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2013-07-17 12:45:47 PM  
He has nothing better to do than sit there and figure out all the ways he can hurt you.


good night sleep tight.
 
2013-07-17 12:49:16 PM  
He sounds like a bad guy, but at the same time, when someone has completed their sentence, they deserve the chance to lead a better life than they did before.
 
2013-07-17 12:54:23 PM  
Now he can move to Florida.
 
2013-07-17 01:00:49 PM  
The mayor said the federal Correctional Service of Canada should not be allowed to "wash its hands" of the situation when high-risk offenders reach the end of their sentences.

That's a weird way of looking at it. Doesn't seem like the Correctional Service has much of a choice in the matter. And if they start deciding unilaterally that prisoners who've completed their sentences aren't going to be allowed to go free, they're gonna end up getting themselves sued into the ground.
 
2013-07-17 01:01:04 PM  
Maybe my mathing is off, but didn't they let him out 2 years early? Or did they commute 2 years for time served since arrest?
 
2013-07-17 01:03:24 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Maybe my mathing is off, but didn't they let him out 2 years early? Or did they commute 2 years for time served since arrest?


It's Canada. They use the metric system. So one of our years is like a milliliter to them or some crap.
 
2013-07-17 01:03:41 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Maybe my mathing is off, but didn't they let him out 2 years early? Or did they commute 2 years for time served since arrest?


Canadian years are shorter than American years. It's a metric thing.
 
2013-07-17 01:04:16 PM  

HawgWild: scottydoesntknow: Maybe my mathing is off, but didn't they let him out 2 years early? Or did they commute 2 years for time served since arrest?

It's Canada. They use the metric system. So one of our years is like a milliliter to them or some crap.


Heh, shiat man...nice timing.
 
2013-07-17 01:12:28 PM  

HawgWild: It's Canada. They use the metric system. So one of our years is like a milliliter to them or some crap.


Barfmaker: Canadian years are shorter than American years. It's a metric thing.


17 seconds apart. Kudos to both of you!
 
2013-07-17 01:25:05 PM  
He'd probably forgotten all about that comment, but now they've all reminded him he's going to make good his plans. Way to go, liberal media.
 
2013-07-17 01:34:20 PM  

Godscrack: Now he can move to Florida.


Yep, where he can stalk women, rape and kill them, and claim self-defense when they try to fight him.
 
2013-07-17 01:41:56 PM  

Lorelle: Godscrack: Now he can move to Florida.

Yep, where he can stalk women, rape and kill them, and claim self-defense when they try to fight him.


"I swear officer, they attacked me and I was just trying to beat them off"
 
2013-07-17 01:46:12 PM  

scottydoesntknow: HawgWild: It's Canada. They use the metric system. So one of our years is like a milliliter to them or some crap.

Barfmaker: Canadian years are shorter than American years. It's a metric thing.

17 seconds apart. Kudos to both of you!


Or, as they say in Canada, "a Gretzky".
 
2013-07-17 01:49:48 PM  

neritz: Lorelle: Godscrack: Now he can move to Florida.

Yep, where he can stalk women, rape and kill them, and claim self-defense when they try to fight him.

"I swear officer, they attacked me and I was just trying to beat them off"


aaaand she was wearing a hoodie.
 
2013-07-17 01:51:17 PM  
"He's been let loose in our community to victimize one of our residents," [the mayor] told The Province. "It seems to me they know he's going to reoffend. Why on earth would you let him free?"

Today I learned that the mayor of Surrey believes that all criminal sentences should be life sentences just on the off-chance that the offender might commit another crime when released.
 
2013-07-17 01:54:28 PM  
That man was undoubtedly abused and neglected as a child.  But the joke's on him.  The woman he assaulted is probably a total wreck 20 years after what he did to her.  In an odd twist of Stockholm fate, she'll be there with open arms and a prescription drug abuse problem.
 
2013-07-17 01:54:30 PM  

scottydoesntknow: HawgWild: It's Canada. They use the metric system. So one of our years is like a milliliter to them or some crap.

Barfmaker: Canadian years are shorter than American years. It's a metric thing.

17 seconds apart. Kudos to both of you!


19 seconds in Canada.
 
2013-07-17 01:54:58 PM  
<i>Leggatt sentenced Caissie to two 12-year terms for two counts of sexual assault, <b>to be served concurrently</b>. He also received 10 years in jail for two counts of robbery and one count of forcible confinement.</i>

There's one problem.  Consecutive rapes should have merited consecutive sentences, not to mention more time than twelve years.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-07-17 01:55:25 PM  
He forgot to subtract credit for the two years he spent in jail before trial.
 
2013-07-17 01:56:12 PM  
i44.tinypic.com
 
2013-07-17 01:56:13 PM  
Okay, so he committed a terrible crime 20 years ago, and he was put away for 20 years (which is good!). Also, he said something 20 years ago.

