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(Think Progress)   Candidate in VA governor's race campaigns on attempting to restore unconstitutional ban on oral sex and sodomy. Tag: By tying it to child molestation   (thinkprogress.org) divider line 47
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2013-07-17 05:04:42 PM
7 votes:

The Muthaship: James!: The Muthaship: The Why Not Guy: How proud you Republicans must be.

Anybody who proudly states they are a member of either major party is a moron.

Are both sides bad?

No, both sides a terrible.


Call me when both sides are trying to make blow-jobs illegal. Until then I'm voting Democrat.
2013-07-17 02:22:14 PM
6 votes:
I think we really are at the point where "social conservative" has become a noun to describe someone who is constantly thinking about f*cking children.
2013-07-17 02:50:44 PM
5 votes:
"My view is that homosexual acts, not homosexuality, but homosexual acts are wrong. They're intrinsically wrong. And I think in a natural law based country it's appropriate to have policies that reflect that. ... They don't comport with natural law."

Most animals engage in homosexuality.  Are animals not natural?  In fact, homo sapiens is the only species that both engages in homosexual acts and then actually gives a shiat about it.  THAT is what is unnatural.
2013-07-17 05:16:22 PM
4 votes:

o5iiawah: Cant they just write it into the law that it only applies to children?


In 2004, a bipartisan group in the Virginia General Assembly backed a bill that would have brought the law in line with the Supreme Court's ruling. They proposed to eliminate the Crimes Against Nature law's provisions dealing with consenting adults in private and leaving in place provisions relating to prostitution, public sex, and those other than consenting adults. Cuccinelli opposed the bill in committee and helped kill it on the Senate floor.
2013-07-17 07:04:57 PM
3 votes:

theknuckler_33: I like how these morans have co-opted the term "natural law" in a desperate, juvenile attempt at covering up their homophobia.


I just wish they understood that "natural law" includes homosexuality, as such relationships have been documented in human behavior for thousands of years. It's a null term, really - there's no "supernatural law" that stands in opposition, as pretty much ANYTHING WE DO is covered by a "natural law."
2013-07-17 10:10:19 PM
2 votes:

jjorsett: Bloomberg hurr durr NO U!


If you're trying to make some point about the Democratic Party, you might do well to pick a Democratic politician.
2013-07-17 09:30:24 PM
2 votes:
"If any person carnally knows in any manner any brute animal, or carnally knows any male or female person by the anus or by or with the mouth, or voluntarily submits to such carnal knowledge, he or she shall be guilty of a Class 6 felony..."

Now, they could remove this one word, and solve about 30% of the problem right there. Or change the phrasing. Make it clear, if they must, that the law is not about SEX but about RAPE--if only that were their intent. If their intent were to protect children--who cannot consent to sex, no matter what kind of sex it is--then making the law clear by its language that it is about "carnal knowledge" without consent should solve their difficulties.

But obviously a guy who spent his formative years being mercilessly teased about being called COOCHI-nelly can't handle any kind of sex, voluntary or not.
2013-07-17 09:04:45 PM
2 votes:
Okay,the juror poster above made me realize there is one occasion when I'm okay with anti-sodomy laws:as a rider when a rapist uses objects other than body parts. Sort of like special circumstances clauses for murder charges.

Otherwise, I really enjoy giving blowjobs. I'd rather not go to jail for them.
2013-07-17 06:56:32 PM
2 votes:
If you can't put someone in jail for child molestation unless they do something other than penis-in-vagina - then you suck as an attorney general and are in now way fit for a promotion.
2013-07-17 05:12:04 PM
2 votes:
Some states use "crimes against nature" to be especially heavy-handed on prostitutes. Even though they're typically ancient laws that no one actually enforces, the cops can do it. For example, if I'm a female hooker and offer vaginal sex for money, that's one charge, and not a particularly big deal unless I'm a serial offender. However, if I offer oral or anal and the police bust in the motel room while I'm doing it (or, more likely, the john tells the cops that's what happened), that's a more serious charge.

