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(NBC News)   Liz Cheney swears she isn't a carpetbagger, despite moving to Wyoming with no job or any other real reason to be in the state but to run for office   (firstread.nbcnews.com) divider line 109
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2013-07-17 08:18:32 PM
I read that as 'Lon Chaney'

spelling counts, subby
 
2013-07-17 08:23:05 PM

calbert: I read that as 'Lon Chaney'

spelling counts, subby


I read it as 'Liz Chaney' but am choosing to imagine her as 'Lacey Chabert'.
 
2013-07-17 08:26:28 PM

gameshowhost: calbert: I read that as 'Lon Chaney'

spelling counts, subby

I read it as 'Liz Chaney' but am choosing to imagine her as 'Lacey Chabert'.


I read that as 'Lacey Underall'

www.slicefreegolf.com
 
2013-07-17 08:26:45 PM
Carpet  bagger, subby?  It's carpet munch- oh wait, different daughter.

/in a hand basket
 
2013-07-17 08:43:24 PM
I don't have a problem with the carpet-bagging issue as much as I do with the whole "has no experience or professional or intellectual qualifications at all for this job" issue.
 
2013-07-17 08:45:32 PM

DamnYankees: I don't have a problem with the carpet-bagging issue as much as I do with the whole "has no experience or professional or intellectual qualifications at all for this job" issue.


Sounds perfect for Wyoming.
 
2013-07-17 08:47:15 PM

DamnYankees: I don't have a problem with the carpet-bagging issue as much as I do with the whole "has no experience or professional or intellectual qualifications at all for this job" issue.


Yes, but enough about Barack Obamas 2008 Presidential campaign.
 
2013-07-17 08:47:34 PM

DamnYankees: I don't have a problem with the carpet-bagging issue as much as I do with the whole "has no experience or professional or intellectual qualifications at all for this job" issue.



I'd care if I lived in Wyoming but they'll get the politicians they deserve. And they DESERVE some shiatty ones given their history.
 
2013-07-17 08:47:41 PM

Bruxellensis: Carpet  bagger, subby?  It's carpet munch-


0/10, too easy.

/I swear I didn't come into this thread to make the exact same joke, honest.
 
2013-07-17 08:49:43 PM

Bruxellensis: Carpet  bagger, subby?  It's carpet munch- oh wait, different daughter.

/in a hand basket


Came for this.... uh... let me rephrase that...
 
2013-07-17 08:50:01 PM
...wait, isn't Wyoming where her parents gained prominence?  Then saying she's a carpetbagger would be like saying Chelsea Clinton is a carpetbagger if she ran for office in Arkansas. No, she's not.
 
2013-07-17 08:50:15 PM
She sounds like a manipulative piece of shiat... and people say fathers don't spend enough time with their daughters.
 
2013-07-17 08:50:59 PM
Ugh.  I really, really hope she loses this race hard.
 
2013-07-17 08:57:43 PM

IlGreven: ...wait, isn't Wyoming where her parents gained prominence?  Then saying she's a carpetbagger would be like saying Chelsea Clinton is a carpetbagger if she ran for office in Arkansas. No, she's not.


If I'm not mistaken, the Cheney girls were raised and schooled in one of the richest counties in the U.S., Fairfax, and attended McLean H.S. (a hop, skip and a jump from CIA hq in Langley). I don't know how or why Cheney feels that she can effectively represent the people of Wyoming. But, something similar can most likely be said for CC.

/NoVa resident for the past 30 years.
 
2013-07-17 08:58:05 PM

IlGreven: ...wait, isn't Wyoming where her parents gained prominence?  Then saying she's a carpetbagger would be like saying Chelsea Clinton is a carpetbagger if she ran for office in Arkansas. No, she's not.


She spent her entire life in the DC suburbs.

Also when her father ran for that seat, his residency was also challenged.
 
2013-07-17 08:58:18 PM
Hi I'm from NY and I'd like to remind you about Hilliary Clinton.

Think very carefully about this.
 
2013-07-17 08:58:36 PM

IlGreven: ...wait, isn't Wyoming where her parents gained prominence?  Then saying she's a carpetbagger would be like saying Chelsea Clinton is a carpetbagger if she ran for office in Arkansas. No, she's not.


That is for the people of Wyoming to decide. Outside Wyoming, it's not really up to us, like when Hilary ran in NY.

However, it's a perfectly legitimate question for the people of Wyoming to ask when deciding who to vote for.
 
2013-07-17 09:01:07 PM
You cup their balls like this in a sensual way and then slap the buggers til they are black like Obama's balls.
i.imgur.com
 
2013-07-17 09:02:46 PM
I have a feeling that opposing the Cheneys in Wyoming gets you a swift ticket to Wow Small Planes Sure Are Dangerous-ville. Or the neighboring state of Heart Attack? But He Was So Healthy-stan.
 
2013-07-17 09:04:24 PM

sheep snorter: You cup their balls like this in a sensual way and then slap the buggers til they are black like Obama's balls.


