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(Courier Mail)   Police earn $9 million extra revenue by reprogramming speed cameras to ticket for 1 mph over limit   (couriermail.com.au) divider line 103
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2013-07-17 05:12:26 PM  
Yeah, 1mph over is silly... but how hard is it to avoid these things?  At least in my state, they require a sign that says "speed camera ahead".  And if you know enough about the neighborhood, you know where they are anyway.

Its a 25 MPH street... I slow to 20 MPH for a few blocks when passing it, then go along my merry way.

I'm not a speeder, but I'd think people who are speeders would favor these compared to cops hiding in random places.
 
2013-07-17 05:49:39 PM  
lets stop effing around with it and do what some of the Baltic countries do. Set up red light and speed cameras all over the place and just ticket the fark out of everyone. Since most of the camera tickets don't count against you on insurance (the state just sends you a bill and doesn't tell anyone else) it is just a matter of deciding if you want to pay a little extra to get to your destination faster.

Rich people love it cause they can just speed like a motherfarker and average people love it because that means they dont have a ton of cops out there stopping you for bs reasons like failing to signal a lane change.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-07-17 05:54:41 PM  
I don't mind letting people to volunteer to pay the cost of running local government instead of taxing people.
 
2013-07-17 06:02:52 PM  
It's too easy to make an accuracy argument if your margin of error is only 1 mph.
 
2013-07-17 06:03:39 PM  
Oh and it's 1 km/h. Jeez that's even worse.
 
2013-07-17 06:03:59 PM  
The article says they reduced the tolerance by 1KPH, not reduced it to 1 over the posted limit.
 
2013-07-17 06:04:48 PM  
Technically, it's 1 km/h which is .6 mph
 
2013-07-17 06:04:50 PM  
Tinfoil hat time

The government can hack your car to make your speedometer read 3-5 mph under what you're actually doing so they can ticket you.

/paranoia
 
2013-07-17 06:05:01 PM  
In regards to the headline, that's not what the article says. It says they lowered the tolerance by 1 kph (not mph), and that they wouldn't release what number for tolerance they were using. This likely means that you can go 68 kph and be fine, but once you hit 69 you'll get a ticket.
 
2013-07-17 06:06:45 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: lets stop effing around with it and do what some of the Baltic countries do. Set up red light and speed cameras all over the place and just ticket the fark out of everyone. Since most of the camera tickets don't count against you on insurance (the state just sends you a bill and doesn't tell anyone else) it is just a matter of deciding if you want to pay a little extra to get to your destination faster.

Rich people love it cause they can just speed like a motherfarker and average people love it because that means they dont have a ton of cops out there stopping you for bs reasons like failing to signal a lane change.


I visited friends in the Netherlands in the early '90s. My friend took me for a fast drive around the entire country, and by the end of the day had accumulated over 1,500 Guilders in fines, due to their traffic cameras. I told him that there was no way that Americans would stand for such high-handed tactics. Boy, was I ever wrong!
 
2013-07-17 06:07:06 PM  
#DEFINE MILES_OVER $2000

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2013-07-17 06:09:09 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: lets stop effing around with it and do what some of the Baltic countries do. Set up red light and speed cameras all over the place and just ticket the fark out of everyone. Since most of the camera tickets don't count against you on insurance (the state just sends you a bill and doesn't tell anyone else) it is just a matter of deciding if you want to pay a little extra to get to your destination faster.

Rich people love it cause they can just speed like a motherfarker and average people love it because that means they dont have a ton of cops out there stopping you for bs reasons like failing to signal a lane change.


FU if you don't signal a lane change. I don't really care about speeding as long as your within 10 mph of traffic and keep 2-3 second between you and the car in front. But jumping into someone else's buffer without warning is dangerous as hell. In heavy traffic it can cause a pileup making shiat even worse for 100000 people. Its seriously not that hard to flip the switch 10 seconds in advance.
 
2013-07-17 06:10:46 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: Tinfoil hat time

The government can hack your car to make your speedometer read 3-5 mph under what you're actually doing so they can ticket you.

/paranoia


25.media.tumblr.com

We're through the looking glass here, people.
 
2013-07-17 06:10:54 PM  
Nice jorb, subby.
 
2013-07-17 06:10:55 PM  
So what is the allowed margin of error in speedometers? If speed cameras are more accurate, this shows a major disconnect - you know, the sort of thing which can cost a township a shiat load of legal fees if it all goes pear-shaped.
Eeejits!
 
