, that alone should remove it from consideration for any proper hooligan.

Well I'm with you there, but in terms of being socially progressive, Qatar is not a bad place.


Aside from limiting citizenship to only about 25% of the actual population and growing on the backs of glorified slaves from India and Southern Asia because those lucky enough to be citizens get an allowance every year from the government and are above any manual labor?
 
2013-07-18 03:16:38 AM  

neuroflare: Can it even be moved to the USA or UK at this point?


As far as I understand, USA is always the backstop for World Cups.  In the event of a horrid Confederations Cup, civil unrest, or other issues, we'd get it here.  Honestly, with a couple months of planning we could set it up here, as opposed to the years countries normally do them in.  We have numerous giant, outdoor cathedrals to athleticism that sit empty most of the summer.

Not to say England doesn't have plenty of its own, but it's not nearly to the scale we have here.  When the USSF was putting together the 2018 and 2022 World Cup bids, they had a list of 70 existing stadiums as possible venues, the vast majority of them bigger than pretty much anything in England besides Old Trafford and Wembley.  Not to mention we have plenty of immigrants around that would be happy to fill the stands.

But, of course...

Daedalus27: Both nations could probably work out the scheduling and have existing facilities that could do the event.  The problem is FIFA would never admit a mistake and by moving it, they would reward major critics of the organization.  Add to the fact it would offend those who have already bought and paid for the event regardless of the idiocy and there is almost zero chance of it being moved unless Qatar itself requested it be moved.  The chances of Qatar saying they couldn't do it are about as remote as a naturally occurring snowstorm in Qatar during July.


Yeah, pretty much this.
 
2013-07-18 03:21:06 AM  
http://www.worldstadiums.com/north_america/countries/united_states/te x as.shtml

Texas alone could host without a single new stadium... Damn.
 
2013-07-18 03:33:01 AM  

Lunchlady: The All-Powerful Atheismo: TuteTibiImperes: Visitors need to apply for and receive a special permit to purchase alcohol, that alone should remove it from consideration for any proper hooligan.

Well I'm with you there, but in terms of being socially progressive, Qatar is not a bad place.

Aside from limiting citizenship to only about 25% of the actual population and growing on the backs of glorified slaves from India and Southern Asia because those lucky enough to be citizens get an allowance every year from the government and are above any manual labor?


Noting of course that most of the population IS foreign workers and that they therefore don't necessarily have a right to citizenship, just as they don't automatically have that right in just about any country anywhere.

Do they treat them well?  Probably not, but it's not the worst human rights situation in the world, especially when you look at their record on women's rights, religious tolerance, and the near lack of capital punishment.

ESPECIALLY when you try to lump them in with other countries in that region.

In summary... are they perfect?  Of course not.  Are they as progressive as some european or western nations?  No.  But it's not THAT bad.
 
2013-07-18 03:37:32 AM  
It needs to move to Scotland.

Because that's the only way we'll ever get into a World Cup final again.
 
2013-07-18 03:39:34 AM  
Final 32 that is. We'll be in the actual final proper the day after they build an ice skating rink in Hell.
 
2013-07-18 03:39:42 AM  

CmndrFish: In the event of a horrid Confederations Cup, civil unrest,


So you're saying we're getting it next year?
 
2013-07-18 03:44:36 AM  
only way i see the world cup moved from Qatar is if the fifa board rebels from its president and refuses to both moves the world cup to the winter or risk lives playing in a desert country in the farking summer.

Not gonna happen though too many bribes at stake.
 
2013-07-18 03:52:38 AM  

Gordon Bennett: Final 32 that is. We'll be in the actual final proper the day after they build an ice skating rink in Hell.


www.forensicgenealogy.info
/again
//pretty close
///shut up
 
2013-07-18 04:29:23 AM  

fastbow: http://www.worldstadiums.com/north_america/countries/united_states/te x as.shtml

Texas alone could host without a single new stadium... Damn.


A large number of American Football stadiums have pitches that are too small by international Football standards (at the widest point they are fine but are too narrow at the ends) so that scrubs most of them off the lists. Plus Texas is also very hot during the afternoon when a lot of matches will have to be played so has some of the issues thatnQuatar has.