She's running for U.S. Senate, not to be a TSA screener.
 
2013-07-17 09:04:44 PM

DamnYankees: I don't have a problem with the carpet-bagging issue as much as I do with the whole "has no experience or professional or intellectual qualifications at all for this job" issue.


Lots of money and a famous last name don't count?
 
2013-07-17 09:09:25 PM

IlGreven: ...wait, isn't Wyoming where her parents gained prominence?  Then saying she's a carpetbagger would be like saying Chelsea Clinton is a carpetbagger if she ran for office in Arkansas. No, she's not.


Wikipedia says she was born in Madison Wisconsin and graduated high school in NOVA and did her higher education in the Colorado and Illinois.

And here's what Rand Paul.  Surely a person like you wouldn't disagree with the almighty RAND PAUL, would you?

"When I heard Liz Cheney was running for Senate I wondered if she was running in her home state of Virginia," Paul said.
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/07/rand-paul-liz-cheney-senate-bi d- 94308.html
 
2013-07-17 09:11:27 PM

cameroncrazy1984: DamnYankees: I don't have a problem with the carpet-bagging issue as much as I do with the whole "has no experience or professional or intellectual qualifications at all for this job" issue.

Sounds perfect for Wyoming.


And the GOP/Tea Party.

"Anybody who thinks you come here for political reasons has never been here. And they don't understand what a special place this is,"

What could be more special than representing trees and grass?

images.travelpod.com
 
2013-07-17 09:13:07 PM

cameroncrazy1984: DamnYankees: I don't have a problem with the carpet-bagging issue as much as I do with the whole "has no experience or professional or intellectual qualifications at all for this job" issue.

Sounds perfect for Wyoming.


Works in Alaska, too!
 
2013-07-17 09:13:17 PM

The Green Manalishi: DamnYankees: I don't have a problem with the carpet-bagging issue as much as I do with the whole "has no experience or professional or intellectual qualifications at all for this job" issue.

Lots of money and a famous last name don't count?


Worked for Hillary. And she turned out OK, really. But yeah, her total work experience amounts to a patronage job at the State Department.
 
2013-07-17 09:14:11 PM
Let's see, a half-mil people in the state. Subtract out kids, democrats (both of them) and people who don't vote in primaries...she'll need less than 100,000 votes.
 
2013-07-17 09:18:41 PM
Why is Fark hellbent on turning this into a nontroversy?
 
2013-07-17 09:21:31 PM

whidbey: Why is Fark hellbent on turning this into a nontroversy?


I agree. I think her status as a Sith and desire to eat babies is more of an issue.
 
2013-07-17 09:21:53 PM
Well, I've wandered around the town and the city
Tried to figure the how and the why
Well, Ive got all my schemin
Im not driftin and dreamin
Watching the voter polls by
Here comes that big ole prairie moon risin
Shinin down bright as can be
Up on the hill theres a coyote singin
A Vote of Wyoming for me
 
2013-07-17 09:23:10 PM
Hmmm.  She's worked in the state department, is a lawyer, and has worked for Richard Armitage.  Perfect candidate!
 
2013-07-17 09:25:36 PM
When her father ran for VP in 2000, he claimed Wyoming residency because it's illegal for the President and VP to be residents of the same state and Bush was Gov. of Texas.

How Cheney ran Halliburton, in 2000 a Houston corp., from Wyoming, we can only imagine.  Halliburton didn't even have a regional office in that state.
 
2013-07-17 09:29:20 PM

El Pachuco: When her father ran for VP in 2000, he claimed Wyoming residency because it's illegal for the President and VP to be residents of the same state and Bush was Gov. of Texas.


No it's not.
 
2013-07-17 09:30:01 PM

El Pachuco: When her father ran for VP in 2000, he claimed Wyoming residency because it's illegal for the President and VP to be residents of the same state and Bush was Gov. of Texas.

How Cheney ran Halliburton, in 2000 a Houston corp., from Wyoming, we can only imagine.  Halliburton didn't even have a regional office in that state.


Where the heck did you make that up from?
 
2013-07-17 09:31:29 PM

DamnYankees: I don't have a problem with the carpet-bagging issue as much as I do with the whole "has no experience or professional or intellectual qualifications at all for this job" issue.


...I'd bet a dollar her C.V. Reads better than yours.
 
2013-07-17 09:32:17 PM

WickerNipple: El Pachuco: When her father ran for VP in 2000, he claimed Wyoming residency because it's illegal for the President and VP to be residents of the same state and Bush was Gov. of Texas.

How Cheney ran Halliburton, in 2000 a Houston corp., from Wyoming, we can only imagine.  Halliburton didn't even have a regional office in that state.

Where the heck did you make that up from?


He made it up from a misunderstanding of the twelfth amendment. Cheney did do that though, but also because they misunderstood the twelfth amendment as well.
 
2013-07-17 09:32:20 PM

El Pachuco: When her father ran for VP in 2000, he claimed Wyoming residency because it's illegal for the President and VP to be residents of the same state and Bush was Gov. of Texas.