2013-07-17 06:11:26 PM  
Queensland Police Service refuse to reveal the new tolerance levels.

We're lowering it. We're not telling you what it is. But it's even lower than it used to be.

Better get used to doing some high-level physics in your head when you need to merge or go up/down a hill.
 
2013-07-17 06:11:55 PM  
That must make the roads a lot safer
 
2013-07-17 06:11:56 PM  

miss diminutive: Smeggy Smurf: Tinfoil hat time

The government can hack your car to make your speedometer read 3-5 mph under what you're actually doing so they can ticket you.

/paranoia

[25.media.tumblr.com image 383x287]

We're through the looking glass here, people.


3.5 m,ph thats how fast i run on the treadmill
 
2013-07-17 06:11:56 PM  

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: I visited friends in the Netherlands in the early '90s. My friend took me for a fast drive around the entire country, and by the end of the day had accumulated over 1,500 Guilders in fines, due to their traffic cameras. I told him that there was no way that Americans would stand for such high-handed tactics. Boy, was I ever wrong!


So that's like a buck fifty five?

My personal favorite thing about the traffic cops in Lithuania is if they do stop you for going the wrong way on a one way street or something like that you can just pay them the fine then and there and not worry about it.

I asked my wife if she got a receipt and she just laughed at me.
 
2013-07-17 06:13:38 PM  

Cucullen: FU if you don't signal a lane change. I don't really care about speeding as long as your within 10 mph of traffic and keep 2-3 second between you and the car in front. But jumping into someone else's buffer without warning is dangerous as hell. In heavy traffic it can cause a pileup making shiat even worse for 100000 people. Its seriously not that hard to flip the switch 10 seconds in advance.


You got issues about that one don't you?

What if it's just you and the cop on the freeway and the cop is half a mile behind you? Still against the law, but should you get a ticket?
 
2013-07-17 06:13:55 PM  

downstairs: Yeah, 1mph over is silly... but how hard is it to avoid these things?  At least in my state, they require a sign that says "speed camera ahead".  And if you know enough about the neighborhood, you know where they are anyway.

Its a 25 MPH street... I slow to 20 MPH for a few blocks when passing it, then go along my merry way.

I'm not a speeder, but I'd think people who are speeders would favor these compared to cops hiding in random places.


Because camera's never make mistakes.  Ever.  They are a perfect technology that solves all their safety^M^M^M^M^M^M revenue problems.

/perfect
 
2013-07-17 06:14:16 PM  

miss diminutive: Smeggy Smurf: Tinfoil hat time

The government can hack your car to make your speedometer read 3-5 mph under what you're actually doing so they can ticket you.

/paranoia

[25.media.tumblr.com image 383x287]

We're through the looking glass here, people.


Or have they gotten to YOU TOO!
 
2013-07-17 06:14:31 PM  
In before the "don't speed no problem" DB's.........oh........never mind.
 
2013-07-17 06:14:51 PM  

Cucullen: FU if you don't signal a lane change. I don't really care about speeding as long as your within 10 mph of traffic and keep 2-3 second between you and the car in front.


I agree, and it's the one offense that almost everyone from my hometown commits regularly. I think it's because it's such a small town, that everyone assumes that everyone else knows where they're going.

/it's safest just to wave at every oncoming car, because at least one occupant is probably a relation
 
2013-07-17 06:15:03 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Cucullen: FU if you don't signal a lane change. I don't really care about speeding as long as your within 10 mph of traffic and keep 2-3 second between you and the car in front. But jumping into someone else's buffer without warning is dangerous as hell. In heavy traffic it can cause a pileup making shiat even worse for 100000 people. Its seriously not that hard to flip the switch 10 seconds in advance.

You got issues about that one don't you?

What if it's just you and the cop on the freeway and the cop is half a mile behind you? Still against the law, but should you get a ticket?


u said cop twice u must really like bacon

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2013-07-17 06:15:32 PM  

Tillmaster: So what is the allowed margin of error in speedometers? If speed cameras are more accurate, this shows a major disconnect - you know, the sort of thing which can cost a township a shiat load of legal fees if it all goes pear-shaped.
Eeejits!


I looked into this for other reasons not long ago.  Federal standards in the USA require that speedometer only be accurate within 10%.
 
2013-07-17 06:16:46 PM  

Tillmaster: So what is the allowed margin of error in speedometers?