Even in America North Korea vs Morroco wouldn't get more than twenty thousand fans in so its better to nearly fill a 30,000 seater stadium than loose them in a 70,000 seater stadium.



I' not saying America wouldn't be a good backup but it isn't any better than England or Germany.
 
2013-07-18 04:36:44 AM  

Norfolking Chance: Even in America North Korea vs Morroco wouldn't get more than twenty thousand fans in so its better to nearly fill a 30,000 seater stadium than loose them in a 70,000 seater stadium.


For a world cup game? Are you kidding? It would sell out any stadium in the country.

We still hold the attendance record, despite the fact that there were twelve fewer matches than their are today.
 
2013-07-18 05:35:44 AM  

fastbow: http://www.worldstadiums.com/north_america/countries/united_states/te x as.shtml

Texas alone could host without a single new stadium... Damn.


Wouldn't holding it in Texas be pretty much the same damn thing as holding it in Qatar?
 
2013-07-18 05:39:00 AM  

fastbow: USA baby!


The only drawback is scheduling. You're either starting games at noon in the middle of summer, or have hordes of Euro fans wake up at 2 AM to watch the games. Night games are faster-paced and better for people in the stands too. Brazil is going to suck for much the same reason, don't make 2018 be the same way.

/ give it to Germany again
// that was just a non-stop, month-long party
 
2013-07-18 06:51:05 AM  

Chupacabra Sandwich: Norfolking Chance: Even in America North Korea vs Morroco wouldn't get more than twenty thousand fans in so its better to nearly fill a 30,000 seater stadium than loose them in a 70,000 seater stadium.

For a world cup game? Are you kidding? It would sell out any stadium in the country.

We still hold the attendance record, despite the fact that there were twelve fewer matches than their are today.


Especially if North Korea was playing, you'd all support them ironically.

But yeh, you are right, a lot of people will go to see any match for the event, rather than because they support a particular team.
 
2013-07-18 06:59:40 AM  

UNC_Samurai: Speaking of bribery scandals, how the ever-loving fark did Bernie's indictment not get greenlit?


You mean this one?
 
2013-07-18 07:06:54 AM  

twomutts: Wouldn't holding it in Texas be pretty much the same damn thing as holding it in Qatar?


Hah! Good point
 
2013-07-18 07:29:11 AM  

neaorin: The only drawback is scheduling. You're either starting games at noon in the middle of summer, or have hordes of Euro fans wake up at 2 AM to watch the games


So what?

Europeans aren't the only ones who watch soccer.
 
2013-07-18 07:46:07 AM  

NetOwl: neaorin: The only drawback is scheduling. You're either starting games at noon in the middle of summer, or have hordes of Euro fans wake up at 2 AM to watch the games

So what?

Europeans aren't the only ones who watch soccer.


No but its where most of the money comes from. Without the European tv rights and the advertising that brings the World Cup was loose more money than a bank going under. In a couple of decades maybe the US market may get bigger than the European one but at the moment is the € that pays for that lavish FIFA lifestyle
 
2013-07-18 07:54:55 AM  

twomutts: fastbow: http://www.worldstadiums.com/north_america/countries/united_states/te x as.shtml

Texas alone could host without a single new stadium... Damn.

Wouldn't holding it in Texas be pretty much the same damn thing as holding it in Qatar?


Not really. One of them is a regressive backwater that subjugates women, shamelessly exploits immigrant labor, and depends on oil to prop up its economy. And the other one is Qatar.

/But at least there'd be alcohol.
 
2013-07-18 07:58:21 AM  
Spent a year in Qatar. Hotter than you imagine. fark Qatar.

Did get some geocaches in Doha, though, so there's that.

Also, wifey found the perfect way to ship booze to me under the customs radar. She so rocks.
 
2013-07-18 08:56:02 AM  

Argyle82: FIFA is becoming more and more like the WWE....  What a joke.


FIFA and F1 racing have to be the most corrupt major sports organizations in the world.
 
2013-07-18 09:34:30 AM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: Gordon Bennett: Final 32 that is. We'll be in the actual final proper the day after they build an ice skating rink in Hell.

[www.forensicgenealogy.info image 850x637]
/again
//pretty close
///shut up


Are you an employee for the Qatar WC committee or something?
 
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