LOL, no.  Where did you get this?
 
2013-07-17 09:32:34 PM

WickerNipple: El Pachuco: When her father ran for VP in 2000, he claimed Wyoming residency because it's illegal for the President and VP to be residents of the same state and Bush was Gov. of Texas.

How Cheney ran Halliburton, in 2000 a Houston corp., from Wyoming, we can only imagine.  Halliburton didn't even have a regional office in that state.

Where the heck did you make that up from?


http://www.snopes.com/history/american/vicepresident.asp
 
2013-07-17 09:32:53 PM

Emposter: cameroncrazy1984: DamnYankees: I don't have a problem with the carpet-bagging issue as much as I do with the whole "has no experience or professional or intellectual qualifications at all for this job" issue.

Sounds perfect for Wyoming.

And the GOP/Tea Party.

"Anybody who thinks you come here for political reasons has never been here. And they don't understand what a special place this is,"

What could be more special than representing trees and grass?

[images.travelpod.com image 850x637]


To be fair, there are parts of VA that look like that, only more hills.
 
2013-07-17 09:32:55 PM

WickerNipple: El Pachuco: When her father ran for VP in 2000, he claimed Wyoming residency because it's illegal for the President and VP to be residents of the same state and Bush was Gov. of Texas.

How Cheney ran Halliburton, in 2000 a Houston corp., from Wyoming, we can only imagine.  Halliburton didn't even have a regional office in that state.

Where the heck did you make that up from?


This must have been from the time they were worried Obama was going to pick another illegal Kenyan to be his Veep.
 
2013-07-17 09:33:09 PM

calbert: I read that as 'Lon Chaney'

spelling counts, subby


Back OFF, man.

I spells good.
 
2013-07-17 09:36:22 PM

Fjornir: DamnYankees: I don't have a problem with the carpet-bagging issue as much as I do with the whole "has no experience or professional or intellectual qualifications at all for this job" issue.

...I'd bet a dollar her C.V. Reads better than yours.


And GW Bush's CV read better than Obama's.

You did have a point, right?
 
2013-07-17 09:38:46 PM

Satanic_Hamster: WickerNipple: El Pachuco: When her father ran for VP in 2000, he claimed Wyoming residency because it's illegal for the President and VP to be residents of the same state and Bush was Gov. of Texas.

How Cheney ran Halliburton, in 2000 a Houston corp., from Wyoming, we can only imagine.  Halliburton didn't even have a regional office in that state.

Where the heck did you make that up from?

http://www.snopes.com/history/american/vicepresident.asp


Now that I looked into it though, it does present an interesting issue, especially in close races.

Take 2000....

So Bush got 271 electoral votes. But Cheney would have only been able to receive 239 electoral votes for vice pres. The dems would've had 266 votes for their vp. So, you could've had a Bush/Lieberman presidency.
 
2013-07-17 09:45:14 PM

creepy ass-cracka: IlGreven: ...wait, isn't Wyoming where her parents gained prominence?  Then saying she's a carpetbagger would be like saying Chelsea Clinton is a carpetbagger if she ran for office in Arkansas. No, she's not.

If I'm not mistaken, the Cheney girls were raised and schooled in one of the richest counties in the U.S., Fairfax, and attended McLean H.S. (a hop, skip and a jump from CIA hq in Langley). I don't know how or why Cheney feels that she can effectively represent the people of Wyoming. But, something similar can most likely be said for CC.

/NoVa resident for the past 30 years.


Wealthy white GoP candidate using rural low information voters for their own personal gain? No way.
 
2013-07-17 09:46:39 PM

kidgenius: Satanic_Hamster: WickerNipple: El Pachuco: When her father ran for VP in 2000, he claimed Wyoming residency because it's illegal for the President and VP to be residents of the same state and Bush was Gov. of Texas.

How Cheney ran Halliburton, in 2000 a Houston corp., from Wyoming, we can only imagine.  Halliburton didn't even have a regional office in that state.

Where the heck did you make that up from?

http://www.snopes.com/history/american/vicepresident.asp

Now that I looked into it though, it does present an interesting issue, especially in close races.

Take 2000....

So Bush got 271 electoral votes. But Cheney would have only been able to receive 239 electoral votes for vice pres. The dems would've had 266 votes for their vp. So, you could've had a Bush/Lieberman presidency.


I smell a potential sitcom here.
 
2013-07-17 09:48:47 PM

whidbey: Fjornir: DamnYankees: I don't have a problem with the carpet-bagging issue as much as I do with the whole "has no experience or professional or intellectual qualifications at all for this job" issue.

...I'd bet a dollar her C.V. Reads better than yours.

And GW Bush's CV read better than Obama's.

You did have a point, right?


I had a point. If Obama was in this thread talking about Dubya being unqualified the cases might be parallel, even.

Are you off your meds again, or something, dude?
 
2013-07-17 09:55:36 PM

Fjornir: whidbey: Fjornir: DamnYankees: I don't have a problem with the carpet-bagging issue as much as I do with the whole "has no experience or professional or intellectual qualifications at all for this job" issue.