This may have changed but I know that when I was in college in SC in the 90s, there was a big uproar about the cops basically railroading these poor women. Predictably, the men were systematically not charged with similar 'crimes.' "Soliciting prostitution" doesn't get your face and name printed in the back of the newspaper like rape, molestation or, yes, "crimes against nature" does. And they never elaborated. For all the reader knew, the published person could have been farking a possum. Although with all the teeth possums have I wouldn't recommend trying that.
2013-07-17 05:10:15 PM
2 votes:
For as slutty and promiscuous as liberals supposedly are, I've never met anyone who thinks about sex more than social conservatives.  And for as much as they think about it, their views of sex are wildly unrealistic.  They're the late night Cinemax of politics.
2013-07-17 05:09:25 PM
2 votes:

AdolfOliverPanties: "My view is that homosexual acts, not homosexuality, but homosexual acts are wrong. They're intrinsically wrong. And I think in a natural law based country it's appropriate to have policies that reflect that. ... They don't comport with natural law."

Most animals engage in homosexuality.  Are animals not natural?  In fact, homo sapiens is the only species that both engages in homosexual acts and then actually gives a shiat about it.  THAT is what is unnatural.


A natural law is like Newton's law of gravity or the three Laws of thermodynamics. No one needs to craft legislation to force people to follow said laws.

Legislative laws are, by definition, unnatural because they have to be agreed to. It's like to use of hands past the fifth yard by the cornerbacks in football. It's natural for a defensive player to want to use hands to slow or stymie the forward movement of a receiver, so the rule is in place to prevent the natural act.
2013-07-17 05:05:31 PM
2 votes:

James!: Call me when both sides are trying to make blow-jobs illegal. Until then I'm voting Democrat


Hard to argue with that.
2013-07-17 02:52:50 PM
2 votes:
The way the law is written, it would make it a felony for normal, heterosexual, consenting adults to have oral sex too.  Ken Cuccinelli doesn't like blow jobs.
2013-07-17 02:34:05 PM
2 votes:

Aarontology: I think we really are at the point where "social conservative" has become a noun to describe someone who is constantly thinking about f*cking children.


And animals.
2013-07-18 10:18:45 AM
1 votes:
This dude's wife is rubbing one out to an erotic bondage story at this very moment.
2013-07-17 11:41:12 PM
1 votes:

encyclopediaplushuman: Aarontology: I think we really are at the point where "social conservative" has become a noun to describe someone who is constantly thinking about f*cking children.

And f*cking animals, don't forget about the animals. Because we all know the gay lifestyle is a slippery slope to bestiality....and then to polygamous robotic necrophilia bestiality


You say that like it's a bad thing.
2013-07-17 10:30:28 PM
1 votes:

fusillade762: jjorsett: Bloomberg can tell you how much soda you can buy or how much salt can be added to your food, so there's really no reason somebody else can't tell you what kind of sex you're allowed to have, is there?

Last I heard oral sex doesn't make you fat or give you diabetes.


It is possible to catch STD's through oral, though. But hey, I'm sure the ultra-right will welcome you in declaring the government does have a right to say what you do with your body.

/How about "no" to the control freaks from any party?
2013-07-17 10:30:17 PM
1 votes:

jjorsett: Bloomberg can tell you how much soda you can buy or how much salt can be added to your food, so there's really no reason somebody else can't tell you what kind of sex you're allowed to have, is there?


Bloomberg's soda ban is dumb and should be rolled back. But, to his credit at least his intent was to help solve real public health problems.

This sodomy law? Not so much.
2013-07-17 10:27:59 PM
1 votes:

jjorsett: Bloomberg can tell you how much soda you can buy or how much salt can be added to your food, so there's really no reason somebody else can't tell you what kind of sex you're allowed to have, is there?


