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(Peoria Journal Star)   Here's a tip: If you can't crack open a stolen safe the first time don't come back and try again the next day, especially if it's in a police officer's backyard   (pjstar.com) divider line 15
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2013-07-17 08:42:58 PM  
Why would the police officer have a stolen safe in his backyard?
 
2013-07-17 08:51:59 PM  
He's seventeen and being charged as an adult? And the media is publishing his name?

Is this normal down there?
 
2013-07-17 08:54:47 PM  
"James E. Fleming, 17, of 278 W. 2nd St. faces up to 15 years if convicted of the felony burglary charge associated with the June 9 incident."

I know there are idiot criminals, but for some reason I don't find it too amusing that a 17 year old is facing up to 15 years for a non-violent offense, especially if it's his first. They're gonna potentially keep him in jail until he's 32 years old for this? He needs to serve time but the years he's facing is ridiculous. No one got injured. All these female teachers sexually abusing students serve less time.
 
2013-07-17 09:16:07 PM  
You know what's interesting?  When I was a kid growing up, there were policemen and then policewomen and they were worthy of respect and cared about the community they served.

Now they're police OFFICERs and they demand respect with a taser if necessary.

Okay, cops weren't necessarily worthy of respect back in the day either, but officers were people who served in the military.
 
2013-07-17 09:17:08 PM  

skinink: They're gonna potentially keep him in jail until he's 32 years old for this? He needs to serve time but the years he's facing is ridiculous.


I'd hope they give him less than the maximum, and a good possibility of parole.
 
2013-07-17 09:21:01 PM  

gfid: Okay, cops weren't necessarily worthy of respect back in the day either


csb
In high school (too many damn years ago), bunch of my friends and I were sitting in my car (okay, parents' Buick) at a gas station and talking over where to go when we saw a motorcycle cop take a turn a little too tight and fall off of his bike. We were roaring with laughter, and the cop sets his bike up, walks over to us, and told us we could be arrested for disrespecting an officer. I told him if he wanted the story of how he fell off his bike on a clear dry sunny day to be told in court, go right ahead. I got the hairy eyeball and he left without another word.
I thought for a minute he was going to shoot me, but it was almost worth it.
/csb
//But they were using that officer shiat over twenty years ago
 
2013-07-17 10:25:33 PM  
+1 for not saying "Pro...".
 
2013-07-17 10:32:23 PM  
A handful of states try most/all offenses by 17 year olds, and a few more also 6 year olds, as adult offenses.  I believe North Carolina is one example where 16 year old shoplifters, drunk drivers, etc. will be tried in criminal court no different than adults.

It's been about 6 years since I read up on that, so if I'm wrong that's why.
 
2013-07-17 10:34:21 PM  
CSB Time:

I used to be an assistant manager at a pet supply store in Montclair (basically a rich enclave in the hills right above Oakland). So, this one time on the day after THanksgiving, I get a frantic call from the manager. The store had been robbed. I was the closer on the night before Thanksgiving (we were closed on T-Day), so I had to come in and talk with Oakland Police about anything strange or suspicious that night. I drive up to the store, getting there about 8 in the morning, go inside and...it's the most bizarre break-in you can imagine. The thieves broke in through one of the lower display windows that was blocked by a shelf of dried cat food bags. They pushed 4 or 5, 25 lbs bags out of the way to crawl through into the store. The alarm is going off, but the security guard that's in the lower parking lot isn't answering it, he was asleep or drunk, IIRC. The thieves go into the storeroom area, where the office is. The door is locked, which was SOP for the place. So, they pick up a huge can of dog food, like twice the size of a normal soup can, and start pounding away at the window in the office door with it. It's plexiglass, so it's not breaking, and they eventually have to use a second can to finish busting out the window. So, finally they're in the office, and the safe is sitting there, all locked up. Instead of being deterred by a 3' tall, 2' wide, 2' deep iron safe, they grab one of the dollys from the storeroom and drag the safe onto it. This thing probably weighed close to half a ton, by the way. They get it out into their truck and drive off. So, after a couple hours of talking to the cops about this, the OPD officers get a call that the safe has been found by the California Highway Patrol. Apparently, the thieves drove up and parked on an overpass looking over 580...and pushed the safe off to try and bust it open. Of course, it doesn't open on the first run. So, they drive back down, haul the safe back onto the truck, go back onto the overpass, and push it off again. And then again, CHP has the thing on video and they're just as 'WTF is up with these guys' as we all are. End of story: they actually got about $1500 in cash from the cash on hand (deposits were picked up every couple days by a courier and they hadn't come yet becasue of Thanksgiving).

/The Aristocrats!
 
2013-07-17 10:35:07 PM  

pedrop357: A handful of states try most/all offenses by 17 year olds, and a few more also

16 year olds, as adult offenses.  I believe North Carolina is one example where 16 year old shoplifters, drunk drivers, etc. will be tried in criminal court no different than adults.

It's been about 6 years since I read up on that, so if I'm wrong that's why.


FTFM
 
2013-07-17 10:45:49 PM  

Texmaniac: Why would the police officer have a stolen safe in his backyard?


The same reason someone would ask a question that could be answered by reading the article.
 
2013-07-17 11:33:59 PM  
"he left the area shortly before midnight and returned the next day "

So technically it could have been a matter of minutes.

/the best kind of correct
 
2013-07-18 01:34:09 AM  
lipnews.com
 
2013-07-18 09:01:54 AM  

skinink: "James E. Fleming, 17, of 278 W. 2nd St. faces up to 15 years if convicted of the felony burglary charge associated with the June 9 incident."

I know there are idiot criminals, but for some reason I don't find it too amusing that a 17 year old is facing up to 15 years for a non-violent offense, especially if it's his first. They're gonna potentially keep him in jail until he's 32 years old for this? He needs to serve time but the years he's facing is ridiculous. No one got injured. All these female teachers sexually abusing students serve less time.


Stealing or burglarizing is as bad as a violent crime, if not worse. 15 years is pretty insane though for his first offense; one year is more appropriate.
 
2013-07-18 09:18:13 AM  
The biggest crime is naming a town in Illinois El Paso without naming the place across the downtown stream Cuidad Juarez.  That'd give those Nazis something to talk about.
 
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