...I'd bet a dollar her C.V. Reads better than yours.

And GW Bush's CV read better than Obama's.

You did have a point, right?

I had a point. If Obama was in this thread talking about Dubya being unqualified the cases might be parallel, even.

Are you off your meds again, or something, dude?



I know, right? I mean, like, who are the voters to decide something like who is the most qualified candidate for the job? The gall!
 
2013-07-17 09:59:42 PM

T-Servo: whidbey: Why is Fark hellbent on turning this into a nontroversy?

I agree. I think her status as a Sith and desire to eat babies is more of an issue.


The Empire Strikes Again.
 
2013-07-17 10:01:24 PM
At least Wyoming is a US state, unlike Kenya
 
2013-07-17 10:07:10 PM

Uncle Pim: Fjornir: whidbey: Fjornir: DamnYankees: I don't have a problem with the carpet-bagging issue as much as I do with the whole "has no experience or professional or intellectual qualifications at all for this job" issue.

...I'd bet a dollar her C.V. Reads better than yours.

And GW Bush's CV read better than Obama's.

You did have a point, right?

I had a point. If Obama was in this thread talking about Dubya being unqualified the cases might be parallel, even.

Are you off your meds again, or something, dude?


I know, right? I mean, like, who are the voters to decide something like who is the most qualified candidate for the job? The gall!


...I don't like her politics or anything, I was just challenging DamnYankees attempt at criticism as "ignorant in the extreme" since, like her or not, she has excellent credentials.
 
2013-07-17 10:09:30 PM
She was a carpetbagger... until she ate it
 
2013-07-17 10:13:59 PM

Notabunny: At least Wyoming is a US state, unlike Kenya


States are lame commonwealths are where the cool people hang out.
 
2013-07-17 10:14:21 PM

Emposter: cameroncrazy1984: DamnYankees: I don't have a problem with the carpet-bagging issue as much as I do with the whole "has no experience or professional or intellectual qualifications at all for this job" issue.

Sounds perfect for Wyoming.

And the GOP/Tea Party.

"Anybody who thinks you come here for political reasons has never been here. And they don't understand what a special place this is,"

What could be more special than representing trees and grass?

[images.travelpod.com image 850x637]


Lots of fossils to be found there.  (tee up joke about her dad and/or republican politics)
 
2013-07-17 10:31:29 PM

Abner Doon: El Pachuco: When her father ran for VP in 2000, he claimed Wyoming residency because it's illegal for the President and VP to be residents of the same state and Bush was Gov. of Texas.

LOL, no.  Where did you get this?


the-op.com
 
2013-07-17 10:34:12 PM

Fjornir: whidbey: Fjornir: DamnYankees: I don't have a problem with the carpet-bagging issue as much as I do with the whole "has no experience or professional or intellectual qualifications at all for this job" issue.

...I'd bet a dollar her C.V. Reads better than yours.

And GW Bush's CV read better than Obama's.

You did have a point, right?

I had a point. If Obama was in this thread talking about Dubya being unqualified the cases might be parallel, even.

Are you off your meds again, or something, dude?


No, but I agree that I hate it when armchair pundits biatch about what "qualifies" someone for office.

There is only one qualification: age. Sorry if that makes you mad.
 
2013-07-17 10:45:23 PM

DamnYankees: I don't have a problem with the carpet-bagging issue as much as I do with the whole "has no experience or professional or intellectual qualifications at all for this job" issue.


My issue is more of the "daughter of one of most damaging politicians in American history who thinks he was right" issue.
 
2013-07-17 10:46:47 PM

Click Click D'oh: DamnYankees: I don't have a problem with the carpet-bagging issue as much as I do with the whole "has no experience or professional or intellectual qualifications at all for this job" issue.

Yes, but enough about Barack Obamas 2008 Presidential campaign.


You mean Senator Obama, or State Senator Obama?

Oh, that's right...you mean "community organizer" Obama.
 
2013-07-17 10:51:10 PM

Fjornir: ...I'd bet a dollar her C.V. Reads better than yours.


Patronage and Daddy paying for college and law school can do a lot for a CV. Not saying that she didn't earn her degrees, just that her running for office has more to do with who Daddy is and less to do with who she is.
 
2013-07-17 10:53:12 PM

The Lone Gunman: Click Click D'oh: DamnYankees: I don't have a problem with the carpet-bagging issue as much as I do with the whole "has no experience or professional or intellectual qualifications at all for this job" issue.

Yes, but enough about Barack Obamas 2008 Presidential campaign.

You mean Senator Obama, or State Senator Obama?

Oh, that's right...you mean "community organizer" Obama.


I thought he meant "blah" Obama.
 
2013-07-17 10:53:31 PM

The Lone Gunman: DamnYankees: I don't have a problem with the carpet-bagging issue as much as I do with the whole "has no experience or professional or intellectual qualifications at all for this job" issue.