I assume most speedometers have a tolerance of ±2MPH at 50MPH in most cases.  A lot of it depends on the size of your current tires versus those that came from the factory.  When I installed off road tires on my pickup truck, mine was off by 4MPH at 60MPH (or so the cop who pulled me over accused me of).
 
2013-07-17 06:19:33 PM  

Jon iz teh kewl: u said cop twice u must really like bacon


Who doesn't like bacon?
 
2013-07-17 06:19:43 PM  
Disgusting.
 
2013-07-17 06:20:11 PM  
That's not what the article said, subby. It said that a planned reduction by 1 km/h will net the windfall, not that the acceptable speed is being reduced to 1 km/h over.

Then again, it also didn't say that they are doing it to generate some more of that filthy, filthy lucre to shore up their budgets, instead we get a steady diet of "safety" reasons which only coincidentally bring in a whole shiat-ton of loot. We all know the truth, though. Politicians will throw all of their constituents into prison if they can get fat off them.
 
2013-07-17 06:20:48 PM  
Because the voters demanded it.

/wait what?
 
2013-07-17 06:21:27 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: I visited friends in the Netherlands in the early '90s. My friend took me for a fast drive around the entire country, and by the end of the day had accumulated over 1,500 Guilders in fines, due to their traffic cameras. I told him that there was no way that Americans would stand for such high-handed tactics. Boy, was I ever wrong!

So that's like a buck fifty five?


About $945 in USD (October 1992)
 
2013-07-17 06:21:50 PM  

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: The Stealth Hippopotamus: lets stop effing around with it and do what some of the Baltic countries do. Set up red light and speed cameras all over the place and just ticket the fark out of everyone. Since most of the camera tickets don't count against you on insurance (the state just sends you a bill and doesn't tell anyone else) it is just a matter of deciding if you want to pay a little extra to get to your destination faster.

Rich people love it cause they can just speed like a motherfarker and average people love it because that means they dont have a ton of cops out there stopping you for bs reasons like failing to signal a lane change.

I visited friends in the Netherlands in the early '90s. My friend took me for a fast drive around the entire country, and by the end of the day had accumulated over 1,500 Guilders in fines, due to their traffic cameras. I told him that there was no way that Americans would stand for such high-handed tactics. Boy, was I ever wrong!


The article is from an Australian website. Most places in America still don't have any speed cameras. A few have red-light cameras.
 
2013-07-17 06:22:27 PM  
All I can say is fark them!!!! That just pisses me off
 
2013-07-17 06:22:32 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Jon iz teh kewl: u said cop twice u must really like bacon

Who doesn't like bacon?


miami fix a flat butt pumper
 
2013-07-17 06:23:21 PM  

Awesome T-Shirt: Most places in America still don't have any speed cameras.


We had 'em in Arizona for a few years. Now there is a law specifically against them.
 
2013-07-17 06:24:06 PM  
In MD it is illegal to drive a car on a given road if it is not capable of 5 mph OVER the posted limit.
 
2013-07-17 06:24:14 PM  
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2013-07-17 06:24:18 PM  
The change of 1 km/h doesn't mean you get ticketed going 1 km/h over the limit. They adjusted the OVERALL tolerance by 1 km/h. Meaning if it was 11, now it's 10. They refuse to answer what the actual tolerance is because, "motorists should be treating the speed limit as a "limit" and not be concerned with how much faster they can go without being fined."

Reading comprehension, it's your friend!
 
2013-07-17 06:27:03 PM  

vpb: I don't mind letting people to volunteer to pay the cost of running local government instead of taxing people.


Yeah this will definitely lead to lower taxes.

lol
 
2013-07-17 06:28:54 PM  

Cucullen: The Stealth Hippopotamus: lets stop effing around with it and do what some of the Baltic countries do. Set up red light and speed cameras all over the place and just ticket the fark out of everyone. Since most of the camera tickets don't count against you on insurance (the state just sends you a bill and doesn't tell anyone else) it is just a matter of deciding if you want to pay a little extra to get to your destination faster.

Rich people love it cause they can just speed like a motherfarker and average people love it because that means they dont have a ton of cops out there stopping you for bs reasons like failing to signal a lane change.

FU if you don't signal a lane change. I don't really care about speeding as long as your within 10 mph of traffic and keep 2-3 second between you and the car in front. But jumping into someone else's buffer without warning is dangerous as hell. In heavy traffic it can cause a pileup making shiat even worse for 100000 people. Its seriously not that hard to flip the switch 10 seconds in advance.


