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(Huffington Post)   Senate filibuster deal said to be a humiliation for Mitch McConnell, with some sources suggesting he may simply withdraw into his shell out of shame   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 19
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2013-07-17 02:27:48 PM  
3 votes:

JesseL: It's amazing how people realize this whole mess is a result of the President trying to bypass the Senate by making his appointments when they've all gone home for the night and claiming it as a recess appointment due to the senate not being in session simply due to not being physically present in the building.


The President has already made his appointments.  The Senate has a constitutional duty to "advice and consent".  If the Senate wants to withhold their consent for a nominee then they need to do that.  Go ahead and hold a vote.  Failure to grant or deny the President consent for his nominees is an unconstitutional bypassing of the President's duty to make appointments.  The Senate has a constitutionally-mandated duty "advice and consent".

Note that "sit around with thumbs planted up asses" is not one of the options afforded the Senate by Article II, section 2, clause 2.
2013-07-17 01:53:34 PM  
3 votes:

JesseL: It's amazing how people realize this whole mess is a result of the President trying to bypass the Senate by making his appointments when they've all gone home for the night and claiming it as a recess appointment due to the senate not being in session simply due to not being physically present in the building.

Does anyone think that's a precedent that should be allowed to stand? All the courts that have heard it so far haven't.

This whole thing came to a head because the POTUS and Senate majority leadership didn't want to stand for their inevitable and deserved biatchslap from the Supreme Court.


It's hilarious that you think the recess appointments are the cause of the obstruction. Causality - it only works one way, friend.
2013-07-17 12:37:53 PM  
3 votes:
Ha, "shame." That's a good one.
2013-07-17 02:34:56 PM  
2 votes:

JesseL: And pretending that the Senate is no longer in session when they go home at night so you can do whatever you want is no better.


Certainly unprecedented, right?

Per Congressional Research Service:
Ronald Reagan: 240 recess appointments
George H. W. Bush: 77 recess appointments
Bill Clinton made 139 recess appointments
George W. Bush: 171 recess appointments
Barack Obama: 32 recess appointments (first term only)
2013-07-17 02:31:27 PM  
2 votes:

JesseL: Right. Fark the constitution.


You had no problem when Bush was doing it right?
2013-07-17 02:14:07 PM  
2 votes:

JesseL: There should be some consequences for that kind of unconstitutional BS, which is the reason for the recent fillibuster.


Then how to explain that those two nominees were filibustereded BEFORE the recess appointments even happened? That the only reason they were appointed "in recess" in the first place was because they couldn't get an up-or-down vote prior?

Also, for the Cordray nomination, the GOP was apparently against it (because he's the libbiest lib in the world) from December 2011 when cloture missed by 7 votes (and the GOP voted 45-2 to continue debate) until yesterday when 66 Senators supported it. With fewer Democrats in the chamber this time around.
2013-07-17 01:45:11 PM  
2 votes:
Now, Democrats should make a deal with House GOP moderates to oust Boehner and install a moderate Republican as speaker.  Gridlock would be over--the only reason why the Tea party wing has any power at all in the House is because Boehner is too scared to bring up bills that would pass on a bipartisan basis if the Tea Party tells him not to.
2013-07-17 04:08:37 PM  
1 votes:

JesseL: DamnYankees: JesseL: . There should be some consequences for that kind of unconstitutional BS, which is the reason for the recent fillibuster.


There should be consequences for the Congress to use the filibuster as a tool to impede on executive power in order force certain agencies to whither on the vine.

Oh wait, THERE ARE.
2013-07-17 03:32:23 PM  
1 votes:

Rwa2play: JesseL: Pituophis: JesseL: And pretending that the Senate is no longer in session when they go home at night so you can do whatever you want is no better.

Certainly unprecedented, right?