My issue is more of the "daughter of one of most damaging politicians in American history who thinks he was right" issue.


Somehow, I don't think Wyoming at large would have a problem with that. The first thing I saw when I drove over the border there was a billboard telling us to "STOP OBAMA SOCIALISM!."
 
2013-07-17 10:58:53 PM

whidbey: The Lone Gunman: DamnYankees: I don't have a problem with the carpet-bagging issue as much as I do with the whole "has no experience or professional or intellectual qualifications at all for this job" issue.

My issue is more of the "daughter of one of most damaging politicians in American history who thinks he was right" issue.

Somehow, I don't think Wyoming at large would have a problem with that. The first thing I saw when I drove over the border there was a billboard telling us to "STOP OBAMA SOCIALISM!."


Yeah, I'm not saying that she wouldn't win.  I'm saying that Wyomans would be stupid for doing so.  Although you have to assume that about the state that get more in federal aid that pay into the system via taxes...and then biatch about paying taxes.
 
2013-07-17 11:15:31 PM
The Lone Gunman:
Although you have to assume that about the state that get more in federal aid that pay into the system via taxes...and then biatch about paying taxes.

images.sodahead.com
   Future Liz Cheney supporter
 
2013-07-17 11:20:56 PM

IlGreven: ...wait, isn't Wyoming where her parents gained prominence?  Then saying she's a carpetbagger would be like saying Chelsea Clinton is a carpetbagger if she ran for office in Arkansas. No, she's not.


Her father is Wyoming all the way. Used to be the congressperson from Wyoming.
 
2013-07-17 11:25:00 PM

Kevin72: IlGreven: ...wait, isn't Wyoming where her parents gained prominence?  Then saying she's a carpetbagger would be like saying Chelsea Clinton is a carpetbagger if she ran for office in Arkansas. No, she's not.

Her father is Wyoming all the way. Used to be the congressperson from Wyoming.


Poor farking Wyoming.
 
2013-07-17 11:26:56 PM

Abner Doon: El Pachuco: When her father ran for VP in 2000, he claimed Wyoming residency because it's illegal for the President and VP to be residents of the same state and Bush was Gov. of Texas.

LOL, no.  Where did you get this?


Abner Doon: El Pachuco: When her father ran for VP in 2000, he claimed Wyoming residency because it's illegal for the President and VP to be residents of the same state and Bush was Gov. of Texas.

LOL, no.  Where did you get this?


THE CONSTITUTION YOU DOLTS!

No he did not make that up. Cheney changed his voter registration from Texas back to Wyoming.
 
2013-07-17 11:29:38 PM

kidgenius: Satanic_Hamster: WickerNipple: El Pachuco: When her father ran for VP in 2000, he claimed Wyoming residency because it's illegal for the President and VP to be residents of the same state and Bush was Gov. of Texas.

How Cheney ran Halliburton, in 2000 a Houston corp., from Wyoming, we can only imagine.  Halliburton didn't even have a regional office in that state.

Where the heck did you make that up from?

http://www.snopes.com/history/american/vicepresident.asp

Now that I looked into it though, it does present an interesting issue, especially in close races.

Take 2000....

So Bush got 271 electoral votes. But Cheney would have only been able to receive 239 electoral votes for vice pres. The dems would've had 266 votes for their vp. So, you could've had a Bush/Lieberman presidency.


But wouldn't the House of Representatives have chosen the vice president, as no VP candidate would have received a majority?  The House was controlled by republicans at the time.
 
2013-07-17 11:31:02 PM
Monkeyhouse Zendo:Patronage and Daddy paying for college and law school can do a lot for a CV. Not saying that she didn't earn her degrees, just that her running for office has more to do with who Daddy is and less to do with who she is.

I'm not going to argue that point. But the claim that, she "has no experience or professional or intellectual qualifications at all" is bogus.
 
2013-07-17 11:32:03 PM
What does it matter? The Cheneys are an evil bunch of farks. Anyone who votes for a farking Cheney deserves whatever painful death they're eventually going to get.
 
2013-07-17 11:34:32 PM
Actually checking the Snopes article, The pres and vp can be from the same state, but the electoral college electors from that state can not vote twice. In 2000, if Darth Cheney kept his Texas residency, he would not have gotten the Texas electoral votes that Bush did, and Joe Lieberman would have been elected Bush's vice-president.
 
2013-07-17 11:36:12 PM

Kevin72: Actually checking the Snopes article, The pres and vp can be from the same state, but the electoral college electors from that state can not vote twice. In 2000, if Darth Cheney kept his Texas residency, he would not have gotten the Texas electoral votes that Bush did, and Joe Lieberman would have been elected Bush's vice-president.


AKA Dick Cheney lite™
 
2013-07-17 11:42:32 PM

Kevin72: Actually checking the Snopes article, The pres and vp can be from the same state, but the electoral college electors from that state can not vote twice. In 2000, if Darth Cheney kept his Texas residency, he would not have gotten the Texas electoral votes that Bush did, and Joe Lieberman would have been elected Bush's vice-president.