That's about it, really. He served his time, according to the law, no matter whether or not I agree with it. If he misses a probation appointment or he starts acting weird, THEN it's a news story.
 
2013-07-17 01:56:26 PM  
BC's refuse usually ends up in one of two places: Abbotsford or Surrey
 
2013-07-17 01:56:38 PM  
static.tvfanatic.com
 
2013-07-17 01:57:59 PM  
FTFA:
As
Abbotsford
rapist
Raymond
Caissie was
led away to
serve his jail
sentence,
he muttered
"I'll see you
in 22
years."


Fixed-width formatting and a huge image taking up the top part of the article with JUST enough room for text to be crammed in on the side.  Ace web design there, Calgary Herald.
 
2013-07-17 01:58:41 PM  

neritz: Lorelle: Godscrack: Now he can move to Florida.

Yep, where he can stalk women, rape and kill them, and claim self-defense when they try to fight him.

"I swear officer, they attacked me and I was just trying to beat them off"


hehe..."beat off".
 
2013-07-17 01:59:19 PM  
So that's why you should get rid of cable?
 
2013-07-17 01:59:48 PM  

Barfmaker: HawgWild: scottydoesntknow: Maybe my mathing is off, but didn't they let him out 2 years early? Or did they commute 2 years for time served since arrest?

It's Canada. They use the metric system. So one of our years is like a milliliter to them or some crap.

Heh, shiat man...nice timing.


Nice timing indeed...In that case one of you must be Canadian and the other American.
 
2013-07-17 01:59:57 PM  

Slaxl: He'd probably forgotten all about that comment, but now they've all reminded him he's going to make good his plans. Way to go, liberal media.


Thanks Obama!
 
2013-07-17 02:00:41 PM  
1993 was 22 years ago!!?!?!?

D:
 
2013-07-17 02:01:14 PM  

Godscrack: Now he can move to Florida.


Pablo honey, come to Florida.
 
2013-07-17 02:02:06 PM  
Should have been:

i39.tinypic.com
 
2013-07-17 02:02:13 PM  

Meisaims: 1993 was 22 years ago!!?!?!?

D:


No.. but 2 years after he got out may be the limit on how long they can monitor him.  So, was it the court he was saying it to.
 
2013-07-17 02:06:27 PM  

pudding7: 19 seconds in Canada.


... and half-an-hour later in Newfoundland.
 
2013-07-17 02:08:16 PM  
This is one of those times that you have a male relative get a few of his biggest friends together and pay a visit to the guy's house.

No violence needed. Just have them all together to give the guy a friendly reminder. "If you come within 100 feet of my sister or contact her in any way, me and these 10 guys will make sure that you don't go to jail. WE will punish you. And one of us has a nice cabin deep in the woods where we'll work you over in the most painful ways possible, until your body decides to give you the sweet release of death. This will be your first and only warning. Test me at your own risk."
 
2013-07-17 02:08:56 PM  

Lorelle: Godscrack: Now he can move to Florida.

Yep, where he can stalk women, rape and kill them, and claim self-defense when they try to fight him.


Your knowledge of the case is as stunningly accurate as your belief Laura Bush is equal to a terrorist.
 
2013-07-17 02:10:33 PM  

Godscrack: Now he can move to Florida.


Great, another snowbird.
 
2013-07-17 02:11:23 PM  

State_College_Arsonist: <i>Leggatt sentenced Caissie to two 12-year terms for two counts of sexual assault, <b>to be served concurrently</b>. He also received 10 years in jail for two counts of robbery and one count of forcible confinement.</i>

There's one problem.  Consecutive rapes should have merited consecutive sentences, not to mention more time than twelve years.


Yeah, I noticed that too. Looks to me like the judge was an epic failure in this case.
 
2013-07-17 02:12:11 PM  
"He's been let loose in our community to victimize one of our residents," she told The Province. "It seems to me they know he's going to reoffend. Why on earth would you let him free?"

Uh, because his sentence was up.
 
2013-07-17 02:13:23 PM  

Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: "He's been let loose in our community to victimize one of our residents," [the mayor] told The Province. "It seems to me they know he's going to reoffend. Why on earth would you let him free?"

Today I learned that the mayor of Surrey believes that all criminal sentences should be life sentences just on the off-chance that the offender might commit another crime when released.


Sexual predators arguably  should be locked up for life. Prison time does not cure them.
 
2013-07-17 02:18:24 PM  
He was likely in jail before being convicted. At the time, Canada gave two for one credit for time served before a conviction. So, 20 years since he was handed a 22 year sentence, but by the time he was sentenced he had served the equivalent of two years.

While the suggestion that the Correctional System should hold people after they've completed their whole sentence is stupid, there is an underlying scary truth. In Canada, anyone who manages to serve a full sentence is a horrifyingly scary person. And is probably entirely untreated, since early release/probation is the carrot that Corrections Canada uses to get prisoners into treatment/therapy/training.
 