Last I heard oral sex doesn't make you fat or give you diabetes.
2013-07-17 10:14:40 PM
1 votes:
If this guy has kids, and they are teens or older, they are openly mocked at school.
2013-07-17 09:50:27 PM
1 votes:

JohnnyC: There must be some conservatives on fark ready to defend their party on this one... come on. Which one of you are going to step up?!


I think they're all still busy White Knighting Ted Nugent two threads up.
2013-07-17 09:48:27 PM
1 votes:

o5iiawah: Cant they just write it into the law that it only applies to children?   For Farks sake I have no idea what the angle is on this one.


Really? No idea?

Decades of queer bashing, porn censorship, abstinence fetishism, and literally opposing HPV vaccination... and you still haven't figured out that right-wingers simply hate sex?
2013-07-17 09:10:15 PM
1 votes:
Peki:

Otherwise, I really enjoy giving blowjobs. I'd rather not go to jail for them.

Not sure if you are male or female, but allow me to say this:

Don't ever change.
2013-07-17 08:39:02 PM
1 votes:
There must be some conservatives on fark ready to defend their party on this one... come on. Which one of you are going to step up?!
2013-07-17 08:29:48 PM
1 votes:
SovietCanuckistan: "If I ain't havin' fun, NOBODY can!!"

The sad thing is, Cuccinelli's idea of having fun is stomping kittens to death, waterboarding widows and orphans, and throwing old women out on the street.
2013-07-17 07:31:58 PM
1 votes:

toomuchwhargarbl: Calvinists.


No. Cuccinelli is a hardcore Catholic like Santorum.
2013-07-17 07:07:44 PM
1 votes:

FormlessOne: theknuckler_33: I like how these morans have co-opted the term "natural law" in a desperate, juvenile attempt at covering up their homophobia.

I just wish they understood that "natural law" includes homosexuality, as such relationships have been documented in human behavior for thousands of years. It's a null term, really - there's no "supernatural law" that stands in opposition, as pretty much ANYTHING WE DO is covered by a "natural law."


Homosexuality has been documented in every mammalian species.  All of them.  It's more natural than traditional marriage or monogamy.
2013-07-17 06:49:49 PM
1 votes:
I like how these morans have co-opted the term "natural law" in a desperate, juvenile attempt at covering up their homophobia.
2013-07-17 06:10:50 PM
1 votes:

Britney Spear's Speculum: The GOP is all about moral panic


Fascinating.
Many sociologists have pointed out the differences between definitions of a moral panic for American and British sociologists. Kenneth Thompson has said that American sociologists tend to emphasize psychological factors whereas the British portray moral panics as crises of capitalism.
Telling point, that.
2013-07-17 06:00:15 PM
1 votes:

AdolfOliverPanties: "My view is that homosexual acts, not homosexuality, but homosexual acts are wrong. They're intrinsically wrong. And I think in a natural law based country it's appropriate to have policies that reflect that. ... They don't comport with natural law."

Most animals engage in homosexuality.  Are animals not natural?  In fact, homo sapiens is the only species that both engages in homosexual acts and then actually gives a shiat about it.  THAT is what is unnatural.


The more interesting thing, is it's not just homosexuals that engage in oral sex and sodomy.  Heterosexuals do it too.  Does he not understand that?  Wait a minute....of course he doesn't.
2013-07-17 05:27:18 PM
1 votes:
The new site, vachildpredators.com, highlights 90 people identified "sexual predators" in Virginia who have been charged under the  law since the 2003 ruling, which held that states could not ban private, non-commercial sexual relations between consenting adults.

90 people charged with a law that was struck down by the supreme court ten years ago.

i may live in a farked up state but there is farked up then there is VA.
2013-07-17 05:24:16 PM
1 votes:
The GOP is all about moral panic
2013-07-17 05:16:05 PM
1 votes:

Serious Black: If a bunch of Farkers want to corn hole my mother, that's between them and her. I'll warn you that she's not much to look at after polio farked her up good as a kid.


www.nobodygoeshere.com
2013-07-17 05:12:21 PM
1 votes:

Serious Black: meat0918: Dr Dreidel: Kredal: The way the law is written, it would make it a felony for normal, heterosexual, consenting adults to have oral sex too.  Ken Cuccinelli doesn't like blow jobs.