Somehow, that scenario doesn't reassure me.
 
2013-07-17 11:44:26 PM

whidbey: Kevin72: Actually checking the Snopes article, The pres and vp can be from the same state, but the electoral college electors from that state can not vote twice. In 2000, if Darth Cheney kept his Texas residency, he would not have gotten the Texas electoral votes that Bush did, and Joe Lieberman would have been elected Bush's vice-president.

AKA Dick Cheney lite™


What a different world we'd live in today had we fabricated evidence against Iran instead of Iraq...

/we'd have changed one letter on a lot of old news reports, probably
 
2013-07-17 11:50:34 PM

Satanic_Hamster: WickerNipple: El Pachuco: When her father ran for VP in 2000, he claimed Wyoming residency because it's illegal for the President and VP to be residents of the same state and Bush was Gov. of Texas.

How Cheney ran Halliburton, in 2000 a Houston corp., from Wyoming, we can only imagine.  Halliburton didn't even have a regional office in that state.

Where the heck did you make that up from?

http://www.snopes.com/history/american/vicepresident.asp


The Snopes article shows I was correct.  Cheney claimed to be a Wyoming resident despite livinng in Texas.  I could've phrased it better though.
 
2013-07-17 11:53:03 PM
mcnguyen: But wouldn't the House of Representatives have chosen the vice president, as no VP candidate would have received a majority?  The House was controlled by republicans at the time.

I was wrong.  The Senate chooses the VP if none receive a majority.  The Senate was 50-50, so I guess Gore would have cast the tie-breaking vote for Lieberman.
 
2013-07-17 11:54:39 PM
Worked for Al Franken.

/We Minnesotans love the loons.
 
2013-07-17 11:54:55 PM

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: whidbey: Kevin72: Actually checking the Snopes article, The pres and vp can be from the same state, but the electoral college electors from that state can not vote twice. In 2000, if Darth Cheney kept his Texas residency, he would not have gotten the Texas electoral votes that Bush did, and Joe Lieberman would have been elected Bush's vice-president.

AKA Dick Cheney lite™

What a different world we'd live in today had we fabricated evidence against Iran instead of Iraq...

/we'd have changed one letter on a lot of old news reports, probably


Well we sure wouldn't have had MLK on the 20 dollar bill.....
 
2013-07-18 12:05:39 AM
And this is important.

Because she's a Republican.

As opposed to Hillary running in NY.
 
2013-07-18 12:09:20 AM
FUN FACT:  If every single resident of the state of Wyoming dropped dead tomorrow, it would still be entitled to one Representative in the House and two Senators.

/that's a f*cked up system
 
2013-07-18 12:12:58 AM

El Pachuco: Satanic_Hamster: WickerNipple: El Pachuco: When her father ran for VP in 2000, he claimed Wyoming residency because it's illegal for the President and VP to be residents of the same state and Bush was Gov. of Texas.

How Cheney ran Halliburton, in 2000 a Houston corp., from Wyoming, we can only imagine.  Halliburton didn't even have a regional office in that state.

Where the heck did you make that up from?

http://www.snopes.com/history/american/vicepresident.asp

The Snopes article shows I was correct.  Cheney claimed to be a Wyoming resident despite livinng in Texas.  I could've phrased it better though.


No it doesn't.
 
2013-07-18 12:27:22 AM
DirtyDeadGhostofEbenezerCooke: FUN FACT:  If every single resident of the state of Wyoming dropped dead tomorrow, it would still be entitled to one Representative in the House and two Senators.

/that's a f*cked up system


Well in every single resident of Kalifornia dropped dead tomorrow it would still be entitled to its 50something reps till the reapportionment after the 2020 census, whats your point?
 
2013-07-18 12:28:26 AM

randomjsa: And this is important.

Because she's a Republican.

As opposed to Hillary running in NY.


Well, for one thing, Hogface,  Hillary's father wasn't Darth Rodham.
And for another: Cry, little baby, cry.
 
2013-07-18 12:45:33 AM
fark all cheneys for all farking time.
 
2013-07-18 12:47:19 AM

whidbey: Kevin72: Actually checking the Snopes article, The pres and vp can be from the same state, but the electoral college electors from that state can not vote twice. In 2000, if Darth Cheney kept his Texas residency, he would not have gotten the Texas electoral votes that Bush did, and Joe Lieberman would have been elected Bush's vice-president.

AKA Dick Cheney lite™


lol...you actually believe it was a fair election?
lol
lol
lol
 
2013-07-18 12:48:44 AM
you probably do not.

but it is still funny.

-after all of the bullshiat...americans still stay in their easy chairs.

i am not entertained.
 
2013-07-18 12:49:01 AM

12349876: IlGreven: ...wait, isn't Wyoming where her parents gained prominence?  Then saying she's a carpetbagger would be like saying Chelsea Clinton is a carpetbagger if she ran for office in Arkansas. No, she's not.