I agree with so much of what you said here... until you got to the 10 seconds part. It should be 2-3 seconds at highway speeds. You don't need to have your blinker on for a fifth of a mile to change lanes. Most newer cars now are including 'touch to change lanes' indicators. They blink three times. That is an appropriate number for a lane change.

Ignore what I'm saying if the 10 seconds you're talking about is in stop-and-go traffic or very heavy congestion. But if traffic is flowing, 10 seconds is overkill.
 
2013-07-17 06:29:26 PM  
FTA: "It seems people expect more lenience, and to me there's a broader underlying issue of why we've got to push every possible margin,"

A speed limit assigns an arbitrary boundary between "safe" and "unsafe" when no clear boundary actually exists.  I can exceed a posted limit by a few Km/H and chances are that I'll still be relatively safe if conditions are right.

If tolerances for speed limits are greatly reduced, then it might be time to have dynamic limits that are adjusted due to nighttime and weather conditions, given that most limits are designed to cover a multitude of conditions..  Bump that 60Km/H to 70Km/H for dry daylight hours with good visibility, dropping to various other speeds at dusk, night, rain and/or fog.

Also, the lack of a graduated penalty depending on the severity of the violation is stupid.  Exceeding the limit by 2Km/H is not the same as exceeding it by 8Km/H, especially in residential areas where the limit may be as low as 35Km/H.  If you're going to fine me the same, then I sure as fark am going to push that margin.  Why not?  If enforcement is 100%, it doesn't matter.
 
2013-07-17 06:29:49 PM  
Do this again...

Link
 
2013-07-17 06:32:00 PM  

ko_kyi: In MD it is illegal to drive a car on a given road if it is not capable of 5 mph OVER the posted limit.


Living in MD and didn't know that, interesting.  This place is rife with red light and speeding cams.  I take a certain pride in knowing where they all are on my frequented routes, and i let other drivers know by tapping my break light.
 
2013-07-17 06:32:03 PM  

Kuoxasar: vpb: I don't mind letting people to volunteer to pay the cost of running local government instead of taxing people.

Yeah this will definitely lead to lower taxes.

lol


I know, right? He'll get his taxes raised to pay for more cameras.
 
2013-07-17 06:32:38 PM  
We are finally getting to vote on red light and speed cameras this fall, and I'm looking forward to their demise. I know very few people here who haven't gotten a camera ticket, and most of us were previously ticket-less. A police officer can observe the situation and exercise judgment when it comes to ticketing. A camera can't.

I got my red-light camera ticket because the car in front of me panicked and braked hard when the left-turn arrow turned yellow, leaving both of us in no-man's land. I hope to God she got a ticket, too.

Why the voters weren't allowed to vote on whether or not to install the cameras in the first place, I have no idea.

/Who am I kidding? I have some idea.
 
2013-07-17 06:36:16 PM  
I hope they can prove that they are accurate to within 1 km/h, or a good lawyer is going to be able to put a dent in that revenue stream.
 
2013-07-17 06:41:05 PM  
The Stealth Hippopotamus: ...  average people love it because that means they dont have a ton of cops out there stopping you for bs reasons like failing to signal a lane change.

It is out of line to hope that there would be a ton of cops tazing people who don't signal?

And drive five miles below the speed limit in the fast lane of the freeway?

And love to fark up traffic by stopping in the middle of the street to let a car pull out or pedestrian jaywalk?

/ Why yes, I do live in Seattle ... how'd you guess?
 
2013-07-17 06:46:10 PM  
Heh yeah, you kinda touch a nerve rubbed raw by years of enduring jackasses in BMWs and chromed out pickup trucks driving like idiots in heavy traffic.
I know what you mean though. You should still signal to reinforce the habit, but I agree it doesn't matter if no one is around.
 
2013-07-17 06:54:16 PM  
If they are going to enforce "the limit" as the absolute, then all cars should be required from the manufacturer to have a certified calibrated speedometer.
I use my GPS, when driving to check my speed, and when I pass one of those blinking signs
that tells your speed, the GPS & the speed sign always show the same.
If my GPS says I'm driving 65mph, the speedometer says I'm doing almost 70mph.
(the analog needle type, not the digital type).
Yeah, most officers will give you 5-10mph before they come after you, unless they are
in a bad mood, or just like writing tickets, but, there is no law that says they can't write
you for 1mph above "the limit".  The limit doesn't technically mean "70mph, up to 80mph
before we give you a ticket".  It means that the LIMIT is 70
 
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