That is the stated point.

Kenny refuses to answer the question, though, if any of the sex he's ever had runs afoul of this proposed law.

AdolfOliverPanties: "My view is that homosexual acts, not homosexuality, but homosexual acts are wrong. They're intrinsically wrong. And I think in a natural law based country it's appropriate to have policies that reflect that. ... They don't comport with natural law."

Most animals engage in homosexuality.  Are animals not natural?  In fact, homo sapiens is the only species that both engages in homosexual acts and then actually gives a shiat about it.  THAT is what is unnatural.

Also, several animal species engage in sex for fun/pleasure - oral, anal (I think) and mutual handjobbery (or flipperjobbery, or paw...you get the point).

Yeah, but we've got thousands of busy bodies worrying about "proper" behavior that frankly, as long as it is between to consenting adults, is none of their farking business.

Just to play devil's advocate a bit, how far does consent stretch? Would you support, say, letting somebody consent to being slaughtered and eaten?


WTF are you on about?

We'd first need to know if such a person has the mental state to legally give consent, but I generally support assisted suicide.
2013-07-17 05:08:22 PM
1 votes:

Kredal: The way the law is written, it would make it a felony for normal, heterosexual, consenting adults to have oral sex too.  Ken Cuccinelli doesn't like blow jobs.


There was a case a few years ago in GA where someone was convicted under the GA sodomy laws for oral sex.  When the prosecutor was asked why these sorts of prosecutions weren't more common, his response was "I would imagine there's a high rate of recidivism."
2013-07-17 05:07:51 PM
1 votes:
And the GOP goes on about how it wants to create jobs!
2013-07-17 05:02:38 PM
1 votes:

AdolfOliverPanties: "My view is that homosexual acts, not homosexuality, but homosexual acts are wrong. They're intrinsically wrong. And I think in a natural law based country it's appropriate to have policies that reflect that. ... They don't comport with natural law."

Most animals engage in homosexuality.  Are animals not natural?  In fact, homo sapiens is the only species that both engages in homosexual acts and then actually gives a shiat about it.  THAT is what is unnatural.


The only natural laws are based on physics.
2013-07-17 05:01:10 PM
1 votes:

Serious Black: Just to play devil's advocate a bit, how far does consent stretch? Would you support, say, letting somebody consent to being slaughtered and eaten?


Killing someone is a bit more permanent then, say, half the posters here corn holing your mother.
2013-07-17 05:00:26 PM
1 votes:

The Muthaship: The Why Not Guy: How proud you Republicans must be.

Anybody who proudly states they are a member of either major party is a moron.


Are both sides bad?
2013-07-17 04:58:53 PM
1 votes:
I don't think banning blow jobs is going to be popular.
2013-07-17 04:57:37 PM
1 votes:

The Muthaship: oral sex and sodomy

Are the banning Snickers and candy bars, too?


Basically, we're all sodomites now. Well, everyone except people who only engage in sex where they have a significant chance of procreation.
2013-07-17 04:57:28 PM
1 votes:

The Why Not Guy: How proud you Republicans must be.


Anybody who proudly states they are a member of either major party is a moron.
2013-07-17 04:53:22 PM
1 votes:
How proud you Republicans must be.
2013-07-17 04:51:32 PM
1 votes:
Laser like focus on small government.
2013-07-17 04:50:17 PM
1 votes:

Arachnophobe: Jackson Herring: James!: And it would just be struck down again.

much like my boner

Your boner will become more powerful than we can possibly imagine?


It'll be just an empty robe and eventually reappear with a bunch of other dead penises as a hologram.
2013-07-17 02:45:11 PM
1 votes:
And it would just be struck down again.
 
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