Per Congressional Research Service:
Ronald Reagan: 240 recess appointments
George H. W. Bush: 77 recess appointments
Bill Clinton made 139 recess appointments
George W. Bush: 171 recess appointments
Barack Obama: 32 recess appointments (first term only)

How many of those happened while the Senate was still legally in session?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recess_appointment

Thanks for playing!  Don Pardo will tell you what you're going away gifts are...Don?


And let me tell you what you didn't win: a twenty volume set of the Encyclopedia International, a case of Turtle Wax, and a year's supply of Rice-A-Roni, the San Francisco Treat.

But that's not all!

You also made yourself look like a jerk in front of millions of people. You brought shame and disgrace to your family name for generations to come. You don't get to come back tomorrow. You don't even get a lousy copy of our home game. You're a complete loser!

/Would have really helped if I had the nick of Don Pardo.
2013-07-17 02:42:02 PM  
1 votes:

JesseL: Pituophis: JesseL: And pretending that the Senate is no longer in session when they go home at night so you can do whatever you want is no better.

Certainly unprecedented, right?

Per Congressional Research Service:
Ronald Reagan: 240 recess appointments
George H. W. Bush: 77 recess appointments
Bill Clinton made 139 recess appointments
George W. Bush: 171 recess appointments
Barack Obama: 32 recess appointments (first term only)

How many of those happened while the Senate was still legally in session?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recess_appointment

Thanks for playing!  Don Pardo will tell you what you're going away gifts are...Don?
2013-07-17 02:36:51 PM  
1 votes:
JesseL: "And pretending that the Senate is no longer in session when they go home at night so you can do whatever you want is no better."

No better than... pretending that the Senate *is* in session, even though they refuse to vote on appointments or legislation, simply because they're in the building?
2013-07-17 02:26:38 PM  
1 votes:

JesseL: What the president and the senate majority have done and threatened to do is a far bigger issue though.


HAHA. Love it.
2013-07-17 02:18:22 PM  
1 votes:
Yes - but - it's not humiliating enough.
2013-07-17 02:06:39 PM  
1 votes:
You know the GOP is screwed when DOING THEIR DAMN JOBS makes national news.

On track to be an even bigger do nothing Congress than last session...
2013-07-17 01:52:56 PM  
1 votes:

DamnYankees: Boehner IS a GOP House Moderate, relatively speaking. I'd say that Boehner is easily in the quarter of the most moderate GOP House members.


He cares too much about his job, so the fringe right has him by the nuts.  If Democrats agreed to cooperate on a coup, they would only need I think 18 Republicans to revolt.  It would still be a Republican speaker, but not one who was willing to do bullshiat like the "Hastert Rule".
2013-07-17 01:46:48 PM  
1 votes:

Hollie Maea: Now, Democrats should make a deal with House GOP moderates to oust Boehner and install a moderate Republican as speaker.  Gridlock would be over--the only reason why the Tea party wing has any power at all in the House is because Boehner is too scared to bring up bills that would pass on a bipartisan basis if the Tea Party tells him not to.


Boehner IS a GOP House Moderate, relatively speaking. I'd say that Boehner is easily in the quarter of the most moderate GOP House members.
2013-07-17 01:37:32 PM  
1 votes:
Mitch McConnell should feel humiliated just for being a farking idiot.

But he's probably not.

Idiots never are.
2013-07-17 01:33:32 PM  
1 votes:

DamnYankees: Rwa2play: Hmmmm, wondering if Senate GOPers have finally seen the writing on the wall with regards to their intransigence and, with the 2014 mid-terms looming, they really don't want to look like they're the problem in Washington.

They are going to do fine in 2014. Remember, 2008 was a great year for Democrats, so 2014 means Dems have more to defend. The GOP is going to do fine in the midterms.


At the current rate of "derp" that's being spewed by Republicans, it'll be more of an instance of Democrats "taking" rather Republicans "defending" next year.
2013-07-17 01:32:38 PM  
1 votes:
What I'd like to think the conversation between Reid and McConnell looked like:
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