Wikipedia says she was born in Madison Wisconsin and graduated high school in NOVA and did her higher education in the Colorado and Illinois.

And here's what Rand Paul.

Surely a person like you wouldn't disagree with the almighty RAND PAUL, would you?

"When I heard Liz Cheney was running for Senate I wondered if she was running in her home state of Virginia," Paul said.
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/07/rand-paul-liz-cheney-senate-bi d- 94308.html


I'm just saying that it would be like Chelsea being called a CB'er for running for office in Arkansas.  Now I see I was wrong.

Also...have you ever seen me post here?
 
2013-07-18 01:04:56 AM

Satanic_Hamster: El Pachuco: Satanic_Hamster: WickerNipple: El Pachuco: When her father ran for VP in 2000, he claimed Wyoming residency because it's illegal for the President and VP to be residents of the same state and Bush was Gov. of Texas.

How Cheney ran Halliburton, in 2000 a Houston corp., from Wyoming, we can only imagine.  Halliburton didn't even have a regional office in that state.

Where the heck did you make that up from?

http://www.snopes.com/history/american/vicepresident.asp

The Snopes article shows I was correct.  Cheney claimed to be a Wyoming resident despite livinng in Texas.  I could've phrased it better though.

No it doesn't.


From wiki:

A few months before the election Cheney put his home in Dallas up for sale and changed his drivers' license and voter registration back to Wyoming. This change was necessary to allow Texas' presidential electors to vote for both Bush and Cheney without contravening the Twelfth Amendment to the United States Constitution, which forbids electors from voting for someone from their own state for both President and Vice President.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Cheney


The Electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelfth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_ Co nstitution
 
2013-07-18 01:55:32 AM

DamnYankees: I don't have a problem with the carpet-bagging issue as much as I do with the whole "has no experience or professional or intellectual qualifications at all for this job" issue.


Has no experience? But I thought we all hate career politicians. Plus isn't it the duty of the citizenry to engage in civic affairs like governance?
 
2013-07-18 01:57:22 AM
milsorgen:
Has no experience? But I thought we all hate career politicians. Plus isn't it the duty of the citizenry to engage in civic affairs like governance?

Probably not when their very own father is a war criminal, no.
 
2013-07-18 01:57:26 AM

Bauer: I am not entertained.

lol
lol
lol
lol


o rly?
 
2013-07-18 02:36:25 AM
Does it matter who the senators from Wyoming are?
 
2013-07-18 02:41:41 AM

IlGreven: ...wait, isn't Wyoming where her parents gained prominence?  Then saying she's a carpetbagger would be like saying Chelsea Clinton is a carpetbagger if she ran for office in Arkansas. No, she's not.


Speaking of Clintons, and we were, didn't Hillary run for Senate from a state to which her strongest connection was being a Mets fan?
 
2013-07-18 02:45:47 AM
jjorsett: IlGreven: ...wait, isn't Wyoming where her parents gained prominence?  Then saying she's a carpetbagger would be like saying Chelsea Clinton is a carpetbagger if she ran for office in Arkansas. No, she's not.

Speaking of Clintons, and we were, didn't Hillary run for Senate from a state to which her strongest connection was being a Mets fan?


Well at least she wasn't a Yankees fan.
 
2013-07-18 02:54:43 AM

Click Click D'oh: DamnYankees: I don't have a problem with the carpet-bagging issue as much as I do with the whole "has no experience or professional or intellectual qualifications at all for this job" issue.

Yes, but enough about Barack Obamas 2008 Presidential campaign.


0/10
 
2013-07-18 03:02:02 AM
New York has a long history of senators from other places. RFK was a New York Senator. We don't have a particular problem. Senator Clinton also was very good at the job - she fought for a lot of important things, especially first responders after 9/11.

But then again, NY has always been a place for immigrants. Wyoming meanwhile is part of that republican base who mocked Hillary and were the ones more so than most New Yorkers calling her a carpetbagger.
 
2013-07-18 03:43:58 AM

Three Crooked Squirrels: IlGreven: ...wait, isn't Wyoming where her parents gained prominence?  Then saying she's a carpetbagger would be like saying Chelsea Clinton is a carpetbagger if she ran for office in Arkansas. No, she's not.

That is for the people of Wyoming to decide. Outside Wyoming, it's not really up to us, like when Hilary ran in NY.

However, it's a perfectly legitimate question for the people of Wyoming to ask when deciding who to vote for.


Yea, Yea, Yea... When was Wyoming's decision making ability stripped away, Nannygoat? No one said Wyoming wasn't going to make this decision, we're just discussing Liz "the destroyer" Cheney classy action. What does she know about Wyoming, if she doesn't know Czechoslovakia has not existed since 1992?
 
2013-07-18 05:39:35 AM

Click Click D'oh: DamnYankees: I don't have a problem with the carpet-bagging issue as much as I do with the whole "has no experience or professional or intellectual qualifications at all for this job" issue.

Yes, but enough about Barack Obamas 2008 Presidential campaign.


thefinereport.com
 
2013-07-18 07:44:15 AM
She may not be a carpetbagger, but I've heard she is a rug muncher.
 