2013-07-17 02:21:23 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: He sounds like a bad guy, but at the same time, when someone has completed their sentence, they deserve the chance to lead a better life than they did before.


Exploding permanent dog collar?

Like the invisible fence, only decapitating.
 
2013-07-17 02:22:16 PM  

El Morro: This is one of those times that you have a male relative get a few of his biggest friends together and pay a visit to the guy's house.

No violence needed. Just have them all together to give the guy a friendly reminder. "If you come within 100 feet of my sister or contact her in any way, me and these 10 guys will make sure that you don't go to jail. WE will punish you. And one of us has a nice cabin deep in the woods where we'll work you over in the most painful ways possible, until your body decides to give you the sweet release of death. This will be your first and only warning. Test me at your own risk."


And then you get to find out whether or not 22 years was long enough to solidify a position in the Aryan Brotherhood.
 
2013-07-17 02:23:23 PM  

El Morro: This is one of those times that you have a male relative get a few of his biggest friends together and pay a visit to the guy's house.

No violence needed. Just have them all together to give the guy a friendly reminder. "If you come within 100 feet of my sister or contact her in any way, me and these 10 guys will make sure that you don't go to jail. WE will punish you. And one of us has a nice cabin deep in the woods where we'll work you over in the most painful ways possible, until your body decides to give you the sweet release of death. This will be your first and only warning. Test me at your own risk."


What could possibly go wrong?
 
2013-07-17 02:23:27 PM  
Bullet...to back of the head...from the victim. That should clear his mind of such thoughts.
 
2013-07-17 02:23:27 PM  

Stone Meadow: Sexual predators arguably  should be locked up for life. Prison time does not cure them.


This is a constant debate in my head, frankly.  I'm 100% against the death penalty, and the cost of life imprisonment is enormous, yet I'm aware of the rates of recidivism for sexual offenders.  I wish there was some sort of...halfway house/treatment center situation where they are somewhat free to attempt to live a normal life after prison (because there always is that small percentage of offenders who ARE rehabilitated, and they deserve a clean slate if they put in the effort).  I just don't think that heftier sentences serve as a deterrent.

I don't care to get into it in this thread, but of course the first and loveliest solution is to make sure children are growing up learning not to rape (or assault or rob or batter or abuse).  Somewhere, and apparently at a very very young age, this guy fell, irrevocably through the cracks of life and now he's just damaged goods.
 
2013-07-17 02:23:57 PM  

Mock26: "He's been let loose in our community to victimize one of our residents," she told The Province. "It seems to me they know he's going to reoffend. Why on earth would you let him free?"

Uh, because his sentence was up.


Srsly. WTF is with people these days? Criminals get a sentence, and then they serve it. At that point they are basically free. The only other options are to execute them or to imprison them until they die.
 
2013-07-17 02:25:21 PM  

MyRandomName: Lorelle: Godscrack: Now he can move to Florida.

Yep, where he can stalk women, rape and kill them, and claim self-defense when they try to fight him.

Your knowledge of the case is as stunningly accurate as your belief Laura Bush is equal to a terrorist.


You're still upset over a joke I made in another thread?!? Oh Jeez Louise.
 
2013-07-17 02:28:42 PM  
Did ya'll see that this dude was expelled from kindergarten? Fer chrissakes what a nutjob.  What's gun control like in Canada?
 
2013-07-17 02:29:07 PM  

El Morro: This is one of those times that you have a male relative get a few of his biggest friends together and pay a visit to the guy's house.

No violence needed. Just have them all together to give the guy a friendly reminder. "If you come within 100 feet of my sister or contact her in any way, me and these 10 guys will make sure that you don't go to jail. WE will punish you. And one of us has a nice cabin deep in the woods where we'll work you over in the most painful ways possible, until your body decides to give you the sweet release of death. This will be your first and only warning. Test me at your own risk."


Doubt it will work, did you read the article? The guy got expelled from kindergarten, got in fights constantly at 7 years old. Said he likes being in prison.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-07-17 02:32:35 PM  
In Canada, anyone who manages to serve a full sentence is a horrifyingly scary person.

In the USA sex criminals often serve full sentences. States typically deny parole to anybody who doesn't confess. Many won't confess, in part because some of them did not commit the crime. Others are too scary to release, or assaulted somebody cute or with political connections, or got on the warden's bad side, etc.

We had a link a few years ago about one guy who was released after serving his full sentence. (In Tennessee?) People were complaining that the guy was not on supervised parole, but totally free. There was a deliberate choice to make him serve every second of his sentence behind bars instead of letting him out on parole at the end. That's poor policy, but the parole board takes more heat if they let him out early and watch to make sure he readjusts to outside life.
 
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