2013-07-18 07:47:09 AM

HighOnCraic: The Electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelfth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_ Co nstitution


Yes, and....?

Again, it's not illegal for the President and Vice President to be from the same state.
 
2013-07-18 07:54:23 AM
Oh ok, it's only deserving of mockery when a Republican does it.
 
2013-07-18 08:09:09 AM

RevRaven: Oh ok, it's only deserving of mockery when a Republican does it.


I thought it was a shady move when Clinton did it too. But please, tell me more about what I think.
 
2013-07-18 08:14:22 AM

Oldiron_79: DirtyDeadGhostofEbenezerCooke: FUN FACT:  If every single resident of the state of Wyoming dropped dead tomorrow, it would still be entitled to one Representative in the House and two Senators.

/that's a f*cked up system

Well in every single resident of Kalifornia dropped dead tomorrow it would still be entitled to its 50something reps till the reapportionment after the 2020 census, whats your point?


Representation by geography rather than population farktard-level stupid.  Unlike California, Wyoming is over-represented even if ever single resident lives.
 
2013-07-18 08:45:21 AM
Caught a few minutes of a TV documentary entitled, "The World According to Dick Cheney" the other night.  It was like a Steven King novel.
 
2013-07-18 08:50:35 AM

DamnYankees: "has no experience or professional or intellectual qualifications at all for this job"


Well you see, that only applies to black people.
 
2013-07-18 09:20:23 AM

HighOnCraic: Satanic_Hamster: El Pachuco: Satanic_Hamster: WickerNipple: El Pachuco: When her father ran for VP in 2000, he claimed Wyoming residency because it's illegal for the President and VP to be residents of the same state and Bush was Gov. of Texas.

How Cheney ran Halliburton, in 2000 a Houston corp., from Wyoming, we can only imagine.  Halliburton didn't even have a regional office in that state.

Where the heck did you make that up from?

http://www.snopes.com/history/american/vicepresident.asp

The Snopes article shows I was correct.  Cheney claimed to be a Wyoming resident despite livinng in Texas.  I could've phrased it better though.

No it doesn't.

From wiki:

A few months before the election Cheney put his home in Dallas up for sale and changed his drivers' license and voter registration back to Wyoming. This change was necessary to allow Texas' presidential electors to vote for both Bush and Cheney without contravening the Twelfth Amendment to the United States Constitution, which forbids electors from voting for someone from their own state for both President and Vice President.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Cheney


The Electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelfth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_ Co nstitution


You are right that Cheney changed residency to Wyoming for electoral purposes.   However, you are wrong that it'd be illegal for them to be running mates and from the same state.  It'd be perfectly legal for them to both claim Texas residency and run for President; however, it'd then be illegal for the Texas electors to vote for the both of them, meaning that they'd have to cast their Presidential vote for Bush and their Vice Presidential vote for someone else entirely.  Considering how close that election was, that would mean we'd have ended up with a Bush/Lieberman administration.
 
2013-07-18 09:28:36 AM

DamnYankees: I don't have a problem with the carpet-bagging issue as much as I do with the whole "has no experience or professional or intellectual qualifications at all for this job" issue.


{cough} Hillary {cough}
 
2013-07-18 09:32:40 AM

Abner Doon: El Pachuco: When her father ran for VP in 2000, he claimed Wyoming residency because it's illegal for the President and VP to be residents of the same state and Bush was Gov. of Texas.

LOL, no.  Where did you get this?


Probably got it from one of the FarkLibtard manifestos, you know, Media Matters, Daily KOS, HuffPo.
 
2013-07-18 09:41:41 AM

Tumunga: DamnYankees: I don't have a problem with the carpet-bagging issue as much as I do with the whole "has no experience or professional or intellectual qualifications at all for this job" issue.

{cough} Hillary {cough}


Are you asserting that Hillary Clinton has neither the professional or intellectual qualifications, nor the experience, for public office?
 
2013-07-18 10:01:42 AM

manimal2878: DamnYankees: "has no experience or professional or intellectual qualifications at all for this job"

Well you see, that only applies to black people.


Incidentally, they don't have many of them in Wyoming.
 
2013-07-18 01:31:48 PM

BarkingUnicorn: Caught a few minutes of a TV documentary entitled, "The World According to Dick Cheney" the other night.  It was like a Steven King novel.


I watched some of that a couple of weeks ago.  All that I could think, as Cheney mumbled like an automaton about caring for the "welfare and safety of the country", is that I have written Visual Basic code that has contained more compassion, sincerity and humanity than this heartless (literally and morally) dickhead who is destined, upon his death, to simultaneously occupy the Fourth, Seventh, Eighth, and Ninth Circles of Hell.
 
2013-07-18 02:50:19 PM
well considering her dad grew up there and was a member of the House of Representatives for Wyoming, there's a bit of history. Granted, SHE didn't do those things, but she came to Wyoming for a reason.
 
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